Thanks for the amazing level of response! Teams should be finalized in the next few days and coaches will be getting in touch with their players!
Hello Team Liquid!
Last year, a wildly successful league for new players was run by our very own L_Master, Jealous, and LazerSnipe. The Coach Pupil League paired teams of new players with dedicated coaches to compete in a several month league aimed at player improvement. As a participant last year who thoroughly enjoyed my experience, I want to revive the idea and return with Season 2!
I intend to run a 3-5 month league for players who feel like they are stagnant at the lower end of the ladder or who feel like they cannot compete in any of the current tournaments or events. The exact format will depend on the level of response and active participants, but I fully intend for this to be a team style league much like last season. You can read more about S1 here: Coach-Pupil League
What I want from this thread is a roll call of who would be interested in participating. I need to know how many players/coaches/admins to expect. Once I have a good gauge of numbers I’ll release a full set of rules and format. There has already been a lot of good discussion on this topic after the close of last league and I intend to use much of the feedback from this thread for season 2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/525469-coach-pupil-league-2-discussion You should sign up as a player if you: Feel like you can't improve Would benefit from a mid-high level player giving advice Don’t feel able to compete in any tournaments (even lower level tourneys like the Rookie TeamLeague)
You should sign up as a coach if you: Have a good level of knowledge about the game and want to share it with others Want to give back to the community and see foreign Broodwar grow.
You should sign up as an admin if you: Have a skillset that will be helpful (Liquipedia, casting, graphics, etc.) Want to participate in a community organized event Support the idea of the CPL Note: Players and coaches are encouraged to apply for admin tasks as well
I do not want to set a hard MMR divide between the players and coaches as it's such a new benchmark. I'm hoping it will be fairly obvious what you should be signing up for. If you wish to be a player but the general skill level of the league is well below yours then you will be promoted to coach status. Please do not sign up as a player if you are obviously able to compete in current tournaments.
Edit: Seems like a lot of people consider themselves in the middle between coach and and player. If you are willing to do either role and are just waiting to what skill level signs up please specify as some of you have been. If you are only willing to be a coach or player and will not participate if you find yourself on the wrong side of the skill division please specify. A note on participation: I appreciate that for many of us we have full time jobs and other life commitments that take precedence over Starcraft. At a minimum I expect this season to run for three months, although if we get a lot of teams it may run longer. Please only sign up if you have an intention of interacting with your team outside of the weekly scheduled match. Remember that you will get out of the CPL what you put into the CPL.
If you are interested, please post to the thread with the following information:
Edit If you haven't already, PLEASE JOIN THE DISCORD https://discord.gg/BJWDeBg I've gotten enough response that I know the major format of the league. Some of the specifics such as date/time and exact team numbers will be worked out next week as I get in contact with everyone. Expect a poll for some items in the future.
Format Round robin team tournament. Each week teams will cycle through their opponents and play five bo3 matches on the same three map set (map pool TBD). Teams will consist of a single or pair of coaches, an A team (roughly 1600-1900 MMR) and a B team (roughly 0-1600 MMR). Every match will consist of three B-team series and two A-team series. The league will consist of two full rounds of round-robin where each team will play every other team twice. At the completion of the league there will be a brief period of playoffs, exact format TBD.
Rules 1. Absolutely no BM or harassment. This is a educational and fun league that all players benefit from. If you cannot play nice, you will be removed. Good natured shit talk is acceptable, but don't push it into BM territory. 2. Games can be pre-played if you and your opponent can coordinate an acceptable time. Otherwise all games must be played at the specified time/date (TBD). 3. One player or coach is responsible for reporting game results, providing replays, and providing the next week's lineup every week. 4. Substitutions are allowed provided that the subs are playing the same race as submitted in the lineup and are in the appropriate team (A or B team). 5. A-team players are expected to assist with coaching of B-team players.
