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Minus_zero
Profile Joined July 2022
17 Posts
December 27 2024 11:33 GMT
#3041
@D3AD-R3TARD If you think banning someone for leaving a game like that deserves a ban, then he's a fucking idiot. Praxo ruins every other game he plays, but he doesn't have a problem because he leaves the game when the 5th minute is up and fuck it, you're doomed to fail then. You lose points and time, but that's not important. The most important thing is that he's not breaking the rules that some idiot came up with. If 9 out of 10 people tell you you're wrong, then you're wrong and stop defending yourself. Change the rules because soon no one will want to play this game.
Minus_zero
Profile Joined July 2022
17 Posts
December 27 2024 11:36 GMT
#3042
I have almost 3k games on my account, Effor has almost 20k and for something like that a ban. PATHETIC!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25334 Posts
December 27 2024 13:27 GMT
#3043
On December 27 2024 20:33 Minus_zero wrote:
@D3AD-R3TARD If you think banning someone for leaving a game like that deserves a ban, then he's a fucking idiot. Praxo ruins every other game he plays, but he doesn't have a problem because he leaves the game when the 5th minute is up and fuck it, you're doomed to fail then. You lose points and time, but that's not important. The most important thing is that he's not breaking the rules that some idiot came up with. If 9 out of 10 people tell you you're wrong, then you're wrong and stop defending yourself. Change the rules because soon no one will want to play this game.

What do you propose?

Retard has a finite amount of time, in a perfect world he’d be able to judge ban criteria on a case-by-case basis, but as he does not, the rules are set accordingly. They’re black and white and easy to administer.

Now perhaps if there are players that consistently go against the spirit of the rules, fuck games up and deliberately do just enough to not actually break the rules, and a lot of players have issues with their conduct, yeah there’s a case to just ban them.



'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
December 27 2024 18:16 GMT
#3044
On December 27 2024 22:27 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2024 20:33 Minus_zero wrote:
@D3AD-R3TARD If you think banning someone for leaving a game like that deserves a ban, then he's a fucking idiot. Praxo ruins every other game he plays, but he doesn't have a problem because he leaves the game when the 5th minute is up and fuck it, you're doomed to fail then. You lose points and time, but that's not important. The most important thing is that he's not breaking the rules that some idiot came up with. If 9 out of 10 people tell you you're wrong, then you're wrong and stop defending yourself. Change the rules because soon no one will want to play this game.

What do you propose?

No proposal, just impotent, entitled, childish whining about a free service someone provides to the community for no material benefit. It's like they don't understand that he could easily say "okay this is too much trouble because of all the people constantly bitching at me, I'm just going to shut it down," which has happened countless times in this community.

On September 03 2019 05:29 intrigue wrote:
this always happens. it goes like this:

step 1: someone puts in a lot of time to give us really good content
step 2: someone comes along and make a horrifically stupid comment
step 3: everyone gets moderated and we stop getting content

my suspicion is that this cycle can be broken if we can just eliminate step 2. it'd be nice if we collectively tried to do this. A.Alm i understand you are only working with what god gave you but please try your best

thank you everybody for your cooperation
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland301 Posts
December 27 2024 21:57 GMT
#3045
On December 27 2024 20:33 Minus_zero wrote:
@D3AD-R3TARD If you think banning someone for leaving a game like that deserves a ban, then he's a fucking idiot. Praxo ruins every other game he plays, but he doesn't have a problem because he leaves the game when the 5th minute is up and fuck it, you're doomed to fail then. You lose points and time, but that's not important. The most important thing is that he's not breaking the rules that some idiot came up with. If 9 out of 10 people tell you you're wrong, then you're wrong and stop defending yourself. Change the rules because soon no one will want to play this game.


This rule is in play for 7 months. There are two messages that tell player when it is ok and not ok to leave. This rule made ruining lobby way less frequent. Majority of more than 1000 players who played in last month seems to understand it. So yeah I am a fucking idiot for thinking this...

Also I've added a pool to see what people think about this rule. If there is indeed only 10% approval then I'll remove it.

Poll: Should leaving lobby after "don't leave" message be banned?

Yes (20)
 
71%

No (8)
 
29%

28 total votes

Your vote: Should leaving lobby after "don't leave" message be banned?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



https://bghmmr.eu
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9505 Posts
December 27 2024 22:35 GMT
#3046
I think you should just introduce temp bans. Getting permanently banned on an account with thousand of games because you left the lobby once during countdown (can happen on accident too) would just suck. Especially if you don't have enough free time to get another account to 50 wins in public games, which makes it much more likely you'll just stop playing the bot games. I know that's what I would do if my account got banned for whatever reason.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
December 27 2024 23:01 GMT
#3047
Agree that leaving after countdown should result in ban but I also think it shouldn't be a permanent ban and especially that single offenses should be punished harshly because it might actually have been an accident.
Moderator
ameba..
Profile Joined October 2024
21 Posts
December 28 2024 09:41 GMT
#3048
Agree with only temp ban proposed by 2Pacalypse.

