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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 11:52:34
October 24 2014 11:49 GMT
#1
Praise R1CH!

This is so sick.

That Live Stream list is long as it is at 9 pm in Korea :O

Well this should make snipealot a LOT easier from now on...
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 12:02:49
October 24 2014 11:57 GMT
#2
Holy shit, what just happened.
So now we are also contributing directly to the viewer count of afreeca?
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
October 24 2014 12:00 GMT
#3
On October 24 2014 20:57 remag wrote:
Holy shit, what just happened.
So now we are also contributing directly to the viewer account of afreeca?

Yes

BW3.0 here we go.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
October 24 2014 12:06 GMT
#4
Wow, this is so awesome. omg
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
October 24 2014 12:09 GMT
#5
Omg Icons are appearing!

Slowly...
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
sickkungen
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden179 Posts
October 24 2014 12:20 GMT
#6
I just lost my shit
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 12:33:25
October 24 2014 12:32 GMT
#7
What a pleasant surprise this morning XD
Brood War 3.0

R1CH is the best :D

(right on time for Terror's return lol)
T P Z sagi
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 14:21:44
October 24 2014 12:34 GMT
#8
On October 24 2014 21:32 purakushi wrote:

(right on time for Terror's return lol)

the horrors

ALL PRAISE THE WIZARD R1CH!
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1710 Posts
October 24 2014 12:55 GMT
#9
holy fuck this is FANTASTIC. Thank you so much R1ch
flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
October 24 2014 13:00 GMT
#10
Loving the sidebar! THANKS!

Only thing I miss is the ability to chat to other stream watchers.
lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
October 24 2014 13:12 GMT
#11
lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!!

User was warned for this post
sickkungen
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden179 Posts
October 24 2014 13:12 GMT
#12
On October 24 2014 22:00 flashimba wrote:
Loving the sidebar! THANKS!

Only thing I miss is the ability to chat to other stream watchers.


Yes, I agree. The proposition of making snipealot2 the official stream chat for any stream is quite good I think.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 24 2014 13:15 GMT
#13
oh that is cool ... wooooo even runs for me.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 13:20:32
October 24 2014 13:17 GMT
#14
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote:
lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!!


You can always hide the streams through user options if you dislike it. I did that for sc2

Also those are not even the final view count. There's at least a thousand to 2 thousand China restream viewers depending on the players online.
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
October 24 2014 13:24 GMT
#15
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote:
lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!!

Yeah, just like how the 5 Gods of Melee are those who couldn't succeed at Brawl right?
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 24 2014 13:33 GMT
#16
That is really awesome.
But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
October 24 2014 13:35 GMT
#17
On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
That is really awesome.
But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O

Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW.

Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing.

Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list.

Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak.

Be patient.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 13:54:41
October 24 2014 13:41 GMT
#18
On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
That is really awesome.
But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O

Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW.

Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing.

Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list.

Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak.

Be patient.

edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 24 2014 13:57 GMT
#19
Haha, Hiya on Bifrost.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 24 2014 13:59 GMT
#20
Low? Some can reach a thousand , bisu and maybe the occasional notables can reach a few thousand easily. Also theres an additional 1-2k from china restreams. Obviously they are not going to reach LOL levels of 10k+ soon.

The fact BW can still retain quite an audience after 15 years shows it strong legacy. Very few other games can say the same.
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
October 24 2014 14:03 GMT
#21
On October 24 2014 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote:
On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
That is really awesome.
But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O

Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW.

Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing.

Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list.

Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak.

Be patient.

edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work!

Too scared to face the truth? Before you judge others with your narrow minded perception, take a good look at yourself in the mirror.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 24 2014 14:06 GMT
#22
On October 24 2014 23:03 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote:
On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
That is really awesome.
But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O

Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW.

Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing.

Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list.

Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak.

Be patient.

edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work!

Too scared to face the truth? Before you judge others with your narrow minded perception, take a good look at yourself in the mirror.

You are unbelievable, i am sad that you seem to be the "new face" of BW on reddit and here, not good for potential new viewers at all.
back to lurking, you alone are reason enough to never post here as someone who doesn't know the same things as the hardcore fans, kinda sad tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 24 2014 14:08 GMT
#23
Hey Rich, how did you capture the RTMP streams?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 24 2014 14:13 GMT
#24
Most people aren't like Hyral. Sorry Viper.

I don't really know a lot about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the regular numbers for most of them are what they look like now. Less than 100. They have too much competition with each other, most of their audience are adults with other things to do, and they stream for several hours a day.

