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Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
October 02 2018 07:29 GMT
#41
He took an advantage from his position as TL staff. He knew about the announcement beforehand. I'm not happy about it, but I hope ladder reset will equal the chances more or less.
iRk-AGge
Profile Joined October 2017
Sweden400 Posts
October 02 2018 08:11 GMT
#42
Okey so everything looks set for a ladder reset, but when are blizzard going to announce it? I saw this morning that the ladder standings was removed and the old standings was shown instead. Just feels so weird that there havent been a developer update or anything about it.

The countdown timer on the BSL webbsite says 31 days left, but nowhere on the front page does it say "starts in 10hours", so maybe that's the confusion, for those lazy asses who havent read the whole rule section! xD

Anyways, looking forward to the start of BSL today! <3 HYPE IS REAL!

arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
October 02 2018 08:16 GMT
#43
On October 02 2018 15:52 kogeT wrote:
What do you mean by "Asia server"? Matchmaking is global so you'll anyway play 99% of games vs non-koreans.


I won't. That's exactly the purpose of using VPN and what most of us are doing to play koreans in Korea server to practice.
750/750 emotions fully stacked
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
October 02 2018 08:22 GMT
#44
On October 02 2018 17:16 arew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2018 15:52 kogeT wrote:
What do you mean by "Asia server"? Matchmaking is global so you'll anyway play 99% of games vs non-koreans.


I won't. That's exactly the purpose of using VPN and what most of us are doing to play koreans in Korea server to practice.


Oh so you just mean using VPN, server doesn't matter for that. Unless you mean China?
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 08:34:58
October 02 2018 08:27 GMT
#45
Actually about 30%+ of my games without VPN are vs Kors, it's a bit weird because i get TR16 vs them whereas when i face a European i always get at least TR20/TR24 (TR24 mostly). It's odd because if a Korean and European player search at the same time i'll always end up hitting the Kor player over the EU player (obviously only when there's no other NA player Q'ing, which surprisingly happens very frequently).

For some reason Blizz's matchmaking algorithm prioritizes Koreans over Europeans for NA players, i live in the East coast so i dunno about West coasters. It's not that i don't like playing vs Kors, i do but a lot of the time they end up cheesing u because the games are TR16.. which becomes tiresome after a while. Out of 100 games ill hit a EU player maybe 1 or 2 times, would be nice to see that number go up a bit.

But at the end of the day i can just play vs EU players via VPN if i wanted to (for something like the BSL) so it's not a huge deal. That said i wonder how this will affect the final rankings because i'm pretty sure EU players are gonna be ranking each other up (and they have a way bigger player pool) whereas NA players are gonna be hitting Koreans way more frequently.
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2762 Posts
October 02 2018 08:27 GMT
#46
He probably uses a VPN to Korea and logs in to Asia server, although login into Asia server doesn't make a difference, the VPN makes all the difference.
zaMNal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Mongolia385 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 09:20:38
October 02 2018 09:19 GMT
#47
Dear 2Pacalypse-, dear ZZZero,
can you please PM me on how you were able to acquire sponsorship from Blizzard? Whom at Blizzard can I contact on this matter? Thank you. I've also sent you a PM.
elKa-ThE-FeArEd
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden177 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 11:16:47
October 02 2018 11:14 GMT
#48
iirc Artosis really wanted to play last season, maybe you should let foreigners in korea play in this?
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland746 Posts
October 02 2018 11:20 GMT
#49
Yeh I think foreigners who live in Korea should be allowed. They even have a disadvantage because korean ladder is harder.
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ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 12:20:46
October 02 2018 12:20 GMT
#50
Hello,

Of course foreigners who are living in Korea will be allowed to play. Like Artosis, Rapid, CadenZie,...
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arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
October 02 2018 12:47 GMT
#51
On October 02 2018 17:27 TT1 wrote:
Actually about 30%+ of my games without VPN are vs Kors, it's a bit weird because i get TR16 vs them whereas when i face a European i always get at least TR20/TR24 (TR24 mostly). It's odd because if a Korean and European player search at the same time i'll always end up hitting the Kor player over the EU player (obviously only when there's no other NA player Q'ing, which surprisingly happens very frequently).

For some reason Blizz's matchmaking algorithm prioritizes Koreans over Europeans for NA players, i live in the East coast so i dunno about West coasters. It's not that i don't like playing vs Kors, i do but a lot of the time they end up cheesing u because the games are TR16.. which becomes tiresome after a while. Out of 100 games ill hit a EU player maybe 1 or 2 times, would be nice to see that number go up a bit.

But at the end of the day i can just play vs EU players via VPN if i wanted to (for something like the BSL) so it's not a huge deal. That said i wonder how this will affect the final rankings because i'm pretty sure EU players are gonna be ranking each other up (and they have a way bigger player pool) whereas NA players are gonna be hitting Koreans way more frequently.


Yeah, that's actually really weird but I believe good practice wise?