@D3AD-R3TARD
https://bghmmr.eu/ seems to be down for several days.
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland301 Posts
December 28 2024 12:18 GMT
#3049
On December 28 2024 18:41 ameba.. wrote:
Agree with only temp ban proposed by 2Pacalypse.

@D3AD-R3TARD
https://bghmmr.eu/ seems to be down for several days.


Thats strange. Google analytics shows site running last week no problem.
https://bghmmr.eu
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1375 Posts
December 28 2024 13:30 GMT
#3050
the homepage hasnt been working for me for like 2-3 days
mada mada dane
jedongpoker
Profile Joined October 2024
10 Posts
December 28 2024 14:24 GMT
#3051
for me site was running

anyway perm ban for leaving after msg and temp ban after leaving in game is a sad joke
Atokus
Profile Blog Joined February 2024
10 Posts
December 28 2024 18:55 GMT
#3052
On December 26 2024 08:02 Haxby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2024 01:40 Atokus wrote:
Merry Christmas to everyone!

I am banned for 327 days, when will my ban expire?

NEVER! The ban is FOREVER can you understand that? And it should stay that! If you break the rules you get banned FOREVER
Merry Christmas


Haxby,

I came with a new fact about the situation when I was banned. Maybe not everybody knows.
Observer's replay does not have recorded in-game-conversation!
So when D3AD-R3TARD was considering banning me, he couldn't see the game objectively.
This is precise in-game-chat after our teammate left:

00:17:10 Cannon_in_D :gg
00:19:19 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :cancel
00:19:20 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :6
00:19:21 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :idiot
00:19:26 Atokus ??
00:19:31 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :cancel
00:19:40 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :if you dont cancel
00:19:41 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i leave
00:19:45 (My tanks start shooting, no ally, vision change - I expected him to leave, the game was over)
00:19:57 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl
00:20:03 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :why you attack me?
00:20:04 Atokus :you can leave idiot
00:20:10 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :you see forum
00:20:13 Atokus :yeah
00:20:14 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i banned 2 guys recently
00:20:16 Atokus :waiting for it
00:20:19 Atokus :faggit
00:20:19 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :and you will be banned
00:20:24 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i report you
00:20:27 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :you get ban
00:20:33 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :keep attack me
00:20:37 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :so that i can ban you
00:20:44 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :very good
00:20:48 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :attack me all
00:21:00 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :last week i reported piramidata and get banned
00:21:04 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :and this week you get ban
00:21:14 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :see forum
00:21:19 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :today i report you
00:21:21 Atokus :cry more
00:21:23 Atokus :you ididot
00:21:28 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :very very good
00:21:30 Atokus :whats ryour name faggot
00:21:31 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :10 mins later
00:21:32 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :see forum
00:21:32 Atokus :;DDD
00:21:32 Cannon_in_D :gg
00:21:35 Atokus :gg
00:21:37 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i write
00:21:40 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i report you

From here it's visible that I wasn't some troll ally-killer, but attack happened after my teammate betrayed the team declaring that he is leaving. And he didn't leave the game for the only reason to report me.

The rule was this: "Attacking teammates will result in a ban".
I had no teammates at the time of attack, so I couldn't break the rules.

We need better judicial system.
Che cazzo
Profile Joined March 2024
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-29 02:22:39
December 29 2024 02:01 GMT
#3053
On December 29 2024 03:55 Atokus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2024 08:02 Haxby wrote:
On December 26 2024 01:40 Atokus wrote:
Merry Christmas to everyone!

I am banned for 327 days, when will my ban expire?

NEVER! The ban is FOREVER can you understand that? And it should stay that! If you break the rules you get banned FOREVER
Merry Christmas


Haxby,

I came with a new fact about the situation when I was banned. Maybe not everybody knows.
Observer's replay does not have recorded in-game-conversation!
So when D3AD-R3TARD was considering banning me, he couldn't see the game objectively.
This is precise in-game-chat after our teammate left:

00:17:10 Cannon_in_D :gg
00:19:19 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :cancel
00:19:20 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :6
00:19:21 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :idiot
00:19:26 Atokus ??
00:19:31 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :cancel
00:19:40 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :if you dont cancel
00:19:41 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i leave
00:19:45 (My tanks start shooting, no ally, vision change - I expected him to leave, the game was over)
00:19:57 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl
00:20:03 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :why you attack me?
00:20:04 Atokus :you can leave idiot
00:20:10 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :you see forum
00:20:13 Atokus :yeah
00:20:14 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i banned 2 guys recently
00:20:16 Atokus :waiting for it
00:20:19 Atokus :faggit
00:20:19 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :and you will be banned
00:20:24 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i report you
00:20:27 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :you get ban
00:20:33 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :keep attack me
00:20:37 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :so that i can ban you
00:20:44 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :very good
00:20:48 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :attack me all
00:21:00 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :last week i reported piramidata and get banned
00:21:04 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :and this week you get ban
00:21:14 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :see forum
00:21:19 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :today i report you
00:21:21 Atokus :cry more
00:21:23 Atokus :you ididot
00:21:28 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :very very good
00:21:30 Atokus :whats ryour name faggot
00:21:31 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :10 mins later
00:21:32 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :see forum
00:21:32 Atokus :;DDD
00:21:32 Cannon_in_D :gg
00:21:35 Atokus :gg
00:21:37 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i write
00:21:40 IIIIIIIlIIlIIIl :i report you

From here it's visible that I wasn't some troll ally-killer, but attack happened after my teammate betrayed the team declaring that he is leaving. And he didn't leave the game for the only reason to report me.

