If anyone can confirm/disprove these rumors (going around on ygosu, pgr, etc), it would be much appreciated. It seems like serious stuff.
The following is not a quote. It is merely a summary of the various rumors I've been hearing/reading online.
Kongdoo, a company founded by the one and only YellOw, represents a number of pro gamers who stream on Afreeca. Apparently, the story is that Kongdoo is going to hold a BW league with 16 players (let's call it KSL). This was hinted at during the special event match in Busan. Bisu has said that he will participate in this league.
Bisu is not the main focus here since he had already ruled out his participation in SSL10 long before Kongdoo got the ball rolling. However, what is problematic is that HiyA, herO, Movie, and Sea (heavy hitters who are all represented by Kongdoo) have supposedly announced that they will not participate in SSL10 because of conflicts with KSL. ZerO supposedly will participate in both. In fact, it is rumored that the long list of players represented by Kongdoo will mostly opt out of SSL10.
Sonic has hinted in his recent posts that many SSL9 participants will not be back for SSL10... So there is reason to believe that this is not just a rumor.
This is quite shocking because SSL10 will be broadcast on Ongamenet. It gives the league the cachet and prestige of an OSL.
Here's where the conspiracy theories abound. Kongdoo is sponsored by HungryAppTV (which you may have noticed from the recent event matches). The planned 16-player KSL will be sponsored by HungryAppTV. HungryAppTV is a direct competitor of Ongamenet. See where this is going? Not good.
HiyA has supposedly claimed that there was no pressure from Kongdoo. However, they don't need to exert pressure. All Kongdoo has to do is create schedule conflicts (or even just schedule uncertainty by not communicating with Sonic), which will make it optimal for some players to choose one league.
This is creating some fracture in the BW community because it appears (who knows what's true) as if, on the eve of BW's glorious return to Ongamenet, Kongdoo is playing the fly in the ointment.
Man, this is the worst time to have drama/conflicts like this.
I hope they just stay as rumors and a compromise is reached. Interesting enough, Kongdoo is now a third player in holding BW events? Combined with Sonic and LoveTV, it certainly looks like we won't have a shortage of BW events in 2015.
If nothing else, I'm glad this revelation is still just a rumor, and Korean netizens are, more often than not, incorrect...
The post-KeSPA BW scene, as it stands, is already quite small (money, number of players, fans), so why fracture it further with such conflicts? If these speculations are true, it just reminds me of the Blizzard/KeSPA conflict, with money at the center of everything. Unless Kongdoo/Yellow is forecasting some explosive growth in sponsorship/interest in the game, it just seems silly to duke it out with Sonic and impede the game's growth at this stage in the resurgence
If "KSL" really gets announced, I would expect Kongdoo to endure a substantial Korean/K-netizen backlash, perhaps even boycott. Kongdoo would be forced to postpone/re-schedule, thus enabling those players to participate in SSL 10
As Sonic asked, wait for the announcement on friday and then discuss things. Hiya's girlfriend has been busy making Sonic cheerfuls so I'd be very surprised if he didn't play. That leaves us with like 2-3 players not participating? What would be the meaning of such obstructions? Sounds pretty dumb to me, although hungry app did seem to just do stuff whenever sonic had something going in the past few months. Wait till Friday, then we'll know more. It's not that long is it?
Great, that's the last thing we need. Why would YellOw participate in this fruitless bickering?? Of all people, he should want to do what's best for the scene rather than himself in the short term, rather than risk damaging the scene once again.
On December 10 2014 18:16 ImbaTosS wrote: Great, that's the last thing we need. Why would YellOw participate in this fruitless bickering?? Of all people, he should want to do what's best for the scene rather than himself in the short term, rather than risk damaging the scene once again.
hopefully yellow isnt behind all of this. but i agree with what other people have said above, why dont they go back to an OSL/MSL system? that would be best for business and the fans at once.
This smacks of the same kind of conflict KeSPA had with the broadcasters a few years back, where one party had the players (was paying them and could forbid them to play), and the other party was organizing and broadcasting the competitions.
I really hope this gets solved before it even starts. One thing I don't get, though, is why nobody even expects Bisu to play. He said at the end of SSL9 that he's done with competitions, but since then he has participated in a few events, and now there's talk of him participating in the KSL. What's up with that?
