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On August 01 2017 05:33 Cryoc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 04:06 Ancestral wrote:On August 01 2017 04:02 Cryoc wrote:
Maybe I am too old, but I don't understand the urge to play a game in beta stage. It is very likely that the issues with the occasional missing inputs or falsely allocated control groups from 1.18 still exist for players with higher apm. I wouldn't want to play BW with updated graphics but worse gameplay. And sadly I wouldn't be surprised if this continues to be the case for quite some time after the release date (or even forever). That's the point of a beta... to get feedback from people with knowledge about what the problems are. Still leaves me in awe how people complain about not being able to play a half-finished game. Besides this, they already know about the gameplay problems for months, but they either don't care about it or are incompentent in that regard. The whole 1.18 patch was basically a beta for remastered. I am surprised Blizzard officially calls this pre-release a beta. But I doubt anything of substance will improve until mid August.
People aren't upset about not being able to play a "half-finished game." They are modestly perturbed other people with a high level of knowledge, expertise, and work devoted to the scene aren't able to play it.
No one is saying "boo-hoo I can't play," they're saying "Blizzard should've given the nod to these people."
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I've just seen people trash BW saying it is only back due to nostalgia on a stream of a famous SC2 player/personality. Kinda sad people who actually care about the game didn't get into closed beta.
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On August 01 2017 06:14 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
So traitors who switched from BW to SC2 like Mana, ret, TLO have beta and they are just talking on streams like "SC2>bw", "lol bw so sux, units so stupid", "i will do not switch to this game, dont see future for it" seems like
very good advertisement - hahaha, so nice decision by Blizzard - rofl.
I watched Ret's stream and he said he likes BW better and that he enjoys it more. Stop putting words into people's mouths and making shit up. You are one toxic individual.
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Why is it an issue that Blizzard is inviting players who previously competed in Blizzard events? Keyword: Blizzard.
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On August 01 2017 06:48 SolaR- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 06:14 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
So traitors who switched from BW to SC2 like Mana, ret, TLO have beta and they are just talking on streams like "SC2>bw", "lol bw so sux, units so stupid", "i will do not switch to this game, dont see future for it" seems like
very good advertisement - hahaha, so nice decision by Blizzard - rofl. I watched Ret's stream and he said he likes BW better and that he enjoys it more. Stop putting words into people's mouths and making shit up. You are one toxic individual.
If you've seen how much some of these Top Foreign players complain it shouldnt surprise you
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On August 01 2017 01:46 NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 00:58 Cele wrote:On August 01 2017 00:34 Ancestral wrote:
In a completely objective sense, given that Nony went 1-2 in the last round of a courage tournament in the midst of the most competitive era in BW history, there's an argument for his being the best foreigner of all time. Really bizarre he wouldn't be on Blizz's radar.
And I only refer to you in the third person to be objective. O well. Ret has had big successes too, but i was talking about recent accomplishment and current best players, not the best players from 8 years ago. I'm fine with inviting some great players of the good old days and im looking forward to see them play. But going over players like trutacz, eonzerg, bonyth etc. in favor of those is just not right. Actually I agree a lot with this. This was one of the things that annoyed me when I was at my peak, or maybe a bit before my peak, since that courage result and TSL2 obviously got me a lot of instant praise. Anyway, there's quite a bit of lag on recognition in general. The best players from a few years ago (or in this case, almost a decade ago) are treated better than the current best. If I was in charge of invites, I'd definitely go out and find the current best top foreigners and get them all in. Getting in a few "foreigner legends" and some current popular SC2 personalities would be great as well, but you've gotta be most in touch with the guys who are currently the most passionate and invested.
Very well said, guys.
SC:R early access for eon, trutacz, lancer, bony and dewalt seems reasonable. These were the guys that kept playing and streaming BW in the last 2 years. Most notably eon was streaming maybe the most from these and seeing him now struggling get past 65 viewers makes me think a little bit of boost and recognition will do him well. Sure, he will play with the old graphics and after 2 weeks with the new, but acknowledging him would be the better option perhaps.
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I really don't see how giving access to closed beta to SC2 personalities who notoriously dislike BW good advertisement. They open up the game, and proceed to trash it and claim that SC2 is much better. What's the point? They are just making sure the SC2 playerbase is kept for personal gains. Wouldn't it be smarter for Blizzard to give access to people that actually enjoy BW and would praise it?
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Didnt get an invite, not sweating it. It will be out soon enough and I can still play the best version right now. 
