EPTUser - Pyki_BBEPX
Time : around 11:55 UKT August 05 (betrayed around 12:01 UKT - after the game started 06:00)
Players : exanoob, androclos, OLIVIDUK, SpanishFlu, Pyki_BBEPX, TT_TT
Betrayed.
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vfsjhvfsjh
103 Posts
User - Pyki_BBEPX Time : around 11:55 UKT August 05 (betrayed around 12:01 UKT - after the game started 06:00) Players : exanoob, androclos, OLIVIDUK, SpanishFlu, Pyki_BBEPX, TT_TT Betrayed. | ||
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maverock
54 Posts
chobo- https://easyupload.io/jwyjqe 2 replay, same player. A class player ! | ||
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ID:HiddeN...
33 Posts
I am no SAB player myself, but All i can tell : 1: you are a lousy team player. Being zerg 9 pool no lings and three sunkens straight away. That is FAR from being a team player. 2 : Idle larvas most of the time 3: supply blocked urself at 18/18 4: No strategic OVI placements -hence played blind folded and by that so where YOUR team members- 5 : bad manner ending, Chobo left coz they did 3v1 on him and YOU were nowhere to help -making sunkens, and extra hatches without ONE single unit. Maybe it is time to look into a mirror before accusing others. Oh and one last thing APM is a factor. It is true some low APM players are good, but all top players do have high APM and no that is NOT a coincidence. | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
On July 24 2022 17:33 D3AD-R3TARD wrote: I think it's a fair assumption that all players must try to contribute and not just sit in their bases. Cough carrier users cough. | ||
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maverock
54 Posts
On August 06 2022 14:35 ID:HiddeN... wrote: Maverock. I have only see one replay -where chobo left- I am no SAB player myself, but All i can tell : 1: you are a lousy team player. Being zerg 9 pool no lings and three sunkens straight away. That is FAR from being a team player. 2 : Idle larvas most of the time 3: supply blocked urself at 18/18 4: No strategic OVI placements -hence played blind folded and by that so where YOUR team members- 5 : bad manner ending, Chobo left coz they did 3v1 on him and YOU were nowhere to help -making sunkens, and extra hatches without ONE single unit. Maybe it is time to look into a mirror before accusing others. Oh and one last thing APM is a factor. It is true some low APM players are good, but all top players do have high APM and no that is NOT a coincidence. nobody can build a house without foundation. as you say, you saw only second replay, watch the first suply blocked cause ovi lost at teran apm is shit, cause you guys buy monthly a mouce, i just love my series, has at least 5 years now and is still brand new, scrool starts to be ... | ||
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kurrrak
Poland164 Posts
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland323 Posts
On August 05 2022 20:03 vfsjhvfsjh wrote: Ban Report User - Pyki_BBEPX Time : around 11:55 UKT August 05 (betrayed around 12:01 UKT - after the game started 06:00) Players : exanoob, androclos, OLIVIDUK, SpanishFlu, Pyki_BBEPX, TT_TT Betrayed. http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Pyki_BBEPX&date=20220805 Couldn't find this game. Maybe it wasn't valid. Did somebody leave in the beginning or there was disconnect? On August 06 2022 00:31 maverock wrote: https://easyupload.io/x2fg9q chobo- https://easyupload.io/jwyjqe 2 replay, same player. A class player ! Chobo- was banned for bad manners. I might remove this rule in the future as I don't want good players to be removed from league after they have been provoked to say something vulgar. On August 07 2022 21:42 kurrrak wrote: I noticed some games are not being registered recently. Could be disconnects. But if you find exact game that wasn't registered please post it here so I can check it. | ||
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maverock
54 Posts
On August 08 2022 05:47 D3AD-R3TARD wrote: http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Pyki_BBEPX&date=20220805 Couldn't find this game. Maybe it wasn't valid. Did somebody leave in the beginning or there was disconnect? Chobo- was banned for bad manners. I might remove this rule in the future as I don't want good players to be removed from league after they have been provoked to say something vulgar. Could be disconnects. But if you find exact game that wasn't registered please post it here so I can check it. https://easyupload.io/gaeopp the idea what i want to say is that the ecuation is wrong! apm should have a minimum implication in ecuation, the acction per minute APM. but it is true, that the 200+ are more involved in game, but your ecuation can't calculate the players personality, human caracter and the moment feelings, to many are full of