EPTInterview with Avi[ReV] - Part 1
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CadenZie
Korea (South)417 Posts
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Avi-Love
Denmark297 Posts
On February 07 2020 07:06 CadenZie wrote: can i get paid Solicitation of a lewd nature is illegal. | ||
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CadenZie
Korea (South)417 Posts
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Avi-Love
Denmark297 Posts
On February 07 2020 07:16 CadenZie wrote: can i get a hug then   Always, I owe you after all the help you provided me ^o^ | ||
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TT1
Canada9242 Posts
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JustTooJuicy
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia8248 Posts
i hope it's a trilogy at least! | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada1985 Posts
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Akio
Finland983 Posts
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abuse
Latvia1832 Posts
I think both my macro and knowledge of timings/specific builds is trash, and I always wing it while having several k minerals and gas in the bank, but I end up winning much more I should and I have no idea why. Not against terran though, facing terran needs skill and I don't have that. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom11495 Posts
Just because you can't do something doesn't mean you can't understand the theory. I am far from a genius, but I definitely feel my understanding is way above the MMR I sit at and that's because I spend hours watching games/reading up on theory and what not. I just suck at actually playing the game itself. I don't know what you feel about my knowledge of the game, maybe you think I know jack shit and that's fair enough I guess :D Great interview, can't wait for Part 2 Incomplete! | ||
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iRk-AGge
Sweden278 Posts
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Comedy
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On February 07 2020 21:05 Qikz wrote: I've argued with you about this before Avi, but I think it's perfectly reasonable that some people are able to understand something and not execute it. That's why coaches exist. There's coaches in sports or even eSports that have never played the game and they still have a deep understanding. Just because you can't do something doesn't mean you can't understand the theory. I am far from a genius, but I definitely feel my understanding is way above the MMR I sit at and that's because I spend hours watching games/reading up on theory and what not. I just suck at actually playing the game itself. I don't know what you feel about my knowledge of the game, maybe you think I know jack shit and that's fair enough I guess :D Great interview, can't wait for Part 2 Incomplete! you are right, but when you are actually playing the games (many many games), there are so many different things that you feel while you are playing, little movements and mind games between you and your opponent, that it is extremely difficult to really know what it is like to play high level games untill you actually do it yourself. | ||
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Q~Bert
United States579 Posts
On February 07 2020 23:32 Comedy wrote: you are right, but when you are actually playing the games (many many games), there are so many different things that you feel while you are playing, little movements and mind games between you and your opponent, that it is extremely difficult to really know what it is like to play high level games untill you actually do it yourself. Precisely. Being able to watch/cast games and seemingly understanding the position and builds/timings while having full vision of the map is not even in the same galaxy. And to reference the above's point on mind games and little movements (tactics) - these are very real and paramount variables in higher level games. Now to take into account analyzing all of this information (not including the psychological warfare when playing an opponent you have history with) in real time with fog of war and still maintaining your macro is a different animal. Even I can understand why pros are making the decisions they are making when watching an FPVOD, because I can devote everything to just watching rather than 300 apm. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom11495 Posts
On February 07 2020 23:45 Q~Bert wrote: Precisely. Being able to watch/cast games and seemingly understanding the position and builds/timings while having full vision of the map is not even in the same galaxy. And to reference the above's point on mind games and little movements (tactics) - these are very real and paramount variables in higher level games. Now to take into account analyzing all of this information (not including the psychological warfare when playing an opponent you have history with) in real time with fog of war and still maintaining your macro is a different animal. Even I can understand why pros are making the decisions they are making when watching an FPVOD, because I can devote everything to just watching rather than 300 apm. Ah, I think I missunderstood Avi's point. I thought he meant it was impossible to have an understanding of the game better than your execution. When you're playing I think understanding even involves what to do when which is something I am awful at, but I think when casting/watching I think it's quite a bit easier to understand and analyse. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9875 Posts
how is this still something that needs to be explained in 2020 | ||
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9875 Posts
the actual execution of that concept, e.g. weaving between defenders, introduces massive complexity and even more decisions. whats ur path? what are this guy's tendencies? is he off balance? who's open? if uve never been there and never had to make all those tiny decisions in rapid succession, ull never even realize that they exist | ||
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SuGo
United States610 Posts
"tomfoolery" was used in a sentence | ||
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TT1
Canada9242 Posts
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KwarK
United States35885 Posts
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