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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
April 08 2019 05:46 GMT
#41
group D wtf
POGGERS
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
April 08 2019 06:51 GMT
#42
Lol group D, champions of the past vs champions of current era. Has the current champions really taken over the scene? This is to be put to test.... Hahaha
Oppa feeding style
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50615 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-08 08:01:41
April 08 2019 08:01 GMT
#43
On April 08 2019 15:51 weiliem wrote:
Lol group D, champions of the past vs champions of current era. Has the current champions really taken over the scene? This is to be put to test.... Hahaha


yes, thats why they're the current champions.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1713 Posts
April 10 2019 01:51 GMT
#44
wow!!! crazy group D
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
ArcadePlus
Profile Joined March 2012
United States44 Posts
April 10 2019 03:01 GMT
#45
Pulling hard for my boy ForGG but I think the cosmos are aligned against him. I've been watching his stream and I think he 2facts against protoss probably.... every game lol? He usually wins with it but that kind of practice isn't going to help you if Mini KNOWS it's coming. And I don't think this map pool is especially good for 2fact anyway.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
April 10 2019 04:43 GMT
#46
All I want is for JD to make it through.

Grah what a sick group. Hopefully Stork's pvp doesn't screw us. Rain vs Last rematch would be great.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
April 11 2019 19:16 GMT
#47
Anyone know the starting maps and how the subsequent ones are decided?
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 12 2019 02:52 GMT
#48
I'm curious about what you guys think about the format for the KSL. From what I can gather, they play double-elim in the group stages bo5, and then bo7 in the semis and finals.I think this is a fantastic format - even if it was bo3 in the group stages I would've been happy.

Whereas in the ASL, they play double-elim bo1 in the group stages and then bo5 for the playoffs. I'm curious why they don't play at least bo3 in the group stages for the ASL??
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2396 Posts
April 12 2019 03:49 GMT
#49
Stork PvP
The original Bogus fan.
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
April 12 2019 03:58 GMT
#50
On April 12 2019 11:52 Azzur wrote:
I'm curious about what you guys think about the format for the KSL. From what I can gather, they play double-elim in the group stages bo5, and then bo7 in the semis and finals.I think this is a fantastic format - even if it was bo3 in the group stages I would've been happy.

Whereas in the ASL, they play double-elim bo1 in the group stages and then bo5 for the playoffs. I'm curious why they don't play at least bo3 in the group stages for the ASL??


I think running time and player stamina would probably be a key issue there. If they did Bo3s you'd need 10-15 games to decide a group and that means you'd have to split it into multiple nights like KSL - expecting somebody to play potentially up to 9 games of a matchup like TvT or TvZ would have diminishing returns on the quality of the games due to player fatigue. However, it would be harder to split up because KSL has the nice even system of AvB/CvD one night, Winners and Losers another and then 2x final bo5 on another night. If you try to start splitting up Bo3s you'd end up with a bit of an uneven schedule. You could do 3 bo3s in one night, then 2 on another or something maybe. I agree though that the bo1 format can be frustrating when you see a better player knocked out or have a very short night of dull games

I wouldn't mind seeing a compromise group stage where only the winners and final games as bo3s while the rest were bo1s. It would mean the much weaker players would be eliminated quickly and you wouldn't have to sit through a very one sided series while at the same time make it a bit harder for the good players to be eliminated by cheese plays designed to win bo1s.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 12 2019 05:04 GMT
#51
On April 12 2019 12:58 Wonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2019 11:52 Azzur wrote:
I'm curious about what you guys think about the format for the KSL. From what I can gather, they play double-elim in the group stages bo5, and then bo7 in the semis and finals.I think this is a fantastic format - even if it was bo3 in the group stages I would've been happy.

Whereas in the ASL, they play double-elim bo1 in the group stages and then bo5 for the playoffs. I'm curious why they don't play at least bo3 in the group stages for the ASL??