As for BSL, I think playing on Korean/Asian server (what I plan to do) is a better advantage since you have shorter queue time which equals to more games you can play in shorter amount of time (we have 1 month). In EU server once you reach 2k MMR it might get quite hard sometimes to find a game fast enough, without waiting 5++ minutes. Even if you do find a game you might end up playing playing someone 300 MMR less than you and receiving something like 2points per victory which is not so fun. Of course, when BSL comes to action, hopefully even more people will be playing and it might not be an issue anymore! Ayyy!
750/750 emotions fully stacked
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
October 02 2018 14:25 GMT
#52
On October 02 2018 21:47 arew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2018 17:27 TT1 wrote:
Actually about 30%+ of my games without VPN are vs Kors, it's a bit weird because i get TR16 vs them whereas when i face a European i always get at least TR20/TR24 (TR24 mostly). It's odd because if a Korean and European player search at the same time i'll always end up hitting the Kor player over the EU player (obviously only when there's no other NA player Q'ing, which surprisingly happens very frequently).

For some reason Blizz's matchmaking algorithm prioritizes Koreans over Europeans for NA players, i live in the East coast so i dunno about West coasters. It's not that i don't like playing vs Kors, i do but a lot of the time they end up cheesing u because the games are TR16.. which becomes tiresome after a while. Out of 100 games ill hit a EU player maybe 1 or 2 times, would be nice to see that number go up a bit.

But at the end of the day i can just play vs EU players via VPN if i wanted to (for something like the BSL) so it's not a huge deal. That said i wonder how this will affect the final rankings because i'm pretty sure EU players are gonna be ranking each other up (and they have a way bigger player pool) whereas NA players are gonna be hitting Koreans way more frequently.


Yeah, that's actually really weird but I believe good practice wise?

As for BSL, I think playing on Korean/Asian server (what I plan to do) is a better advantage since you have shorter queue time which equals to more games you can play in shorter amount of time (we have 1 month). In EU server once you reach 2k MMR it might get quite hard sometimes to find a game fast enough, without waiting 5++ minutes. Even if you do find a game you might end up playing playing someone 300 MMR less than you and receiving something like 2points per victory which is not so fun. Of course, when BSL comes to action, hopefully even more people will be playing and it might not be an issue anymore! Ayyy!


It's not great practice when you're playing vs early game allins most of the time (with lag), ideally it would be cool if the matchmaking prioritized NA vs EU matchups more often (the player pool expands and the latency is actually playable). If i really wanted to play vs Kors i could just do so on a VPN, it takes 2 secs to run it.

That said i'm not sure what they're gonna do with the matchmaking system once they release the 2v2 ladder. Playing games with 2 foreigners vs 2 koreans is impossible right now and i don't think the EU + NA player base is big enough to support a 2v2 ladder. Anyways i'm getting ahead of myself, that's a diff matter to discuss further down the line :D.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 02 2018 15:18 GMT
#53
Any plans to make it offline in the future? :D
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Jaeyun
Profile Joined June 2017
United States202 Posts
October 02 2018 17:41 GMT
#54
My matchmaking on NA west coast is 75% Koreans and 25% NA without VPN. I don't think I ever ran into anyone from EU, probably ever. Might be due to the proximity of west coast to Korea or something?

Either way, hyped for BSL. Thanks ZZZero and all who are helping to coordinate!
www.twitch.tv/jaeyun
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 18:38:11
October 02 2018 18:33 GMT
#55
On October 02 2018 05:30 Hatchet_man wrote:
Answering some popular questions regarding region lock:

Show nested quote +
Player1 is allowed to participate in BSL right? He lives in london but is korean
just as Player2 he's also korean but living in germany
Player3 tho is korean living in korea so he wont be allowed in ... right?

Show nested quote +
Are you guys going to allow proxying to the korean server?

We will check residency based on country data provided by your bnet accounts (the flags next to your nicknames).
For every account with KR flag we will ask you to confirm your residency. So Players 1 and 2 can advance to the main stage, and Player3 can't.
Same rule applies to the proxying. We can't stop you from doing this, and won't ban you from the tournament if system thinks you're Korean while you aren't Korean.


are chinese players eligible to play?
Broodwar for life!
Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
October 02 2018 19:17 GMT
#56
Any player outside of Korea, so yes, Chinese players are eligible to play. But don't they have separate bnet server?
Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 22:03:00
October 02 2018 22:01 GMT
#57
We have an announcement in-game
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But user profiles show this:
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Seems like ladder season still didn't change. Probably need to wait some more
Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
October 02 2018 22:13 GMT
#58
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OK. GO-GO-GO now!
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1618 Posts
October 02 2018 22:53 GMT
#59

GOOD LUCK EVERYONE !
Remember:
TOP 20 — PROLEAGUE.
TOP21–84 — CHOBOLEAGUE.
Better position in ladder stage will give you advantage during maps vetos.

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Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
October 03 2018 02:04 GMT
#60
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