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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28752 Posts
October 15 2024 09:18 GMT
#2861
On October 14 2024 02:21 Kazim1 wrote:
I created a smurf and calibrated to E Rank to bash some noobs. I won a couple of games now I'm C Rank because I get 80-120mmr per win? Why? With my main Account I get ~10-20mmr per win.


You get more points for winning and losing early on because you're supposed to quickly be placed at your accurate rank - so that people don't get to newbie bash as that ruins the fun for the ones on the unfortunate end of that bashing.
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wimpwimpwimp
Profile Joined May 2012
171 Posts
October 15 2024 13:58 GMT
#2862
On October 15 2024 05:50 beWaterMyFriend78 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2024 17:51 MeSaber wrote:
Does TT_TT ever get banned for abusing the system? He keeps leaving games upon starting when it doesnt favor him. No fucking wonder hes S rank if he can pick games by leaving like this. Literally abusing the system to gain MMR.

Ban this fucker

TT_TT is the definitive S-Rank, everyone can choose whether they go or not and if you have bad players and it shows beforehand that you can't win or it's difficult or because of the races of your allys, understandable. Furthermore, a large proportion of them probably cannot read. The rules are clearly defined, reporting any BM blabbering etc is nonsensical and only shows that you are pissed off and dissatisfied. It is a ladder, which ladder you can't manipulate or influence in your favor, especially since the BGHMMR system is written by one person and cannot keep up with other comparable ladders and such ladder systems can always be manipulated, more or less. Furthermore, what is the ban supposed to achieve? He has at least two other accounts that have S rank. So please spare us your public crying.


@MeSaber definitely has a valid complaint though. When I last played this ladder a month or so ago, I was matched four or five times against TT_TT aka Pssst. Not once did he play past the three minute mark. He seems to leave every game that doesn't open exactly as he would like, and wastes a lot of people's time in the process. And clearly this cowardly way of playing the ladder will boost his MMR a lot compared to a similarly skilled player who doesn't game the system.

I wish @D3AD-R3TARD would increase the temp ban duration to ten days or more for repeat leavers.
Che cazzo
Profile Joined March 2024
200 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-15 19:56:21
October 15 2024 19:39 GMT
#2863
@D3AD-R3TARD, please answer to my previous 4 reports.
#2715 - vision change
#2759 - vision change + ruinning game
#2847 - ruinning games(#2843, #2844, #2845, #2846 are also other players' reports on same player for same reason.)
#2854 - attacking teammate

I am keep reminding about these reports, but I wonder why they are not responded at all. At least please provide feedback if you don't consider them as ban reasons. I don't want to waste my time.
Thank you.

Minus_zero
Profile Joined July 2022
17 Posts
October 16 2024 08:14 GMT
#2864
Report on player named Pittttttt for atacking teammate.

Game ID: 20241016/100921

Replay: fastupload.io

Screenshot:
[image loading]
intrepid1109
Profile Joined May 2023
10 Posts
October 16 2024 12:16 GMT
#2865
Report on player named T1Dragon for being too gosu.

He's masequrading as a B rank Protoss but he's probably higher. Always messes up game because he should be higher BGH MMR
iN3gos
Profile Joined July 2024
40 Posts
October 16 2024 19:16 GMT
#2866
Hi, D3AD-R3TARD,

What was the solution about Praxo?
The guy decides to leave because team is not following his orders. He doesn't even try to win even balance is on our side 56-44. Team asked him not to leave, and he did it anyway. He doesn't want to play, simple. But what about other 5 people? It already happened hundreds of times, this guy will not grow up.
Game ended by 1 guy decision. It's very frustrating to wait for the game and to get Praxo in team.
Maybe it's possible to fix the issue? Check out the game:

3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2024-10-16 20:39
20241016/205222

Winners Losers
name race initial MMR MMR change
NOOBPLAYER001 P 1546 +32.97
CentauriProxima P 1540 +32.97
keepcalmiamnoob P 513 +32.97
name race initial MMR MMR change
KaeLi T 1532 -32.97
praxo Z 1466 -32.97
iN3gos P 1356 -32.97
.
vfsjhvfsjh
Profile Joined October 2021
94 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-16 21:37:11
October 16 2024 19:22 GMT
#2867
On October 15 2024 22:58 wimpwimpwimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2024 05:50 beWaterMyFriend78 wrote:
On October 14 2024 17:51 MeSaber wrote:
Does TT_TT ever get banned for abusing the system? He keeps leaving games upon starting when it doesnt favor him. No fucking wonder hes S rank if he can pick games by leaving like this. Literally abusing the system to gain MMR.

