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ZeroDPX
Profile Joined April 2009
United States392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 08:11:22
November 25 2009 07:18 GMT
#2141
VODs for games mentioned above:

+ Show Spoiler [BoxeR vs. YellOw VOD] +
(since the linked version above has been taken down)

+ Show Spoiler [Hyuk vs. Anytime VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [BeSt vs. DarkElf VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [Violet vs. Mind VOD] +

More games recommended in the battle report threads:

+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Leta vs. firebathero
Horang2 vs. Stork
YellOw[ArnC] vs. JangBi
Modesty vs. han
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 18:01:07
November 25 2009 10:47 GMT
#2142
ZerO vs Hwasin from OSL Ro16 Day 1

+ Show Spoiler [Description] +
This is one of the closest zvt's I've ever seen. You can't be sure who's winning until the very end. Very nice defiler usage by ZerO, bringing us back to the GGPlay vs Iris final.


Edit:
marcoso *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil818 Posts
November 25 2009 12:18 GMT
#2143
spoilers for 2 ace matches above.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2605 Posts
November 25 2009 15:32 GMT
#2144
OSL R16 Day 1 Flash vs Kwanro

you wont regret it

+ Show Spoiler +
Totally amazing with flash playing risky.... i almost shat in my pants
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 25 2009 16:20 GMT
#2145
Personally, I think all of the OSL games from last night are worth watcing: it's the OSL, after all, and all of them had at least something interesting about them. Plus, the aggregate length is quite short for four games, so it's not a huge investment of time.

Anyway, here are some brief descriptions so you can decide for yourself what you want to watch. Spoilered all of them, even the non-spoiler ones, just in case anyone likes to watch a game without knowing anything at all about it. If a spoiler spoils the winner, it's because the game was so one-sided that knowing in advance who wins shouldn't even make a difference to whether you find the game interesting.

Jaedong vs. Pusan:
+ Show Spoiler [non-spoiler] +
Short and exciting. As is becoming standard for him, Pusan opens with something non-standard. Jaedong, of course, is Jaedong. Very tense game, but decided quickly.

Also, the Dong makes a hilarious misstep near the beginning of the game. Worth watching just for that, although its overall impact on the game was minimal.

Hwasin vs. Zero:
+ Show Spoiler [non-spoiler] +
A little boring at first, but from the mid-game on, it becomes a really, really good TvZ/ZvT. Although it seems one-sided at first, as the game progresses, it becomes harder and harder to decide who's ahead. I changed my mind several times, and wasn't absolutely sure until the very end.

Features gosu vessel and defiler micro (by different sides, obviously), as well as some uncommon units. Definitely worth watching.

Calm vs. Fantasy:
+ Show Spoiler [semi-spoiler] +
Probably the most strategic of their races' top players face off. As expected, at least one side takes an interesting approach to the game. However, it fails spectacularly.

To be honest, this was my least favorite of the games tonight.+ Show Spoiler +
The losing side took some risks and when the flop didn't go his way, he just pushed all his chips in instead of backing down and trying to regroup. Result: utter rape.

Flash vs. Kwanro:
+ Show Spoiler [spoils winner] +
Utter, utter domination by Flash, using his new approach of unpredictably timed M & M attacks backed by good micro. Worth watching to see how quickly the game goes from "seems relatively standard" to "it's over?". The scariest part is that this was in no way an all-in, but it was just as destructive. Flash's TvZ is looking ridiculously good these days, which should benefit him in this OSL.

Alternatively:
If you like short games, cheese, and/or micro, watch:
+ Show Spoiler +
Jaedong vs. Pusan

If you like back-and-forth, close games, and/or micro, watch:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hwasin vs. Zero

If you like complete domination, watch:
+ Show Spoiler +
Flash vs. Kwanro. You might also watch Calm vs. Fantasy, but I think the first game is a better example of the winner's play being the biggest factor in the game's outcome, rather than the loser's play.


I think the best game of the lot was Hwasin vs. Zero, but they all had at least something to recommend them.

All games are up on Baezzi's channel already; I'd link the VODs directly, but it's too much trouble, seeing as my secondary mouse button is broken.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
November 25 2009 16:57 GMT
#2146
On November 26 2009 00:32 chongu wrote:
OSL R16 Day 1 Flash vs Kwanro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B07O466pDKw you wont regret it

+ Show Spoiler +
Totally amazing with flash playing risky.... i almost shat in my pants

Why the hell is this a recommended game? One well-timed attack, no more no less.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 25 2009 17:04 GMT
#2147
On November 26 2009 01:57 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2009 00:32 chongu wrote:
OSL R16 Day 1 Flash vs Kwanro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B07O466pDKw you wont regret it

+ Show Spoiler +
Totally amazing with flash playing risky.... i almost shat in my pants

Why the hell is this a recommended game? One well-timed attack, no more no less.

