This is so sick.
That Live Stream list is long as it is at 9 pm in Korea :O
Well this should make snipealot a LOT easier from now on...
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
This is so sick. That Live Stream list is long as it is at 9 pm in Korea :O Well this should make snipealot a LOT easier from now on... | ||
remag
Germany354 Posts
So now we are also contributing directly to the viewer count of afreeca? | ||
HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On October 24 2014 20:57 remag wrote: Holy shit, what just happened. So now we are also contributing directly to the viewer account of afreeca? Yes BW3.0 here we go. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
Slowly... | ||
sickkungen
Sweden179 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
Brood War 3.0 ![]() R1CH is the best :D (right on time for Terror's return lol) | ||
sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On October 24 2014 21:32 purakushi wrote: (right on time for Terror's return lol) the horrors ![]() ALL PRAISE THE WIZARD R1CH! | ||
atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
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flashimba
225 Posts
Only thing I miss is the ability to chat to other stream watchers. | ||
lantz
United States762 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
sickkungen
Sweden179 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:00 flashimba wrote: Loving the sidebar! THANKS! Only thing I miss is the ability to chat to other stream watchers. Yes, I agree. The proposition of making snipealot2 the official stream chat for any stream is quite good I think. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote: lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!! You can always hide the streams through user options if you dislike it. I did that for sc2 ![]() Also those are not even the final view count. There's at least a thousand to 2 thousand China restream viewers depending on the players online. | ||
HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote: lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!! Yeah, just like how the 5 Gods of Melee are those who couldn't succeed at Brawl right? | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O | ||
HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote: That is really awesome. But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW. Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing. Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list. Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak. Be patient. | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote: That is really awesome. But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW. Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing. Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list. Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak. Be patient. edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work! | ||
Chef
10810 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
The fact BW can still retain quite an audience after 15 years shows it strong legacy. Very few other games can say the same. | ||
HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote: On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote: That is really awesome. But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW. Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing. Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list. Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak. Be patient. edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work! Too scared to face the truth? Before you judge others with your narrow minded perception, take a good look at yourself in the mirror. | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On October 24 2014 23:03 HyralGambit wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2014 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote: On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote: That is really awesome. But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW. Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing. Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list. Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak. Be patient. edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work! Too scared to face the truth? Before you judge others with your narrow minded perception, take a good look at yourself in the mirror. You are unbelievable, i am sad that you seem to be the "new face" of BW on reddit and here, not good for potential new viewers at all. back to lurking, you alone are reason enough to never post here as someone who doesn't know the same things as the hardcore fans, kinda sad tbh | ||
amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
I don't really know a lot about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the regular numbers for most of them are what they look like now. Less than 100. They have too much competition with each other, most of their audience are adults with other things to do, and they stream for several hours a day. The situation is that they're streaming from their parents houses while biding their time for military (this I do know, since three top players said it in an interview). The only times you're going to see big numbers is during a big show match or in SSL or something like that. It'll be interesting to see what kind of viewership a tournament like LoveTV or SSL are really getting when they start up. That should be prime time and give a better idea of who is still watching BW. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6578 Posts
