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SPOTV SSL Classic(BW) announced
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largoman
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Terrorbladder
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Jealous
10105 Posts
On February 28 2017 14:52 Terrorbladder wrote: What's the format for BW league? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/519634-ssl-2017-announced-ft-sc2-and-bw#17 Some posts above it explain other details like payout and etc. EDIT: Full English: https://twitter.com/spotv_games_en/status/836452470796623872/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw | ||
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largoman
Korea (South)87 Posts
On February 28 2017 14:53 Jealous wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/519634-ssl-2017-announced-ft-sc2-and-bw#17 Some posts above it explain other details like payout and etc. EDIT: Full English: https://twitter.com/spotv_games_en/status/836452470796623872/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw fixed. Thx | ||
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RainmanMP
United States1698 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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Jealous
10105 Posts
On February 28 2017 15:05 RainmanMP wrote: I'm curious who is available to vote for. Would be amazing if Boxer, Yellow, Nada etc the old old guard are possibilities. That'd be cool but I'd really rather see TBLS + Best + Effort + Sea + Shuttle? or other top players in this first foray into reverse hybrid league lol. While there is an undeniable hype surrounding the OGs, I feel like the highest level play matters more for attracting future sponsors, new viewers, and especially as more and more of the players approach military age. | ||
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Wrath
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Jealous
10105 Posts
On February 28 2017 15:45 Wrath wrote: Is this a non-afreeca league? Who is hosting this? SSL was an SC2 tournament. SpoTV is the sponsor. | ||
GTR
51391 Posts
On February 28 2017 15:07 Jealous wrote: That'd be cool but I'd really rather see TBLS + Best + Effort + Sea + Shuttle? or other top players in this first foray into reverse hybrid league lol. While there is an undeniable hype surrounding the OGs, I feel like the highest level play matters more for attracting future sponsors, new viewers, and especially as more and more of the players approach military age. it's going to be a popularity contest no doubt, so jobbers like terror and britney will get in based on name value alone. | ||
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Jealous
10105 Posts
On February 28 2017 15:59 GTR wrote: it's going to be a popularity contest no doubt, so jobbers like terror and britney will get in based on name value alone. As long as the other 6 are from the 8 that I listed, I'll still be immensely happy. | ||
Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
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toriak
Slovakia477 Posts
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Zera
Lithuania716 Posts
On February 28 2017 16:05 Jealous wrote: As long as the other 6 are from the 8 that I listed, I'll still be immensely happy. But you forgot AlphaGo  | ||
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AdelSC123
France362 Posts
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
4/2~4/18, RO24 Zero will go army in 5/11. so he cant participate in ASL 3. | ||
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outscar
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On February 28 2017 16:55 K.H.J wrote: Also, ASL Season3 will start 3/25(Seoul), 3/26(Busan) 4/2~4/18, RO24 Zero will go army in 5/11. so he cant participate in ASL 3. Thanks for sharing this. Glad to hear ASL3 is upcoming so soon. Sad to hear ZerO is enlisting We really need more Zerg. Would you know if  Killer 박준오 will return to Afreeca after the army? ~20 months enlistment would end ~June 2017 | ||
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largoman
Korea (South)87 Posts
On February 28 2017 16:34 Epoxide wrote: The SSL name is so confusing I guess it is Spotv Starcraft League | ||
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LittLeLives
United States692 Posts
On February 28 2017 16:55 K.H.J wrote: Also, ASL Season3 will start 3/25(Seoul), 3/26(Busan) 4/2~4/18, RO24 Zero will go army in 5/11. so he cant participate in ASL 3. I guess this is the last offline(?) event ZerO will be able to participate in assuming it starts relatively soon and finishes in 9(+/-1) weeks? | ||
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IntoTheStorm
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6504 Posts