Ah, but such a well-timed attack.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
logic13
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden128 Posts
November 25 2009 17:06 GMT
#2148
Zero vs Hwasin is one of the best games i've seen i think!
ZeroDPX
Profile Joined April 2009
United States392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 07:10:59
November 25 2009 17:12 GMT
#2149
VODs for the recommended proleague games from last night:

+ Show Spoiler [Leta vs. firebathero VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [Horang2 vs. Stork VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [YellOw(ArnC) vs. JangBi VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [Modesty vs. han VOD] +

VODs for the other two OSL games not linked above:

+ Show Spoiler [Jaedong vs. Pusan VOD] +

+ Show Spoiler [Fantasy vs. Calm VOD] +
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 17:25:51
November 25 2009 17:23 GMT
#2150
On November 26 2009 00:32 chongu wrote:
OSL R16 Day 1 Flash vs Kwanro

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B07O466pDKw
you wont regret it

+ Show Spoiler +
Totally amazing with flash playing risky.... i almost shat in my pants


+ Show Spoiler +
Fuck yes, I love this guy... Look at the expression on his face!
AKA SuddenSalad
marcoso *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 19:55:08
November 25 2009 19:46 GMT
#2151
On November 26 2009 02:23 Lovin wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
Fuck yes, I love this guy... Look at the expression on his face!

yup... his "ok, i won" face is too much fun

On November 26 2009 02:04 qrs wrote:

Ah, but such a well-timed attack.

well, not everyone apreciates such thing (and others, like good scouting and preventing being scouted, map control etc). Just like when i recommended JD vs Bisu from WCG09 and tons of people complained. But for a better understanding, I recommend watching Day[9] daily #0018 (and all his work). Just look for his post in the Broodwar section
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
November 25 2009 21:48 GMT
#2152
On November 26 2009 02:04 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2009 01:57 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On November 26 2009 00:32 chongu wrote:
OSL R16 Day 1 Flash vs Kwanro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B07O466pDKw you wont regret it

+ Show Spoiler +
Totally amazing with flash playing risky.... i almost shat in my pants

Why the hell is this a recommended game? One well-timed attack, no more no less.

Ah, but such a well-timed attack.


It's more Kwanro messing up his sunken timing. It looks no different from any TvZ where a Zerg gets too greedy and has only one sunken.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 26 2009 00:44 GMT
#2153
On November 26 2009 02:04 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2009 01:57 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On November 26 2009 00:32 chongu wrote:
OSL R16 Day 1 Flash vs Kwanro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B07O466pDKw you wont regret it

+ Show Spoiler +
Totally amazing with flash playing risky.... i almost shat in my pants

Why the hell is this a recommended game? One well-timed attack, no more no less.

Ah, but such a well-timed attack.

Ever Terran who faces 3 hatch zerg makes that timing attack. The fact that Kwanro died to it means that zergs have forgotten how to play 3 hatch.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 26 2009 05:31 GMT
#2154
On November 26 2009 09:44 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2009 02:04 qrs wrote:
On November 26 2009 01:57 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On November 26 2009 00:32 chongu wrote:
OSL R16 Day 1 Flash vs Kwanro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B07O466pDKw you wont regret it

+ Show Spoiler +
Totally amazing with flash playing risky.... i almost shat in my pants

Why the hell is this a recommended game? One well-timed attack, no more no less.

Ah, but such a well-timed attack.

Every Terran who faces 3 hatch zerg makes that timing attack. The fact that Kwanro died to it means that zergs have forgotten how to play 3 hatch.

Wait--so you don't think that Kwanro ever tried this build in practice against Terrans before pulling it out for the OSL?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 26 2009 07:04 GMT
#2155
On November 26 2009 14:31 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2009 09:44 motbob wrote:
On November 26 2009 02:04 qrs wrote:
On November 26 2009 01:57 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On November 26 2009 00:32 chongu wrote:
OSL R16 Day 1 Flash vs Kwanro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B07O466pDKw you wont regret it

+ Show Spoiler +
Totally amazing with flash playing risky.... i almost shat in my pants

Why the hell is this a recommended game? One well-timed attack, no more no less.

Ah, but such a well-timed attack.

Every Terran who faces 3 hatch zerg makes that timing attack. The fact that Kwanro died to it means that zergs have forgotten how to play 3 hatch.