On October 24 2014 23:03 HyralGambit wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2014 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote: On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote: That is really awesome. But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW. Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing. Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list. Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak. Be patient. edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work! Too scared to face the truth? Before you judge others with your narrow minded perception, take a good look at yourself in the mirror. calm down a bit -_- | ||
HyralGambit
2439 Posts
Love to chat, but there's Brood War work to be done. One step at a time. | ||
amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On October 24 2014 23:41 HyralGambit wrote: Still missing a few players from LSL3 and top Fish ladder players like Last who should be added. GJ and ty R1CH once again, I'll send you an updated list maybe later. Love to chat, but there's Brood War work to be done. One step at a time. Dude, you're getting overzealous about the revival of BW. BW doesn't need to be back to its OGN/MBC glory days for the bw community to enjoy. You can't force people to like it; and besides that, those who will enjoy BW will naturally gravitate towards BW itself (whether through featured news or the stream sidebar). I'm already quite happy with the state of BW right now (is not having LoveSL3 and SSL 10 already enough for ya?) | ||
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
Nice new feature. Thanks. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 24 2014 23:03 HyralGambit wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2014 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote: On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote: That is really awesome. But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW. Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing. Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list. Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak. Be patient. edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work! Too scared to face the truth? Before you judge others with your narrow minded perception, take a good look at yourself in the mirror. I think you should consider being more welcoming and patient (see how that works both ways?) with newcomers instead of being so needlessly hostile to everyone that says something you think might somehow be interpreted as an attack on Brood War. He asked a legitimate question, you could have answered it as a knowledgable veteran instead of coming across like a dick. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6578 Posts
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia9499 Posts
On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ? ![]() Of course your stream is still featured. You're too gosu not to be featured. | ||
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ? ![]() Just the restreams were taken off the featured streaming list for now to remove clutter. Other streams (yours included here) were not taken off. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6578 Posts
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On October 25 2014 00:14 Epoxide wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ? ![]() Just the restreams were taken off the featured streaming list for now to remove clutter. Other streams (yours included here) were not taken off. Hmmm the main purpose of the restreams was to give people a place to chat (ala twitch chat). the only disadvantage of the afreeca streams now are that theres no place for english speakers to chat. I don't necessarily agree with unfeaturing the snipe streams, but I can see why you would want to do that. Now, as for clutter itself, perhaps add sub groups to the sidebar to separate by race? (since it's obvious what race people are). Also, maybe start advertising the #tl-bw irc chat so that people at least have a place to speak and finally, for the BW events that will be listed, which streams are going to be listed (restreams or direct feed?)? | ||
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On October 25 2014 00:20 amazingxkcd wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2014 00:14 Epoxide wrote: On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ? ![]() Just the restreams were taken off the featured streaming list for now to remove clutter. Other streams (yours included here) were not taken off. Hmmm the main purpose of the restreams was to give people a place to chat (ala twitch chat). the only disadvantage of the afreeca streams now are that theres no place for english speakers to chat. I don't necessarily agree with unfeaturing the snipe streams, but I can see why you would want to do that. Now, as for clutter itself, perhaps add sub groups to the sidebar to separate by race? (since it's obvious what race people are). Also, maybe start advertising the #tl-bw irc chat so that people at least have a place to speak and finally, for the BW events that will be listed, which streams are going to be listed (restreams or direct feed?)? I haven't been involved in any of this so I can't answer most stuff. There is however already a feature where you can sort streams by race (and remove race icons): http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/sidebars.php | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