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On February 28 2017 17:55 prech wrote: Thanks for sharing this. Glad to hear ASL3 is upcoming so soon. Sad to hear ZerO is enlisting We really need more Zerg. Would you know if Killer 박준오 will return to Afreeca after the army? ~20 months enlistment would end ~June 2017Killer will return to AfreecaTV after 7/13. Korea army duty is 21 months at least. And GGaemo (kt.mgw)shk, HwasengOZ ) will start streaming next week. JD promise first sponsor game. They are best friends. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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HaN-
France1919 Posts
On February 28 2017 20:32 K.H.J wrote: And GGaemo (kt.mgw)shk, HwasengOZ ) will start streaming next week. JD promise first sponsor game. They are best friends. I looked him up on Liquipedia and found this gem. :D "ggaemo is popularly called "Gasp Zerg" by foreign fans after his reaction to losing a large group of Hydralisks to Upmagic's hidden mine" | ||
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
This means potentially, we might see SSL, OSL, ASL all playing simultaneously next year! | ||
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Piste
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Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On February 28 2017 22:21 HaN- wrote: I looked him up on Liquipedia and found this gem. :D "ggaemo is popularly called "Gasp Zerg" by foreign fans after his reaction to losing a large group of Hydralisks to Upmagic's hidden mine" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y39Lv142-B0#t=21m37s That's not his most memorable game. This is | ||
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iamho
United States3346 Posts
On March 01 2017 03:26 duke91 wrote: That's not his most memorable game. This is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR3s47edGwg All he had to do was protect that one science vessel and he screwed it up. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On February 28 2017 18:52 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: wow man,so much bw content,afreeca team league,OGN ASL AND SSL,BW 2017 ^^ I just hope new blood turns up, so that the competition will be fiercer. | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On March 01 2017 04:55 Lucumo wrote: I just hope new blood turns up, so that the competition will be fiercer. I hope new blood turns up so we're not screwed in terms of viewer numbers when Bisu, Stork, JD, Terror have to do military service simultanously  | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On February 28 2017 20:32 K.H.J wrote: Killer will return to AfreecaTV after 7/13. Korea army duty is 21 months at least. And GGaemo (kt.mgw)shk, HwasengOZ ) will start streaming next week. JD promise first sponsor game. They are best friends. Thanks. Has Killer confirmed he will be playing BW after army? Before enlisting, he played very little, so I worry he is no longer interested... | ||
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On March 01 2017 04:55 Lucumo wrote: well, fan votes are about the worst possible way to do that...I just hope new blood turns up, so that the competition will be fiercer. | ||
Harem
United States11390 Posts
On March 01 2017 06:13 prech wrote: Thanks. Has Killer confirmed he will be playing BW after army? Before enlisting, he played very little, so I worry he is no longer interested... I think JD being back might help with that. After all, they did play a few games with each other a few months back. | ||
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Archers_bane
United States1338 Posts
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Jealous
10105 Posts
On March 01 2017 10:44 Archers_bane wrote: How was Killer doing in BW before he went into the army?? I've only started keeping up with BW again 2 months ago but I was heavily invested in Hwaseung OZ back then. He was one of the most successful players. | ||
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On March 01 2017 10:44 Archers_bane wrote: How was Killer doing in BW before he went into the army?? I've only started keeping up with BW again 2 months ago but I was heavily invested in Hwaseung OZ back then. Before hero, ZerO found their stride in BW again after playing SC2, Killer was the best Zerg player. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
for example, I worked for Police(security force) instead of military service. most soldiers sleep in barracks about 21months. they cant use cell phone and computer 21months. but killer's position is administrating reserve force, so now he commute to barracks.(he is lucky guy lol) usually he wathces JD and Bisu's streaming. Sometimes he play with JD. so i think he will come back to BW | ||
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Probemicro
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prech
United States2948 Posts
 Yooi and firebatheroVoting for participants will begin soon http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/649695 | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Just a shame that he won't be participating. I need more Firebathero TvT in my life | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
JD,Flash,Bisu think SSL negative. They say that no preliminary is nonsense, and do not want to participate in SSL And ASL 3 is postponed a week. 910 who is ex-progamer and works in afreecatv now gives us this information. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Piste