Coach/Player : Could be either depending on league skill Battlenet Name: Infarction/LMaster Battlenet Server:West TimeZone: GMT - 7:00 (MDT) MMR: Approx 1700-1800 Race: Admin Role (optional): assistant as needed
This is tentative. It leagues like this league will take place more towards summer when I may have more time. If I don't think I can commit to being relatively consistent I'll let you know.
Coach/Player: Could be either, depending on league skill level Battlenet Name: lazersnipe Battlenet Server: West TimeZone: GMT - 7:00 (MDT) (pretty flexible schedule though) MMR: Probably 1700-1800? Race: Admin Role (optional): We've discussed a fair bit already, so as you know willing to help run it/help out wherever we need it.
Thanks again for working on this, hopefully we can get this going!
Coach/Player Player Battlenet Name:ArtOfTurtle (AOT[eMg]) Battlenet Server:West TimeZone: PST MMR:1600-1800 Race: Admin Role (optional):I can help out on the discord and collect results
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: HaN#2261 Battlenet Server: Europe TimeZone: CET MMR: 1800-1900 Race: Zerg About me: I believe I'm a very good apprentice material. I only started playing 1v1s since SC:R (~600+ games). Before that I have always only played 2v2s (B on iccup) and 3v3s, so my mechanisms aren't bad but my 1v1 knowledge is almost non existent.
Coach / Player : Player Bnet Name : Telecom[WHITE] Bnet Server : Korea TimeZone : EST MMR: 1900-2000 Race : Protoss Admin role : Meme's / emotional support for admins
Coach/Player : Could be either depending on league skill, would prefer assistant coach Battlenet Name: DarkMatter/ d.m. / Gato Battlenet Server: West TimeZone: GMT - 5:00 (EDT) MMR: Approx 1800 Race: Terran Admin Role (optional): wherever u need me bb
Apparently the CPL from last year was not the first iteration of the idea so I edited the OP for historical accuracy. I've also amended the section about what position to sign up for. If you're willing to be a player or a coach depending on where the skill level division falls, please say so as many of you have been doing. If you are only willing to play or coach, please specify in your sign up.
Coach/Player: Either depending on the skill of the league skill Battlenet Name: Arya[eMg] Battlenet Server: US East or West TimeZone: CST MMR: 1800ish Race:Terran
Coach/Player : Player Battlenet Name: iNs.ArmadA, Probezz, F10eQQ Battlenet Server: West TimeZone: EDT MMR: 1800 - 1900 Race: Protoss Admin Role (optional): Liquipedia or w/e needs the most attention
Coach/Player : Player Battlenet Name: JorDaddy Battlenet Server: West TimeZone: EDT MMR: 2000-2300 Race: Protoss Admin Role (optional): Liquipedia or w/e needs the most attention
Really cool idea! Looking forward to this. Unfortunately I don't have a ton of options for availability, but I'm definitely interested if the timing works out.
Coach/Player Player Battlenet Name: _Khrane#1345 Battlenet Server: US East TimeZone: EST MMR:1600 Race: P
Player Battlenet Name: Chessz#1771 Battlenet Server: US East TimeZone: EST for now, PST long term MMR: 1400-1500 Race: Zerg Admin Role (optional): I have a nice stream set up and I also enjoy casting.
Coach/Player: Both, but mostly Player Battlenet Name: Kanzaki_Ranko Battlenet Server: West, East, Korea TimeZone: EST MMR: 1340~1700 Race: Terran Admin Role (optional): Caster/Commentator
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name:bigfatpat#1218 Battlenet Server:US West TimeZone: PST MMR:1350-1500 Race:
I know I won't win. I only started playing since December. I am, however, really looking forward to someone being able to help me with my game. I will work hard to do the best I can to make it as far as I can and to make whomever coaches me proud :-).
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: jinjin#1744 Battlenet Server: NA TimeZone: PST MMR: 1700-1800 Race: Terran Admin Role (optional): None, but i am familiar with korean.
