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REDBLUEGREEN
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Qikz
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Falling
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On December 09 2017 01:20 Falling wrote: Okay Anticreativity. As far as I can tell, you've signed up on TL for the express purpose of arguing in this thread. You've now said your piece many times over. Time to drop it and move on to the rest of TL- we don't need a pitbull with lockjaw in this topic. I totally agree with everything except the lockjaw, pit bull jaws don't lock, they function the same as other breeds. It's a myth that's been proven false. #free pit bulls | ||
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Falling
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Starlightsun
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On December 08 2017 16:24 craz3d wrote: Does not being impressed by certain actions mean that one is mad about it? Of course not. But his body language and tone of voice seemed mad. However being exhausted can also account for it. Anyway it's not important, just like the foot incident. | ||
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Anticreativity
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Okay Anticreativity. As far as I can tell, you've signed up on TL for the express purpose of arguing in this thread. You've now said your piece many times over. Time to drop it and move on to the rest of TL- we don't need a pitbull with lockjaw in this topic. Ugh, please stop perpetuating this idea that I've said my piece "many times over" or that I'm being stubborn in my argument. I literally have only made my initial argument and then proceeded to defend myself against trolling accusations the whole rest of the time. I'm not going to "drop" someone equating my disagreement with trolling. I don't know how I can make this any clearer than I already have. This looks to me as though you find it confusing because it was obvious to you that he was mad/upset. And that his claiming to never have been mad is a cop out. Essentially that he's being dishonest, since anyone watch could see he was mad. Do I understand you correctly here? That your experience is that Geoff was mad, and now he's trying to hide the fact? Yes, pretty much. But when I say "confusing" I'm referring to the fact that he attempts to excuse himself for things he later claims to not be guilty of. Why explain how long your day was and how tired you were if not to excuse your poor mood that you later claim to not be subject to? For the rest of the post, it seems as though your main point is that Geoff should be more honest with himself and let things go. And honestly, I think you mean well here. Being honest with yourself and others is good. And owning up to your mistakes is even better. So as I understand here, you want Geoff to own up to his mistake, take it like a man and then we can all just move on? I might be missing the mark here, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong That's exactly right. I personally think he was upset and that it's fairly obvious. It was obvious to me, who has followed the community and Geoff's participation in it for 7 years, and it was obvious to my gf who's completely unfamiliar with Geoff and who watched the event with me. I don't blame him or anyone else watching for being upset at Larva, I don't care that he was trolling Larva in the interview, I feel that he acted perfectly within reason despite the fact that I personally enjoyed what Larva did. The only thing I take issue with is that I feel like his post was dishonest and therefore patronizing to the community. It just read like someone engaging in a self-serving form of damage control with the audience's agreement being a foregone conclusion. That's the reason I made the post on reddit and that's the reason I posted it here when I realized that I had come to the reddit thread much too late to get any kind of response, whether it be from Geoff or anyone else willing to challenge or validate what I said. I just wanted to be the guy to say "hey, I don't really buy this, what do you guys think?" That's why I posted it here after the reddit thread and why I've been so adamant about defending myself against the trolling accusations. All I wanted to do was have that discussion and was never given the opportunity because I've spent the entire time here trying to convince everyone of my perfectly reasonable intention: to have a discussion on a discussion forum. User was warned for ignoring moderator request. | ||
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iNcontroL
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Just move on man. What WOULD you accept anyways? Someone going "yeah he was mad. I agree with you. I don't like that he excused himself as being tired but then denies he acted... mad" or something? OK some people said as much! Happy? No? Why? If you aren't a troll you are just a really really stubborn person who has the incredibly common internet problem of wanting affirmation for their post while not accepting that it may be incorrect or dumb. The drama is over anyways man. Wait until the next time a bunch of people are mad at me and you can jump back in and question my motives.. it'll be next year when I start up my talk show with Artosis. Plenty of opportunities there mate. | ||
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Qikz
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On December 09 2017 04:57 iNcontroL wrote: nah. You are ignoring all of the responses and lumping them in with "defending that I am not a troll" which is comical because it's exactly what you accuse me of.. you think my argument is 1 dimensional and generic then do that to the handful of people who are trying to engage an admittedly incredibly shallow conversation starter of "geoff is being dishonest does anyone agree with me?" (lol) Just move on man. What WOULD you accept anyways? Someone going "yeah he was mad. I agree with you. I don't like that he excused himself as being tired but then denies he acted... mad" or something? OK some people said as much! Happy? No? Why? If you aren't a troll you are just a really really stubborn person who has the incredibly common internet problem of wanting affirmation for their post while not accepting that it may be incorrect or dumb. The drama is over anyways man. Wait until the next time a bunch of people are mad at me and you can jump back in and question my motives.. it'll be next year when I start up my talk show with Artosis. Plenty of opportunities there mate. Personal request for a funny segment, can you get all the funny clips of artosis getting mad on stream and question him about it?  | ||
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Anticreativity
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aiwekas
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Dazed.