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On March 17 2017 16:58 K.H.J wrote: JinAir will be main sponsor of SSL. But it is not fixed. JD,Flash,Bisu think SSL negative. They say that no preliminary is nonsense, and do not want to participate in SSL And ASL 3 is postponed a week. 910 who is ex-progamer and works in afreecatv now gives us this information. Good decision. Broodwar needs fresh blood, which is not coming unless tournaments are available for everyone. SSL is just trying to get the viewers by inviting only the big guns. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
*well, that's not correct, I do understand but I don't agree at all. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On March 17 2017 19:59 PVJ wrote: Yeah, I don't understand* why they chose fan voting to begin with. This isn't a showmatch. *well, that's not correct, I do understand but I don't agree at all. Yeah, in korea, most of fans and progamers are same opinion. PGR21 is same , too. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
On March 17 2017 21:43 K.H.J wrote: Yeah, in korea, most of fans and progamers are same opinion. PGR21 is same , too. Hopefully that will make them reconsider at least for s2. | ||
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heluq
Spain113 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I really want to see more BW on spotv and for that to be the case the first season surely needs to be a success. Mixed feelings about this. | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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Bijan
United States286 Posts
At the same time, we'll get to see how much the exclusion of these top favorites will affect viewership for an event like this and how much their names are really propping up the scene. | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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GTR
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On March 18 2017 06:16 Bijan wrote: That's such a shame. I imagine they feel like it's better for the scene to have prelims even though they know they would for sure be chosen to play. At the same time, we'll get to see how much the exclusion of these top favorites will affect viewership for an event like this and how much their names are really propping up the scene. Sure. Prelims would be better but a fan vote will not decrease the fan scene. Therefore I think it's just dumb to boycott the whole event just because of this ( I know you weren't arguing against this). | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On March 18 2017 07:37 GTR wrote: i hope this doesn't set a precedent where TBLS abuse their star power for future events, even if this is a positive change. crossing fingers this is a one off. I would argue that it's their responsibility to use the clout they have for good in the absence of any real structure in how professional BW is organized. Also, TBLS will continue to have this star power as long as it's impossible for anyone else to break out, which in turn will be the case as long as fan voting or Afreeca viewer count or whatever determines tournament participation. I think open signups have been important for players like Last, who is much more famous now than he ever was during the KeSPA era. I'd love to see a chart of his viewership before and after that first really good run in SSL. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
SSL Classic players choice. 8 players in ASL RO24 players Cmmenter KCM gives us this info. | ||
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lestye
United States4146 Posts
On March 18 2017 08:06 The_Red_Viper wrote: waxangel made a good point on reddit, maybe they just don't wanna compete a lot anyway because streaming is more lucrative I disagreed with that. If that was their concern they wouldnt be participating in a lot of stuff, like Team Battle is really garbage if they only cared about prize money. On March 18 2017 07:37 GTR wrote: i hope this doesn't set a precedent where TBLS abuse their star power for future events, even if this is a positive change. crossing fingers this is a one off. I wouldn't call that an "abuse" of their starpower. They're putting leverage on their names since thats where the value is. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On March 17 2017 16:58 K.H.J wrote: JinAir will be main sponsor of SSL. But it is not fixed. JD,Flash,Bisu think SSL negative. They say that no preliminary is nonsense, and do not want to participate in SSL And ASL 3 is postponed a week. 910 who is ex-progamer and works in afreecatv now gives us this information. Great... BW is in full on revival mode, and now the sponsors can't get along and work together. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 19 2017 20:33 lestye wrote: I disagreed with that. If that was their concern they wouldnt be participating in a lot of stuff, like Team Battle is really garbage if they only cared about prize money. I wouldn't call that an "abuse" of their starpower. They're putting leverage on their names since thats where the value is. It's more about having to compete in multiple things at once. Now there was only the team battle, with SSL there will be ASL as well, etc I am sure they kinda enjoy the competition here and there but they are streamers atm and that surely has to be their focus? On March 19 2017 20:14 K.H.J wrote: http://m.ygosu.com/board/st/655212/?page=1 SSL Classic players choice. 8 players in ASL RO24 players Cmmenter KCM gives us this info. So you only can vote for one of the top 24 players in ASL? | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On March 20 2017 02:32 The_Red_Viper wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2017 20:33 lestye wrote: I disagreed with that. If that was their concern they wouldnt be participating in a lot of stuff, like Team Battle is really garbage if they only cared about prize money. I wouldn't call that an "abuse" of their starpower. They're putting leverage on their names since thats where the value is. It's more about having to compete in multiple things at once. Now there was only the team battle, with SSL there will be ASL as well, etc I am sure they kinda enjoy the competition here and there but they are streamers atm and that surely has to be their focus? So you only can vote for one of the top 24 players in ASL? Sounds like a security system to prevent non players to be voted into the competition | ||
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lestye
United States4146 Posts
On March 20 2017 05:48 TheNewEra wrote: Sounds like a security system to prevent non players to be voted into the competition Yeah, I remember when they first announced the fanvote, people were thinking that it'd be Terror + Brittney and BJ personalities rather than pros, making the competition a mockery. (Granted Terror made to Ro24 last ASL, so he'd technically still be int he running) | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 20 2017 05:48 TheNewEra wrote: Sounds like a security system to prevent non players to be voted into the competition Oh yeah i am just wondering if i interpreted it the right way | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49650 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
If not then i am kinda disappointed in the decision of all the players here, seems counterproductive to the potential growth of the scene :/ | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
They think 2 league is a burden to Gamers. Because SSL will start right aftet ASL preliminary. I dont know why Stork change his mind. A week ago, If his fan vote him, then he promise to participate. Kongdoo? I dont know ... | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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lestye
United States4146 Posts
On March 20 2017 17:00 K.H.J wrote: Kongdoo and Flash talk each other. They think 2 league is a burden to Gamers. Because SSL will start right aftet ASL preliminary. I dont know why Stork change his mind. A week ago, If his fan vote him, then he promise to participate. Kongdoo? I dont know ... What? I don't understand that. It seems good to have 2 leagues somewhat concurrent and staggered because if you lose you don't have to wait 3-4 months for another league. | ||
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Broodwar4lyf
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On March 20 2017 17:13 Broodwar4lyf wrote: 2 leagues burden to gamers? Flash isn't even complaining and he's guaranteed Ro4 on both based on skill alone Because his wrist is not good. So Flash fans in korea understand about that. Korea community and ex-progamers' opinion is that spotv is urgent. They have to discuss with ex-progamers anr Kongdoo before, but they did just notify. I think Spotv cause a failure. | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On March 20 2017 17:09 lestye wrote: What? I don't understand that. It seems good to have 2 leagues somewhat concurrent and staggered because if you lose you don't have to wait 3-4 months for another league. Well having to play 7 days of round robin + post season is probably not worth it for them because they make more money streaming. Uff. I'm really not happy by this decision. I guess we either get a SSL now with the 8 'worst' players and no season afterwards or the SSL is cancelled and we lose SpoTV as an organizer and Jin Air as a sponsor. Great. On March 20 2017 17:28 K.H.J wrote: Because his wrist is not good. So Flash fans in korea understand about that. Korea community and ex-progamers' opinion is that spotv is urgent. They have to discuss with ex-progamers anr Kongdoo before, but they did just notify. I think Spotv cause a failure. But why is SpoTV urgent? They announced their league 4 weeks ago. Afaik ASL3 is still not formally announced and it was about to start in 5 days originally. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On March 20 2017 17:28 TheNewEra wrote: Well having to play 7 days of round robin + post season is probably not worth it for them because they make more money streaming. Uff. I'm really not happy by this decision. I guess we either get a SSL now with the 10 'worst' players and no season afterwards or the SSL is cancelled and we lose SpoTV as an organizer and Jin Air as a sponsor. Great. But why is SpoTV urgent? They announced their league 4 weeks ago. Afaik ASL3 is still not formally announced and it was about to start in 5 days originally. If Spotv want to do fan votes, they must talk with ex-progamers and Kongdoo. But they didn't. Honestly first i heared thay news, i think it is nonsense, too | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49650 Posts