FYI guys, the viewership numbers on the sidebar are not indicative of the entire audience watching atm. For instance, on the sidebar it says HiyA only has 69 viewers, but according to the Afreeca player, it shows him w/ ~700 viewers (afreeca player + mobile app) atm. I suspect they are keeping the two numbers separate for whatever reason. I am also not sure if this will be a permanent thing. I hope the number of streams included on the sidebar is expanded .. I'd love to see DoE included, he's probably my favorite streamer nowadays. | ||
Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On October 25 2014 00:25 ArvickHero wrote: huh, well I'll be damned .. FYI guys, the viewership numbers on the sidebar are not indicative of the entire audience watching atm. For instance, on the sidebar it says HiyA only has 69 viewers, but according to the Afreeca player, it shows him w/ ~700 viewers (afreeca player + mobile app) atm. I suspect they are keeping the two numbers separate for whatever reason. I am also not sure if this will be a permanent thing. I hope the number of streams included on the sidebar is expanded .. I'd love to see DoE included, he's probably my favorite streamer nowadays. Hmm I see him with 600 players now, 700 half an hour back. Maybe just a random bug? | ||
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia9499 Posts
On October 25 2014 00:20 amazingxkcd wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2014 00:14 Epoxide wrote: On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ? ![]() Just the restreams were taken off the featured streaming list for now to remove clutter. Other streams (yours included here) were not taken off. Hmmm the main purpose of the restreams was to give people a place to chat (ala twitch chat). the only disadvantage of the afreeca streams now are that theres no place for english speakers to chat. I don't necessarily agree with unfeaturing the snipe streams, but I can see why you would want to do that. Now, as for clutter itself, perhaps add sub groups to the sidebar to separate by race? (since it's obvious what race people are). Also, maybe start advertising the #tl-bw irc chat so that people at least have a place to speak and finally, for the BW events that will be listed, which streams are going to be listed (restreams or direct feed?)? I agree that it sucks that there's no centralized place for people to discuss BW streams. I would be all for #tl-bw irc to take that place. For now we have only added LoveTV and SonicTV streams for events. | ||
DjKniteX
United States238 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Shuttle snipealot: Shuttle But at the same time it makes it a little less likely for chat. I guess the best way to do it as a community that I can think of is watch on snipealot if the player you're interested in is on, if not on snipe and you want to watch someone different then watch the afreeca direct feed. | ||
L_Master
United States8017 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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HerbMon
United States460 Posts
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juvenal
2448 Posts
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Sero
United States692 Posts
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broodwar2.0
Niue229 Posts
we should really keep snipealot streams in the spotlight this way its sortof ''hurting'' the twitch sc/bw community ie folks who join the twitch chat asking how to get on broodwar or iccup serv etc.. | ||
R1CH
Netherlands10340 Posts
On October 25 2014 02:17 Sero wrote: Most of the streams that are listed for me right now are actually offline. This was a bug, it's fixed now. | ||
Sero
United States692 Posts
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On October 25 2014 00:20 amazingxkcd wrote: Hmmm the main purpose of the restreams was to give people a place to chat (ala twitch chat). the only disadvantage of the afreeca streams now are that theres no place for english speakers to chat. I don't necessarily agree with unfeaturing the snipe streams, but I can see why you would want to do that. On October 25 2014 01:31 L_Master wrote: Yea, I'm torn. On the one hand it doesn't make a ton of sense to have: Shuttle snipealot: Shuttle But at the same time it makes it a little less likely for chat. I guess the best way to do it as a community that I can think of is watch on snipealot if the player you're interested in is on, if not on snipe and you want to watch someone different then watch the afreeca direct feed. On October 25 2014 02:23 broodwar2.0 wrote: this is a awesome feature love the look of it but you guys gotta work out a way to fit in snipealot channels (maybe different category restreams w/e) since it its a place where you can discuss/watch streams easily with guaranteed no buffering we should really keep snipealot streams in the spotlight this way its sortof ''hurting'' the twitch sc/bw community ie folks who join the twitch chat asking how to get on broodwar or iccup serv etc.. Agree wholeheartedly, I'd also really like to see the snipealot streams either featured or in a featured sub-group. Anyone could watch the streams with Livestreamer or Afreeca Player for the past few years, but it was the snipealot Twitch chats that really enabled the social interaction and sense of community. There's a lot more activation energy required to get folks to install/use an IRC client or webchat than simply using Twitch | ||
vanatir
Germany355 Posts
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yukidesu
51 Posts
hope they will be added soon | ||
Fazers
735 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On October 25 2014 03:50 yukidesu wrote: there are still some bj's missing like: free, mini, last, guemchi, snow, sexy, sharp, beast. hope they will be added soon you can have a snipealot mod put these players on until there's support for all the players (snipealot has all streamers) | ||
vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote: lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!! User was warned for this post You are pathetic for assuming that every one wants to "succeed in sc2" Your argument fails when one considers that some korean BW experts never tried to play StarCraft 2 professionally. And even if they had, your statement would have been dumb. I tried listening to black metal. But I didn't like it, so I went back to death metal. Are you going to tell me that death metal is just for those who couldn't succeed at black metal? People explore and try various things. They don't like everything. That doesn't mean they failed. It means they tried something and realized that they didn't like it. But yes, it is indeed possible that some BW experts tried to get good at SC2, and quit SC2 when they failed. Why does that mean that we can't enjoy their BW games? Every human should contribute to humanity as a whole with what he can offer - what he is good at. If you're good at BW but bad at SC2, then you should obviously be playing Brood War and producing great Brood War games. Not trying to do something that you can't. + Show Spoiler + I'm still trying black metal. I'm not done yet. Good music takes time and effort to learn to appreciate. It just seems simplistic, which I don't like. But I haven't given up yet. | ||
chaosTheory_14cc
Canada1270 Posts
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Pino
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thezanursic
5478 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:59 Probemicro wrote: Low? Some can reach a thousand , bisu and maybe the occasional notables can reach a few thousand easily. Also theres an additional 1-2k from china restreams. Obviously they are not going to reach LOL levels of 10k+ soon. The fact BW can still retain quite an audience after 15 years shows it strong legacy. Very few other games can say the same. You have to consider the fact that Afreeca is mostly Korea only. So a 500 Afreeca viewers >>> Twitch Viewers. 500 Afreeca viewers can be a comfortable living. | ||
miercat
394 Posts
On October 24 2014 23:13 Chef wrote: + Show Spoiler + Most people aren't like Hyral. Sorry Viper. I don't really know a lot about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the regular numbers for most of them are what they look like now. Less than 100. + Show Spoiler + They have too much competition with each other, most of their audience are adults with other things to do, and they stream for several hours a day. The situation is that they're streaming from their parents houses while biding their time for military (this I do know, since three top players said it in an interview). The only times you're going to see big numbers is during a big show match or in SSL or something like that. It'll be interesting to see what kind of viewership a tournament like LoveTV or SSL are really getting when they start up. That should be prime time and give a better idea of who is still watching BW. On October 24 2014 00:19 JieXian wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2014 23:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: http://z28.imgup.net/screenb614.PNG http://z36.imgup.net/screen950f.PNG viewership graphs @@ WOW I made it so you dont need to click it: And it's been documented that there are many more BW streamers among the top viewed on Afreeca. If you don't know much about something, consider not posting uninformed opinion about it(especially when the truth is easily accessible). | ||
TelecoM
United States10671 Posts
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lemmata
468 Posts
I wonder if Afreeca has decided to provide browser-based streams in preparation for expanding its business to foreign markets. I saw the following job posting recently: + Show Spoiler + http://corp.afreecatv.com/recruit/recruit.html Seeking both those with industry experience and new graduates. Deadline: Until position is filled Position - Description: Strategic Development and Management of Servicing Foreign Areas - Locations: USA (LA), Thailand (Bangkok), Taiwan (Taipei) Responsibilities - AfreecaTV market research (foreign markets), launching/management tasks - Market research, competitor research - Develop business model and service launch plan - Build local business partnerships and identify local broadcasting talents Requirements - People living in appropriate countries or Koreans studying abroad - Dual language skills preferred (Korean+English/Thai/Chinese) - Good understanding of AfreecaTV services preferred - Computer engineering, communications/broadcasting/journalism degree holders preferred - Gaming, IT, media, broadcasting, marketing experience preferred - Someone who has no restrictions on international business travel * No discrimination based on Citizenship/Age/Gender/Degrees * Required: Name, area of residence, AfreecaTV ID, resume, self-introductory cover letter | ||
Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On October 25 2014 09:28 Shock710 wrote: that liquid'Sea tag shhhh keep it on the downlow! ![]() | ||
TelecoM
United States10671 Posts
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On October 25 2014 09:56 GGzerG wrote: That is awesome that afreeca is trying to expand to foreign places, I really hope this continues to grow in foreign places as well. Gogo afreeca! Yeah, wonder if someone can send Afreeca our thanks in Korean or something. Really show them we care ![]() | ||
shizzz
Australia127 Posts