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On August 01 2017 07:12 petro1987 wrote:
I really don't see how giving access to closed beta to SC2 personalities who notoriously dislike BW good advertisement. They open up the game, and proceed to trash it and claim that SC2 is much better. What's the point? They are just making sure the SC2 playerbase is kept for personal gains. Wouldn't it be smarter for Blizzard to give access to people that actually enjoy BW and would praise it?
Okay, have any of you people actually watched these sc2 pro's stream it and say it? So far I haven't seen or heard a single one say "Man BW fucking sucks, back to sc2!". It seems you have this thought process that anyone who plays sc2 must think BW is a shit game.
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On August 01 2017 06:41 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
They wasnt even close to be a pro in BW.
ret was pretty close. 
On August 01 2017 06:40 Galtath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 06:20 dr.shrinker wrote:
Haven't heard Ret speak badly of BW once when I watched him today, so that ain't entirely true. On the contrary, I've heard Ret say that SC:R ladder will be his life now.
This is correct.
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On August 01 2017 07:19 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 07:12 petro1987 wrote:
I really don't see how giving access to closed beta to SC2 personalities who notoriously dislike BW good advertisement. They open up the game, and proceed to trash it and claim that SC2 is much better. What's the point? They are just making sure the SC2 playerbase is kept for personal gains. Wouldn't it be smarter for Blizzard to give access to people that actually enjoy BW and would praise it? Okay, have any of you people actually watched these sc2 pro's stream it and say it? So far I haven't seen or heard a single one say "Man BW fucking sucks, back to sc2!". It seems you have this thought process that anyone who plays sc2 must think BW is a shit game.
In just 15 minutes, I've seen Nathanias and JimRising do it. And TB on Nathanias chat.
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On August 01 2017 07:12 petro1987 wrote:
I really don't see how giving access to closed beta to SC2 personalities who notoriously dislike BW good advertisement. They open up the game, and proceed to trash it and claim that SC2 is much better. What's the point? They are just making sure the SC2 playerbase is kept for personal gains. Wouldn't it be smarter for Blizzard to give access to people that actually enjoy BW and would praise it?
Lol can you name one of these SC2 pros that trash BW?
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On August 01 2017 07:23 Valikyr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 07:12 petro1987 wrote:
I really don't see how giving access to closed beta to SC2 personalities who notoriously dislike BW good advertisement. They open up the game, and proceed to trash it and claim that SC2 is much better. What's the point? They are just making sure the SC2 playerbase is kept for personal gains. Wouldn't it be smarter for Blizzard to give access to people that actually enjoy BW and would praise it? Lol can you name one of these SC2 pros that trash BW?
Where exactly is written pros?
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I'm not trying to call anyone out but some of the SC2 personalities have said that it wont last or that it is for nostalgia / too clunky and people wont keep playing etc. I think it is understandable that some are upset that early access was given to people who will say negative stuff like that.
I think almost everyone, Ret especially, have had positive things to say about their experiences. I don't think it is a big deal and definitely not worth the drama.
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If anything, give fuckin NonY closed beta access, he got to the finals in a damn Courage tournament in Korea, that accomplishment basically trumps anything else anyone else has done. >_<
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Nathanias shit talking so much...
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On August 01 2017 07:39 GGzerG wrote:
If anything, give fuckin NonY closed beta access, he got to the finals in a damn Courage tournament in Korea, that accomplishment basically trumps anything else anyone else has done. >_<
Or just make it an open beta so everyone can play! That would be better for everyone rather than beiing upset x person didn't get it over y.
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what about preorder = beta access?
=.=
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On August 01 2017 07:53 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 07:39 GGzerG wrote:
If anything, give fuckin NonY closed beta access, he got to the finals in a damn Courage tournament in Korea, that accomplishment basically trumps anything else anyone else has done. >_< Or just make it an open beta so everyone can play! That would be better for everyone rather than beiing upset x person didn't get it over y.
There is obviously a reason they made it closed and not open. Be it server related or whatever.
I'm honestly a bit surprised how many BW people are tripping over eachother trying to find excuses for Blizzard. Literally any other option would have been normal.
Open beta? Fine.
Random beta? Fine.
First come, first serve beta? Fine.
BW and SC2 profiles plus retired legends beta? Fine (best option).
Invite only SC2 profiles? Gimme a break.
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On August 01 2017 07:49 fish_radio wrote:
Nathanias shit talking so much...
Yeah but he's basically a dipshit/troll I wouldnt read into anything he says.
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