themself. in the photo i atached you can see 4 high rank players that are lower than me, rick sanchez and nnc are c/d class, androcios and glyo are b/c and klan is a d, i am fucking EEEEEE with the lowest apm 56. still, nobody can defend himself at start against 2 ore 3 who rush him, only if start as defence, even so, low chances. this shit is a team game why should i say that? because you just banned a selfless player. i posted that players, but not for ban, is not a bad player. i did it because i want to make you figure out of ecuation mistake. in 75% of cases apm is shit, many players reject me in game or they rush me and my ally does not help cause i am a fucking noob, yes i am weak player, but not noob or dumb in the situation that i would change the ecuation, i would make it like this. if the player managed to have high results in game and high apm, apm should be involved in mmr, if not, negative in mmr, but with the condition that the player was not eliminated in first x minutes -high result and high apm = more mmr, if he lose, mmr is not negative (for example, in history you can see that the kings capture themself but not kill, they offered ransom. or in game is that situation of AE, respect your true enemy) -high result and low apm = normal mmr, if lose neutral mmr -low result and high apm = negative mmr even if he win -low result and low apm = lose negative mmr, win low mmr the mmr who does not count should be betwen 50 and 150 for example from the photo atached, i had high result and normal apm = normal mmr, opposite part, glyo, who left without a reason, should be directly banned, but as stats low result high apm, at least double negative mmr ps: take the ban off to chobo, we need good players, everybody has bad moments, in the second replay i want to pay him a lesson | ||
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ID:HiddeN...
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247
Romania45 Posts
making sunkens, extra hatches without ONE single unit is a house foundation in a teamgame apm is shit because us guys buy monthly a "mouce" 75% of cases apm is shit rick sanchez, nnc and androcios are 3 high rank players (glyo is actually good) in history we can see that the kings capture themself but not kill, wait what? 53 apm is normal apm high result (aka total score) means something ps, if Chobo was banned for bad manners why isn't Maverock banned as well? | ||
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hoeha
4 Posts
On August 06 2022 00:31 maverock wrote: https://easyupload.io/x2fg9q chobo- https://easyupload.io/jwyjqe 2 replay, same player. A class player ! I have taken time to watch both replay. I think chobo- is innocent. His understanding about the game or the strategy was at another level compared to his teammates, e.g. maverock. I am not a top player (sometimes A, sometimes B) but could understand why maverock and chobo reacted like that. For the first game, maverock was at 1(P) and the teammates were 11(Z) and 7(P) chobo-. The enemy team were PPT. Chobo has an enemy P at 6 so that he had to 1v1 with that P for a while otherwise he might be blocked. Therefore, his zealot could not go out in early game (if he is blocked, it is 3v2 right there and not to say he was the highest ranking player in the team). 11 did not understand this point so that when he lost the expansion he complained about why 7's zealots was not going out to help. In fact, I think in the early game, 7 did not do anything wrong and he successfully suppressed P at 6 (From the observer view, he could send three or five zealots out if he is extremely good at micro but those half health zealots might or might not work. In addition he had no idea how many army 6 has in the player view). 11 should never take that fast expansion if he saw maverock started with a forge with two canon(players facing PPT rarely do that). I believe Z at 11 was not aware of maverock's start and thought that maverock would have more zealots from gates. He(Z) could successfully take that expansion only if P at 1 went for two or three gates. Clearly in that the game, both 11 and 1 did not understand these situations and why the expansion would fail so that 1(maverock) started to blame 11 and 11 blamed 7(chobo). Then 1 also blamed 7 which finally provoked him to let him say the f*** word. Another reason why chobo lost his temper during this game might be that: if he won, he would be back to around 3000mmr and S rank again. I guess he paid high attentions to this particular game but after 11 quitted, he knew he was far from a win, not his fault, but just away from the S rank. Then in the second game, chobo and maverock were on the same team again. At beginning of the game, chobo actually said the "forget about the previous game" and "focus on this round" which is good and precious. Not a lot of