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[ASL8] Semifinals Preview - This is the End
August 19th, 2019 10:22 GMT
The Ro4 is classically referred to as the "finals before the finals" because of its penchant to pit the best players against each other. So many tournaments are remembered for their semifinals more than their finals. More often than not, these wild, everything-on-the-line matches end up being closer fought and more heavily contested than the crown itself. The difference between first and second is brutal, but the difference between coming in second and coming in third is massive.
The matchups this week are the finals before the finals. Expect both matches to be incredibly close and tense. This is the time for players to buckle down and bring out their best. If they bring everything they've got, maybe...just maybe...they might get a chance to walk out on stage next weekend as champion.
The Path of Daggers “On the heights, the paths are paved with daggers.” - Seanchan saying As the culling continues on the way to the final match, the surviving players are the sturdiest, strongest, smartest, and trickiest, and these two are certainly no exception. Snow was a runner-up in Season 5 and placed Top 4 in KSL3 while Action has been steadily improving to claim his first semifinals appearance. Known for his PvT prowess and impeccable Shuttle/Reaver micro, Snow was considered a one matchup specialist for a while, but through hard work and exclusive preparation, his previously mediocre results versus Zerg have improved considerably to the point where he eliminated Soulkey in KSL3, a time when Soulkey was widely considered the best Zerg player in the world. Snow consistently rocks an online win rate in PvZ greater than 60%, and August is no exception. He utilizes clean, Stork-like builds with forge openings, he scouts meticulously, and he does not refrain from using reavers when possible. His considerable offline experience—including his 3-2 win against Flash himself—make him a very dangerous adversary. His defense against early to midgame aggression might be considered a weak point after a series of sharp hydra pushes by MisO broke his back in their first KSL3 group match. He also lost to a well-designed build and mind game from ZeLoT this season. However, aside from these minor scouting snafus, Snow has got the matchup downloaded. Action should not be underestimated, though. He put up a fight against Rain in his ASL debut in Season 5 performed admirably in Season 6 before narrowly losing to a surprisingly in-form Shuttle. Last season didn’t go very well for him—he was eliminated by PianO in the group stage after losing to Snow in the winners match. Still, he shows great potential. Action’s online win rate sits at a respectable 62.5% throughout the summer. His style versus Protoss is very much designed to disrupt builds, throw off timings, and cause mishap and mayhem for his opponent. His early game unit control is exquisite as shown in his 3-0 thrashing of ASL7 runner-up Mini during their KSL3 group match. In the face of hyper-aggression, he sometimes snatches victory from the jaws of defeat with quick reaction time on drones and impeccable mutalisk micro. We can expect Action to poke, prod, and be a general nuisance throughout the series. Should the game stabilize and enter the macro stage, Action is at a slight disadvantage despite his good mechanics. The biggest issue, however, could be Action’s physical and mental state. In mid August he had surgery for acute appendicitis, but he was back on track just three days later and in apparently good form, defeating Best 3-1. This is surely a surprise even considering his immense work ethic, as recovering from even routine surgery is nothing to scoff at. The extent of his recovery remains to be seen. Regarding maps, Snow chose to ban Multiverse and Action vetoed Block Chain, which leaves Neo Bloody Ridge, Neo Sylphid, Overwatch, Tripod, and Neo Ground Zero to be played. The first three of the maps are fairly balanced in both geography and stats with a slight advantage for Protoss on Overwatch; Tripod and Neo Ground Zero are skewed a bit towards Zerg. With both players’ penchant for specialized builds, we can expect them to exploit any slight geographic feature of all of those maps. Snow in particular might be interested in his feared Reaver/Shuttle style in a speed Zealot/Reaver build on Tripod. Action has demonstrated significant mastery of the so-called “9734” build that is all the hype versus Protoss lately, so Snow’s answer to it remains to be seen. The players’ styles clash in a way that makes the matchup really exciting and tough to accurately predict. With all of the “hard” data—regarding statistics, strengths and weaknesses—being taken into account, possibly the most important variable in this match is the players’ state of mind. In that regard, Snow’s mindset is considerably more robust with more stage experience and significantly better offline results. The ruthlessness he displayed in dismantling Last is outright frightening, and he styled on the best Zerg in the world in their KSL3 match with a Dark Archon and Maelstrom. Action, on the other hand, has looked a bit tense and is still recuperating. Assuming he’s in top condition, he’s a more than adequate opponent for Protoss virtuoso Snow and can give him a run for his money, but I’d still consider Snow the favorite here. Snow to win and advance to the Grand Final!Editor's note: Action recently underwent an emergency appendectomy and is still recovering from surgery. Whether he will be in good enough health to play his match is unknown at this time. The By.clan Clash
When KeSPA switched to StarCraft II, Flash was leaving a scene he'd dominated from a very young age. Rain, on the other hand, hadn't seen as much success by any applicable measure. A lot has happened since. While Flash is often considered to have had a rather lackluster career in SC2 with a single gold at IEM Toronto in 2014, Rain reigned supreme in both the GSL and the OSL on top of multiple Top 8 finishes across a wide spectrum of tours. Flash chose to bid farewell to SC2 much sooner than Rain did and quite frankly hasn't had too much trouble reasserting himself as the most dominant Brood War player of all time. This time (and as far as BW is concerned), though, Rain is hot on his heels and suddenly rocketing to stardom off the back of an ASL/KSL trophy combo.