Ban this fucker

TT_TT is the definitive S-Rank, everyone can choose whether they go or not and if you have bad players and it shows beforehand that you can't win or it's difficult or because of the races of your allys, understandable. Furthermore, a large proportion of them probably cannot read. The rules are clearly defined, reporting any BM blabbering etc is nonsensical and only shows that you are pissed off and dissatisfied. It is a ladder, which ladder you can't manipulate or influence in your favor, especially since the BGHMMR system is written by one person and cannot keep up with other comparable ladders and such ladder systems can always be manipulated, more or less. Furthermore, what is the ban supposed to achieve? He has at least two other accounts that have S rank. So please spare us your public crying.


@MeSaber definitely has a valid complaint though. When I last played this ladder a month or so ago, I was matched four or five times against TT_TT aka Pssst. Not once did he play past the three minute mark. He seems to leave every game that doesn't open exactly as he would like, and wastes a lot of people's time in the process. And clearly this cowardly way of playing the ladder will boost his MMR a lot compared to a similarly skilled player who doesn't game the system.

I wish @D3AD-R3TARD would increase the temp ban duration to ten days or more for repeat leavers.


"Please provide more valid reasons, including concrete proof of how many times I've actually left a game.
I definitely didn’t leave multiple games in a row. About the rules, behaviors, I won’t elaborate further, as Waterfairy has already explained this.

If you’re new to BGHMMR, I suggest playing more to understand why S and A rankers might have similar behavior. Also, keep in mind that the 3-minute rule was set by the admin, not me. In fact, I was the one who requested its removal. Some players are misusing it, which is why I started following it. The more complaints there are about this rule, the more likely the admin will reconsider it.

Lastly, don’t jump to conclusions since you're new to the game. I’ve played over 5k matches, so your assumptions aren’t valid. If you want to prove your point, try doing exactly what I’ve been doing and make more BGHMMR scores than mine(I bet you will never reach the scores), I'll then agree your point. To me you're just an okay player not a good one.
Once you get S, you will be teaming up with 2Fs on the same team—you’ll see how frustrating it can get. The more you play, the more you'll understand.
leonardorm
Profile Joined August 2022
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-17 09:27:38
October 17 2024 09:13 GMT
#2868
On October 17 2024 04:16 iN3gos wrote:
Hi, D3AD-R3TARD,

What was the solution about Praxo?
.


IN3GOS YOU CLEARLY Dont know how to read or just you ARE too dumb to understand the rules or whatever the Admin writes

your expected "Solution" has been addressed 2 times by the admin Before

D3AD-R3TARD September 17 2024 22:03 GMT #2765

I also noted lots of incorrect reports:
Playing 'bad' or 'like a noob' is not a reason for ban.
Leaving early results in temp ban, please don't report it here.
Leaving later in the game is not bannable.
BM is not a reason for ban.
If you build nexus in someone else's base and he kills it - no ban.
If you died and made some other building in an ally base and they destroy it - no ban.


D3AD-R3TARD September 25 2024 22:03 GMT #2802
Veggetto and DarkStarOne were banned.

There are so many incorrect reports that I can't answer to all of them but there are some more reports to review that I've might have missed.


Please find someone who can help you read them and understand them,

If you find someone who can help you Read and Understand what the admin posts. Also please ask that person to help your READ and Understand the Rules written at the Bghmmr.pl website before you play any more games or make more incorrect stupid reports.

Because of dumb incorrect reports like yours. he cant address them all. So stfu and keep playing like a noob .
patetique
Profile Joined January 2023
115 Posts
October 17 2024 10:13 GMT
#2869
no no praxo. this is an abuse of rights. you won't be able to just shut it up, or convince someone that everything is okay and you're great. you are the worst player. an ill-mannered boor. abusing rights. you should be punished. and this is the opinion of the majority. you are an exception to the rule.