So even though we would be doubling up on say, loveTV streams when a showmatch is on for example, it makes sense to me to have snipe2 featured and running for an easy place to gather. Also, unfortunately quite a lot of people (europe mainly from what I've seen?) are still unable to view afreeca lagfree, snipealot is still essential to those people. I propose limiting the number of afreeca restreams on the sidebar to maybe the current most popular 4-5 (or up to 8 if each stream is >3-400 viewers for when it's BW primetime in SK) so that there is space for foreign streamers, possibly having snipe2 restored to featured (though something would need to be worked out to avoid streaming double ups), as well as having a link underneath the video (alongside view on afreeca/pop out video) directing users to snipe2 chat/IRC chat if you end up leaning that way. | ||
broodwar2.0
Niue229 Posts
Great little addition, however a few important points have been brought up. Even though we have the forums, having a place to chat about streams is vital for the small community feel that surrounds (foreign) BW. I think centralising the snipe2 chat could work, though at the same time you will have a bunch of different viewers talking in a channel for another different stream. Once that ease of access suffers, we might find less and less of the few new people we get passing through to actually talk, will be visiting at all. It just seems to become difficult when you aren't chatting in a window that is linked to that stream. Honestly, maybe I'm over thinking the chat and snipe2 chat won't get too congested. yeap doesnt work chatting bout different streams in 1 chat people want to discuss whats happening on the screen with fellow viewers So even though we would be doubling up on say, loveTV streams when a showmatch is on for example, it makes sense to me to have snipe2 featured and running for an easy place to gather. Also, unfortunately quite a lot of people (europe mainly from what I've seen?) are still unable to view afreeca lagfree, snipealot is still essential to those people. that would make alot of sense aswell bvgrt and snipealol2 good places to gather and watch/chat bout ongoing LoveTV/SSL league I propose limiting the number of afreeca restreams on the sidebar to maybe the current most popular 4-5 (or up to 8 if each stream is >3-400 viewers for when it's BW primetime in SK) so that there is space for foreign streamers, possibly having snipe2 restored to featured (though something would need to be worked out to avoid streaming double ups), as well as having a link underneath the video (alongside view on afreeca/pop out video) directing users to snipe2 chat/IRC chat if you end up leaning that way. agree with this i know said it before (sorry) but its better to have snipealot2 in a prime spot on the side-bar since it keeps the twitch sc/bw community alive its essential to have a place where foreign bw fans can easily come and watch/chat bout bw to keep the foreign community strong/together | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On October 25 2014 14:31 lichter wrote: how do you reduce stream quality? I think if you install silverlight, you get HD options but I'm not sure if that gives you the ability to reduce the quality or just raise it. | ||
Rlentless
Hong Kong322 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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HeyImFinn
United States250 Posts
On October 25 2014 15:32 Shock710 wrote: O_O silverlight can do stuff, i had it install ages ago cause of a windows update and i was like wtf is this shit O_o probably useless, ignore for 2 years and now it does something :O Netflix? Joking aside, I'm stoked. I can finally watch 린아씨 live!~ ![]() | ||
Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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HeyImFinn
United States250 Posts
On October 25 2014 16:29 Shock710 wrote: netflix isnt available in australia ![]() Dude, you poor thing. | ||
kaby
Russian Federation195 Posts
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On October 25 2014 10:56 HyralGambit wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2014 09:56 GGzerG wrote: That is awesome that afreeca is trying to expand to foreign places, I really hope this continues to grow in foreign places as well. Gogo afreeca! Yeah, wonder if someone can send Afreeca our thanks in Korean or something. Really show them we care ![]() I'm sure they'll be keeping tabs on stats, so the best way to show them we're interested is to just watch. | ||
Chef
10810 Posts
If you don't know much about something, consider not posting uninformed opinion about it(especially when the truth is easily accessible). "The truth" is missing lots of important details, like what "Total" includes. In any case, it looks like Total - Bisu + Terror frequently doesn't get much more than 5k combined. So LoveTV and all the other competitions, maybe, then all the pros, then maybe every other bw stream? I'm kinda failing to see how this doesn't turn into the 30-200 viewer count we're seeing on the sidebar right now. Where two players have 200 and everyone else is at around 50. Hiya got around 600 yesterday while he was doing some kind of show match, which sounds about right. I would expect every time they do a show match they can get around 500, but I don't think that's reflective of their average throughout each day, which is what was originally being discussed. I doubt very much it's easily accessible if you don't know about it lol. | ||
endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11143 Posts
is that just my internet being slow? | ||
Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On October 25 2014 21:49 Crunchums wrote: i get tons of buffering whenever I try and watch them is that just my internet being slow? got the same:/ | ||
SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
On October 25 2014 15:52 HeyImFinn wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2014 15:32 Shock710 wrote: O_O silverlight can do stuff, i had it install ages ago cause of a windows update and i was like wtf is this shit O_o probably useless, ignore for 2 years and now it does something :O Netflix? Joking aside, I'm stoked. I can finally watch 린아씨 live!~ ![]() Hey, you're Finn! + Show Spoiler + ![]() Fatty loser | ||
purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On October 25 2014 22:13 sabas123 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2014 21:49 Crunchums wrote: i get tons of buffering whenever I try and watch them is that just my internet being slow? got the same:/ Yeah, it was smooth for me before today, but now it buffers a lot on many streams. Hopefully temporary. | ||
miercat
394 Posts
On October 25 2014 21:06 Chef wrote: Show nested quote + If you don't know much about something, consider not posting uninformed opinion about it(especially when the truth is easily accessible). "The truth" is missing lots of important details, like what "Total" includes.+ Show Spoiler + In any case, it looks like Total - Bisu + Terror frequently doesn't get much more than 5k combined. So LoveTV and all the other competitions, maybe, then all the pros, then maybe every other bw stream? I'm kinda failing to see how this doesn't turn into the 30-200 viewer count we're seeing on the sidebar right now. Where two players have 200 and everyone else is at around 50. Hiya got around 600 yesterday while he was doing some kind of show match, which sounds about right. I would expect every time they do a show match they can get around 500, but I don't think that's reflective of their average throughout each day, which is what was originally being discussed. I doubt very much it's easily accessible if you don't know about it lol. What you feel is a reasonable viewer count [you stated less than 100], is completely irrelevant, when the actual viewer counts are available. There is no point in posting any opinions and justifications about "reasonable" viewer counts, when you could instead post information about the actual viewer counts. You missed the part about many BW streamers are among the top viewed on Afreeca. The info is on TL (among other places), feel free to find it. As for Terror.. On October 24 2014 23:50 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: max ~52800 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/469728-terror-unbanned-from-afreeca?page=3#50 | ||
Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On October 26 2014 05:15 Birdie wrote: Is it not possible for the foreign viewers to register an Afreeca account and then chat on the same chat channel as the Koreans? I'm asked to install the plugin like before (never worked for me), and even if I did that as a foreigner I doubt I can chat considering I can't post comments anywhere on the site without verification. | ||
amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On October 26 2014 05:15 Birdie wrote: Is it not possible for the foreign viewers to register an Afreeca account and then chat on the same chat channel as the Koreans? got a korean SSN? | ||
HeyImFinn
United States250 Posts
On October 25 2014 23:44 SynC[gm] wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2014 15:52 HeyImFinn wrote: On October 25 2014 15:32 Shock710 wrote: O_O silverlight can do stuff, i had it install ages ago cause of a windows update and i was like wtf is this shit O_o probably useless, ignore for 2 years and now it does something :O Netflix? Joking aside, I'm stoked. I can finally watch 린아씨 live!~ ![]() Hey, you're Finn! + Show Spoiler + ![]() Fatty loser Ironically, my name isn't originally from AT. ![]() | ||
Me_ToKa
Bulgaria309 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote: lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!! User was warned for this post Turn off other streams so you can have only sc2 streams in your view... | ||
ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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ExBoshy
118 Posts
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia9499 Posts
Using the embedded IRC chat is even simpler than using the twitch chat (since you don't even have to register anywhere). Just click on the 'Toggle channel' below the stream, enter your name and click 'Join chat'. In the spoiler, you can see a picture which clarifies it even further: + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
nekotrap
130 Posts
![]() It's so lovely to see a number like that on the TL sidebar for BW. And if Terror gets featured, well... | ||
Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2037 Posts
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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
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iFU.pauline
France1554 Posts
On October 26 2014 22:49 kogeT wrote: I can't connect to any of the streams now? Anyone else have same issue? yeah | ||
Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On October 26 2014 23:32 iFU.pauline wrote: Show nested quote + On October 26 2014 22:49 kogeT wrote: I can't connect to any of the streams now? Anyone else have same issue? yeah seems to be global ![]() | ||
TerranZerg
Russian Federation145 Posts
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
nice job with the stream list and making the chat! | ||
shizzz
Australia127 Posts