On March 20 2017 17:28 TheNewEra wrote: Well having to play 7 days of round robin + post season is probably not worth it for them because they make more money streaming. Uff. I'm really not happy by this decision. I guess we either get a SSL now with the 10 'worst' players and no season afterwards or the SSL is cancelled and we lose SpoTV as an organizer and Jin Air as a sponsor. Great. But why is SpoTV urgent? They announced their league 4 weeks ago. Afaik ASL3 is still not formally announced and it was about to start in 5 days originally. publicly announced is different from internally decided, some players would have known ASL3 dates months in advance. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
They deserve nothing. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6504 Posts
On March 20 2017 19:04 duke91 wrote: Meh SSL wants to reap the fruits which others have sown, while doing nothing when BW had a hard time. The prize pool is a joke compared to them wanting the most popular streamers, who make bank just streaming. At least ASL has a certain prestige already to it, while SSL with it vote system does not by default. They deserve nothing. dont go too far,they were hosting bo5 or bo3 showmatches with high prizes,i saw hiya vs zero and zero vs sea,and couple of others(before the big four comeback to broodwar) that i cant recall right now.anyway i know what they goal was,making flash jaedong stork bisu playing everyweek and getting high viewership with korean audience. | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On March 20 2017 19:04 duke91 wrote: Meh SSL wants to reap the fruits which others have sown, while doing nothing when BW had a hard time. The prize pool is a joke compared to them wanting the most popular streamers, who make bank just streaming. At least ASL has a certain prestige already to it, while SSL with it vote system does not by default. They deserve nothing. Now I'm interested. What is your opinion on: -Afreeca? I mean they only actively joined the scene as organizers and sponsors after Sonic basically rebuilt it himself -players like Flash, JD, Stork, Rain, Soulkey? players who actively extended their SC2 contracts instead of joining the amateur scene early, like Bisu, and rebuilding it? Personally I think it would be great to have a 2nd tournament series, have a 2nd big organizer(SpoTV) and a 2nd big sponsor(Jin Air) in the scene. | ||
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On March 20 2017 20:16 Jae Zedong wrote: Calling it 'SSL' seems pretty scummy and obviously meant to capitalize on what Sonic built. They could have easily called it something else, but no, it had to have exactly the same initials. Red flag to me. Yes, I'm sure they were attempting to capitalize on the fame of the defunct tournament series created by a disgraced businessman and not just continuing to use the brand that they've been using for their SC2 tournaments since 2014. | ||
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
On March 20 2017 20:25 gngfn wrote:their SC2 tournaments since 2014. Explains why I've never heard of it. | ||
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lestye
United States4146 Posts
On March 20 2017 20:25 gngfn wrote: Yes, I'm sure they were attempting to capitalize on the fame of the defunct tournament series created by a disgraced businessman and not just continuing to use the brand that they've been using for their SC2 tournaments since 2014. I dont think they're trying to capitalize on Sonic's league at all, but at the same time, when SS2L was announced, Sonic's thing had been going on for 9 seasons at that point. | ||
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ortseam
996 Posts
- spotv/jinair want to have the most popular players to get better viewership - expros/streamers (especially the most popular ones who earn the most) don't wan't to compete in multiple tournaments, since it's not profitable for them (most of them will not get any earnings anyway) I can't blame either, although additionals tournaments can only be good for the scene Also, Sonic receives too little credit imo, despite how the whole story turned out. I doubt BW would have remained popular enough for all the expros to take the decision to come back in BW (at least the recent 2015/16 ones) | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