I'm sure the admin will hear us and we will finish this.
leonardorm
Profile Joined August 2022
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-18 22:40:24
October 17 2024 10:44 GMT
#2870
On October 17 2024 19:13 patetique wrote:
no no praxo. this is an abuse of rights. you won't be able to just shut it up, or convince someone that everything is okay and you're great. you are the worst player. an ill-mannered boor. abusing rights. you should be punished. and this is the opinion of the majority. you are an exception to the rule.

I'm sure the admin will hear us and we will finish this.

The admin has always "hears us" when we Report and provide convincing proof like screen shots, replays, videos etc
The admin will never "hear" a pigdog who is just frustrated with his recent last game outcome and comes here crying to beg for an answer and get his " lost" removed or somebody banned because we simply dont like him/her. and does not provide any evidence to point to the rule being broken.
patetique
Profile Joined January 2023
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-18 05:42:34
October 17 2024 13:28 GMT
#2871
On October 17 2024 19:44 leonardorm wrote:
The admin will never "hear" a pigdog



nice try praxo. nice try.. continue. dont stop.

and as a fact: notice - no one talks about how he play. everyone talks about the toxicity of the character. over BM in game and in lobby. we already had such. most were banned. one hasn't even been seen for a long time.
the air and the game becomes cleaner when you clean the shit out of the room.

do you really think that you are the only one who can be rude to everyone? no one can do it except you?
no. everyone can. but:
1. no one wants to stoop to your level
2. no one wants to mess with someone like you. everyone came to play, not to read all your words. no one is interested in that.

you are where you are. you enjoy the absence of the clause - ban for rudeness. the absence of the clause - ban for unjustified exit from the game.
the absence of the clause that you can behave like a piece of shit.
but no. no one will remain silent..
little Romanian boy...
beWaterMyFriend78
Profile Joined October 2021
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-17 21:28:03
October 17 2024 21:10 GMT
#2872
patetique
no no praxo. this is an abuse of rights. you won't be able to just shut it up, or convince someone that everything is okay and you're great. you are the worst player. an ill-mannered boor. abusing rights. you should be punished. and this is the opinion of the majority. you are an exception to the rule.

I'm sure the admin will hear us and we will finish this.

Aha sounds interesting, but unfortunately unfounded claims. The majority? Hardly the majority don't even post here! He plays for so long, if he misused something he would have been banned long ago. You will not succeed despite your expectations. I can assure you of that. Furthermore, you should perhaps keep your arguments a little more contained, everyone can say something.
btw Matias_SC is Haxby
patetique
Profile Joined January 2023
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-18 05:50:10
October 18 2024 05:45 GMT
#2873
On October 18 2024 06:10 beWaterMyFriend78 wrote:
Show nested quote +
patetique
no no praxo. this is an abuse of rights. you won't be able to just shut it up, or convince someone that everything is okay and you're great. you are the worst player. an ill-mannered boor. abusing rights. you should be punished. and this is the opinion of the majority. you are an exception to the rule.

I'm sure the admin will hear us and we will finish this.

Aha sounds interesting, but unfortunately unfounded claims. The majority? Hardly the majority don't even post here! He plays for so long, if he misused something he would have been banned long ago. You will not succeed despite your expectations. I can assure you of that. Furthermore, you should perhaps keep your arguments a little more contained, everyone can say something.
btw Matias_SC is Haxby


I made a mistake in the nickname. I already corrected it.
They look alike))
There were no problems with him before. Yes, sometimes a couple of hot words if we lost, but that's the case with everyone..
Only recently he has crossed all conceivable boundaries.

about the majority..

I read what they write about him in Lader. I see messages from people asking him over and over again not to quit the game, but to let them play in peace.
Unfortunately, many don't come here to express their opinion. But I'll ask to add.
Matias_SC
Profile Joined March 2022
119 Posts
October 18 2024 11:51 GMT
#2874
Ban request: Offence
reason: team attack(for no reason)
replay: https://repmastered.icza.net/game/tYHbsjDvvK_wjKA7QnQB3jqm-I_qqQTPbwH-8LW1pJ4
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland312 Posts
October 18 2024 21:34 GMT
#2875
I guess Haxby was exploiging a bug in the system. It should be fixed now.
https://bghmmr.eu
iN3gos
Profile Joined July 2024
40 Posts
October 19 2024 01:57 GMT
#2876
Hey,

Somebody used drophack against me.

Date 2024-10-19 2:45 am.
Players:
CentauriProxima, RookieLookie, iN3gos,
SKy^&^, sT.KeePer, Mr.JaKereR.

