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Situation behind SoulKey's troubles
https://imgur.com/a/HfXE5PQ
His notepad summary:
-if I do ASL I won't be able to stream as much and will be unable to stream on saturday/sunday.
-My chance to win is 1% and right now I am unable to maintain my form to full fitness since I am not able to practice as much
-so if I get to RO8, which is best I can hope, it will be prize money of $2000
-But while I do my ASL run to RO8, I won't be able to do major proleague (big sponsor matches with big names)
-I have to skip 8 days of major proleague, and winning just 2 of 8 will get me the prize money by itself.
-I would participate if I had 50% chance of winning ASL but right now, there's no meaning to honor if I have no money
-I need money in order to go for honors (trophies) as well.
Story behind Soulkey's situation summed up
https://m.fomos.kr/talk/article_view?indexno=864930&bbs_id=21
-a car dealer offered to lease car under condition the streamers let them banner sponsor his dealership (Soulkey/guemchi/zeus/ect other big streamers)
-bunch of streamers got very, VERY good deal on car lease
-turns out car dealer was a scammer impersonating streamers to buy expensive foreign cars (BMW/porsche/ect) and leasing them, ponzi scheme in a way
-leasing becomes unsustainable, scammer sells off the cars overseas
-scammer demanded payback for the payment for the cars
-what streamers thought was just 1 car was in fact tens of cars
-scammer goes to jail and cannot pay money back (probably on some overseas bank account)
-the responsibility of payment goes to document signers (forged or not)
-streamers cannot do anything further under korean law, must pay back money
-soulkey in huge debt numbering $300-400k+ (guesstimate from zeus)
-soulkey exempt from full-time army service in order to work to pay back debt
-soulkey's priority is money to payback debt he was scammed
hope this cleared situation up.
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thanks for clarifying, sounds like hell.
good luck and be wary of "very good deals"...
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Jesus, what is it with streamers always getting scammed or scamming? Is this common in Korea, or are they just particularly easy targets given the nature of their job, or possibly upbringing (proteam houses, have to play BW all day, etc.)?
Feel really bad for them and it seems like a huge flaw in the system if the people who "signed" the documents are forced to pay when they never signed shit.
Fuck scammers, hope he rots in jail and has to give up every penny he makes for the rest of his life to make restitution.
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On March 19 2021 08:51 Jealous wrote:
Jesus, what is it with streamers always getting scammed or scamming? Is this common in Korea, or are they just particularly easy targets given the nature of their job, or possibly upbringing (proteam houses, have to play BW all day, etc.)?
Feel really bad for them and it seems like a huge flaw in the system if the people who "signed" the documents are forced to pay when they never signed shit.
Fuck scammers, hope he rots in jail and has to give up every penny he makes for the rest of his life to make restitution.
easy targets since they are pretty good money, exposure, no real life experience.
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Wow Korean law is super messed up. So anyone can forge your signature in a contract and that makes you (the victim) liable? There surely must be more to it than that. I’d refuse to pay if I’m soulkey.
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On March 19 2021 09:00 RowdierBob wrote:
Wow Korean law is super messed up. So anyone can forge your signature in a contract and that makes you (the victim) liable? There surely must be more to it than that. I’d refuse to pay if I’m soulkey.
Yeah, that seems really crazy to me as well. Really unfortunate situation 
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On March 19 2021 09:00 RowdierBob wrote:
Wow Korean law is super messed up. So anyone can forge your signature in a contract and that makes you (the victim) liable? There surely must be more to it than that. I’d refuse to pay if I’m soulkey.
Don't think refusal is something that the korean culture knows or accepts.
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On March 19 2021 09:47 MineraIs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2021 09:00 RowdierBob wrote:
Wow Korean law is super messed up. So anyone can forge your signature in a contract and that makes you (the victim) liable? There surely must be more to it than that. I’d refuse to pay if I’m soulkey. Don't think refusal is something that the korean culture knows or accepts.
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Shit situation.
I hope he gets out of that.
That debt is too huge.
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Wow, that's fucked up. Hope SK gets out of that situation soon.
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Amazing there is no legal option considering it this looks to be clear cut fraud.
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you think someone like zeus would be more cautious/prudent about this sort of thing. if something sounds too good to be true and theres money involved..
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thanks for the translation + background jinjin, terrible situation for such a good player too...
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is this the original "soulkey got scammed and lost all his saved money" thing or is this a separate second incident?
because i thought there was a first one where soulkey invested 6 digit figures and lost it all because of scammer, but i dont remember any mention about him being heavily in debt that time.
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On March 19 2021 12:49 Bakuryu wrote:
is this the original "soulkey got scammed and lost all his saved money" thing or is this a separate second incident?
because i thought there was a first one where soulkey invested 6 digit figures and lost it all because of scammer, but i dont remember any mention about him being heavily in debt that time.
this is the incident.
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for whatever reason a lot of korean pros get blindsided by financial fraud (primarily because they let their parents handle their finances and they fall into traps).
there was another notable pro who's parents got caught in a financial scam and lost all of their son's earnings but i forgot who it was.
edit: it was nada who lost 700k in the stock market
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/503190-nada-reveals-his-5-yr-old-daughter
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So a scam artist somehow signs him to a contract to buy 10+ luxury cars and he is forced to honor this contract even if he never received the cars and is clearly innocent because the scammer was caught and is in jail. Huh???
Honestly it is difficult to believe, how could anyone do business over there? there must be legal recourse to protect citizens from bogus contracts such as this. Either he isn't telling the whole story or Korean law is completely useless.
He needs to scrape up any streamer money he has and get a lawyer and fight this.
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Obviously we don't know the full story but looking at this on the surface it seems absolutely ridiculous. How can someone be liable for something if their signatures were forged? If that's the case in Korea wouldn't scammers just forge signatures all over the country and get away with millions?
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Yeah that just doesn't seem right at all. There has to be more to it.
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I heard he was scammed and was in debt as a result of that but I didn't know it was this bad. Thanks for clarifying, this ain't the time for him to focus on honor and a "1%" chance in winning ASL.
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