• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:43
CEST 11:43
KST 18:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!33Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 540 Dodge This The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group F BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6107 users

ASL Season 4 Update - Page 7

Forum Index > BW General
145 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
August 24 2017 22:39 GMT
#121
As much as I love savior for what he brought to the game (when he actually played to win...), most people will always see the man who killed professional brood war. Afreeca forbid him from streaming so I doubt they'll allow him to compete.
Asian culture is kinda like that, mess up once get fucked for life. Doesn't matter if he was legally punished for what he did or not. I remember when sonic tried to invite him to an SSL and got the sickest shitstorm on the korean message boards...
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
August 24 2017 22:41 GMT
#122
It's not KeSPa that prevents Savior from competing, it's the entire Korean community.
PolarBearFur
Profile Joined April 2017
Finland24 Posts
August 24 2017 23:13 GMT
#123
Why do people still want to let SaviOr compete that bad? He compromised the integrity of the sport, should he be let play again, every time he lost a match people would be joking/wondering if he lost that on purpose, since he's done that before, and that kinda discussion hurts the community.

"Mess up once get fucked for life"?? He didn't "mess up", he knew what he was doing, he got multiple other people involved in match fixing, "get fucked for life" how? He can't play StarCraft, he can do literally anything else but play the one game that he cheated in. StarCraft isn't even as big of a deal anymore as it was during when he played, it's time to move on for him.
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-24 23:26:13
August 24 2017 23:24 GMT
#124
That's what i hate about modern culture, all act like crazy feminists, thinking they are judges and the most righteous persons, who can say and do whatever they want and impose their shitty mentallity and principles over others just by social pressure. i would let Savior play, because legally he has already paid for what he did, and has the rigth to have a second chance in life. Just imagine if people were sentenced for life for every shit they do, most people cheats on others, take advantage of others, or others has done worst shit than what Savior did and have been able to get back to society as a functional menber, because they got allowed to get a second chance, just because a person is publicly known doesn't mean they have to be punished beyond than what they were legally punished
"There will always be a new generation of youth, they will be more beautiful, more vigorous, and they shall inspire greater hope for the future in the hearts of the living"
DrunkenMaster_Terran
Profile Joined August 2017
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-24 23:35:24
August 24 2017 23:24 GMT
#125
Applications for ASL4, past stats are posted on this website - https://starleague.kr/
DrunkenMaster_Terran
Profile Joined August 2017
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-24 23:34:03
August 24 2017 23:26 GMT
#126
12 Qualifiers from Seoul, 6 from Daegu, 6 from Busan (Total of 24)
4 Seed players from ASL3 (Flash, Shine, Bisu, SoulKey)
diggurd
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Norway346 Posts
August 24 2017 23:46 GMT
#127
On August 25 2017 08:24 MymSlorm wrote:
That's what i hate about modern culture, all act like crazy feminists ...


You and me both brother, you and me both.... Errbody acting like crazy feminists............
the interesting thing about this quote is that youll only understand whats interesting when youre done reading it. ǝɯıʇ ɹn ƃuıʇsɐʍ n ǝɹɐ ʎɥʍ
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-24 23:54:56
August 24 2017 23:48 GMT
#128
On August 25 2017 08:13 PolarBearFur wrote:

"Mess up once get fucked for life"?? He didn't "mess up", he knew what he was doing, he got multiple other people involved in match fixing, "get fucked for life" how? He can't play StarCraft, he can do literally anything else but play the one game that he cheated in. StarCraft isn't even as big of a deal anymore as it was during when he played, it's time to move on for him.


Yeah he made a mistake, that's what I would call messing up. Do you honestly believe he doesn't regret what he did? And yes he is fucked for life. Choosing to become a progamer pretty much means you don't have a shot at any other career. He is driving limos now and that's pretty much one of the best jobs a pro gamer is gonna get. Besides when he went to the military, he has never stopped playing. He obviously still loves the game. He is fucked for life in the sense that he will never be able to do the one thing he is good at again.

Besides, this is completely off topic and the Korean community will never allow him to compete again anyway.
DrunkenMaster_Terran
Profile Joined August 2017
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-24 23:59:04
August 24 2017 23:55 GMT
#129
On August 25 2017 08:48 Lorch wrote:
He is fucked for life in the sense that he will never be able to do the one thing he is good at again.


He's doing perfectly fine, actually better than most -VOD So please don't fret over Savior, "the broker behind the match fixing that demolished the BW scene". Also, he was exempt from his military obligations (Bad Knee)




XERX
Profile Joined April 2017
85 Posts
August 24 2017 23:56 GMT
#130
On August 25 2017 08:46 diggurd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 08:24 MymSlorm wrote:
That's what i hate about modern culture, all act like crazy feminists ...


