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Blizzard's Response: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760966718?page=9#post-166
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 10:42:04
January 26 2018 10:22 GMT
#361
On January 26 2018 14:04 FlaShFTW wrote:
The post literally says nothing. It's just a red herring for us to go chase after while they provide no REAL update on the situation. Typical PR move with no substance behind it.


Typical of companies employing "community managers", people with no power whose only job is to tranquilize the community by means including employing a smug holier-than-thou attitude to anyone critical of the ones holding their leash. He even managed to belittle the CEO of Afreeca acting like he has no idea what he's talking about.

Meanwhile the people with real power don't ever have to face or learn from the community because they think being spoonfed sycophantic pre-chewed feedback from the "community managers" is all they need.

I feel managed alright.
Tyrant.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 18:30:09
January 26 2018 10:55 GMT
#362
On January 26 2018 19:22 Jae Zedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 14:04 FlaShFTW wrote:
The post literally says nothing. It's just a red herring for us to go chase after while they provide no REAL update on the situation. Typical PR move with no substance behind it.


Typical of companies employing "community managers", people with no power whose only job is to tranquilize the community by means including employing a smug holier-than-thou attitude to anyone critical of the ones holding their leash. He even managed to belittle the CEO of Afreeca acting like he has no idea what he's talking about.

Meanwhile the people with real power don't ever have to face or learn from the community because they think being spoonfed sycophantic pre-chewed feedback from the "community managers" is all they need.

I feel managed alright.


Things only keep getting worse it seems.

Where are the defenders now? Where is that aQuasc2 kid who kept coming here just to defend the poor multi-billion dollar corporation every time they did something incontrovertibly stupid? Oh right, he's not here because he never gave a shit about this game, he was just a Blizzard drone.

At this point the mental gymnastics required not to hate Blizzard would be so complex my brain wouldn't be able to perform them even if I wanted to.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 12:17:43
January 26 2018 12:03 GMT
#363
“uh... we don't even know if that's really an official afreeca statemt. Sure we work great together with them.“

Sounds like a pr lie to me.

Some posts in this thread make me legitimately wonder, if paid influencers are posting here though.
Broodwar for life!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33224 Posts
January 26 2018 12:18 GMT
#364
the post hasn't been deleted tho, so shrug

probably cause you can't access it unless you set your main afreeca settings to Korean from English
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 26 2018 12:25 GMT
#365
On January 26 2018 21:18 Waxangel wrote:
the post hasn't been deleted tho, so shrug

probably cause you can't access it unless you set your main afreeca settings to Korean from English


You're saying blizzard's community guy didn't even manage to access afreeca correctly to find that post?

Wtf.
Broodwar for life!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 26 2018 13:56 GMT
#366
Where is jimmyjraynor and his "uncle mike"?
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
January 26 2018 14:36 GMT
#367
On January 26 2018 21:18 Waxangel wrote:
the post hasn't been deleted tho, so shrug

probably cause you can't access it unless you set your main afreeca settings to Korean from English


Ergh... LOL. *Bashes head against desk repeatedly*
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3672 Posts
January 26 2018 14:49 GMT
#368
Oh dear. Maybe one day Blizzard will file for bankruptcy and someone decent will buy the Starcraft license. Poor Brood War. It seems Blizzard hates SC 1 about as much as Microsoft hates Windows Xp.
MrUniverse
Profile Joined January 2018
6 Posts
January 26 2018 15:27 GMT
#369
On January 26 2018 21:03 Cele wrote:
“uh... we don't even know if that's really an official afreeca statemt. Sure we work great together with them.“

Sounds like a pr lie to me.

Some posts in this thread make me legitimately wonder, if paid influencers are posting here though.


If we were to be skeptical, when SC2 first got released, there were massive influx of new people here on TL that spent an awful amount of time rapidly defending Blizzard when SC1 fans try to point out the upside of BW's features/mechanics.

It wouldn't surprise me if some of them are paid influencer.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 15:41:16
January 26 2018 15:40 GMT
#370
On January 27 2018 00:27 MrUniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 21:03 Cele wrote:
“uh... we don't even know if that's really an official afreeca statemt. Sure we work great together with them.“

Sounds like a pr lie to me.

