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Jaedong's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOp9K7CjksKsve6CkNPzUWg

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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 18 2017 14:08 GMT
#901
Huh that is interesting. But was he late with lurker aspect or not?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 18 2017 14:10 GMT
#902
Okay. shorter version
JD says the cancelled building was creep colony. JD wanted to tricked Flash but, Flash just happened to scan there instead of JD's nat. He wanted to make flash think that he didn't have any sunkens in order to destroy Flash's base while Flash can only take his nat. Sort of like base trade but, Flash can only take out JD's nat while JD takes out both.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 18 2017 14:11 GMT
#903
On January 18 2017 23:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Huh that is interesting. But was he late with lurker aspect or not?

He didn't mention the lurkers. He says he lost the moment when Flash scanned the creep colony.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 18 2017 14:11 GMT
#904
ok that wasn't shorter -_-;;;;
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 18 2017 14:13 GMT
#905
hehe thanks for the translation! Seems like a weird trick but if it works he looks like a genius haha
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 18 2017 14:13 GMT
#906
JD says he's not going to play 1v1 spon matches for now. He needs rest.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 18 2017 14:15 GMT
#907
Makes sense and i hope the korean fans are kind to him
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 18 2017 14:16 GMT
#908
It was a really good plan. But, Flash ruined it by 1 scan. Flash always scans nat first then base. JD planned it well accordingly but, Flash somehow decided to scan where the third hatch was.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 18 2017 14:17 GMT
#909
Man those fucking maphack scans are back. Flash imba
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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 18 2017 14:18 GMT
#910
On January 18 2017 23:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Makes sense and i hope the korean fans are kind to him

They are. =) JD is most loved I think.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
January 18 2017 14:18 GMT
#911
Interesting idea, but it is weird that he didn't even wait for the first scans from Flash to build the creep colony. If he scans a spire first he will almost always use the 2nd scan at natural or 3rd base just in case of something fishy, so it was rather unlikely to work if he starts the first creep colony so early.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
January 18 2017 14:18 GMT
#912
Thank you for translations
#FPPS
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 18 2017 14:18 GMT
#913
Nah i get what the idea was, but still it's very dependant on a few specific things to occur i guess?
I think JD did great yesterday and i am very pleased with the match (not with the outcome because i like JD simply much more, but still^^)
I hope he plays the korean boardgame today haha, there were funny moments the last time
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 18 2017 14:20 GMT
#914
On January 18 2017 23:18 Cryoc wrote:
Interesting idea, but it is weird that he didn't even wait for the first scans from Flash to build the creep colony. If he scans a spire first he will almost always use the 2nd scan at natural or 3rd base just in case of something fishy, so it was rather unlikely to work if he starts the first creep colony so early.

Flash always scans nat first. I think the strat was tailored towards that. But, Flash decided to scan 3rd hatch first this time lol.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
valas991
Profile Joined September 2014
Hungary181 Posts
January 18 2017 14:26 GMT
#915
thanks for the translation.
Btw, could you give time where this cancel happens? Think I missed in in-game
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 18 2017 14:39 GMT
#916
thanks for translation!
I cannot keep wondering how little do we know about the game and how some facts that seem completely unimportant to us turn out to be game deciding for pros. And we all thought he was late with lurker research, it appears it was all over then, damn. This is so painful, to know your plan didn't work and now everything is lost but still keep playing in hope that your opponent makes a mistake. This also just proves how good is Flash and how it is difficult for zergs to play against him.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
January 18 2017 14:46 GMT
#917
On January 18 2017 23:20 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 23:18 Cryoc wrote:
Interesting idea, but it is weird that he didn't even wait for the first scans from Flash to build the creep colony. If he scans a spire first he will almost always use the 2nd scan at natural or 3rd base just in case of something fishy, so it was rather unlikely to work if he starts the first creep colony so early.

Flash always scans nat first. I think the strat was tailored towards that. But, Flash decided to scan 3rd hatch first this time lol.

That might be, but considering the builds Jaedong played until that game 5, it is no surprise to me, that Flash didn't do the exact same thing. I guess the timing of the additional sunkens would have been too late, if he waited longer, but I am not really convinced that 10s would have made a difference, at worst case he would have to place them at less optimal spots but the plan would have been more likely to succeed.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 18 2017 16:07 GMT
#918
what's jaedong talking about? Getting lots of laughing in chat.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
January 18 2017 16:39 GMT
#919
i think even if flash did not scout the sunkens, killed the nat and then stopped at the sunkens, he should still win because jaedong lost 2 mutas just going into the counter position. so i dont get why jaedong said the game was over after he canceled the creep because losing those 2 mutas for free after that was imo way more critical.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37087 Posts
January 18 2017 19:15 GMT
#920
On January 18 2017 09:49 K.H.J wrote:
1. ASL Korean e-Sports commentator(Lim-sung-chun) says that ASL season3 will start end of February or early March.
Now i do not know what is true...lol

2. JD rest only 1 day. he restart his streaming today. but because of his finger, he can not do many games for a while(until next season?).

This is his message to fan last night. I am not good at english, sorry..

' I am very sad.I thought that if I gave up on myself, I could never beat my opponent, so I really reduce sleep time and got a shot on my fingers and practiced it like I was in pro.This defeat give me a lot of scarcity and I will recover for the next season for the rest of the time. And I'm going to show you next season. Thank you again for your support. Because of regret and emptiness, It is hard to do streaming today. I will do streaming tomorrow. Goodnight.'

Hi.

Can you post the original source to Jaedong's message?
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