The rule was this: "Attacking teammates will result in a ban".
I had no teammates at the time of attack, so I couldn't break the rules.

We need better judicial system.



You are very mean.
You always appear like a hyena when forum is noisy.
You bring this topic every time when there is harsh debate about ban.

You got permanent ban by attacking teammate.There is no debate, no support about your action. Admin clearly saw replay and replied to your objection(Link: #2101
), but you are keep writing same shit continuously.

In past few days, we lost 3 decent & historical zerg players by leaving lobby after game start. It is very sad and pity, and I agree this should be changed to temp. ban.
But your case is different. You attacked teammate and got permanent ban. Don't treat your ban same to leaving ban.

Last thing, I want to point out is, you are lying and twisting the fact. You said:
1)"From here it's visible that I wasn't some troll ally-killer, but attack happened after my teammate betrayed the team declaring that he is leaving."
→ Don't try fool people here. Nobody betrayed the team, but only you betrayed the team, and only you got permanent ban as result.
2) "Observer's replay does not have recorded in-game-conversation!
So when D3AD-R3TARD was considering banning me, he couldn't see the game objectively.
"
→ No, admin can see chat history. In the early stage of bot game, admin used to ban players from chats.(Link: #95)

You deserve it. End of story.
(But I am sure you will come back again like hyena, when forum is noisy.)
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
December 29 2024 08:07 GMT
#3054
Why BghBotmmr_EU2 have setting "unit limits: original", and BghBotmmr_EU4 have "unit limits: extended"? Does extended mean you can have more than 200 limit?
BroodWar forever
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1375 Posts
December 29 2024 08:14 GMT
#3055
On December 29 2024 17:07 Esp1noza wrote:
Why BghBotmmr_EU2 have setting "unit limits: original", and BghBotmmr_EU4 have "unit limits: extended"? Does extended mean you can have more than 200 limit?


had a few games with valks stopped shooting rather early into the game, would be great if this would be fixable

also the homepage working for anybody right now? timeout for me last few days
mada mada dane
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
December 29 2024 08:51 GMT
#3056
On December 29 2024 17:07 Esp1noza wrote:
Why BghBotmmr_EU2 have setting "unit limits: original", and BghBotmmr_EU4 have "unit limits: extended"? Does extended mean you can have more than 200 limit?


no it's not about 200 limit, but about total unit limit on the map (of all players, including interceptors, scarabs and probably valk shoots, which aren't units but projectiles, like kAra said. The limit of all those small "units" is 2000 or something or maybe 4000. In extended, it is just bigger.


On December 29 2024 17:14 kAra wrote:

also the homepage working for anybody right now? timeout for me last few days


working fine
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
December 29 2024 10:18 GMT
#3057
On December 29 2024 17:14 kAra wrote:
also the homepage working for anybody right now? timeout for me last few days

It's working all the last days, but for some people in the thread is not working.
BroodWar forever
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-30 09:25:23
December 30 2024 03:45 GMT
#3058
https://bghmmr.eu/ loads properly when I am on my mobile device and browsing using 5g

But it does not load at all when I try to access it using my computer on a wifi connection.

I recorded my experience below:



Seems like a bunch of others are reporting to have the same problem loading the site if admin is able to look into it.
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
December 30 2024 12:59 GMT
#3059
haha that video to prove you speak the truth :D i giggled

no but seriously, I appreciate your effort

It means that the website is up, its something related to your device or network, like DNS maybe.
Have you tried accessing on mobile, but not using 5g, but home wi-fi network? Have you tried other browsers?

As i said, for me it works on every device, however when I enter the website and too quickly click Games tab or i refresh once or twice, it sometimes goes out too. Website is working (black layout) but instead of contents, I get the following error.

The error reads:
"Warning: SQLite3::query(): Unable to prepare statement: database disk image is malformed in /home/platne/serwer316669/public_html/bghmmr.eu/games.php on line 36

Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Call to a member function fetchArray() on false in /home/platne/serwer316669/public_html/bghmmr.eu/games.php:37 Stack trace: #0 {main} thrown in /home/platne/serwer316669/public_html/bghmmr.eu/games.php on line 37"
rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States134 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-30 17:10:38
December 30 2024 15:57 GMT
#3060
@ dead retard:
There is a clear indication that the users would appreciate a SABC bot 24/7. I think the demand is there.
Also the removal of DEF bots replaced with an SAB or SABC given the lack of usage here.

Also this:
On December 29 2024 17:07 Esp1noza wrote:
Why BghBotmmr_EU2 have setting "unit limits: original", and BghBotmmr_EU4 have "unit limits: extended"? Does extended mean you can have more than 200 limit?


Do you have plans to incorporate any of these ideas/ fixes?
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