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Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 19:27:39
March 11 2019 22:41 GMT
#21
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10258 Posts
March 11 2019 23:09 GMT
#22
*ferociously devours popcorn*

Ok Pauline you did your part get off the stage. CUE EONZERG NEXT!

Ty2 has learned well from me.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 11 2019 23:42 GMT
#23
Pretty decent list Ty2. Last is back on the upswing and has been showing his championship form so I'm excited to see what he'll do in the finals. Mini too has shown fantastic PvZs this ASL so we'll have to wait and see what his PvT is like in the finals. EffOrt's form seems to wax and wane like in the past though that could also be partially due to Mini's good prep this ASL so taking #3 spot is understandable. I would've put Sharp above Rain personally since the guy has a winning record against Rain (Sharp has gone 7-4 in offline since ASL5) and he's also looking to be in good form.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 12 2019 01:04 GMT
#24
On March 12 2019 04:18 Waxangel wrote:
Good list, but Serral is too low


You guys should tone down your korean bias, Serral is not even in the top 10!

The list is fair, not sure Mini should be #2 as he only played PvZ; Effort lost the direct confrontation but still seems a stronger player.
Horang2 didn't really impress me, he had the easiest groupstage and was steamrolled by Rain in the playoffs; I don't think he would figure on my power ranking.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
March 12 2019 03:13 GMT
#25
Thanks for the list Ty2!

Only change I’d make is putting sharp a spot higher. He did go 2-3 vs last and that series could have gone ether way. I agree that sharp needs to work on his TvZ if he wants to get to the top though.

Also, a top ten without Flash Jaedong Bisu or Stork! What a time we live in
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 12 2019 03:30 GMT
#26
i have a really hard time believing any sober person on this site thinks last is even arguably the best player in the world right now. Hes good, but his wrist is fragile, and apart from that, no, hes just clearly not the best. I havent agreed with the philosophy behind the pr in a long time, seems like its nothing more than listing out how well people have recently done in a literal sense when simply looking at premier tournaments. I dont see how that really reflects power in any meaningful way. If this were a skill ranking-- which is what the power ranking was meant to be -- then last would not be first, mini would not be 2nd.
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
March 12 2019 04:58 GMT
#27
On March 12 2019 12:30 Dazed. wrote:
i have a really hard time believing any sober person on this site thinks last is even arguably the best player in the world right now. Hes good, but his wrist is fragile, and apart from that, no, hes just clearly not the best. I havent agreed with the philosophy behind the pr in a long time, seems like its nothing more than listing out how well people have recently done in a literal sense when simply looking at premier tournaments. I dont see how that really reflects power in any meaningful way. If this were a skill ranking-- which is what the power ranking was meant to be -- then last would not be first, mini would not be 2nd.


How can we effectively measure skill? And isn't skill a core, fundamental attribute; a monthly power ranking reflects current state more than talent and fundamental attributes. It is monthly, anyway.
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danielias
Profile Joined August 2012
Chile67 Posts
March 12 2019 05:31 GMT
#28
On March 12 2019 07:35 razorsuKe wrote:
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Lol. So what? You want a detailed ranking that requires weeks to write for free? I just found that professional people, look for SOLUTIONS, and if you like criticizing why make it public?

"Praise in Public, Criticize in Private "
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-12 06:33:17
March 12 2019 06:30 GMT
#29
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-12 06:54:04
March 12 2019 06:52 GMT
#30
On March 12 2019 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Thanks for the list Ty2!

Only change I’d make is putting sharp a spot higher. He did go 2-3 vs last and that series could have gone ether way. I agree that sharp needs to work on his TvZ if he wants to get to the top though.

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. Rain macros good in PvT and that's about it, get Sharp up in that top 4 (top 3? :O) where he belongs. He's been doing well in lots of recent tournaments, and getting just barely eliminated by the current final contender is hardly a slight.
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MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-12 07:38:16
March 12 2019 07:32 GMT
#31
thanks for the PR ty2, but I don't understand, why you put soulkey only on six. His exit in the Ro16 was due to one bad gamble in the decider match. apart from that many predicted him to win this season. his play is super strong an very consistent!

