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zerglingling
Profile Joined April 2018
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-25 00:00:47
November 25 2018 00:00 GMT
#21
On November 25 2018 08:54 oshibori_probe wrote:
We should learn from the mistakes of roadkill and not make it too easy for zerg.


Since when was Roadkill easy for zerg?
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2934 Posts
November 25 2018 00:03 GMT
#22
On November 25 2018 09:00 zerglingling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2018 08:54 oshibori_probe wrote:
We should learn from the mistakes of roadkill and not make it too easy for zerg.


Since when was Roadkill easy for zerg?

Since the day it was made.
Fuck KeSPA.
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1530 Posts
November 25 2018 00:34 GMT
#23
Your individual ladder experience is probably not very indicative. Especially I don't see how the nats are in any way particularly susceptible to Mutalisk harassment, as you seem to imply. They don't even have any cliffs behind the mineral lines to shield Mutas from Turret vision and I cannot remember any games that would suggest that Mutas are particularly strong on the map.

The statistics for ZvT on Roadkill in the KSL are pretty even numerically, but all the Zerg victories so far have stemmed from weird all-ins and map-specific one-time strategies, all the straight forward games went to Terran and I have never seen a Zerg beat a Terran on stream either. So the map is probably rather T>Z imbalanced.
On the other hand ZvP statistics are at something like 7:0 right now, but again many of these are due to stuff like fast ling run-bys or Zerg (particularly Jaedong) just completely outplaying Protoss, so again the number do not seem to make a representative statement about balance.
If there is in deed a T>Z and/or Z>P tendency on that map I am not even entirely sure why. It might be be that rush distances are ever so slightly shorter than on most maps. That in conjunction with the low ground mains might explain why Zerg are struggling to defend a third against Terran or why Protoss have difficulty stopping early lings.
zerglingling
Profile Joined April 2018
131 Posts
November 25 2018 17:16 GMT
#24
On November 25 2018 09:34 Freakling wrote:
If there is in deed a T>Z and/or Z>P tendency on that map I am not even entirely sure why.

It couldn't possibly be the lack of a decent third gas, now would it?
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1530 Posts
November 26 2018 10:28 GMT
#25
On November 26 2018 02:16 zerglingling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2018 09:34 Freakling wrote:
If there is in deed a T>Z and/or Z>P tendency on that map I am not even entirely sure why.

It couldn't possibly be the lack of a decent third gas, now would it?

What's wrong about taking the close corner base?
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