players can control the temper like that especially after a game which your teammate clearly not understood you (that is why I would like to spend time writing a note for this chobo- guy although I did not know him). Unfortunately after seeing the goodwill word from chobo-, maverock replied with "you are useless". What 's worse, in this game, it is TP(chobo)Z(maverock)vs ZZT and mavorock had 3 sunken first and direct went to hydra. Hence 7(chobo) got rushed by two Z's lings. He quitted when enemy's vulture arrived, meanwhile he had no cannon in the base. I think he did nothing wrong(strictly speaking he could last another 15-20 seconds to be eliminated given that he had some probes with two or three zealots and enemy team had two dozen lings with a few vultures in his base.) He quitted without a single word. No gg should not be consider as a bad manner. Again, it is about the understanding of the strategy. People always want to judge others based on his or her own points of view including myself, however we all sometimes are ignorant. What chobo- did was not perfect reaction in the game but should not be banned as well. FYI | ||
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maverock
54 Posts
guys like 247 who can see only the apm, which 1 action per second can be good enaugh in case of precise actions. in situation like chobo in first game i sent all the time my support even if after that i was watching the moon, it's a risk. why is that a good decision to do nothing cause maybe you get counter, if your mate is out in most of cases you lose anyway. if he would counter it would be perfect. but yes, i am strictly for that, a good player, even if of worse decision, he should not be banned. 247, you are one of those who always blame and insult, you just can't stand the heat. ooh he has that apm, he is shit. even when you sayd something after a game, when you saw what i say about apm on site, you provoked me, even so, i just gave 0 attention. you are not worthy of it, beeng or acting as a kid says everything in most of cases. players like glyo, in your eyes are good, in mine are bad. quiters ruin everything | ||
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247
Romania45 Posts
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ID:HiddeN...
33 Posts
 Played on 10-8-2022, 10:15 Players: noogler YuPpY HowDareYou versus ChichoKencho Svarda13 yahyuila Can you please fix ? | ||
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maverock
54 Posts
On August 10 2022 14:13 247 wrote: dude, you're embarrassing yourself yet again cand iti lasi muierea sa te futa, plange la cat de moale si pampalau esti | ||
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland323 Posts
On August 10 2022 12:06 hoeha wrote: I have taken time to watch both replay. I think chobo- is innocent. His understanding about the game or the strategy was at another level compared to his teammates, e.g. maverock. I am not a top player (sometimes A, sometimes B) but could understand why maverock and chobo reacted like that. For the first game, maverock was at 1(P) and the teammates were 11(Z) and 7(P) chobo-. The enemy team were PPT. Chobo has an enemy P at 6 so that he had to 1v1 with that P for a while otherwise he might be blocked. Therefore, his zealot could not go out in early game (if he is blocked, it is 3v2 right there and not to say he was the highest ranking player in the team). 11 did not understand this point so that when he lost the expansion he complained about why 7's zealots was not going out to help. In fact, I think in the early game, 7 did not do anything wrong and he successfully suppressed P at 6 (From the observer view, he could send three or five zealots out if he is extremely good at micro but those half health zealots might or might not work. In addition he had no idea how many army 6 has in the player view). 11 should never take that fast expansion if he saw maverock started with a forge with two canon(players facing PPT rarely do that). I believe Z at 11 was not aware of maverock's start and thought that maverock would have more zealots from gates. He(Z) could successfully take that expansion only if P at 1 went for two or three gates. Clearly in that the game, both 11 and 1 did not understand these situations and why the expansion would fail so that 1(maverock) started to blame 11 and 11 blamed 7(chobo). Then 1 also blamed 7 which finally provoked him to let him say the f*** word. Another reason why chobo lost his temper during this game might be that: if he won, he would be back to around 3000mmr and S rank again. I guess he paid high attentions to this particular game but after 11 quitted, he knew he was far from a win, not his fault, but just away from the S rank. Then in the second game, chobo and maverock were on the same team again. At beginning of the