• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:36
CET 21:36
KST 05:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA17
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2107 users

StarCraft 1.21.0 patch - Page 8

Forum Index > BW General
146 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 All
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
December 13 2017 17:37 GMT
#141
On December 13 2017 22:09 bovienchien wrote:
Which maps does Terran get high win rate?

I tried to train this game, but my mmr is just about 1550, I am not able to reach mmr 1600+, so sad.

From the available ladder map pool, Fighting Spirit is the best for Terran.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
December 13 2017 19:31 GMT
#142
On December 14 2017 02:37 Cryoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 22:09 bovienchien wrote:
Which maps does Terran get high win rate?

I tried to train this game, but my mmr is just about 1550, I am not able to reach mmr 1600+, so sad.

From the available ladder map pool, Fighting Spirit is the best for Terran.


Is there a reason for this? From my perspective, any map where a 3rd with a gas is easier to take is harder for me. I know that on 2 gas vs. 2 gas, my opponent might have to produce more lings, static D, or zealots, whereas I can produce Vultures and get so much more out of them than Z/P counterparts.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 19:42:12
December 13 2017 19:40 GMT
#143
well I think in pvt the biggest most easily exploitable advantage of T is if they can secure getting to 200/200 and then get a good/excellent trade and maybe win, so on FS the very defendable 3rd is rather a good advantage for terran, nothing imba but seriously if you do manage to get to 200/200 with good macro, make no huge mistake in rolling out on map and reprod proper behind it, that's kind of harder for P user to deal with than for you to do I would say haha not saying FS is imba I like it, it's nice to play on different maps though one of frustration as P vs T is that you can rarely really attack a T, but it depends on the map
for example on Python, the very wide middle allows P to defend vs 200/200 better, and you can also prevent the T from taking a early third much more easily. On the other hand you also have different vulnerability etc, but overall python is a little bit more on P side for PvT I guess, again nothing imba
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
December 13 2017 19:44 GMT
#144
On December 13 2017 22:09 bovienchien wrote:
Which maps does Terran get high win rate?

I tried to train this game, but my mmr is just about 1550, I am not able to reach mmr 1600+, so sad.


If I'm being 100% honest with you winrates really don't affect matchups other than the very, very top level.

I'm only at 1700 MMR still myself and I can tell you the vast majority of games I lose I lose to bad focus/macro.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 15 2017 05:12 GMT
#145
EVERRY GAME ON BNET IS PROXY TRASH I JXSUST WANT TO PLAY 1 DECCENT GAME OF BGH
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
December 15 2017 07:49 GMT
#146
On December 15 2017 14:12 batsnacks wrote:
EVERRY GAME ON BNET IS PROXY TRASH I JXSUST WANT TO PLAY 1 DECCENT GAME OF BGH

Did you open up your ports?
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 15 2017 08:05 GMT
#147
On December 08 2017 08:20 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2017 08:04 Jealous wrote:
Just updated in USA.

Seems pretty sweet. I like the fact that they make a lot of their more controversial changes like CCMU and hotkey-modification optional, even if most people don't care.

Can someone explain the EUD thing, please?

Ccmu isn't a controversial change lol.
I don't even see why they included the option of original ccmu limits.To keep the dozen people who still play 3v3 fastest MM happy? Impressive dedication.

Fastest was still pretty popular in the Asia/Korea server from what I last remember. Probably on par with hunters
Writerptrk
Prev 1 6 7 8 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#31
RotterdaM1449
SteadfastSC305
IndyStarCraft 283
kabyraGe 191
BRAT_OK 113
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1449
SteadfastSC 305
IndyStarCraft 283
BRAT_OK 113
UpATreeSC 68
JuggernautJason68
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18292
Calm 2662
Dewaltoss 120
firebathero 119
Backho 55
NaDa 13
Dota 2
qojqva3402
League of Legends
rGuardiaN28
Counter-Strike
fl0m5523
pashabiceps869
zeus660
allub231
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu384
Other Games
Grubby5499
FrodaN2620
Beastyqt827
ArmadaUGS162
C9.Mang0115
Mew2King106
Sick75
Trikslyr73
QueenE72
KnowMe58
ZombieGrub15
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream259
Other Games
Algost 3
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 16
• FirePhoenix14
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3095
League of Legends
• Doublelift1776
• TFBlade1071
Other Games
• imaqtpie1080
• WagamamaTV374
• Shiphtur264
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 24m
Wardi Open
15h 24m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Wardi Open
1d 15h
OSC
1d 16h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.