To my surprise I find that, despite having been a Bisu fan for years, I would side with Sonic if it comes to a conflict. I think Sonic is far, far more important for the future of Starcraft, since he actually cares about the next generation of players as well, an doesn't just try to milk the fame of the legends. As far as I'm concerned, he could run the SSL10 with nothing but amateur players, and I'd still watch it.
How can there be a schedule conflict if Sonic and OGN have not even announced when the matches will be played?
-.- I am pretty sure it will be fine. KSL sounds like a very short event. I am very skeptical HungryApp would be trying to hurt OSL at this stage in BW. Both leagues will basically serve as advertisements for the other. There is so little StarCraft going around they don't have to compete at all, because fans will watch both.
If they are not participating, it is probably for other reasons. Lots of them are due for military service, no? Or they might not feel they can put in the dedication right now that is worthy of TV. It could be lots of reasons, but HungryApp making things difficult is probably not one of them imo.
Somewhere, in a secret KeSPA meeting room, there are shadowy men cackling as they anticipate the day when Brood War fans beg to be let back into their iron grip.
Hungryapps/Kongdoo is first out the door with the schedule, so it makes Sonic look bad if SSL10 scheduling comes out later and they're on overlapping dates
Perhaps Sonic/OGN can schedule for weekdays only to avoid any conflicts
Drama Drama Drama.... mmmm........ I don't really believe this is going to be as big of a conflict as your all making it out to be really, we are talking about YELLOW here, All of these top notch people Love BW and will do what is best for it i'm sure. I'm sure that all of these things will work out in the end, we need more BW not less BW.
On December 11 2014 09:13 BigFan wrote: This is just so stupid. I hope these rumours don't come true. The scene is still in recovery mode and yet we seem to have a fight already :/
On December 11 2014 07:19 BisuDagger wrote: Nothing but good news if Bisu is playing in another league.
only a Bisu fan will see this as good news lol.
no need to overreact here, I'm sure sonic and yellow will work out the scheduling issues, also its not as if these guys who were all progamers and big A-teamers especially sea who was MBC's ace never had days where they had to play both proleague and then run to another studio to play an individual league, so its not so much a date issue, but time of day.
On December 10 2014 18:47 GeLaar wrote: I really hope this gets solved before it even starts. One thing I don't get, though, is why nobody even expects Bisu to play. He said at the end of SSL9 that he's done with competitions, but since then he has participated in a few events, and now there's talk of him participating in the KSL. What's up with that?
To my surprise I find that, despite having been a Bisu fan for years, I would side with Sonic if it comes to a conflict. I think Sonic is far, far more important for the future of Starcraft, since he actually cares about the next generation of players as well, an doesn't just try to milk the fame of the legends. As far as I'm concerned, he could run the SSL10 with nothing but amateur players, and I'd still watch it.
The difference though is that Bisu is sponsored by Kongdoo and so was probably pushed into playing this, most likely by contract. The bigger leagues with A LOT more pressure, like Sonic's, are on a different level to the games he has been playing as well. He said he was over the preparation and stress, something that isn't as big a of a deal for little 8 man events etc. Who knows, maybe he really is at the end of his time with BW (for now?) and is looking at the military.. so the people paying him want to get a little more from him before he quits.
I never knew Kongdoo is YellOw's company. What do they do?
Personally, I think all parties will come to agreement. I think the major obstacle with this is the lack of [sponsored] teams. People can't practice for all 3 leagues (SSL, LSL and KSL) without some kind of financial support because there's no sure bet that you'll get a podium spot (maybe unless you're Bisu, Killer etc) + Show Spoiler +
Kongdoo organizes esports events, supports and promotes bjs, steals players from other leagues etc. I am of course only joking in the last point. Or am I?
On December 11 2014 18:03 c3rberUs wrote: I never knew Kongdoo is YellOw's company. What do they do?
