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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On September 23 2016 00:06 LRM)TechnicS wrote: yeah but... that one was contextually really good t.t Nah, they are always terrible. He wasn't banned for that, so there isn't even anything to complain about. On September 23 2016 01:26 B-royal wrote: I'm getting so hyped oh my god. Imagine seeing jaedong's FPV :O It will cleanse your eyes. | ||
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TAKK.borg
Croatia93 Posts
On September 23 2016 02:22 kogeT wrote: Found the vods boyz! From 1:30:00: http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/13221404 + Show Spoiler + I just finished watching, 4-0 for JD, very nice action packed ZvZs with mirror builds. Larva got destroyed badly. :D Me too, that + Show Spoiler + 424 | ||
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
On September 22 2016 20:13 Jae Zedong wrote: Hm, how does Fish's ranking algorithm work? For example I see that Melverc (Last) has a way better win/loss ratio but is only 17:th. I guess the bottomline of my question is: Is it reasonable to assume that 424 is the best BW player right now? Better than Flash and Last? Not at all. Obvioulsy if you're in the top rankings, you're amazing. But you have to understand, most of these Pros- they're not even trying in most of their ladder matches. Half the time, they're chatting with their fans and collecting balloons, etc. They even play w-Mode... Plus, in what world has a ladder ranking ever proved you're the undisputed #1 player? That's just awful logic and assumption. Also, they are playing off-race matches at B level lol, I've seen in tons of various streams and it's quite often too. It's not to take away from anyone who is B or higher; essentially B/A/S are all progamer/amateur echelon levels, but you can't go by the ranks and records so much as what you'd perceive at face level. Not to mention, Shineee is #1 as of right now at the time of this post, and... well... we all know Shine is obviously not a top-echelon pro lol. So that proves the point right there. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 23 2016 02:22 kogeT wrote: Found the vods boyz! From 1:30:00: http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/13221404 + Show Spoiler + I just finished watching, 4-0 for JD, very nice action packed ZvZs with mirror builds. Larva got destroyed badly. :D Just watched it + Show Spoiler + Poor Larva haha | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
On September 23 2016 02:22 kogeT wrote: Found the vods boyz! From 1:30:00: http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/13221404 + Show Spoiler + I just finished watching, 4-0 for JD, very nice action packed ZvZs with mirror builds. Larva got destroyed badly. :D thank you very much, kind sir~ | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Larva was very nervous during the games. I didn't like his performance in games 1 and 2 at all in both early and mid game. If he was more aggressive in defending that 1st overlord he lost in game 3, it would have been different. He also clearly could have done better in game 4 IMO. Overall exciting to see JvZ in action but I want more and better games. Hope they do one more, this time longer, session | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1767 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5524 Posts
It doesn't make much sense that it would be a "stunt", that doesn't seem like something JD would do and I see no benefit for him. If he streamed on afreeca he would be making 6 figures a year easily from the amounts I've seen the other top players making, so it's not like he'd be getting a sick amount of money from helping other streamers. Plus if you've watched his earlier games its pretty obvious he is practicing really hard to get back in shape. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5524 Posts
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On September 23 2016 08:22 ICanFlyLow wrote: What if its a stunt to attract more viewers so they get more money? jaedong confirmed himself hes not going back to BW. I mean he practically is back now so i dont know why he wouldn't go all the way? I think alot of people will be mad if he dont return know. Expect riots. | ||
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kogeT
Poland2041 Posts
On September 23 2016 08:22 ICanFlyLow wrote: What if its a stunt to attract more viewers so they get more money? jaedong confirmed himself hes not going back to BW. Where did he say he's not going back to BW..? I hope you don't mean the fan-driven facebook page. | ||
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neilmellor
China49 Posts
On September 06 2016 18:51 AttackZerg wrote: Zero is a great ZvZer. I know it has been a few years and people memories have gone rusty but he was one of two zergs that ended the era of JvZ by beating him in an epic bo5. He had the second best muta control and fantastic tactical sense. The only other active zerg that even compares is effort, who I believe although I could be mistaken, also beat J in a match not long before sc2 murdered our sport. He is top 4 zergs zvz all-time and maybe higher. (I am not a zero fan) Hydra was the other zerg who beat JD in a bo5, if my memory is right. Both Hydra and Zero won JD in MSL semifinals in continous seasons. During that period, J v z was no more as convincing as before. Hydra claimed that he could control the action of each muta at that time. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
On September 24 2016 01:00 neilmellor wrote: Hydra was the other zerg who beat JD in a bo5, if my memory is right. Both Hydra and Zero won JD in MSL semifinals in continous seasons. During that period, J v z was no more as convincing as before. Hydra claimed that he could control the action of each muta at that time. Hydra also beat him in that same period as effort and zero did. Thus marking the end of the unbeatable JvZ | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On September 24 2016 01:00 neilmellor wrote: Hydra claimed that he could control the action of each muta at that time. What does that actually mean? Thanks for the VODs, everyone. (I need more, obviously.) | ||
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On September 24 2016 09:23 Djabanete wrote: What does that actually mean? Thanks for the VODs, everyone. (I need more, obviously.) It means at the time, he was amazing at controlling mutas. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
Not trying to take away from Hydra's skills, I was just curious if it was a specific breakthrough in Zerg micro, like when Jaedong used double muta stacks against Iris's turrets. | ||
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Broodwar4lyf
304 Posts
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neilmellor
China49 Posts
On September 24 2016 08:02 LRM)TechnicS wrote: lol, hydra and zero's tournament wins over JD back then didn't mark anything. Hydra won 3:2 with seemingly pretty good skills which isn't something uncommon for a high level zvz match. Zero's bo5 win was almost exclusively 9pool vs 12hatch in zero's favour in that semifinal. Zero's last win in the bo5 against JD was even a 7pool. JD seemed not to be fully prepared for that semifinal as all his openings were 12hatch for the 4 games. | ||
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neilmellor
China49 Posts
On September 24 2016 10:38 Djabanete wrote: I was trying to ask if he was claiming some specific feat (which I don't understand, because it didn't look like he was controlling each muta individually) or if he was giving a vivid illustration of how hard he practiced. (Just like saying "I practiced 24/7" doesn't literally mean you practiced 24/7.) I suppose the latter. Not trying to take away from Hydra's skills, I was just curious if it was a specific breakthrough in Zerg micro, like when Jaedong used double muta stacks against Iris's turrets. From what I saw from Hydra during that period, Hydra's muta were unbeatable if he had the same amount of muta against a component. So I guess he found some minor improvement / tricks in muta control. He won one "Zerg MSL", as all the remaining players in semifinals are Zerg.  | ||
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