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On December 09 2017 06:32 aiwekas wrote: Why are you posting about that in this thread? No good players flamed anyone...and why should top players, established community members etc, not be given preference over some no name? And how is that racist??? i have to say only 1 TL admins dont respect all ppl when good players bm in TL they dont have any warning or ban + when non know user say something wrong in 1min warning or ban ! why ? did u racist guys ?or what ? | ||
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aiwekas
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Seeker
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On December 09 2017 06:19 Anticreativity wrote: TFW the author of a thread is addressing you directly and it's literally against the rules for you to respond. lol If you want to respond to iNcontroL then go right ahead. We won't penalize you for responding to him. I will personally moderate this thread myself. However, don't be surprised if iNcontroL doesn't even bother responding back. It seems pretty clear to me and to mostly everyone else here that iNcontroL knows best how iNcontroL was feeling that day. And he has no obligations whatsoever to respond to people who are trying to tell him otherwise. But, seeing as how you posted this: Ugh, please stop perpetuating this idea that I've said my piece "many times over" or that I'm being stubborn in my argument. I literally have only made my initial argument and then proceeded to defend myself against trolling accusations the whole rest of the time. I'm not going to "drop" someone equating my disagreement with trolling. I don't know how I can make this any clearer than I already have. Fair enough. Get it all out then. Say all that's on your mind. We are giving you the chance you want to say what you really feel like you need to say. So take it. | ||
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A.Alm
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ppp87
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FlaShFTW
United States10211 Posts
On December 09 2017 06:19 Anticreativity wrote: TFW the author of a thread is addressing you directly and it's literally against the rules for you to respond. lol you're on a short leash. lets not push it. reread our commandments. | ||
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superjoppe
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mishimaBeef
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Eleonora
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On December 09 2017 04:57 iNcontroL wrote: What WOULD you accept anyways? Someone going "yeah he was mad. I agree with you. I don't like that he excused himself as being tired but then denies he acted... mad" or something? OK some people said as much! Happy? No? Why? If you aren't a troll you are just a really really stubborn person who has the incredibly common internet problem of wanting affirmation for their post while not accepting that it may be incorrect or dumb. I'm going to explain because apparently there's something you don't want to understand. This person (AntiCreative), since he has known you for a while and apparently likes you, has a certain view regarding who you "are" and how you behave (it's not a crime although it might be annoying). And he has been disappointed to see what he considers dishonnesty (or coping out) in your statement regarding your state of mind during the Bo5 and afterwards. Now, i had moved on from this "drama" (logically), but seeing the thread is still active (...), allow me to point out that i made the same remark page 1 (which you didn't adress). On December 05 2017 05:06 Eleonora wrote: I'm not sure people care that much about what you did overall in the cast. I personnally enjoyed all the jabs you were throwing at Artosis regarding the easyness of playing Terran, but what people, i believe, didn't get, is why you had to act as such a "party popper" once Larva started trolling. As early as game 1 you weren't "having it" (as you said), that's your right, but why exactly ? You would have preferred the boredom of a 3 - 0 stomp with nothing to talk about ? I do agree with you that people totally overreact about your supposed state of "madness" during the event, but in any case, you tried over and over to break the fun the others had, and it's hard to really understand why. If you know anything about Larva, you know that the guy doesn't take himself seriously and does that kind of stuff in a cheeky/joyful way, not as a mean to humiliate someone he dislikes. Very simple explanation as to why people thought you were mad afterwards... the rest of what you did during the cast is a non-issue here. And i'm pretty sure that if you did (yeah sorry "oh he didn't answer my post that was important", actually not that much but i'm seeing the same conversation 7 pages later so...), this would have... sorted part of the "issue" some people seem to have with your behavior (i almost don't, except for what i'm about to say). There is a small number of people who simply feel that you didn't even mention your actual displeasement (let's not even the word "mad" which is just a stupid troll word) during the games in your statement. Which is why some (whether it's AntiCreative or MethodMan page 3 or whoever) now say "just admit it and stop bullshitting us". Unlike the majority here, i almost don't know you and i liked most of what i've seen "from" you, i can safely say i'm pretty neutral in this case. But as a neutral, don't even try to tell me you weren't displeased during the games. Just don't. From the very beginning with the drone breakdancing to the final GG in game 3, you acted like super annoyed constantly. You were litteraly sitting next to people saying stuff like "He is a beautiful human being" "I'm so glad Larva is here", "I love it" (in response to your comment "bit of a jerk, right ?) and acted like a party popper over and over and over. Which you are allowed to do, but gives kind of a weird feeling for someone watching. It's like going to see a comedian, having everybody around you dying of laughters and trying to break the mood repeatedely. What's the message you're sending doing that ? Let me enlight it for you : "this is not funny, you're all stupid". See the problem (especially considering all 3 are you friends) ? Saying that you "weren't impressed" is a massive understatement. This is already a long post for something that certainly won't impact my life heavily, so allow me to not list all the instances i'm talking about. So really, it's pretty simple, you just had to say : YES, i was very annoyed during Larva's games because on top of being tired, i had met Legend who is really a likeable and humble person, and i just felt bad for him and for the way Larva was actually humiliating him (even if it wasn't on purpose, in a mean way, but simply for fun). I wasn't amused, and i felt my co-casters were kinda overreacting, which is why i made some comments here and there during the games. But i wasn't in the state of anger people are trying to portray, and coming to the interview i had mostly moved on. I didn't aim at expressing any kind of frustration through my questions, I was trying to shift the conversation away from Legend in a humourous way, and I'm sorry if you didn't get it that way. (At the very least AntiCreative, seeing how long this has been going on, i'd like to know if you would have been pleased with this answer.) I am now going to forget about this story. Best luck to you moving forward and hoping to see you again in a future cast (hopefully featuring Larva). | ||
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