Personally, I think all parties will come to agreement. I think the major obstacle with this is the lack of [sponsored] teams. People can't practice for all 3 leagues (SSL, LSL and KSL) without some kind of financial support because there's no sure bet that you'll get a podium spot (maybe unless you're Bisu, Killer etc) + Show Spoiler +
god damnit why did i even click that spoiler when i knew what was gonna be in it LOL
On December 11 2014 05:55 prech wrote: Hungryapps/Kongdoo is first out the door with the schedule, so it makes Sonic look bad if SSL10 scheduling comes out later and they're on overlapping dates
Perhaps Sonic/OGN can schedule for weekdays only to avoid any conflicts
Well, Sonic may look bad if that happens but it won't be his fault. 1) OGN has its main LOL programming on Wednesdays and Fridays. That's their main money-maker. I don't think SSL is going to take over those spots. Furthermore, OGN's Yongsan live event facilities will be occupied on those days. 2) With offline leagues, you need people to attend the events in person. Most people are only going to be able to attend on Friday evening through Sunday.
Let's not forget that SSL10 must be a success commercially (and therefore in terms of viewership) in order for OGN to keep broadcasting BW. This isn't just about this iteration of the league.
Once Sonic got OGN involved, his hands were effectively tied with regards to the schedule. The only question is whether they will be able to delay SSL until the end of the Kongdoo/HungryApp league.
As many others have suggested, I am also eagerly awaiting Sonic's announcements on the actual schedule... The rumors are scary, but we know very little for sure at the moment.
if some players can play in both events, why cant all them all in both??? unless its groups stage conflicts on different days but those havnt even been announced yet right? (plus rearranging those matchs shouldnt be too bad) I guess theres the other thing of wanting to focus on the matchup/player ur going to be playing
Some good updates on the rumor front: The latest is that everyone other thanBisu and Sea will be in SSL10. The player pool will likely be very respectable if that's true.
It seems believable since HiyA recently said on stream that he will participate because Kongdoo was getting slammed online and Killer posted a message saying that he would be in SSL10.
The other rumor that is being repeated a lot now is that Sonic and Kongdoo/HungryApp were originally working on SSL10 together but Sonic had to drop Kongdoo/HungryApp after his shot in the dark at an OGN broadcast was unexpectedly successful. Kongdoo/HungryApp was supposedly pissed since HungryApp is trying to break into the space that OGN is currently occupying, but the two parties eventually decided just to run two separate leagues.
That rumor seems somewhat puzzling. I'm inclined to be skeptical. Sonic has been broadcasting with OGN employees Lee Seung-won, Kim Carry, and Um Jaegyung since the Sbenu Proleague (which preceded SSL9). Sonic has said before that Kim Carry was instrumental in getting OGN on board for SSL10. Some them even participated in SSL9 despite the fact that they're OGN employees. As far as I know, they're not freelancers. It almost makes me suspect that OGN was feeling out how much of a potential market there might still be for BW. If HungryApp was working with Sonic all this time, then why weren't their broadcasting talent made available to SonicTV?
Unfortunately, given that Sonic has delayed his announcements on SSL10, we will have to wait a little longer to learn what's going on.
A bit surprised Sea potentially wouldn't be participating. If the Kongdoo vs Sonic dispute holds true, I hope Kongdoo doesn't exert their influence to dissuade others to not participate in SSL 10. The list of Kongdoo-represented active players includes, as far as I see from their website, Bisu, Sea, Jaehoon, Shuttle, Movie, Mong, HiyA, hero, ZerO, and Killer
Just checking out Ygosu and Pgr21, some really lively discussion/speculation going on, although Google Translate can't make out a good 75% of the posts
Eh, I just wish current conflict to be resolved without much fanfare soon, who wants drama? Hope we can get some concrete info. It alao might have been better for Sonic to withhold this pandora's box until the player roster reveal, what did he really expect or was he trying to incite netizens for his advantage? If so, current speculation is destroying him. Most Korean posts are against SSL and should this rumour be true will be disaster - even if it is false, that still means "netizen" witch hunt likely pivot to Kongdoo again, horrifyingly bad situation for the scene.
On December 13 2014 10:25 Hesmyrr wrote: Eh, I just wish current conflict to be resolved without much fanfare soon, who wants drama? Hope we can get some concrete info. It alao might have been better for Sonic to withhold this pandora's box until the player roster reveal, what did he really expect or was he trying to incite netizens for his advantage? If so, current speculation is destroying him. Most Korean posts are against SSL and should this rumour be true will be disaster - even if it is false, that still means "netizen" witch hunt likely pivot to Kongdoo again, horrifyingly bad situation for the scene.