Mini has a quite entertaining play style in the early game, quite aggressive. but his overall play is very wanky and inconsistent. I still can't believe how he beat effort. I enjoyed how he did it, but he is absolutely not #2 for me, based on only one tournament run. (I understand there are not many tournaments to look at, but for me it's not just the results, but the overall stability of play.)

PS: The nerves!!
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-12 09:39:12
March 12 2019 09:31 GMT
#32
Edit: Removing heavy criticism, will just say that ranking was formulated by only taking ASL7 into account. I expect the knowledge in an article to surpass what I know, in this instance, it didn't.
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Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
March 12 2019 10:48 GMT
#33
Maybe this was mentioned, but: (Rain) "He was also lucky enough to avoid any Zergs in the ASL7, but he can't ignore his Achilles heel forever." -> he humiliated Larva in the group stage...
DevilDriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany77 Posts
March 12 2019 11:11 GMT
#34
Thanks for writing the list, funny how much it has changed since last year. I was very surprised by Calm this season, but I think he might fall pretty soon. Would love to see more of him, though.
I think I would have placed Mini lower, but I don't know where exactly. He definitely shows some strong performances, but he really doesn't seem to me like the #2 BW player right now. Also I feel like, he kinda got a good match up with Effort in the Semifinals.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1660 Posts
March 12 2019 12:02 GMT
#35
I am shocked when I read that EffOrt is bad at defending, this guy literally stomp any protoss not making any sunk going full hydra for the entire game all relying on mind game and micro and apparently he is bad at defending when the fact is that it is because he defends so well that he can play like this.
Now you try to play like he does and let me know if you don't need to be good at defending. No other zerg would dare doing this against a good player. Considering that you are not the worst foreign player, it is kind of disappointing from you, and while I am at it? wth is "mediocre mentality"? what?

Every single win from EffOrt is in the most fashion way against the toughest opponent, what is so mediocre about that? Did he have a mediocre mentality when he won asl6? Surely mentality isn't something you can change in a couple of months? Please extrapolate? I don't like people shitting on good player with such a poor judgement, therefore bad writing indeed.
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TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway385 Posts
March 12 2019 12:49 GMT
#36
Love reading the PR, and we should be glad there is one. Thx for putting it together
However... there will always be arguments for individual sports..

IMO the top5 is "ok", but I disagree with the decision of ranking effort #3. He should at least be #2. So what he lost to Mini? His skill level and game-sense did not drop. It was a 2-3 and as close as it gets. He then goes on to demolish Rain in the most humiliating faction, and I'm not trying to diss the games (or Rain), but it was a clear 3-0. This is only worth 3rd spot? The ASL finals have not been played yet either. What if Last 3-0's Mini? I agree that Last is on top this round, but EffOrt. You have to respect his history, winning an ASL, (and over Flash no less!)
Some final small notes:
Horang2 does not belong in this PR..
Larva or Best should be in - because they are amazing^^
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10258 Posts
March 12 2019 15:10 GMT
#37
FYI: This is TY2s second PR, first one in his official take over. Let him figure out his own style of writing and how he wants to place. Just at least be constructive when you want to criticize him. He is far more patient than I am, but that means you need to give him your patience as well. The amount of ad hominem attacks is ridiculous.
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[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
427 Posts
March 12 2019 15:53 GMT
#38
fun read, especially the comments. please keep your attitude, guys.
Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway637 Posts
March 12 2019 16:43 GMT
#39
haha, ain't no PR without pauline and/or eonzerg whining and wailing

I'm honestly not sure to which extent I'd agree completely with the list, but I think it's a pretty good PR all in all. Very enjoyable for its purpose! :D

Honestly, you guys should start putting effort far down the list as a running gag, very much like Matt Damon being invited to the Jimmy Kimmel show (even though that was ofc fake and stuff). And then the community can laugh and have fun as pauline and eon rage
It's ok. I still love you <3
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
March 12 2019 17:07 GMT
#40
On March 12 2019 05:25 Proko wrote:
I just wanna give props to Larva for predicting Mini's and Last's performance. That should get him ranked.

He just does that every time to try and make himself look good. For example, I could argue against the ASL preview predictions in every thread. Every time the underdog won it would make me look really good and the majority of people would look stupid. I think Larva just does that for attention.
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