1:57s the game stopped, I was disconnected. I am banned from the other games today.

It looked like Centauri used "all" chat and exposed my race to enemy team.
I make assumption about my race being exposed because he was texting a lot about that I always T race and sT.KeePer (opposite team) asked Centauri to calm down. I accused Centauri in the chat of exposing my race, (I can't be sure). I was disconnected after Centauri aswered that he always use team chat only.

I can't blame anybody about drophack as I wouldn't have a proof. But how to check if the chat is "ally" or "all". From what I saw it looked like enemy team did hear the conversation.
Che cazzo
Profile Joined March 2024
200 Posts
October 19 2024 09:13 GMT
#2877
On October 19 2024 10:57 iN3gos wrote:
Hey,

Somebody used drophack against me.

Date 2024-10-19 2:45 am.
Players:
CentauriProxima, RookieLookie, iN3gos,
SKy^&^, sT.KeePer, Mr.JaKereR.

1:57s the game stopped, I was disconnected. I am banned from the other games today.

It looked like Centauri used "all" chat and exposed my race to enemy team.
I make assumption about my race being exposed because he was texting a lot about that I always T race and sT.KeePer (opposite team) asked Centauri to calm down. I accused Centauri in the chat of exposing my race, (I can't be sure). I was disconnected after Centauri aswered that he always use team chat only.

I can't blame anybody about drophack as I wouldn't have a proof. But how to check if the chat is "ally" or "all". From what I saw it looked like enemy team did hear the conversation.



You(iN3gos, aka Atokus who was banned from bot game by my report) and Haxby are intentionally and continuously making fake reports about me without any evidences. Here below is my kind reply.

1. 1:57s the game stopped, I was disconnected. I am banned from the other games today.
-> I was also disconnected. You will be able to see the game result of mine is "Disconnected".
[image loading]

When I was dropped from this game, I thought it was one-time network error, and I did not think somebody is using "drophack". But your are insisting me that I dropped you and your intention is to make me as a drophack player, right?

2. It looked like Centauri used "all" chat and exposed my race to enemy team.
I make assumption about my race being exposed because he was texting a lot about that I always T race and sT.KeePer (opposite team) asked Centauri to calm down. I accused Centauri in the chat of exposing my race, (I can't be sure). I was disconnected after Centauri answered that he always use team chat only.

-> During the game I only talked(bitching you) by ally chat and I already answered during the game about your comment(asking me if I am saying to everybody).
But you come here again and writing about me with fake shit. Before you complain about this, you should have evidence.
For disconnect, I already answer to above.

3. I can't blame anybody about drophack as I wouldn't have a proof. But how to check if the chat is "ally" or "all". From what I saw it looked like enemy team did hear the conversation.
-> The most precise evidence will be replay file of the opponent team and to see chat history from that file. In this way, you will see I was only talking to the team or not. Ask one of opponent team members(Mr. JakereR // Sky^&^ // sT.KeePer) to provide replay file of this game.
And after checking chat history, please write here about conclusion if I was talking to team only or to everybody.
If you don't write here about the conclusion, you are nothing more than a coward shit.


To simply talk about background between me and sT.KeePer, I was so much upset to play with this noob(like you) continuously in a same team. This noob is a talkative guy and he keep tried to talk to me but I never answered to him.
There are chat history between him for every game that he tried to talk to me, but no need to disclose here. It is matter of our privacy and you don't need to know about it.

You just entered in our 4th games, seeing our conversations, and make fiction shit here with your full imagination.
[image loading]

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So, don't waste my time and fuck off, or blame somebody with clear evidences.
iN3gos
Profile Joined July 2024
40 Posts
October 19 2024 22:03 GMT
#2878
Che cazzo,

The first thing to mention is that you are very wrong about:
"You(iN3gos, aka Atokus who was banned from bot game by my report) and Haxby are intentionally and continuously making fake reports about me without any evidences."

It is true that Atokus was banned from bot games because of your report. Atokus killed some of your units without intention to kill you (no ally change, no vision change). Atokus killed some of your units AFTER YOU ANNOUNCED THAT YOU ARE LEAVING. Your goal was to ban player, NOT to make the game more fun. In this case, you are a problem, and not Atokus. You make intentional report for your personal reasons to ban a player. You are intentionally posting about Atokus to make him look like ally killer, which is not correct. Administrator didn't want to spend time on analyzing specific cases and explain to people why some people get banned permanently and some other people get the ban lifted. It's by the way loads of work for 1 person to check on 1 k players, I hope you get it. So Atokus was banned enforcing the rules despite the facts mentioned above. Atokus wouldn't have any problem at the first place if he would have ./ignored you at the first place.

