EPTThe Central Audio Commentary Thread - Page 8
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Sr18
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Hans-Titan
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Knickknack
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Last Romantic
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On June 18 2007 06:59 chicken` wrote: 56 mins of pure awesomeness i love you so much although reach and his constant swarm of fanbois around him suck t,t what's wrong with us? ;X | ||
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FusionCutter
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chicken`
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you're overdoing it!  | ||
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404.Nintu
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Klaz
Ireland334 Posts
Odin vs Flash Proleague June 20 Part 1 of 3 Odin vs Flash Proleague June 20 Part 2 of 3 Odin vs Flash Proleague June 20 Part 3 of 3 Also I will be casting Hwaisin vs Bisu today | ||
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Ftrunkz
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Klaz
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Game 1 - Desperado Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Will add in the links to the rest of the games as I finish syncing them and get them uploaded. | ||
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Chef
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Sosha
United States749 Posts
Game 1 between Bisu and Hwasin was definately GG. It was close as Hwasin was making that 1st strong push into Bisu's natural.. That was prolly his best bet at a victory push. We'll see how he does in the other games  Gj, thx, omg <3 | ||
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Klaz
Ireland334 Posts
Game 2 Part 2/2 Bisu vs Hwasin - Game 3 Game 4 currently uploading and game 5 currently rendering | ||
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ii.blitzkrieg
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Klaz
Ireland334 Posts
Please note of caution b4 watching above game. All bisu fans will hate me forever. You have been warned! | ||
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Klaz
Ireland334 Posts
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Sosha
United States749 Posts
Boo hoo! It was caused by good timing on Bisu's part, using his probe to get real close to Hwasin's scv on barrack and by the supply and at the same time that the scv was building the barrack close to the supply, it over-lapped Bisu's probe and then bisu was attacking either barrak or supply and told his probe to 'stop' which caused them to jumble outward.. much like they do on Monty Hall and when they're trying to get passed the mineral blocks.. So it was nothing 'unfair' it was nothing BS about it.. Bisu simply used a tactic that every player uses, even Terrans. It is just chalked up to his skill that he was able to do that, and since it was part of the game and that Bisu didn't use any kind of hack to do that w/ his probe.. no it's not going to be an 'illegal move'. How many times has scvs wandered str8 through units at a Protoss base, after leaving the main Protoss base for a time, then Protoss using 2 zeals or a goon to sufficiently block the ramp, only to have a SCV come back in after it was gone for a long period of time.. I hear it's called a "gas trick" in which the SCV is able to wander back in, through the unit-wall on ramp and able to scout the Protoss base again. I've had it happen to me.. I had units on ramp, totally blocking ramp and the Terran, I knew, didn't have any vision into my base, but his SCv still scampered right passed the ramp and into my main again. Everyone does it and there are ways for every race to do it. Just because Bisu did it in game 3 and spoiled Hwasins MM rush doesnt take anything away from Bisu or either players skill or intelligence. Hwasin should have adapted rather than go all-in and T's lucky they can even wall their ramp in most maps anyway, because Protoss cannont. Again, <3 you, the person.. but I don't think it's fair to talk down on Bisu for doing something small and trivial as that.. Instead of placing the blame on Bisu for doing the probe-jump, u coulda just easily said that Hwasin shoulda just double expo'd w/ MM for cover or w/e.. I'm sure Hwasin knew 1-2 ways to deal w/ the situation of being found out and still play on in the game, but he chose to go all in and fail at it.. It was his decision. Anywho.. GG's so far.. On to game 4 ^ ^ he deserved to lose game 4 because of the tactic he chose to use. He didn't deserve to lose game 4 because of his "lame, cheating, cheese" tactic in game 3 =[ Get w/ it, Klaz  | ||
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Klaz
Ireland334 Posts
sorry if i upset you, i guess i just felt really bad for hwaisin. i do feel that the probe jump in that match up is different to the jump on maps like monty hall. Hwaisin thought he did everything to block that ramp, and he really did, the fact that bisu got through was freaky (though not lucky). I just didn't like the fact that the game was decided entirely by something so dodgy. I mean if bisu hadn't been able to get in and antcipated that something was up because of the block or if Bisu had been taken by surprise and still survived and won I woulda gained a huge amount of respect for him. I just felt that move ruined the game, and was annoyed because it could have been a better game but for that move. So I guess in game 4 I just released my frustration. ANyway that was my opinion and I'm sorry if I offended you | ||
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Sr18
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404.Nintu
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As for the Bisu vs Hwaisin game.. I have to agree with Klaz. Hwaisin made every possible move he could make to block that ramp completely. I cannot think of a single thing he could have done better to block. I think it spoiled the game in the sense that it was decided at that exact moment, from that sketchy little break in. I'm not experienced enough to know how much skill it took on Bisu's part to do, or how much luck was involved, but I sure would have enjoyed seeing the surprise MnM rush in full effect and watch Bisu defend from it. In that sense, I felt like it spoiled the game, but perhaps still Bisu deserves full credit for the win. | ||
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