EPTOGN/MBC Surrenders to KeSPA - Page 2
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sweatpants
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a-game
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sheds a tear | ||
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TaDa1.
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infinity21
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This makes translating exponentially difficult  (kicks self for being so crap at Korean) | ||
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bine
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On March 08 2007 17:23 DeadVessel wrote: You can do it infinity! I believe! | ||
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muramasa
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I don't know how profitable OGN and MBCgame are (obviously), but having to buy the broadcast rights from KeSPA is going to cut into that profitability. I hope we don't see a decrease in production values or, even worse, a loss of interest in pro gaming by the broadcasters parent companies. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On March 08 2007 17:34 muramasa wrote: I'm glad that the ProLeague is going to be coming back, but I'm fairly sure this is a bad thing for pro gaming, long term. I don't know how profitable OGN and MBCgame are (obviously), but having to buy the broadcast rights from KeSPA is going to cut into that profitability. I hope we don't see a decrease in production values or, even worse, a loss of interest in pro gaming by the broadcasters parent companies. I have absolutely no proof, but I think OGN and MBC have been raking in too much money with ProLeague. The fact that they have accepted the offer means that there are still tons of profits to be realized even after paying the fees. The introduction of new competition can only do good for the whole e-sports community. All the companies will try to be better than others, offer more attractive features, etc. Who wins? The consumers ^^ Even if OGN and MBC give up Pro League, other companies will be able to take their place (I'm not guaranteeing it will be as good) and continue the development of e-sports. | ||
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iNcontroL
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a-game
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sure buddy, i'll build your skyscraper for 10 million bucks. with cardboard and aluminum from china! when you get fucked in the ear, you are taught that you have to fuck someone else in the ear to make up for it. it's a circle of fucking each other over, until the biggest money is in a few bits of paperwork while the actual product is as cheap as can possibly be. | ||
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Aphelion
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anch
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OGN/MBC should team with CJ media and make their own proleague. Better yet, make it the same time as the douche KeSPA and steal their ratings. | ||
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DTDominion
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On March 08 2007 17:41 infinity21 wrote: I have absolutely no proof, but I think OGN and MBC have been raking in too much money with ProLeague. The fact that they have accepted the offer means that there are still tons of profits to be realized even after paying the fees. The introduction of new competition can only do good for the whole e-sports community. All the companies will try to be better than others, offer more attractive features, etc. Who wins? The consumers ^^ Even if OGN and MBC give up Pro League, other companies will be able to take their place (I'm not guaranteeing it will be as good) and continue the development of e-sports. I don't think it's a matter of OGN and MBC making "too much profit" so much as it was their crappy negotiating position. Through slight of hand KeSPA "got the rights" to broadcast the proleague that OGN and MBC ran and then sold off those rights, and now the new company is making OGN and MBC pay to broadcast the pro league that they created and run, even if KeSPA provides more than superficial assistance. This doesn't create more competition. It puts the broadcast rights in the hands of one company who can do whatever it damn well pleases with them. The old system worked. The companies that make the tournament have incentive to do a good job broadcasting it. And with multiple tournaments each tournament creator is going to do the best tournament they can. Merging the OGN and MBC proleagues was not a good thing IMO, and now the ability to broadcast them is in the hands of one company. The consumer got fucked, hard. As did OGN, MBC, and all of pro gaming. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On March 08 2007 17:58 DTDominion wrote: I don't think it's a matter of OGN and MBC making "too much profit" so much as it was their crappy negotiating position. Through slight of hand KeSPA "got the rights" to broadcast the proleague that OGN and MBC ran and then sold off those rights, and now the new company is making OGN and MBC pay to broadcast the pro league that they created and run, even if KeSPA provides more than superficial assistance. This doesn't create more competition. It puts the broadcast rights in the hands of one company who can do whatever it damn well pleases with them. The old system worked. The companies that make the tournament have incentive to do a good job broadcasting it. And with multiple tournaments each tournament creator is going to do the best tournament they can. Merging the OGN and MBC proleagues was not a good thing IMO, and now the ability to broadcast them is in the hands of one company. The consumer got fucked, hard. As did OGN, MBC, and all of pro gaming. I'm kinda confused though. You say this will create more tournaments with companies doing the best they can but it won't create competition between each other? Could you clear that bit up? I'm also unclear of the amount of power that KeSPA has over ProLeague, OGN and MBC. Maybe that's why I'm supportive of this idea. Can other companies just create their own league and broadcast it on TV without the consent of KeSPA? | ||
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neSix
United States1772 Posts
On March 08 2007 15:21 Wasabi wrote: I'm one of those furious fans. The folks at KeSPA are selling something they didn't put as much effort to compared to the broadcasters. Proleague became possible and has grown thanks to OGN and MBC. Remember, Proleague used to not count for KeSPA points. Now if the proteams didn't team up with KeSPA, Proleague would still be possible, it just wouldn't count for anything... So in summary (NWS) + Show Spoiler + KESPA asked if they can cum in OGN/MBC's pussy, if not neither of them can have an orgasm and KeSPA pulls out and cum on OGN and MBC's faces anyway. Yeah, umm... Something like that. :| Good to hear things will be better, but sucks to hear OGN/MBC get boned for it. GG | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21550 Posts
On March 08 2007 17:58 DTDominion wrote: I don't think it's a matter of OGN and MBC making "too much profit" so much as it was their crappy negotiating position. Through slight of hand KeSPA "got the rights" to broadcast the proleague that OGN and MBC ran and then sold off those rights, and now the new company is making OGN and MBC pay to broadcast the pro league that they created and run, even if KeSPA provides more than superficial assistance. This doesn't create more competition. It puts the broadcast rights in the hands of one company who can do whatever it damn well pleases with them. The old system worked. The companies that make the tournament have incentive to do a good job broadcasting it. And with multiple tournaments each tournament creator is going to do the best tournament they can. Merging the OGN and MBC proleagues was not a good thing IMO, and now the ability to broadcast them is in the hands of one company. The consumer got fucked, hard. As did OGN, MBC, and all of pro gaming. According to the IEG guy, "KeSPA is and has been in charge of Proleague for awhile." As I understand it, based on the FiFo translations and the news thread: MBC and OGN had their own team leagues. They merged to form MBC and OGN are both represented on KeSPA's board. KeSPA is not stealing from them. They objected because they didn't like the idea of paying for what they've been getting for free. Now the league (run by KeSPA) is fully independent of the broadcasters (and their respective pro teams), which makes everything more "professional". The compromise they agreed to is that MBC and OGN will now pay for broadcasting rights, but they are guaranteed to be the primary Proleague broadcasters for the next 3 years. | ||
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[Carlodajin]
Peru306 Posts
No surprise if KeSPA appears in popular Tournaments and Finals. | ||
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