I think running time and player stamina would probably be a key issue there. If they did Bo3s you'd need 10-15 games to decide a group and that means you'd have to split it into multiple nights like KSL - expecting somebody to play potentially up to 9 games of a matchup like TvT or TvZ would have diminishing returns on the quality of the games due to player fatigue. However, it would be harder to split up because KSL has the nice even system of AvB/CvD one night, Winners and Losers another and then 2x final bo5 on another night. If you try to start splitting up Bo3s you'd end up with a bit of an uneven schedule. You could do 3 bo3s in one night, then 2 on another or something maybe. I agree though that the bo1 format can be frustrating when you see a better player knocked out or have a very short night of dull games

I wouldn't mind seeing a compromise group stage where only the winners and final games as bo3s while the rest were bo1s. It would mean the much weaker players would be eliminated quickly and you wouldn't have to sit through a very one sided series while at the same time make it a bit harder for the good players to be eliminated by cheese plays designed to win bo1s.

Yeah, I'm not suggesting that they finish the group all in one night. Something like what KSL is doing or even if they hold multiple groups in one night.

Thus, it could be AvB/CvD from Group1 & Group2 in night one, and then winners/losers for both groups in another night.

The deciders for all Groups1-4 can be all done in a night.

The main point in my opinion is that I feel that bo1 group stage is not ideal.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 12 2019 07:39 GMT
#52
was this group selection ? is that a joke ? xD
group d could be the top4 xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50615 Posts
April 12 2019 07:43 GMT
#53
On April 12 2019 16:39 Drake wrote:
was this group selection ? is that a joke ? xD
group d could be the top4 xD


its star studded for sure, but jaedong and stork making top 4 is a stretch.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
April 12 2019 08:31 GMT
#54
On April 12 2019 16:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2019 16:39 Drake wrote:
was this group selection ? is that a joke ? xD
group d could be the top4 xD


its star studded for sure, but jaedong and stork making top 4 is a stretch.


shhh, i've spoken to my uncle at blizzard and he says they've already decided the trophy is going to JD, this is all part of a master plan that culminates in the announcement of sc3
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50615 Posts
April 12 2019 08:33 GMT
#55
your argument is wonky at best there.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4233 Posts
April 12 2019 08:58 GMT
#56
On April 12 2019 11:52 Azzur wrote:
I'm curious about what you guys think about the format for the KSL. From what I can gather, they play double-elim in the group stages bo5, and then bo7 in the semis and finals.I think this is a fantastic format - even if it was bo3 in the group stages I would've been happy.

Whereas in the ASL, they play double-elim bo1 in the group stages and then bo5 for the playoffs. I'm curious why they don't play at least bo3 in the group stages for the ASL??

KSL has a way better format. Maybe a bo5 is a bit of a stretch, bo3 would suffice I think, but it's for sure better than a bo1. I wish ASL had the old OSL format for groups and then a bo5 for every game of play-offs, except for the finals which should be a bo7.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50615 Posts
April 12 2019 12:42 GMT
#57
Bo5 is appropriate for BW, maps are a pain to prepare for, especially when its loser's pick like it is in KSL, theres a reason why Afreeca does the things it does and its not just tradition.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 12 2019 14:54 GMT
#58
Can't get excited enough for Group D. FlaSh still not participating, it's been long, hope his wrists are OK. I mean, if Last and JD can qualify, why can't the God himself.
sunbeams are never made like me...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50615 Posts
April 12 2019 16:40 GMT
#59
he registered for qualifiers and no-showed
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
InmateNextdoor
Profile Joined November 2017
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-13 04:20:46
April 13 2019 04:15 GMT
#60
Poll: Who will be the KSL season 3 champion?

JD (3)
 
21%

Last (2)
 
14%

Sharp (2)
 
14%

Rain (2)
 
14%

Mini (1)
 
7%

Soulkey (1)
 
7%

Snow (1)
 
7%

Forgg (1)
 
7%

Zero (1)
 
7%

Best (0)
 
0%

Shine (0)
 
0%

Stork (0)
 
0%

Action (0)
 
0%

MisO (0)
 
0%

Ample (0)
 
0%

Modesty (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Who will be the KSL season 3 champion?

(Vote): Last
(Vote): Sharp
(Vote): Mini
(Vote): Rain
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Best
(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Shine
(Vote): JD
(Vote): Stork
(Vote): Action
(Vote): Forgg
(Vote): MisO
(Vote): Ample
(Vote): Zero
(Vote): Modesty


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