I liked the GSL back when it was a single-elimination BW tournament. The SSL will definitely need to expand the format in future seasons to allow players who don't yet have popularity to earn a spot through merit. My ideal format would be a series of four-man MSL-style groups--- + Show Spoiler + A vs B C vs D Winner(A,B) vs Winner(C,D) winner advances Loser(A,B) vs Loser(C,D) loser is out Loser[Winner(A,B), Winner(C,D)] vs Winner[Loser(A,B), Loser(C,D)] winner advances and loser is out ---where each match is Bo3 and groups are picked at random. Then in the Ro8 it would be single-elimination Bo5s. | ||
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GTR
51391 Posts
You need a Naver account to vote. http://post.naver.com/viewer/postView.nhn?volumeNo=6981459&memberNo=1156373 3 Terrans, 2 Protoss, 2 Zergs ◆테란 [7명] 조기석 Sharp 임진묵 Organ 윤찬희 Mong 이재호 Light 유영진 Rush 박성균 Mind 최호선 sSak ◆저그 [5명] 김정우 effort 임홍규 Larva 조일장 herO 김민철 Soulkey 한두열 Where ◆프로토스 [5명] 정윤종 Rain 윤용태 pretty 진영화 Movie 김윤중 Shuttle 박수범 Tyson | ||
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GTR
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Kleinmuuhg
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
Flash Last Sea JD Zero Bisu Stork Best Guemchi | ||
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joeyjameson
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6504 Posts
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On March 30 2017 17:58 K.H.J wrote: This is the list of the players who reject SSL classic Flash Last Sea JD Zero Bisu Stork Best Guemchi Why all rejected? | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2606 Posts
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GTR
51391 Posts
Stork: Wants to focus on being an entertaining BJ rather than playing in tournaments Bisu and Jaedong: Want to focus solely on ASL S3. Statements can be read here (Korean) - http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2017033018472397870 Take what you will from those. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
(yeah i voted too, piano, soulkey rain lol) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/O3ivKHv.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wy4TOPQ.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WhbBbKQ.png) | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
How long is voting possible? | ||
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GTR
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Broodwar4lyf
303 Posts
It's like watching the NBA but all the top 10 players are injured/on a vacation | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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lestye
United States4146 Posts
On March 30 2017 20:57 ZiggyPG wrote: I'm actually looking forward to an offline event that isn't dominated by the same names over and over again. Don't get me wrong, having people such as Flash still winning StarLeagues is quite reassuring, but the SSL is going to offer a refreshing take on things, so I'm quite interested to see how this works out. This leaves a lot of room for upsets and unexpected results. I find that kinda ironic because this tournament initially was the exact opposite of what you're describing because it was solely invitational based and not merit based. I don't get how SSL is going to be really refreshing, its kinda makes it a farce if so many good players aren't playing. The only problem with Flash & the old guard keep winning is if there arent open qualifiers which are important to keep the scene healthy. On March 30 2017 19:24 GTR wrote: Flash: Personal reasons, such as his arm injury coming back Stork: Wants to focus on being an entertaining BJ rather than playing in tournaments Bisu and Jaedong: Want to focus solely on ASL S3. Statements can be read here (Korean) - http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2017033018472397870 Take what you will from those. Ok. I'm kinda glad that these are the reasons. The previous speculated reasons seemed very political and it might have been justified but it would kinda suck if the competitive community decided to collect | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
Mind, Light, sSak  Rain, free EffOrt, by.hero, Soulkey 3x Terran, 2x Zerg, and 2x Protoss, plus the next highest number of fan votes for the eight slot (Soulkey) Source, source 2 | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
Blue Storm, Match Point, Neo Medusa, Circuit Breaker, Neo Jade Source | ||
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Lorch
Germany3671 Posts
Also great to see Jade, I love that map. | ||
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GTR
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
Will there be a Twitch stream though? | ||
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Ej_
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On April 13 2017 18:37 BLinD-RawR wrote: Day 1 starts today, it would be nice if someone made an LR thread I would love to make LR threads for SC/BW events, but apart from ASL stuff I never know where to find info about these tournaments, like when they start, where the streams will be, who's casting, etc. etc. so I always have to rely on others to figure all this stuff out. =/ I used to manage the USF4 thread on TL because I knew where to find all this information. | ||