Started playing since june but finding myself in need of help and stagnating
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: Red.QuaD Battlenet Server: EU TimeZone: GMT(UTC)+3:00 (MSK) MMR: Approx 1000-1200 Race: Zerg Admin Role (optional): could help a bit if needed, have some expirience
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: Navane Battlenet Server: EU TimeZone: CET MMR: 1450-1550 Race: Admin Role (optional): Liquipedia. Shirts. Manage google sheets. Depending on the schedule I might do some casting/obsing.
I would really love to hear from you guys how old are you and how much time can you dedicate to StarCraft. I could mb pick up a young eager player and introduce him some ideas. :D
Coach/Player: Coach Battlenet Name: Battlenet Server: EU TimeZone: CET MMR: 2600 Race: T / Z
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: JayLitt#11925 Battlenet Server: Asia TimeZone: JST MMR: Probably around 1100-1200, haven't laddered much Race: None so far. Trying to random as much as possible.
I love the level of response! It looks like with the numbers of coaches and players signing up that I can go forward with the preferred format, full details to come. In the meantime please join the new discord that will be used for planning and coordination: https://discord.gg/BJWDeBg
Please continue to sign up and tell your friends. I don't have an exact day sign ups will end, but at the rate that people are responding it may not be much more than another week!
Coach/Player: coach Battlenet Name: (just pm me, i don't know it off the top of my head) Battlenet Server: KR, USW, USE TimeZone: CNT MMR: don't play remastered ladder, but i was C on fish Race: Zerg, but realistically i think i could help new terran and protoss players too
really like the idea of this tourny, looking forward to hearing more
Coach/Player: admin Battlenet Name: awerti Battlenet Server: Europe, US West TimeZone: GMT +1 MMR: 1600 Race: P Admin Role (optional): yes. I could help with organizing, the Liquipedia page, whatever is needed.
On March 22 2018 07:47 JorDaddy wrote: Coach/Player : Player Battlenet Name: JorDaddy Battlenet Server: West TimeZone: EDT MMR: 2000-2300 Race: Protoss Admin Role (optional): Liquipedia or w/e needs the most attention
On March 22 2018 07:47 JorDaddy wrote: Coach/Player : Player Battlenet Name: JorDaddy Battlenet Server: West TimeZone: EDT MMR: 2000-2300 Race: Protoss Admin Role (optional): Liquipedia or w/e needs the most attention
On March 23 2018 10:08 SynC[gm] wrote: Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: RedAxis Battlenet Server: East & West TimeZone: CST MMR: I dunno what this is... Race:
Sign ups have gotten to the point where it's clear we can move forward with a two-tiered league. Each team will have two levels of competition roughly split between 0-1500 MMR and 1500-1800 MMR. For those who are on the edge of these divisions, decisions will be made on a case by case basis. While I want to keep the league as competitive as possible, education is the primary goal so some of you will be facing much stronger opponents every so often. If a player is determined to be placed incorrectly they will be moved to the appropriate tier within the first few weeks of the league.
The expectation is that higher level players will assist with the coaching of the lower level players in their team. Our coaches have graciously volunteered their time and effort to help all of you players and I want to keep the load on them as light as possible. Teaching is one of the best ways to learn and I hope that all players will take every opportunity they can to improve during the duration of the league.
I've edited the OP to include the following rules and format information:
Format Round robin team tournament. Each week teams will cycle through their opponents and play five bo3 matches on the same three map set (map pool TBD). Teams will consist of a single or pair of coaches, an A team (roughly 1500-1800 MMR) and a B team (roughly 0-1500 MMR). Every match will consist of three B-team series and two A-team series. The league will consist of two full rounds of round-robin where each team will play every other team twice. At the completion of the league there will be a brief period of playoffs, exact format TBD.
Rules 1. Absolutely no BM or harassment. This is a educational and fun league that all players benefit from. If you cannot play nice, you will be removed. Good natured shit talk is acceptable, but don't push it into BM territory. If there are any issues please alert an admin. 2. Games can be pre-played if you and your opponent can coordinate an acceptable time. Otherwise all games must be played at the specified time/date (TBD). 3. One player or coach is responsible for reporting game results, providing replays, and providing the next week's lineup every week. 4. Substitutions are allowed provided that the subs are playing the same race as submitted in the lineup and are in the appropriate team (A or B team). 5. A-team players are expected to assist with coaching of B-team players.