The situation is that they're streaming from their parents houses while biding their time for military (this I do know, since three top players said it in an interview).

The only times you're going to see big numbers is during a big show match or in SSL or something like that. It'll be interesting to see what kind of viewership a tournament like LoveTV or SSL are really getting when they start up. That should be prime time and give a better idea of who is still watching BW.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6578 Posts
October 24 2014 14:36 GMT
#25
On October 24 2014 23:03 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote:
On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
That is really awesome.
But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O

Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW.

Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing.

Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list.

Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak.

Be patient.

edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work!

Too scared to face the truth? Before you judge others with your narrow minded perception, take a good look at yourself in the mirror.

calm down a bit -_-
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
October 24 2014 14:41 GMT
#26
Still missing a few players from LSL3 and top Fish ladder players like Last who should be added. GJ and ty R1CH once again, I'll send you an updated list maybe later.

Love to chat, but there's Brood War work to be done. One step at a time.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 24 2014 14:56 GMT
#27
On October 24 2014 23:41 HyralGambit wrote:
Still missing a few players from LSL3 and top Fish ladder players like Last who should be added. GJ and ty R1CH once again, I'll send you an updated list maybe later.

Love to chat, but there's Brood War work to be done. One step at a time.



Dude, you're getting overzealous about the revival of BW. BW doesn't need to be back to its OGN/MBC glory days for the bw community to enjoy. You can't force people to like it; and besides that, those who will enjoy BW will naturally gravitate towards BW itself (whether through featured news or the stream sidebar).

I'm already quite happy with the state of BW right now (is not having LoveSL3 and SSL 10 already enough for ya?)
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 24 2014 15:05 GMT
#28
You should calm down a bit Hyral.

Nice new feature. Thanks.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 24 2014 15:06 GMT
#29
On October 24 2014 23:03 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 24 2014 22:35 HyralGambit wrote:
On October 24 2014 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
That is really awesome.
But i wonder why the viewernumbers are that low? I thought more people watch BW on afreeca tbh :O

Sigh... if you don't know much about BW, don't talk about BW.

Not all the players are on that list yet! If you look up BW on Afreeca, people like Shuttle is not appearing.

Plus the LoveTV/SonicTV is not on the list.

Plus other BJs like Sea/sSak.

Be patient.

edit: nvm, don't want this thread to go down that route, ty RICH for that work!

Too scared to face the truth? Before you judge others with your narrow minded perception, take a good look at yourself in the mirror.


I think you should consider being more welcoming and patient (see how that works both ways?) with newcomers instead of being so needlessly hostile to everyone that says something you think might somehow be interpreted as an attack on Brood War. He asked a legitimate question, you could have answered it as a knowledgable veteran instead of coming across like a dick.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6578 Posts
October 24 2014 15:12 GMT
#30
i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ?
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9499 Posts
October 24 2014 15:14 GMT
#31
On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ?

Of course your stream is still featured. You're too gosu not to be featured.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 24 2014 15:14 GMT
#32
On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ?

Just the restreams were taken off the featured streaming list for now to remove clutter. Other streams (yours included here) were not taken off.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6578 Posts
October 24 2014 15:17 GMT
#33
thanks )
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 24 2014 15:20 GMT
#34
This is amazing. I also can't believe I get no buffer and even this shittop can handle it. _(_ _)_
En Taro Violet
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 24 2014 15:20 GMT
#35
On October 25 2014 00:14 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ?

Just the restreams were taken off the featured streaming list for now to remove clutter. Other streams (yours included here) were not taken off.



Hmmm the main purpose of the restreams was to give people a place to chat (ala twitch chat). the only disadvantage of the afreeca streams now are that theres no place for english speakers to chat. I don't necessarily agree with unfeaturing the snipe streams, but I can see why you would want to do that. Now, as for clutter itself, perhaps add sub groups to the sidebar to separate by race? (since it's obvious what race people are). Also, maybe start advertising the #tl-bw irc chat so that people at least have a place to speak and finally, for the BW events that will be listed, which streams are going to be listed (restreams or direct feed?)?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 24 2014 15:23 GMT
#36
On October 25 2014 00:20 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 00:14 Epoxide wrote:
On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ?

Just the restreams were taken off the featured streaming list for now to remove clutter. Other streams (yours included here) were not taken off.