Wait--so you don't think that Kwanro ever tried this build in practice against Terrans before pulling it out for the OSL?

Flash even said Kwanro got too greedy. It's called taking a risk, he never thought Flash would exploit that small time window.
Jaedong
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 26 2009 17:13 GMT
#2156
I recommend Hogil vs Shine because of the sheer amount of fail that makes it different to most games xD
Revolutionist fan
Jaxx
Profile Joined July 2004
Slovakia758 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 17:41:49
November 26 2009 17:24 GMT
#2157
Cmon guys, am I the only one who feels that this thread has fallen quite apart? It was created for games that stand far out from the average and are worth watching. Last few pages there's just too many games that don't match the quality level that was set in past. Why do some (usually low post) users need to post games from every playday with bold comments (u won't regret it, best game i've ever seen etc.), rise our expectations and completely fail to fill them?

I feel like we need recommended vods from recommended vods thread Or maybe I should only watch games recommended by trustworthy users (but what if someone passes them). Maybe I'm little harsh here, but it's quite frustrating when u have like hour of time in week and spend it watching sub par games. </rant>

Edit: Forgot to say, if you want the better games from specific playday, just look into LR thread. Only the best games belong here. And yea, it's really great idea to post 25 minutes long bad games just for the fail, funny face or whatever without even giving some time mark...
Cranefly
Profile Joined February 2007
Germany184 Posts
November 26 2009 17:53 GMT
#2158
On November 27 2009 02:24 Jaxx wrote:
Cmon guys, am I the only one who feels that this thread has fallen quite apart? It was created for games that stand far out from the average and are worth watching. Last few pages there's just too many games that don't match the quality level that was set in past. Why do some (usually low post) users need to post games from every playday with bold comments (u won't regret it, best game i've ever seen etc.), rise our expectations and completely fail to fill them?

I feel like we need recommended vods from recommended vods thread Or maybe I should only watch games recommended by trustworthy users (but what if someone passes them). Maybe I'm little harsh here, but it's quite frustrating when u have like hour of time in week and spend it watching sub par games. </rant>

Edit: Forgot to say, if you want the better games from specific playday, just look into LR thread. Only the best games belong here. And yea, it's really great idea to post 25 minutes long bad games just for the fail, funny face or whatever without even giving some time mark...


no, you are not.
My sporting heroes are Lim Yo Hwan, Neil Robertson, Peter Gade and Henning Fritz
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-26 21:22:58
November 26 2009 21:21 GMT
#2159
On November 27 2009 02:53 Cranefly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 02:24 Jaxx wrote:
Cmon guys, am I the only one who feels that this thread has fallen quite apart? It was created for games that stand far out from the average and are worth watching. Last few pages there's just too many games that don't match the quality level that was set in past. Why do some (usually low post) users need to post games from every playday with bold comments (u won't regret it, best game i've ever seen etc.), rise our expectations and completely fail to fill them?

I feel like we need recommended vods from recommended vods thread Or maybe I should only watch games recommended by trustworthy users (but what if someone passes them). Maybe I'm little harsh here, but it's quite frustrating when u have like hour of time in week and spend it watching sub par games.

Edit: Forgot to say, if you want the better games from specific playday, just look into LR thread. Only the best games belong here. And yea, it's really great idea to post 25 minutes long bad games just for the fail, funny face or whatever without even giving some time mark...


no, you are not.

I agree, and I think the solution is more specific match descriptions. People have different tastes in VODs, but if each one in this thread is described with something more useful than "best game ever!!11" we'll each be able to pick and choose what looks good.

So: if you post a VOD in this thread that isn't obviously epic, please explain why it's here!
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ZeroDPX
Profile Joined April 2009
United States392 Posts
November 26 2009 22:47 GMT
#2160
I'm happy to stop posting recommendations from the battle reports. I just try to link VODs for games that other people mention as recommendations, to save people the hassle of going and finding them. I can easily continue to do that but only for games others have already mentioned in this thread, if that will help people not feel so overloaded.

Incidentally, I do have my own list of recommended games that draws on this thread as one of several sources. I haven't linked it because I have yet to watch and recommend games from a number of my sources (e.g. the GOMTV S2 Ro16 onward, about 70 pages worth of this thread, the "100 best games aired on MBC" list, etc.), but if you're bored, it's at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AlQ6USbMU5XqdFZFVFVXVDlYc0ZWdUlFQmhFSmo0NGc&hl=en , and I personally vouch for all the games therein. I add new games to it every Monday.
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