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exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
May 29 2007 04:42 GMT
#1
After viewing the commentaries on YouTube, I'd like to contribute a few of my own. I think superiorwolf is good, but I would like to cater my VODs to the medium level player looking for the reasoning behind strategical decisions. (therefore no commentary about why the Terran walls in TvP)

I don't know the software needed to start doing these, so I would like help with this. Also, I would like recommendations for VODs to commentate on (preferably a TvP or TvZ) (and where I can get the videos)!

Thanks - I want to get to this ASAP!
too easy
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 29 2007 04:58 GMT
#2
"I created VOD commentaries using the programs Camtasia and VirtualDub, and currently use Audacity and Windows Movie Maker in order to record over Korean VODs." -superiorwolf

;D!!
Hates Fun🤔
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
May 29 2007 05:29 GMT
#3
VOD commentary by exalted would be awesome
he knows a lot about the game
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
May 29 2007 05:34 GMT
#4
Whoa, deja vu.

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=54066
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 29 2007 06:01 GMT
#5
I'm in support of this. Some advice I learned from AfterBurn (who used to be a commentator for TSN and was training me to do the same):

- Always keep talking. You never want dead air, ever. Dead air is bad. It's okay to have dramatic pauses which you can use to collect your thoughts, though. If there's nothing really happening, you can talk about the players, the league format, previous games on the same map, what's at stake, there's really no end to what you can talk about.
- Some babbling is okay but be careful about repeating yourself. One common mistake casters make is they'll say "the zealots of Kim Dong Soo" "the dragoons of Kim Dong Soo" "the probes of Kim Dong Soo" etc.
- Don't constantly mention units by their full names. While it's somewhat okay to say "Ultralisk" when you could shorten it to "Ultra", don't say "Zerg Ultralisk" please. This is my own personal input because AfterBurn used to do this and it drove me nuts. "And there goes the Protoss Probe of Kim Dong Soo!"
- Another hard part is commenting on what is actually happening during a battle. You have to be able to notice and react to little things the players are doing. "You can see how Kim Dong Soo is targeting the center of those Zealots with his Reaver for maximum splash damage, great play!" is a good thing to say.
- When battles heat up, intensify your voice. Part of the magic of commentators is they have the ability to amplify the effect of what's happening on the screen. If a huge battle is happening and you're not enthused, most of that magic is lost.
- Periodically take the time to identify strategic changes and adaptations the players are making. Something like "Kim Dong Soo's Dragoon numbers are slipping, it seems he's saving up resources to switch to Carriers".
- Excitement is top priority. You can provide insightful commentary but it must never replace the excitement factor. I don't know if I personally agree with this but for the average person it's better to have Um Jae Kyung talking than Kim Dong Soo.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-29 06:15:29
May 29 2007 06:05 GMT
#6
Man i miss the commentary/rep combos. I used to get excited downloading them and learning what was "actually" going on. I think mani's deep man voice destroyed my sub
Bodom_Night
Profile Joined April 2007
United States33 Posts
May 29 2007 06:37 GMT
#7
yea im new to starcraft and was wondering if there was any of these and if there was any place that has them and posts them?
jjl
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States85 Posts
May 29 2007 08:15 GMT
#8
I think the English commentary we've seen so far is lacking in the number of commentators each match. It's hard to get more people to do it, but I noticed that there's no "dead air" in the Korean videos because when they speak, they speak as if they're talking to each other, not the viewer. So it feels more like a conversation (an exciting conversation)
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
May 29 2007 08:18 GMT
#9
so we should have group commentary. o i c.
555, kthxbai
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
May 29 2007 08:22 GMT
#10
If you have nothing to say, make that weird throat sound the Korean commentators do.. even though apparently they do it for a reason.
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
May 29 2007 08:26 GMT
#11
On May 29 2007 17:15 jjl wrote:
I think the English commentary we've seen so far is lacking in the number of commentators each match. It's hard to get more people to do it, but I noticed that there's no "dead air" in the Korean videos because when they speak, they speak as if they're talking to each other, not the viewer. So it feels more like a conversation (an exciting conversation)

Thats why the Day/Nony commentaries for Bisu vs Savior were pure win.
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
May 29 2007 09:23 GMT
#12
Please include much swearing in your commentaries, it makes it funnier. Cheers.
"Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbour as you love yourself. If you do these things you're doing well" - Phil Joel
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-29 09:51:20
May 29 2007 09:49 GMT
#13
mmm I'd definitely go with replays, not vods. Or fpvod+replay. And like you said, "commentaries" where we're just told extremely basic information or even just what's going on are pretty lame. I'd like to hear more insight on the reasons behind desicions, predictions, build matchups, positional advantage, and suggestions for how the game could be played better.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
May 29 2007 09:54 GMT
#14
exalted, you will need these things:

Microphone
Audacity (for recording audio)
and a VOD to watch while recording.

Then combine them with with WMM.


If you want to commentate on replays, you must use Camtasia Studio
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
May 29 2007 10:39 GMT
#15
On May 29 2007 13:42 exalted wrote:
After viewing the commentaries on YouTube, I'd like to contribute a few of my own. I think superiorwolf is good, but I would like to cater my VODs to the medium level player looking for the reasoning behind strategical decisions. (therefore no commentary about why the Terran walls in TvP)

I don't know the software needed to start doing these, so I would like help with this. Also, I would like recommendations for VODs to commentate on (preferably a TvP or TvZ) (and where I can get the videos)!

Thanks - I want to get to this ASAP!


Do you have a sexy/manly voice? I want to hear the English Mantoss
^-^
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
May 29 2007 10:55 GMT
#16
He'd have to play protss not terran then
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
May 29 2007 11:15 GMT
#17
We should all linkup overskype and do a double or tripple commentating action!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
May 29 2007 11:34 GMT
#18
On May 29 2007 20:15 XCetron wrote:
We should all linkup overskype and do a double or tripple commentating action!

I've been preaching this for a while. I think theres just been a lack of initiative to get it running/figuring out timings. Please do one, even if it's noobtacular it would still be cool to hear a few tlnetters hammering on about a rep
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 29 2007 11:46 GMT
#19
FINALLY I TOO WILL DEFEAT REKRUL
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
May 29 2007 12:08 GMT
#20
yea! link up and do commentary. i'm down with that.
555, kthxbai
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