Coach/Player: Player if I can, no time to be coach Battlenet Name: Chego[NaS] Battlenet Server: USEast/USWest TimeZone: EST MMR: 1800? I haven't played BW since December... Race: Terran
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: CabalCrow#2500 ('View' in the game) Battlenet Server: Europe TimeZone: UTC+2 MMR: ~1500 (I do not own remaster starcraft, I just have been told I'm around this skill level) Race: Terran
Coach/Player: If the MMR is anything higher than 2k for player, then just a player. If the MMR is lower, then I can try to coach as well. Battlenet Name: TL.FlaShFTW Server: USWest TimeZone: PST MMR: 1800-1900 Race: Terran/Protoss Admin Role: Caster
Sign ups have gotten to the point where it's clear we can move forward with a two-tiered league. Each team will have two levels of competition roughly split between 0-1500 MMR and 1500-1800 MMR. For those who are on the edge of these divisions, decisions will be made on a case by case basis. While I want to keep the league as competitive as possible, education is the primary goal so some of you will be facing much stronger opponents every so often. If a player is determined to be placed incorrectly they will be moved to the appropriate tier within the first few weeks of the league.
The expectation is that higher level players will assist with the coaching of the lower level players in their team. Our coaches have graciously volunteered their time and effort to help all of you players and I want to keep the load on them as light as possible. Teaching is one of the best ways to learn and I hope that all players will take every opportunity they can to improve during the duration of the league.
I've edited the OP to include the following rules and format information:
Format Round robin team tournament. Each week teams will cycle through their opponents and play five bo3 matches on the same three map set (map pool TBD). Teams will consist of a single or pair of coaches, an A team (roughly 1500-1800 MMR) and a B team (roughly 0-1500 MMR). Every match will consist of three B-team series and two A-team series. The league will consist of two full rounds of round-robin where each team will play every other team twice. At the completion of the league there will be a brief period of playoffs, exact format TBD.
Rules 1. Absolutely no BM or harassment. This is a educational and fun league that all players benefit from. If you cannot play nice, you will be removed. Good natured shit talk is acceptable, but don't push it into BM territory. If there are any issues please alert an admin. 2. Games can be pre-played if you and your opponent can coordinate an acceptable time. Otherwise all games must be played at the specified time/date (TBD). 3. One player or coach is responsible for reporting game results, providing replays, and providing the next week's lineup every week. 4. Substitutions are allowed provided that the subs are playing the same race as submitted in the lineup and are in the appropriate team (A or B team). 5. A-team players are expected to assist with coaching of B-team players.
Pisan, what if I wanted to be a coach ... #1 would have to be revised a little... ^.^
Routa: If a player misreprents their skill level too much they'll be moved appropriately. Hirmu should be fine as a player in this league.
Flash: You should be good to play in the A-teams. You'll be able to coach B-teamers.
Sugo: #1 won't change, but I'd love to have you back for a cast or to give a lesson sometime. Feel free to apply as a coach if you can be nice to your players.