Well, we don't want drama, but the trolls crawling the Korean interwebs certainly do. I'd like to think that they're just a vocal minority. It's certainly the case on Sonic's Afreeca page. The same handful of troublemaker IDs insulting Sonic for "making a mockery of the viewers" by repeatedly delaying the league. Not even for possible schedule conflicts, but merely for delaying!!! The prior delays freaking brought BW back to OGN for xxxxs sake. I cannot possibly attribute such comments to sane people.
Didn't see him mentioned anywhere personally apart from a few sad fans' cries. No updates on his facebook or afreeca. Sonic said he has always been able to pull out cards noone has even thought of, could one of those be Jangbi?
On December 13 2014 16:51 Stratos wrote: Jangbi's Last stream: 2014-10-07 14:19
Didn't see him mentioned anywhere personally apart from a few sad fans' cries. No updates on his facebook or afreeca. Sonic said he has always been able to pull out cards noone has even thought of, could one of those be Jangbi?
Thanks for checking!
Would indeed be a nice ace card... attempt to redeem himself a bit after SSL 9
On December 13 2014 10:25 Hesmyrr wrote: Eh, I just wish current conflict to be resolved without much fanfare soon, who wants drama? Hope we can get some concrete info. It alao might have been better for Sonic to withhold this pandora's box until the player roster reveal, what did he really expect or was he trying to incite netizens for his advantage? If so, current speculation is destroying him. Most Korean posts are against SSL and should this rumour be true will be disaster - even if it is false, that still means "netizen" witch hunt likely pivot to Kongdoo again, horrifyingly bad situation for the scene.
Well, we don't want drama, but the trolls crawling the Korean interwebs certainly do. I'd like to think that they're just a vocal minority. It's certainly the case on Sonic's Afreeca page. The same handful of troublemaker IDs insulting Sonic for "making a mockery of the viewers" by repeatedly delaying the league. Not even for possible schedule conflicts, but merely for delaying!!! The prior delays freaking brought BW back to OGN for xxxxs sake. I cannot possibly attribute such comments to sane people.
those progamers are short-sighted if they decide to play the kongdoo league instead of the league broadcast on ongamenet...they might get more cash in the short term, but it'd be very damaging to BW in the long term if sonic's league got cancelled.
That rumor seems somewhat puzzling. I'm inclined to be skeptical.
I think there might just be a difference between a rumour and bald uninformed speculation of some person on the internet. Like a rumour is something where a fact that can't be verified is revealed, like a friend of a friend on the inside said some thing is the case (but that person can't be revealed, or it's only an anecdote).
This sounds like someone just saying things that might be true, in basically the same way conspiracy theorists say things that might be true (but have no basis in reported evidence). I think we can do without translations and reports of the latter lol. Even rumours are borderline worthless.
That rumor seems somewhat puzzling. I'm inclined to be skeptical.
I think there might just be a difference between a rumour and bald uninformed speculation of some person on the internet. Like a rumour is something where a fact that can't be verified is revealed, like a friend of a friend on the inside said some thing is the case (but that person can't be revealed, or it's only an anecdote).
This sounds like someone just saying things that might be true, in basically the same way conspiracy theorists say things that might be true (but have no basis in reported evidence). I think we can do without translations and reports of the latter lol. Even rumours are borderline worthless.
Yea , this seems like a bunch of non koreans trying to use google translate / body language to figure out what the Koreans are doing. I honestly think all the EX BW Pro gamers understand / know a little more about what is going on than we do, and I honestly think they love the game just as much / more than we do, so it would be a little illogical on there part to do anything to hurt BW especially in the current state it is in now.
I think all of these top tier BW players get along with each other in the long run, and they are a lot more tightly knit than Korean SC2 I feel, so in the end I think they all want what is best for BW.
well, this is the 32 man bracket from the amateur qualifier as best as I can tell
in the daum cafe (http://cafe.daum.net/sonicama) it's the most recent post (12/14) and the post before that says that like 200 people sent in the application (if google translate serves me well) for the 128 man qualifier
I see no noticeable names on that list, and I actually don't know how many are supposed to qualify from the 128 man team (bracket obviously generated out to last round)
do we actually know if it is limited to 32 people for ssl 10? Just theorycrafting, but the past few "major" tournaments (ssl 9, lovetv starleague s2, most recent 41 starleague season 2) still have ~4-6 "lesser" name players, amateurs even. The point being that I don't recognize any ex-pros in that bracket, and there are potentially a lot of people that could be given an invite once you get to that 24-28 invites needed range. For example, the just announced 41 starleague s3 has people like lazy/cola/icarus that have been around for a while but I could easily see be left out of the "invite" pool. I suppose anyone could have lost in the qualifiers though. [Ninja edit--my question being OSL used to have ro36, then had dual tournaments. Is it possible for ssl10 to have staggered invite, i.e. some straight to the group stage]
Sidenote: how many pOse's are there? I guess he's the organizer of 41 starleague but people seem to copy his id lol. I guess I have heard of olympus/one of the pOse's from previous sonic starleagues (7-9) and looking up olympus he had been in the sonic proleague thing.