Hmmm the main purpose of the restreams was to give people a place to chat (ala twitch chat). the only disadvantage of the afreeca streams now are that theres no place for english speakers to chat. I don't necessarily agree with unfeaturing the snipe streams, but I can see why you would want to do that. Now, as for clutter itself, perhaps add sub groups to the sidebar to separate by race? (since it's obvious what race people are). Also, maybe start advertising the #tl-bw irc chat so that people at least have a place to speak and finally, for the BW events that will be listed, which streams are going to be listed (restreams or direct feed?)?

I haven't been involved in any of this so I can't answer most stuff. There is however already a feature where you can sort streams by race (and remove race icons): http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/sidebars.php
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 24 2014 15:25 GMT
#37
huh, well I'll be damned ..

FYI guys, the viewership numbers on the sidebar are not indicative of the entire audience watching atm. For instance, on the sidebar it says HiyA only has 69 viewers, but according to the Afreeca player, it shows him w/ ~700 viewers (afreeca player + mobile app) atm. I suspect they are keeping the two numbers separate for whatever reason. I am also not sure if this will be a permanent thing.

I hope the number of streams included on the sidebar is expanded .. I'd love to see DoE included, he's probably my favorite streamer nowadays.
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 24 2014 15:31 GMT
#38
On October 25 2014 00:25 ArvickHero wrote:
huh, well I'll be damned ..

FYI guys, the viewership numbers on the sidebar are not indicative of the entire audience watching atm. For instance, on the sidebar it says HiyA only has 69 viewers, but according to the Afreeca player, it shows him w/ ~700 viewers (afreeca player + mobile app) atm. I suspect they are keeping the two numbers separate for whatever reason. I am also not sure if this will be a permanent thing.

I hope the number of streams included on the sidebar is expanded .. I'd love to see DoE included, he's probably my favorite streamer nowadays.

Hmm I see him with 600 players now, 700 half an hour back. Maybe just a random bug?
En Taro Violet
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9499 Posts
October 24 2014 15:41 GMT
#39
On October 25 2014 00:20 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 00:14 Epoxide wrote:
On October 25 2014 00:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i see snipealots stream and afreeca streams arent featured anymore,this mean also my stream for example isnt featured anymore now that we have ex pros streaming ?

Just the restreams were taken off the featured streaming list for now to remove clutter. Other streams (yours included here) were not taken off.



Hmmm the main purpose of the restreams was to give people a place to chat (ala twitch chat). the only disadvantage of the afreeca streams now are that theres no place for english speakers to chat. I don't necessarily agree with unfeaturing the snipe streams, but I can see why you would want to do that. Now, as for clutter itself, perhaps add sub groups to the sidebar to separate by race? (since it's obvious what race people are). Also, maybe start advertising the #tl-bw irc chat so that people at least have a place to speak and finally, for the BW events that will be listed, which streams are going to be listed (restreams or direct feed?)?

I agree that it sucks that there's no centralized place for people to discuss BW streams. I would be all for #tl-bw irc to take that place.

For now we have only added LoveTV and SonicTV streams for events.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 15:53:37
October 24 2014 15:53 GMT
#40
Wow this is awesome! Thanks for this.. My weekend will all about improving my knowledge on Brood War!
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 24 2014 16:31 GMT
#41
Yea, I'm torn. On the one hand it doesn't make a ton of sense to have:

Shuttle
snipealot: Shuttle

But at the same time it makes it a little less likely for chat. I guess the best way to do it as a community that I can think of is watch on snipealot if the player you're interested in is on, if not on snipe and you want to watch someone different then watch the afreeca direct feed.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 24 2014 16:39 GMT
#42
Thinking about it there is one thing I don't really like, and that is the fact that the Afreeca guys are going to keep all the gosu foreigners down at the bottom. Anyway we could have a sub category for foriegner/Korean or default foreign streams to the top of the list.

EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
October 24 2014 17:07 GMT
#43
awsome
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States460 Posts
October 24 2014 17:12 GMT
#44
aww this is sooo cool. BROODWAR FIGHTING!!!
How we will win in the period ahead.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 24 2014 17:16 GMT
#45
Big thanks to everyone responsible for this!
Michael Probu
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
October 24 2014 17:17 GMT
#46
Most of the streams that are listed for me right now are actually offline.
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
broodwar2.0
Profile Joined October 2013
Niue229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 17:36:28
October 24 2014 17:23 GMT
#47
this is a awesome feature love the look of it but you guys gotta work out a way to fit in snipealot channels (maybe different category restreams w/e) since it its a place where you can discuss/watch streams easily with guaranteed no buffering

we should really keep snipealot streams in the spotlight this way its sortof ''hurting'' the twitch sc/bw community
ie folks who join the twitch chat asking how to get on broodwar or iccup serv etc..
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
October 24 2014 17:34 GMT
#48
On October 25 2014 02:17 Sero wrote:
Most of the streams that are listed for me right now are actually offline.