On October 26 2014 21:16 2Pacalypse- wrote: I've added an embedded IRC chat channel to all direct afreeca streams to deal with this problem of not having a place to chat about the games. The chat channel is #teamliquidbw on Quakenet, which is actually an old TL BW channel which served for people to talk about BW and find games and stuff. It hasn't been that much active lately, but hopefully now more people will use it to talk about anything BW. We're only using a single channel for now to see how it will go; but if it becomes pretty popular we can split all streams to their own chat channels so people don't talk over each other etc. Using the embedded IRC chat is even simpler than using the twitch chat (since you don't even have to register anywhere). Just click on the 'Toggle channel' below the stream, enter your name and click 'Join chat'. In the spoiler, you can see a picture which clarifies it even further: + Show Spoiler + ![]() Nice addition, thanks for this. Lets hope it takes off. | ||
TaShadan
Germany1969 Posts
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote: lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!! User was warned for this post Turn of Broodwar streams. BTW someone posting something like this in a sc2 thread would have gotten a temp ban... | ||
palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
On October 27 2014 03:28 TaShadan wrote: Thx! This is awesome! Show nested quote + On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote: lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!! User was warned for this post Turn of Broodwar streams. BTW someone posting something like this in a sc2 thread would have gotten a temp ban... I agree with you TaShadan, where is the temp ban? | ||
Tonkerchen
680 Posts
gogo larva & shuttle btw, till now I've been watching those games on snipealot twitch restreams. do i contribute something to the players with that way? now there only afreeca streams in the sidebar, something changed. Unfortunately I can't handle those streams/players since they're loading all the time but nothing appears. it's a proxy story problem, isn't it? bw4ever ![]() | ||
amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On October 27 2014 04:11 Tonkerchen wrote: these are definitely good times for BW! imo watching high quality broodwar games is simply more worth the time than sc2. gogo larva & shuttle btw, till now I've been watching those games on snipealot twitch restreams. do i contribute something to the players with that way? now there only afreeca streams in the sidebar, something changed. Unfortunately I can't handle those streams/players since they're loading all the time but nothing appears. it's a proxy story problem, isn't it? bw4ever ![]() Snipe streams are still up. They're unfeatured but they are still there (Dont like the unfeaturing :/ ) | ||
Regis
Poland109 Posts
On October 27 2014 04:17 amazingxkcd wrote: Show nested quote + On October 27 2014 04:11 Tonkerchen wrote: these are definitely good times for BW! imo watching high quality broodwar games is simply more worth the time than sc2. gogo larva & shuttle btw, till now I've been watching those games on snipealot twitch restreams. do i contribute something to the players with that way? now there only afreeca streams in the sidebar, something changed. Unfortunately I can't handle those streams/players since they're loading all the time but nothing appears. it's a proxy story problem, isn't it? bw4ever ![]() Snipe streams are still up. They're unfeatured but they are still there (Dont like the unfeaturing :/ ) lets say true. For me looks like TL fucked all snipealot channels, all their works. RIP Snipe, thanks for all the works. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6578 Posts
On October 27 2014 04:28 Regis wrote: Show nested quote + On October 27 2014 04:17 amazingxkcd wrote: On October 27 2014 04:11 Tonkerchen wrote: these are definitely good times for BW! imo watching high quality broodwar games is simply more worth the time than sc2. gogo larva & shuttle btw, till now I've been watching those games on snipealot twitch restreams. do i contribute something to the players with that way? now there only afreeca streams in the sidebar, something changed. Unfortunately I can't handle those streams/players since they're loading all the time but nothing appears. it's a proxy story problem, isn't it? bw4ever ![]() Snipe streams are still up. They're unfeatured but they are still there (Dont like the unfeaturing :/ ) lets say true. For me looks like TL fucked all snipealot channels, all their works. RIP Snipe, thanks for all the works. to be fair watching snipealots numbers are pretty much the same before the change. | ||
DiMiaN
Finland299 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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Sero
United States692 Posts
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broodwar2.0
Niue229 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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LuckyGnomTV
Russian Federation367 Posts
[edit] Ive found them unfeatured.. how dare you to do this?.. I feel betrayed for them T_T | ||
Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On October 28 2014 04:37 LuckyGnomTV wrote: Whats happened to snipealot and bgvrt (I might be wrong with nickame, but there was second guy who was restreaming afreeca streams)? I miss them like A LOT, because this afreeca streams on the right side are totally useless. They are just unwatchable, this is like non stop slideshow, at least from EU. [edit] Ive found them unfeatured.. how dare you to do this?.. I feel betrayed for them T_T they got unfeatured because it became cluttered or something. I think 2pac posted about it somewhere around here lol. | ||
Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On October 28 2014 09:56 Pr0wler wrote: Can't they just stream with Twitch ? I tried to watch some good old BW, but I literally can't. This afreeca thing is just unwatchable from Europe. And there is no quality options. I'm pretty sure that Sea(for example, because he is online now) has Twitch account and was streaming with twitch in the past. Snipe streams are still up and running for ya. Just watch that instead | ||
iFU.pauline
France1554 Posts
http://play.afreeca.com/rjsrkdgkwk12 | ||
AleXoundOS
Georgia457 Posts
On October 28 2014 19:48 iFU.pauline wrote: why best stream isn't showing? http://play.afreeca.com/rjsrkdgkwk12 There are generally few zergs among the players showed in the sidebar and many other players are missing. | ||
myminerals
560 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On October 29 2014 02:53 myminerals wrote: So is the current amount of BW stream viewers is the amount of tl ppl + afreeca or is it just tl viewers? Cause last several days I see a crazy jump in the quantity of BW viewers. It's the amount of TL people + Afreeca, but I don't think the numbers are being counted correctly if I understood what some people said. Something like it only includes mobile viewers, not desktop viewers? | ||
myminerals
560 Posts
On October 29 2014 05:26 Birdie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2014 02:53 myminerals wrote: So is the current amount of BW stream viewers is the amount of tl ppl + afreeca or is it just tl viewers? Cause last several days I see a crazy jump in the quantity of BW viewers. It's the amount of TL people + Afreeca, but I don't think the numbers are being counted correctly if I understood what some people said. Something like it only includes mobile viewers, not desktop viewers? Still, glad to see ppl not abandoning bw steams. While myself don't play BW anymore, I frequently have a morning sandwich or lunch in front of the screen watching afreeca. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On October 29 2014 05:26 Birdie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2014 02:53 myminerals wrote: So is the current amount of BW stream viewers is the amount of tl ppl + afreeca or is it just tl viewers? Cause last several days I see a crazy jump in the quantity of BW viewers. It's the amount of TL people + Afreeca, but I don't think the numbers are being counted correctly if I understood what some people said. Something like it only includes mobile viewers, not desktop viewers? lol you reversed it. The number includes desktop but not mobile viewers afaik. | ||
Probemicro
3708 Posts
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Sero
United States692 Posts
On October 29 2014 11:52 Probemicro wrote: seems Sea himself has found out about the new afreeca streams being featured here on TL. Is that why his stream's listed as mature now? | ||
Deathstar
9150 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
Or is it an account thing? where u buy an afreeca account to watch streams and we're somehow by-passing it? D: | ||
broodwar2.0
Niue229 Posts
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flashimba
225 Posts
On October 29 2014 08:10 BigFan wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2014 05:26 Birdie wrote: On October 29 2014 02:53 myminerals wrote: So is the current amount of BW stream viewers is the amount of tl ppl + afreeca or is it just tl viewers? Cause last several days I see a crazy jump in the quantity of BW viewers. It's the amount of TL people + Afreeca, but I don't think the numbers are being counted correctly if I understood what some people said. Something like it only includes mobile viewers, not desktop viewers? lol you reversed it. The number includes desktop but not mobile viewers afaik. No, the numbers on the sidebar are total viewers, which includes both mobile and desktop viewers. | ||
AleXoundOS
Georgia457 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
Ok I used google translate for this "방송이 종료되었습니다." Apparently it means that stream is cancelled. But oh no, Bisu is live and has 2k viewers. Same with Larva... And mongs stream "일시적인 오류로 방송이 종료되었습니다. 재생 버튼을 클릭하여 다시 입장해주시기 바랍니다." means that it was a problem to load but please try again by pressing play. Nope. God I hate afreeca. Snipealot for featured! | ||
Probemicro
3708 Posts
On November 09 2014 21:51 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Why can't I watch streams?? Ok I used google translate for this "방송이 종료되었습니다." Apparently it means that stream is cancelled. But oh no, Bisu is live and has 2k viewers. Same with Larva... And mongs stream "일시적인 오류로 방송이 종료되었습니다. 재생 버튼을 클릭하여 다시 입장해주시기 바랍니다." means that it was a problem to load but please try again by pressing play. Nope. God I hate afreeca. Snipealot for featured! The sidebar seem to have frozen at the point of time and stopped updating. Someone maybe can fix -_- | ||
shizzz
Australia127 Posts
On November 09 2014 21:51 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Why can't I watch streams?? Ok I used google translate for this "방송이 종료되었습니다." Apparently it means that stream is cancelled. But oh no, Bisu is live and has 2k viewers. Same with Larva... And mongs stream "일시적인 오류로 방송이 종료되었습니다. 재생 버튼을 클릭하여 다시 입장해주시기 바랍니다." means that it was a problem to load but please try again by pressing play. Nope. God I hate afreeca. Snipealot for featured! Just to note, but you will get this if you try to watch more than one stream at a time. To get around this, open additional streams in their own incognito window. | ||
R1CH
Netherlands10340 Posts
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