I am NOT making intentional and continuous reports about you as I report about direct problems that I encounter and describe them as detailed as I can, so admin/you/others would be able to understand problem from my point of view and correct me if I am wrong. You need to stop thinking that you are a victim of iN3gos reporting or Atokus' grudge. This is only in your head and you should learn to forget things. My personal problem with you is that you are trash-talking in the team chat so you disturb the fun and team game. The recent game was the only one I didn't do ./ignore as I wanted to check on how the team game works without ignore because with ./ignore (it was the only possible solution for my problem in this thread above) my performance in game while not hearing your trash-talks is much better and in replays it's visible that any of your team comments is useless, not to mention that I don't get any of your pms to me after the game. You are following the rules and I ./ignore your trash-talks -> I do not see any big problem, the more people play - the better.

Thank you for correcting me about the drophack. I assumed I got banned from the other games because I was the only one to get dropped in this case without loosing connection (as the fault is from the first player who ruined the game(or it is supposed to work like that)).

And thanks for the only answer for the 2nd question. I guess the only way to check for "all", "team chat" is to check other player account's replays.
Che cazzo
Profile Joined March 2024
200 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-20 01:00:57
October 20 2024 00:59 GMT
#2879
On October 20 2024 07:03 iN3gos wrote:
Che cazzo,

The first thing to mention is that you are very wrong about:
"You(iN3gos, aka Atokus who was banned from bot game by my report) and Haxby are intentionally and continuously making fake reports about me without any evidences."

It is true that Atokus was banned from bot games because of your report. Atokus killed some of your units without intention to kill you (no ally change, no vision change). Atokus killed some of your units AFTER YOU ANNOUNCED THAT YOU ARE LEAVING. Your goal was to ban player, NOT to make the game more fun. In this case, you are a problem, and not Atokus. You make intentional report for your personal reasons to ban a player. You are intentionally posting about Atokus to make him look like ally killer, which is not correct. Administrator didn't want to spend time on analyzing specific cases and explain to people why some people get banned permanently and some other people get the ban lifted. It's by the way loads of work for 1 person to check on 1 k players, I hope you get it. So Atokus was banned enforcing the rules despite the facts mentioned above. Atokus wouldn't have any problem at the first place if he would have ./ignored you at the first place.

I am NOT making intentional and continuous reports about you as I report about direct problems that I encounter and describe them as detailed as I can, so admin/you/others would be able to understand problem from my point of view and correct me if I am wrong. You need to stop thinking that you are a victim of iN3gos reporting or Atokus' grudge. This is only in your head and you should learn to forget things. My personal problem with you is that you are trash-talking in the team chat so you disturb the fun and team game. The recent game was the only one I didn't do ./ignore as I wanted to check on how the team game works without ignore because with ./ignore (it was the only possible solution for my problem in this thread above) my performance in game while not hearing your trash-talks is much better and in replays it's visible that any of your team comments is useless, not to mention that I don't get any of your pms to me after the game. You are following the rules and I ./ignore your trash-talks -> I do not see any big problem, the more people play - the better.

Thank you for correcting me about the drophack. I assumed I got banned from the other games because I was the only one to get dropped in this case without loosing connection (as the fault is from the first player who ruined the game(or it is supposed to work like that)).

And thanks for the only answer for the 2nd question. I guess the only way to check for "all", "team chat" is to check other player account's replays.



My reply follow hereunder:

1. Admin watched the replay that I reported you for attacking teammate. And admin has clear opinion that it was obvious ban reason. Link: #2101

2. You are not a victim of my report. You deserve ban for what you did(attacking teammate) and other people also think you should get a permanent ban. Link: #2591

Please don't try to waste my time anymore. No more reply will be made.
Che cazzo
Profile Joined March 2024
200 Posts
October 20 2024 01:13 GMT
#2880
On October 19 2024 06:34 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
I guess Haxby was exploiging a bug in the system. It should be fixed now.



Haxby, you hack user?
Hacksby :D
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