game, chobo actually said the "forget about the previous game" and "focus on this round" which is good and precious. Not a lot of players can control the temper like that especially after a game which your teammate clearly not understood you (that is why I would like to spend time writing a note for this chobo- guy although I did not know him). Unfortunately after seeing the goodwill word from chobo-, maverock replied with "you are useless". What 's worse, in this game, it is TP(chobo)Z(maverock)vs ZZT and mavorock had 3 sunken first and direct went to hydra. Hence 7(chobo) got rushed by two Z's lings. He quitted when enemy's vulture arrived, meanwhile he had no cannon in the base. I think he did nothing wrong(strictly speaking he could last another 15-20 seconds to be eliminated given that he had some probes with two or three zealots and enemy team had two dozen lings with a few vultures in his base.) He quitted without a single word. No gg should not be consider as a bad manner. Again, it is about the understanding of the strategy. People always want to judge others based on his or her own points of view including myself, however we all sometimes are ignorant. What chobo- did was not perfect reaction in the game but should not be banned as well. FYI Chobo was not banned for his play style, but because of swearing towards other player in the first game. Those rules were used in the past, so I find it fair to ban him for this. But as I said, maybe it's time to drop bad manners as cause for bans as it's easy to provoke someone to become vulgar. What do you guys think? Poll: Should BM stay as a cause for bans? Yes, lets ban people for BM (14) No, don't ban people for BM (8) 22 total votes Your vote: Should BM stay as a cause for bans? (Vote): Yes, lets ban people for BM | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28876 Posts
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247
Romania45 Posts
On August 10 2022 20:07 maverock wrote: cand iti lasi muierea sa te futa, plange la cat de moale si pampalau esti our friend thought it was a good ideea to post a personal attack in other language, luckily for us there is google translate: when you let your ******* f*ck you, you cry at how soft and cuddly you are | ||
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hoeha
4 Posts
On August 11 2022 06:17 D3AD-R3TARD wrote: Chobo was not banned for his play style, but because of swearing towards other player in the first game. Those rules were used in the past, so I find it fair to ban him for this. But as I said, maybe it's time to drop bad manners as cause for bans as it's easy to provoke someone to become vulgar. What do you guys think? Poll: Should BM stay as a cause for bans? Yes, lets ban people for BM (14) No, don't ban people for BM (8) 22 total votes Your vote: Should BM stay as a cause for bans? (Vote): Yes, lets ban people for BM Yes, I understand your points and agree that that rule is fair and nothing wrong. Bad manner should be banned if it is repeatedly and intemperately. In the first game, Chobo did not start the "war", rather a "excessive defense". Chobo's second game shows that he is not a reckless player. That is why I would suggest he should not be banned for the league. In soccer, we know player could get a yellow card for the first time of some minor misconduct and red card for the second time misconduct or the first time of severe violation. Even a handball could result either a yellow card or red card depending on each situation. BTW. I would like to say thank you for your time and effort running this platform. Never had chance to say that but you really helped a lot maintaining this SC:BW community. | ||
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ID:HiddeN...
33 Posts
On August 08 2022 05:47 D3AD-R3TARD wrote: http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Pyki_BBEPX&date=20220805 Couldn't find this game. Maybe it wasn't valid. Did somebody leave in the beginning or there was disconnect? Chobo- was banned for bad manners. I might remove this rule in the future as I don't want good players to be removed from league after they have been provoked to say something vulgar. Could be disconnects. But if you find exact game that wasn't registered please post it here so I can check it. I do respect your decision. But honestly, I would have snapped as well. Zerg does fast expo, totally fine as 9 and 12 were empty. Chobo goes 1v1 with 6...totally fine/almost mandatory But what does Maverock, while he sees this? He goes DOUBLE gas...(after his lame cannons of course) gas he never used (up to 1K2~ish) (no core/ no upgrade) means he has at least 6 probes that are totally useless. And yet he starts to blame others. No team player at all, ZERO! I am 100% with team Chobo on this one. | ||
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