Battlenet Name: TA.Scaramanga Battlenet Server: Shield Battery TimeZone: AEST MMR: default Race: T (Random) Admin Role (optional): I'd love to play but its really difficult to get games sorted with timezone differences, I'd happy to fill in as needed as CPL is a lot of fun
Coach/Player: Player if I can, no time to be coach Battlenet Name: LuMiX Battlenet Server: USEast/USWest TimeZone: EST MMR: 1800? I haven't played BW since December... Race: Terran
Player Lemonylime #2458 Europe GMT (UK) MMR: N/A very new to the game, still practicing single player. Terrified of the thought of losing 20 games in a row on ladder. Race: Not 100% sure, but feeling terran Admin: I have no skills (sorry)
Just looking for some beginners coaching and to get more involved in the BW community. Very new and young (original SC is older than I am). If any players are the same situation add me for some terrible games too
Player Battlenet Name: SirDubadoof Battlenet Server: West TimeZone: Central U.S. MMR: 0 (No ladder matches have been played up to this point.) Race: Zerg
C/P : Player B.Net Name : Paper.Mario B.Net Server : US.West and US.Asia (more players in Asia usually) (SAME ACCOUNT NAME IN BOTH) TimeZone : Mountain Time MST MMR : 1220-1300 Race : Zerg
Player Battlenet Name: Düsterwesen#2448 Battlenet Server: Europe TimeZone: CET (although my waking time usually aligns better with Eastern US than with Europe) MMR: ~1200 Race: Mostly Protoss, but I'd like to learn the other races
On March 23 2018 10:08 SynC[gm] wrote: Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: RedAxis Battlenet Server: East & West TimeZone: CST MMR: I dunno what this is... Race:
Coach/Player :player Battlenet Name:bnet vik7#1537 (vikseven) Battlenet Server: US West TimeZone: PST after 7pm weekends MMR: it says 1400 but I'm far worse (1000 probs), will rank to make more accurate Race: Random Admin Role (optional):
Coach/Player layer Battlenet Name:MagicTurtle#161278 Battlenet Server: US East TimeZone: EST Semi available on weekends.quite a few weeknights work MMR:Havent played in a while was around 1400 a while ago Race: Protoss Admin Role (optional): Caster/ admin help if needed
Player Battlenet Name: JodyHighRoller/JodyHighRoller7 (JodyHiRoller #11519) Battlenet Server: US EAST/US WEST TimeZone: MDT/PST MMR:1350-1450 Race: Zerg Admin Role (optional):
I'd love to use this as a springboard into broodwar, have watched allot of ASL's but only ever played SC2.
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: IdrA#21533 Battlenet Server: Korea TimeZone: KST (available any day after 18:00 hrs ) MMR: I'm completely new to sc1 no idea what my MMR would be, Im Diamond in SC2 if thats any use. Race: Zerg or maybe Terran
I eddited my race to maybe Terran instead of Zerg. BW races feels a bit different.
On March 27 2018 21:45 SoShiSC2 wrote: I'd love to use this as a springboard into broodwar, have watched allot of ASL's but only ever played SC2.
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: IdrA#21533 Battlenet Server: Korea TimeZone: KST (available any day after 18:00 hrs ) MMR: I'm completely new to sc1 no idea what my MMR would be, Im Diamond in SC2 if thats any use. Race: Zerg
Player Battlenet Name: Yogzototh 2344 Battlenet Server: Europe TimeZone: GMT+3, can in the evening on weekdays, at variable times on weekends MMR: 1450-1600, depending on matchup Race: Terran only
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: 1nept#11322 Battlenet Server: US West TimeZone: GMT -6 MMR: ~1600 but this was months ago and I haven't played at all Race: Protoss
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: wishbones Battlenet Server: West TimeZone: Eastern Time (US & Canada) MMR: Not Sure Yet (was offline a while and ranked at 1800) Race: Protoss Admin Role (optional): This I can try to be helpful at however. If there are any small tasks that need help on.
Sorry about the post, ill update this and if im too late so be it. I am still undecided/unsure about the commitment in terms of playing actively.
Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: IamINTP#1783 Battlenet Server: US-East TimeZone: EST MMR: beginner (what's the lowest?) Race: Random Admin Role (optional):
On March 28 2018 16:56 Medicated wrote: Coach/Player: Player Battlenet Name: IamINTP#1783 Battlenet Server: US-East TimeZone: EST MMR: beginner (what's the lowest?) Race: Random Admin Role (optional):
I will be finalizing teams with the current coaches over the next couple of days. Expect a thread in the Tourneys forum with full ruleset and team assignments. Players, your coaches will be reaching out to you once teams have been assigned. If you have not yet joined the discord, please do as that is the easiest way to coordinate with your team and others!
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