You and me both brother, you and me both.... Errbody acting like crazy feminists............



... why do you want bring up feminists in a brood war forum
XERX
Profile Joined April 2017
85 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-24 23:58:20
August 24 2017 23:57 GMT
#131
=
diggurd
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Norway346 Posts
August 25 2017 00:00 GMT
#132
On August 25 2017 08:56 XERX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 08:46 diggurd wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:24 MymSlorm wrote:
That's what i hate about modern culture, all act like crazy feminists ...


You and me both brother, you and me both.... Errbody acting like crazy feminists............



... why do you want bring up feminists in a brood war forum


You tell me. I guess its this new blue, red whatever, pill meme. They blame feminism for everything
the interesting thing about this quote is that youll only understand whats interesting when youre done reading it. ǝɯıʇ ɹn ƃuıʇsɐʍ n ǝɹɐ ʎɥʍ
PolarBearFur
Profile Joined April 2017
Finland24 Posts
August 25 2017 00:04 GMT
#133
Making a mistake would be something that you either didn't know was not allowed, or did something by accident. He did something HE KNEW was illegal and banned, for MONEY. If you pick a career that means you "don't have a shot at any other career" maybe you should not throw away it like that? He fucked himself up. Would you let a convicted child molester work at an elementary school or kindergarten? A convicted embezzler to work as an accountant?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51686 Posts
August 25 2017 00:08 GMT
#134
This is not the time or place to debate Savior and his punishment. Go to the other threads or create a new one - but I must say that the topic has been discussed time and time again.
Commentator
PolarBearFur
Profile Joined April 2017
Finland24 Posts
August 25 2017 00:10 GMT
#135
my apologies
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 01:54:05
August 25 2017 00:28 GMT
#136
On August 25 2017 09:08 GTR wrote:
This is not the time or place to debate Savior and his punishment. Go to the other threads or create a new one - but I must say that the topic has been discussed time and time again.

Yeah i was just asking if the qualifiers are totally open, or if there are people who's banned, like Savior. I also gave my thougths about over used and shitty "new" maps, which are the same things used like 10 years ago with just minor changes
"There will always be a new generation of youth, they will be more beautiful, more vigorous, and they shall inspire greater hope for the future in the hearts of the living"
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
613 Posts
August 25 2017 00:48 GMT
#137
90% of the people who try to "defend" or advocate for savior are usually the ones who only do so to be contrarian or just give sympathy to someone they're barely aware of.

he's a bastard. he's never apologized. his own coach put his career and crediblity on the line defending him in public and in the media, passionately saying that it was not in his character to cheat.

incredibly shameful. and he milked his old fans for luxury beauty products for years before he was banned from streaming.

JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
August 25 2017 01:57 GMT
#138
On August 25 2017 09:48 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
90% of the people who try to "defend" or advocate for savior are usually the ones who only do so to be contrarian or just give sympathy to someone they're barely aware of.

he's a bastard. he's never apologized. his own coach put his career and crediblity on the line defending him in public and in the media, passionately saying that it was not in his character to cheat.

incredibly shameful. and he milked his old fans for luxury beauty products for years before he was banned from streaming.


I don't give a crap how he's in his personal life, all what i care about is how he plays, i only know the savior i saw on TV. But Coreans seem to care too much about people they barely known rigth?(unless you are a relative, or friend of him you can't type shit either). and i was just asking, because i don't really know if the qualifiers are open for EVERYONE or not
"There will always be a new generation of youth, they will be more beautiful, more vigorous, and they shall inspire greater hope for the future in the hearts of the living"
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
August 25 2017 03:35 GMT
#139
Does anyone happen to know if you need korean citizenship/alien card for the qualifier? I would get absolutely rekt in the first match, but could be a fun experience nonetheless.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51686 Posts
August 25 2017 03:36 GMT
#140
i think you just need a mobile number for verification purposes?
Commentator
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
EnDerr 19
Trap 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 3569
Killer 1530
BeSt 904
Jaedong 768
actioN 637
firebathero 445
Leta 378
Larva 318
PianO 278
Soulkey 188
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 176
HiyA 109
Pusan 94
Mind 67
ZerO 49
Hm[arnc] 39
Shine 32
sSak 28
Bale 22
Sharp 20
yabsab 15
sorry 14
SilentControl 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Noble 7
ZZZero.O 4
Dota 2
Fuzer 175
XcaliburYe99
League of Legends
JimRising 362
Counter-Strike
nookyyy 118
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King199
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor171
Other Games
XaKoH 301
KnowMe130
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1074
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH363
• StrangeGG 52
• LUISG 12
• Adnapsc2 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1418
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
1h 17m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
Afreeca Starleague
1d
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 6h
GSL
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-27
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.