Some posts in this thread make me legitimately wonder, if paid influencers are posting here though.


If we were to be skeptical, when SC2 first got released, there were massive influx of new people here on TL that spent an awful amount of time rapidly defending Blizzard when SC1 fans try to point out the upside of BW's features/mechanics.

It wouldn't surprise me if some of them are paid influencer.


Nah it's not even astroturfing, just petty tribalism from nerds who are too attached to their hobby in an unhealthy way. That cesspit of a "forum" NeoGAF is the same way, just people who blindly and desperately lick whatever drips from the crevice of their corporate overlords, and when someone calls them out on the fact that maybe some of the things that game companies do might not be in the benefit of the consumer or the industry, they double down and say "please, sir, may I have some more" while flaming all dissenters.

If there's anything giving gamers a bad name, this SHOULD be near the top of the list in an ideal world: fanatical corporate apologism.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
January 26 2018 19:01 GMT
#371
Nice that we got some response at least, but yeah it certainly doesn't say much. I hope they would answer this person's post on the bnet forums:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760966718?page=10#post-182

I too would like to know what Blizzard's involvement even is with the ASL.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
January 26 2018 19:44 GMT
#372
On January 27 2018 04:01 Starlightsun wrote:
Nice that we got some response at least, but yeah it certainly doesn't say much. I hope they would answer this person's post on the bnet forums:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760966718?page=10#post-182

I too would like to know what Blizzard's involvement even is with the ASL.

The answer is probably, Blizzard provides nothing, but has some demands (like fees, Remastered has to be used, Blizzard logo has to be shown).
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
1030xxx
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia62 Posts
January 27 2018 13:03 GMT
#373
Why not using 1.16.1 to host ASL 5, just give up using the remaster version.
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States599 Posts
January 27 2018 13:13 GMT
#374
On January 27 2018 22:03 1030xxx wrote:
Why not using 1.16.1 to host ASL 5, just give up using the remaster version.


How would that change anything? 1.16.1 or Remastered makes no difference to Blizzard.

As long as Blizzard own the copyrights and trademarks to all things StarCraft, then Blizzard can exert control over any & all StarCraft events at their discretion, even 1.16.1 events.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 27 2018 13:27 GMT
#375
On January 26 2018 14:04 FlaShFTW wrote:
The post literally says nothing. It's just a red herring for us to go chase after while they provide no REAL update on the situation. Typical PR move with no substance behind it.


It's not even worth mentioning.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
January 27 2018 14:23 GMT
#376
On January 27 2018 22:13 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 22:03 1030xxx wrote:
Why not using 1.16.1 to host ASL 5, just give up using the remaster version.


How would that change anything? 1.16.1 or Remastered makes no difference to Blizzard.

As long as Blizzard own the copyrights and trademarks to all things StarCraft, then Blizzard can exert control over any & all StarCraft events at their discretion, even 1.16.1 events.

can you tell me what law is that o_@@
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 27 2018 16:58 GMT
#377
Can't ASL still run now?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States692 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-31 08:04:29
January 27 2018 18:45 GMT
#378
sometimes it really sucks to be a fan of a company's copyright
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
January 27 2018 18:50 GMT
#379
On January 27 2018 23:23 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 22:13 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On January 27 2018 22:03 1030xxx wrote:
Why not using 1.16.1 to host ASL 5, just give up using the remaster version.


How would that change anything? 1.16.1 or Remastered makes no difference to Blizzard.

As long as Blizzard own the copyrights and trademarks to all things StarCraft, then Blizzard can exert control over any & all StarCraft events at their discretion, even 1.16.1 events.

can you tell me what law is that o_@@


If you Google "intellectual property" that should give you a better idea.
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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
January 27 2018 22:23 GMT
#380
For all the lawyers in this thread, can you host offline tournaments without needing Blizzard's permission if no money is involved?

And if so, what would the most likely result be if you hosted such a tournament and followed it up with a meaningless 100m dash that coincidentally has the same winner line-up as the starcraft tournament, and with a substantial prize pool?
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