The Flash of yore, whilst by and large being unanimously hailed the best gamer of all time, still faced opposition—in the rest of TBLS, in young up-and-comer Fantasy, or in Effort...opposition that isn't quite there anymore. Jaedong has faded into obscurity. Stork has likewise struggled to find himself in the post-KeSPA landscape of BW. Bisu spent the last two years collapsing North Korean tunnels that dot the border (well, I imagine he did) and might never get to face off against Flash again. Fantasy deems SC2 to be his calling. Effort is currently chucking grenades at straw dummies (well, he might be, right?). Who's to stop Flash from cruising to yet another ASL victory if his nemeses have all but disappeared?
Well, even though they might not have as cool a nickname (yet) as the Six Dragons or the Three Kings, there's a host of new kids on the block taking over. There's Last, Rain, Snow, Sharp, a bunch of others with flashes of brilliance and pretty big shoes to fill. Despite the rise of various other esports in Korea and a more light-hearted approach to Brood War on the whole, StarCraft lives on. But it won't manage without players willing to commit themselves to the progaming life. Flash has done this for so long, sacrificing his body and mind to the game, and finally his body is giving out on him.
This might be Flash's last tournament, ever.
Winning an ASL would be a fitting send-off for a player as storied as the Ultimate Weapon. But, wouldn't the scene rather have Rain reign supreme, knowing that, even though Flash, the best gamer of all time, is gone, Brood War is in good hands? It's one thing to be considered the best if Flash isn't there...but the slaying of a god by the hands of a player who has reached that peak despite the biggest hurdle of all still in their way? That would be the true passing of the torch.
Many hoped for these two in the finals, but, alas, that is not the case. I'm not going to look at stats this time, or at their head-to-head record because, frankly, I don't think any of it matters.
All I know is you can't miss this one.
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Wow, I hope Action gets well very soon. Really looking forward to the semis.
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Belgium9937 Posts
Amazing semis, I can't wait for Flash vs Rain.
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Let the Lord of Chaos rule.
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Rooting for Mafia zerg and Flash for all KT finals.
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No prediction for Flash-Rain? I would personally like to see Snow against Flash in the finals.
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Yeah, Flash vs Snow would be an epic final.
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Just my own thoughts, % to win ASL 8 Flash 40% Rain 35% Action 15% SnOw 10%
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In fact, as much as i like SnOw and respect his game, everything is against him except the acute appendicitis Action is, imho, favorite against him in a BO5. His best match up will be matched against Flash who just look unstoppable at the moment, especially in a BO5 (sorry, no more ASL 5 maps). And If ever he face Rain in the finals, no need to say that a sweep is on the menu
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On August 19 2019 21:42 TornadoSteve wrote: In fact, as much as i like SnOw and respect his game, everything is against him except the acute appendicitis Action is, imho, favorite against him in a BO5. His best match up will be matched against Flash who just look unstoppable at the moment, especially in a BO5 (sorry, no more ASL 5 maps). And If ever he face Rain in the finals, no need to say that a sweep is on the menu
Snow is about even against Action without appendicitis and most likely has better chanches than Rain against Flash. Finals will most likely be a BO7 and I'm not sure this would be good for Flash considering how serious his health issues seem to be.
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Snow is very entertaining to watch guys. I think this will be super exciting. Remember Snow won Flash in a tournament with a proxy robo cheeze? And another game he beat a good Zerg with 1base speed Reaver. I hope he delivers some good cheeze against Action and Flash!
Snow vs Action My prediction: Snow
Rain vs Flash My prediction: Flash (But remember Rain had some epic cheezes against Last in a recent tournament where he sent 2 probes out in a 3 player map to proxy inbase 2 gateways in a PvT).
It will be an amazing semi-finals. I think the players that are diehard Rain fans are not realistic in their expectations when the spon-match statistics show Rain only winning 37% of the time vs Flash. I hope for an exciting close series though.
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That's not good, Action looked pretty sickly when he faced off against Sharp. I hope he will play, cause I want to see more Snow games.
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Seanchan you say? A fellow Wheel of Time reader, I see Nice.
IMO SnOw vs FlaSh finals. Would be great.
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Pretty split on whether I want Rain or FlaSh to take their semi (and likely the subsequent finals) for the same reasons mentioned in the preview. FlaSh winning would be a great send off, but it would also leave a big asterisk on every subsequent ASL championship. Rain has showed so much good play lately, would be really cool to see him vindicated in such a way.
I guess in the end though, it's hard not to cheer for the Ultimate Weapon, even as a Rain fan. FlaSh is just such a good guy
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Flash vs Rain will be so sick. I wouldn't want to be the one facing the Ultimate Weapon in the semifinals of an offline tournament that could be his last.
I predict Snow vs Flash finals
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I'm kind of expecting for Flash to stomp Rain, though maybe I'm underestimating Rain. If Rain wins this he'll probably win the tournament (100% if Snow advances). But having a back and forth record against Last and even Sharp makes me doubt him.