Looks like things just wrapped up, with [NeOx]SSaL victorious. I imagine Olympus, Mighty, and other previous SSL participants were notified they weren't selected for the final field, so felt encumbered to go through these qualifiers...
By.Spire winning, cool shit I love that funky guy! I sure recognize some names up there from the clanleagues.
A 'fun fact' is that a guy behind a pretty famous BW Revival page on facebook also tried his luck. He reported his run into the Ro32, where he sadly lost -[NeOx]donghwani.
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Quick and dirty translation:
This is BJ Sonic. Despite the absence of official word from SonicTV or HungryApp, rumors from third parties have been spread as if they were true. HungryAppTV has directly posted a reply in the threads.
Hello, this is HungryApp. We would like to inform you that SonicTV and HungryAppTV are currently cooperating to make both leagues a success and the above posts have no relation with HungrayApp. Both companies will try hard to make both starleagues awesome. Please cheer us on.
There was nothing for me to explain in the first place. I never posted a reply or even spoke about this matter. I hope that people will stop talking about these rumors as if they were true. I will put a lot of effort into making this starleague a success. Thank you.
So it seems like good news. If Sonic and HungryApp are working together as Sonic says, then schedule conflicts may not be an issue.
Just to give Sonic's message more context, there were many posts made by someone claiming to have inside information that Sonic had stabbed HungryApp in the back.
Recently, Sea spoke on stream and said that other than himself and Bisu, all the progamers we care about will play in SSL10. Sea was not forthcoming about his own motivations for doing so, but this is still good news because it means that all the other top players will still be there. He also claimed that Pusan and Jaehoon were not invited.
Jaehoon was twice caught cheating during sponsored matches by watching the streams by using his phone, which earned him the nicknames sharingan and "Ma Jaehoon". It may be the case that Sonic and OGN are excluding any players who might give the league bad publicity. Sonic had previously confirmed here that Terror and Jaehoon were not invited. The news didn't get much play here, but, during his ban from Afreeca, Terror was caught on stream being a sales agent for illegal betting sites. Given how serious that stuff is, I think we can understand why excluding Terror is a good idea. Terror fans have been spamming various Afreeca pages trying to badger Sonic into including him over the last month.
Thanks for the updates guys!!! Its a bit of a shame that Bisu and Sea are not going to SSL 10. Also PuSan has a family now, so its really understandable.
On another note, Jaehoon, why did you do that? wtf..
On December 16 2014 06:16 L_Master wrote: Wow fuckin lame about Jaehoon, always liked that guy. Not so much anymore if thats true, and it sounds pretty damn confirmed
There's a summary of it on ygosu, but the gist of it is this: There are photos of Jaehoon being logged onto his opponents' streams. Here is an example from the ygosu thread. It is a photo of Mind's stream. Jaehoon's ID is rlawogns019. The square-shaped icon next to his ID in the photo indicates that he is logged in via mobile phone. Ironically, one of his super fans (top 10 balloon donor) was the one who exposed it. A quick perusal of the relevant sites indicates that he issued a public apology on stream. The game against Mind seems to have occurred early this year, but I can't seem to track down the date. Jaehoon's absence from Afreeca for sometime could potentially be attributed to the incident.
Sad to hear about Bisu and Sea and Pusan not participating. But it'll be cool to see everyone else duke it out. I guess the main question is whether Movie can pull himself together and beat Hero this time.