This was a bug, it's fixed now.
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Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
October 24 2014 17:36 GMT
#49
Awesome, thanks.
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 17:41:15
October 24 2014 17:40 GMT
#50
On October 25 2014 00:20 amazingxkcd wrote:

Hmmm the main purpose of the restreams was to give people a place to chat (ala twitch chat). the only disadvantage of the afreeca streams now are that theres no place for english speakers to chat. I don't necessarily agree with unfeaturing the snipe streams, but I can see why you would want to do that.


On October 25 2014 01:31 L_Master wrote:
Yea, I'm torn. On the one hand it doesn't make a ton of sense to have:

Shuttle
snipealot: Shuttle

But at the same time it makes it a little less likely for chat. I guess the best way to do it as a community that I can think of is watch on snipealot if the player you're interested in is on, if not on snipe and you want to watch someone different then watch the afreeca direct feed.


On October 25 2014 02:23 broodwar2.0 wrote:
this is a awesome feature love the look of it but you guys gotta work out a way to fit in snipealot channels (maybe different category restreams w/e) since it its a place where you can discuss/watch streams easily with guaranteed no buffering

we should really keep snipealot streams in the spotlight this way its sortof ''hurting'' the twitch sc/bw community
ie folks who join the twitch chat asking how to get on broodwar or iccup serv etc..



Agree wholeheartedly, I'd also really like to see the snipealot streams either featured or in a featured sub-group.

Anyone could watch the streams with Livestreamer or Afreeca Player for the past few years, but it was the snipealot Twitch chats that really enabled the social interaction and sense of community. There's a lot more activation energy required to get folks to install/use an IRC client or webchat than simply using Twitch
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vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
October 24 2014 18:35 GMT
#51
thanks for the great work R1CH !
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
yukidesu
Profile Joined May 2012
51 Posts
October 24 2014 18:50 GMT
#52
there are still some bj's missing like: free, mini, last, guemchi, snow, sexy, sharp, beast.
hope they will be added soon
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
735 Posts
October 24 2014 18:53 GMT
#53
...R1CH, wow. This is godly, divine work. TY~
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 24 2014 18:55 GMT
#54
On October 25 2014 03:50 yukidesu wrote:
there are still some bj's missing like: free, mini, last, guemchi, snow, sexy, sharp, beast.
hope they will be added soon


you can have a snipealot mod put these players on until there's support for all the players (snipealot has all streamers)
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 18:59:31
October 24 2014 18:57 GMT
#55
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote:
lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!!

User was warned for this post


You are pathetic for assuming that every one wants to "succeed in sc2"

Your argument fails when one considers that some korean BW experts never tried to play StarCraft 2 professionally.

And even if they had, your statement would have been dumb. I tried listening to black metal. But I didn't like it, so I went back to death metal. Are you going to tell me that death metal is just for those who couldn't succeed at black metal?

People explore and try various things. They don't like everything. That doesn't mean they failed. It means they tried something and realized that they didn't like it.

But yes, it is indeed possible that some BW experts tried to get good at SC2, and quit SC2 when they failed.
Why does that mean that we can't enjoy their BW games? Every human should contribute to humanity as a whole with what he can offer - what he is good at.

If you're good at BW but bad at SC2, then you should obviously be playing Brood War and producing great Brood War games. Not trying to do something that you can't.

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I'm still trying black metal. I'm not done yet. Good music takes time and effort to learn to appreciate.
It just seems simplistic, which I don't like. But I haven't given up yet.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
October 24 2014 18:59 GMT
#56
This is awesome, thanks!
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
October 24 2014 19:27 GMT
#57
this is so coooooool
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
October 24 2014 19:47 GMT
#58
On October 24 2014 22:59 Probemicro wrote:
Low? Some can reach a thousand , bisu and maybe the occasional notables can reach a few thousand easily. Also theres an additional 1-2k from china restreams. Obviously they are not going to reach LOL levels of 10k+ soon.

The fact BW can still retain quite an audience after 15 years shows it strong legacy. Very few other games can say the same.