Mostly though, all I want from this tournament is a Flash/Snow rematch finals. I think it's the most likely outcome and would be the best match possible.
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I wonder if FlaSh can overcome the curse of not having more than 3 championships per tournament. None of pros who considered bonjwa, who won golden mouse/badge went to winning 4th title. Maybe God can break another record this time before he leaves?
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Seems to me that for the finals to be at least somewhat close it needs to be flash vs snow or maybe action vs rain. I doubt that snow would be able to take more than 1 game off of rain, or action 1 game off of flash. But a snow vs flash finals would probably be very fun, and a great sendoff for flash to get some redemption against snow in his final tournament.
Glad that action is recovering from his surgery, hopefully it won't affect his performance too much :\
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damn, i'm sorry to hear about action needing surgery. He did look a bit off last week. Would they delay the game til he recovers I wonder?
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Where does the information about exactly that order of cards in tomorrow's match come from?
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Where does the information about exactly that order of maps in tomorrow's match come from?
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Flash vs Rain is unpredictable to the point that it might be a 3-0 either way.
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Snow vs Flash rematch would be epic. Either way whoever wins would be a good plot line. Snow winning on non-imba maps or Flash winning a 4 gold medal to break the curse. And Flash having real shoulder problems could make the series unusually close. I think his shoulder is worse than the last time he lost to Snow albeit on Pesagi maps.
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what will be the order of the maps?
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On August 19 2019 23:22 outscar wrote: I wonder if FlaSh can overcome the curse of not having more than 3 championships per tournament. None of pros who considered bonjwa, who won golden mouse/badge went to winning 4th title. Maybe God can break another record this time before he leaves? Not sure it's really a curse, maybe he just gets bored of winning and doesn't train as hard after winning 3
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ALLEYCAT BLUES48992 Posts
On August 20 2019 01:32 andertalets77 wrote: what will be the order of the maps?
It's on Liquipedia
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On August 20 2019 01:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2019 01:32 andertalets77 wrote: what will be the order of the maps? It's on Liquipedia
Afreeca Starleague Season 8
Each match has its own unique order of maps. if you mean this page, then here this information is provided about those matches that have already been played
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On August 20 2019 01:12 Alpha-NP- wrote: Snow vs Flash rematch would be epic. Either way whoever wins would be a good plot line. Snow winning on non-imba maps or Flash winning a 4 gold medal to break the curse. And Flash having real shoulder problems could make the series unusually close. I think his shoulder is worse than the last time he lost to Snow albeit on Pesagi maps.
Are there sponmatch stats for tripod and multiverse? multiverse might be OK for T, but tripod seems P favored, no? Surprisingly no TvP has been played on tripod so far this entire ASL.
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United States4883 Posts
On August 20 2019 00:38 andertalets77 wrote: Where does the information about exactly that order of maps in tomorrow's match come from?
[10:31 AM] TaardadAiel: I get mine from namu.wiki
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ALLEYCAT BLUES48992 Posts
On August 20 2019 02:03 andertalets77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2019 01:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:On August 20 2019 01:32 andertalets77 wrote: what will be the order of the maps? It's on Liquipedia Afreeca Starleague Season 8Each match has its own unique order of maps. if you mean this page, then here this information is provided about those matches that have already been played
It clearly shows the map order for the semifinals which have not been played yet.
You need to click on the "i" button
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I hope for a Snow vs Flash finals….so probably will end up being injured action vs Rain :/
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Rooting for a Snow vs Flash rematch, as that would be the best finals
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I’d bet money that no other player in the world would rather face Flash instead of Rain in a Bo5 Finals.
This is Flash’s last tournament. This is gonna be a mounumetus change for the scene, and a real end of an era. Without the big names of the Kespa days still dominating, we are entering the new era... the afreeca era
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I only ask for a non PvP finals because Rain would wreck Snow. Any other combination seems better on paper.
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Would give decent odds on anyone whos willing to bet about flash not playing another tournament... lol
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On August 20 2019 07:05 TornadoSteve wrote: Would give decent odds on anyone whos willing to bet about flash not playing another tournament... lol
FlaSh needs to loose, preferably to SnOw (2nd time ouch!) so he can consider playing another one. If he wins he will retire 100%.
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What’s so daunting about multiverse that a second Protoss has vetoed it rather than tripod?
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Ugh, this feels like it’s heading to an underwhelming Flash v Hero (in this case Action) type finals again.
I’m not fussed re Flash v Rain but really hope Snow wins to give the finals a bit more punch. Action is a good player but I feel he has benefitted a bit from a soft(ish) bracket.
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On August 20 2019 10:30 RowdierBob wrote: Ugh, this feels like it’s heading to an underwhelming Flash v Hero (in this case Action) type finals again.
I’m not fussed re Flash v Rain but really hope Snow wins to give the finals a bit more punch. Action is a good player but I feel he has benefitted a bit from a soft(ish) bracket.
glad im not the only one with this sentiment
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[The Ro4 is classically referred to as the "finals before the finals"]
I don't think that's very common, is it?
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