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RedW4rr10r
Germany745 Posts
Wolf and Rapid casting, best combo!!! | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/521222-ssl-classic-season-1-day-1 | ||
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sc19980331
China1609 Posts
http://m.sports.naver.com/general/gamecenter/etc/index.nhn?tab=cheer&gameId=20131228SPOTVGAME&type=onair | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
Just checked SC2 liquipedia to find their channel since SSL was organizing only SC2 tournaments and WTF happened to it? Design of liquipedia looks horrible. I don't know if it's something global change or not but hope they won't touch BW one. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 14 2017 08:10 outscar wrote: Really offtopic: Just checked SC2 liquipedia to find their channel since SSL was organizing only SC2 tournaments and WTF happened to it? Design of liquipedia looks horrible. I don't know if it's something global change or not but hope they won't touch BW one. Sc2's liquipedia changed a few days ago, i think dota2 has this style for quite a while. I guess sooner or later every liquipedia will look like that | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
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GTR
51391 Posts
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
Light hurt himself pretty fiercely and apparently needs surgery. He will forfeit his spot in the SSL. And apparently Larva has bladder cancer which will require treatment. Sucky news all around. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On April 19 2017 20:20 GTR wrote: makes sense since he's kind of stuck in hospital - any word of a replacement player? I never heared about replacement. Spotv just says that Soulkey get unearned win. So tomorrow there are only 3 matches in SSL Classic. Give up total round or only this round? I dont know... | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
So soulkey will get freewin.(already twice in this season, shit) I already wrote about it in AfreecaFeed thread. Truly stupid guy. | ||
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sc19980331
China1609 Posts
On May 17 2017 14:53 K.H.J wrote: Because of his military problem, sSak gave up 6 round today.(vs Soulkey) So soulkey will get freewin.(already twice in this season, shit) I already wrote about it in AfreecaFeed thread. Truly stupid guy. How to postpone the mil service? I remember Bisu got mil service notice on 2015 summer, then what happened? Thx. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On May 17 2017 16:43 sc19980331 wrote: How to postpone the mil service? I remember Bisu got mil service notice on 2015 summer, then what happened? Thx. There are some ways to postpone military service.(expediency) University, Trip to abroad, Preparing some jobs or exams(government employee, CPA, etc)... So i think bisu may choose something which i wrote. But he didnt say anything openly. It is clever behavior. | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On May 17 2017 14:53 K.H.J wrote: Because of his military problem, sSak gave up 6 round today.(vs Soulkey) So soulkey will get freewin.(already twice in this season, shit) I already wrote about it in AfreecaFeed thread. Truly stupid guy. Has he gone to military now, or is he trying to do something to postpone it? | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On May 17 2017 18:49 tanngard wrote: Has he gone to military now, or is he trying to do something to postpone it? Postpone. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
S2 will have preliminary. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On May 24 2017 22:22 K.H.J wrote: Info about SSL Classic season2. S2 will have preliminary. That is awesome! | ||
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sc19980331
China1609 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SSL_Classic_Season_1 | ||
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HaN-
France1919 Posts
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GTR
51391 Posts
still at the nexon arena though | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
Season2 will have a preliminary. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On June 10 2017 22:17 K.H.J wrote: Spotv announced SSL Classic season2. Season2 will have a preliminary. IIRC it was said there will be 10 players in the RR in season 2 right? | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On June 10 2017 22:23 The_Red_Viper wrote: IIRC it was said there will be 10 players in the RR in season 2 right? Well, It is 12 players. but it can be changed. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
12? :O | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On June 10 2017 22:17 K.H.J wrote: Spotv announced SSL Classic season2. Season2 will have a preliminary. This is great news! Thank you KJH! | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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