On December 16 2014 06:16 L_Master wrote: Wow fuckin lame about Jaehoon, always liked that guy. Not so much anymore if thats true, and it sounds pretty damn confirmed
There's a summary of it on ygosu, but the gist of it is this: There are photos of Jaehoon being logged onto his opponents' streams. Here is an example from the ygosu thread. It is a photo of Mind's stream. Jaehoon's ID is rlawogns019. The square-shaped icon next to his ID in the photo indicates that he is logged in via mobile phone. Ironically, one of his super fans (top 10 balloon donor) was the one who exposed it. A quick perusal of the relevant sites indicates that he issued a public apology on stream. The game against Mind seems to have occurred early this year, but I can't seem to track down the date. Jaehoon's absence from Afreeca for sometime could potentially be attributed to the incident.
Wasn't he also shown to have his phone setup under his monitor? Moved his webcam around after a game and for a second you could see his phone with afreeca running.
Come to think of it, I can't remember 100% if it was Jaehoon now.. Can't help but think it was a Z player but I'm not sure many people have been busted for cheating like this..
Ah ok. Well that's just another nail in the coffin for Terror, but it's perfectly understandable for Jaehoon as well. It's nice to see Sonic is relying on the popularity of BW for the leagues success, rather than caving and doing what will guarantee the most viewers, at least in the short term.
Okay, based on the information that has been publicly released so far, the following seems to be the tentative schedule. The distance between the OGN and Hungry App venues is 30~40 minutes by public transport according to Google. Some of the matches are held on the same days, but SSL games will take place much earlier in the day. Also, since there are 2 days/week per league there is room to prevent same-day travel as much as possible.
It looks like the players will be able to play in both leagues. Glad to see that things have been worked out.
On December 18 2014 14:04 lemmata wrote: Okay, based on the information that has been publicly released so far, the following seems to be the tentative schedule. The distance between the OGN and Hungry App venues is 30~40 minutes by public transport according to Google. Some of the matches are held on the same days, but SSL games will take place much earlier in the day. Also, since there are 2 days/week per league there is room to prevent same-day travel as much as possible.
It looks like the players will be able to play in both leagues. Glad to see that things have been worked out.
Interesting, thanks for sharing this.
I guess we'll never know the role of politics, and perhaps personal reasons, players will have for not playing both. Even a top player will need to stream quite a bit for balloon donations to make up for the $25,000 first prize (or thereabouts)
On December 15 2014 03:32 Stratos wrote: By.Spire winning, cool shit I love that funky guy! I sure recognize some names up there from the clanleagues.
A 'fun fact' is that a guy behind a pretty famous BW Revival page on facebook also tried his luck. He reported his run into the Ro32, where he sadly lost -[NeOx]donghwani.
pOse is just a clan btw.
here's [NeOx]donghwani's FPV from the Ro64, Set 1, if anyone's interested maybe to get a at least a step closer to getting a general sense of the level of competition there. ^^
On December 20 2014 02:22 Stratos wrote: here's [NeOx]donghwani's FPV from the Ro64, Set 1, if anyone's interested maybe to get a at least a step closer to getting a general sense of the level of competition there. ^^
I am glad that By.Spire got to win this tournament, remembering him being one of my favourite SOSPA zergs, alongside Beast, Zilot and Cola, I just hope korean BroodWar semi-pros and amateurs (in opposite to ex-progamers) get more chance to play in upcoming events.
On December 15 2014 03:32 Stratos wrote: By.Spire winning, cool shit I love that funky guy! I sure recognize some names up there from the clanleagues.
A 'fun fact' is that a guy behind a pretty famous BW Revival page on facebook also tried his luck. He reported his run into the Ro32, where he sadly lost -[NeOx]donghwani.
pOse is just a clan btw.
here's [NeOx]donghwani's FPV from the Ro64, Set 1, if anyone's interested maybe to get a at least a step closer to getting a general sense of the level of competition there. ^^
Thanks for sharing
Impressive mechanics by Zerg with the Protoss contain that lasted most of the game, warded off some shuttle drops. Overall a bit slower in expanding, but still nicely played. Spire, and whomever many other amateurs advancing,, would do well against the likes of out-of-practice progamers like Tossgirl
EPT
YellOw, represents a number of pro gamers who stream on Afreeca. Apparently, the story is that Kongdoo is going to hold a BW league with 16 players (let's call it KSL). This was hinted at during the special event match in Busan. 
Bisu has said that he will participate in this league.
HiyA, 
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[NeOx]SSaL victorious. I imagine ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OOfNELk.png)
Bisu and 
Sea are not going to SSL 10. Also 