You have to consider the fact that Afreeca is mostly Korea only. So a 500 Afreeca viewers >>> Twitch Viewers. 500 Afreeca viewers can be a comfortable living.
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miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 21:04:11
October 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#59
On October 24 2014 23:13 Chef wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Most people aren't like Hyral. Sorry Viper.

I don't really know a lot about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the regular numbers for most of them are what they look like now. Less than 100. + Show Spoiler +
They have too much competition with each other, most of their audience are adults with other things to do, and they stream for several hours a day.

The situation is that they're streaming from their parents houses while biding their time for military (this I do know, since three top players said it in an interview).

The only times you're going to see big numbers is during a big show match or in SSL or something like that. It'll be interesting to see what kind of viewership a tournament like LoveTV or SSL are really getting when they start up. That should be prime time and give a better idea of who is still watching BW.


On October 24 2014 00:19 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2014 23:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
http://z28.imgup.net/screenb614.PNG
http://z36.imgup.net/screen950f.PNG

viewership graphs


@@ WOW

I made it so you dont need to click it:

[image loading]
[image loading]



And it's been documented that there are many more BW streamers among the top viewed on Afreeca.



If you don't know much about something, consider not posting uninformed opinion about it(especially when the truth is easily accessible).
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
October 24 2014 23:14 GMT
#60
I don't really understand what has been changed, I see see the snipealot and afreeca streamers, seems like nothing has changed.
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lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-24 23:38:44
October 24 2014 23:34 GMT
#61
The new streaming link is sweet!

I wonder if Afreeca has decided to provide browser-based streams in preparation for expanding its business to foreign markets.

I saw the following job posting recently:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://corp.afreecatv.com/recruit/recruit.html

Seeking both those with industry experience and new graduates.

Deadline: Until position is filled

Position
- Description: Strategic Development and Management of Servicing Foreign Areas
- Locations: USA (LA), Thailand (Bangkok), Taiwan (Taipei)

Responsibilities
- AfreecaTV market research (foreign markets), launching/management tasks
- Market research, competitor research
- Develop business model and service launch plan
- Build local business partnerships and identify local broadcasting talents

Requirements
- People living in appropriate countries or Koreans studying abroad
- Dual language skills preferred (Korean+English/Thai/Chinese)
- Good understanding of AfreecaTV services preferred
- Computer engineering, communications/broadcasting/journalism degree holders preferred
- Gaming, IT, media, broadcasting, marketing experience preferred
- Someone who has no restrictions on international business travel

* No discrimination based on Citizenship/Age/Gender/Degrees
* Required: Name, area of residence, AfreecaTV ID, resume, self-introductory cover letter
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 25 2014 00:28 GMT
#62
that liquid'Sea tag
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 25 2014 00:40 GMT
#63
Pretty cool! The stream, it be so clear! :O

On October 25 2014 09:28 Shock710 wrote:
that liquid'Sea tag

shhhh keep it on the downlow!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
October 25 2014 00:56 GMT
#64
That is awesome that afreeca is trying to expand to foreign places, I really hope this continues to grow in foreign places as well. Gogo afreeca!
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
October 25 2014 01:56 GMT
#65
On October 25 2014 09:56 GGzerG wrote:
That is awesome that afreeca is trying to expand to foreign places, I really hope this continues to grow in foreign places as well. Gogo afreeca!

Yeah, wonder if someone can send Afreeca our thanks in Korean or something.

Really show them we care
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shizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia127 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 04:39:49
October 25 2014 04:29 GMT
#66
Great little addition, however a few important points have been brought up. Even though we have the forums, having a place to chat about streams is vital for the small community feel that surrounds (foreign) BW. I think centralising the snipe2 chat could work, though at the same time you will have a bunch of different viewers talking in a channel for another different stream. Once that ease of access suffers, we might find less and less of the few new people we get passing through to actually talk, will be visiting at all. It just seems to become difficult when you aren't chatting in a window that is linked to that stream. Honestly, maybe I'm over thinking the chat and snipe2 chat won't get too congested.

So even though we would be doubling up on say, loveTV streams when a showmatch is on for example, it makes sense to me to have snipe2 featured and running for an easy place to gather. Also, unfortunately quite a lot of people (europe mainly from what I've seen?) are still unable to view afreeca lagfree, snipealot is still essential to those people.

I propose limiting the number of afreeca restreams on the sidebar to maybe the current most popular 4-5 (or up to 8 if each stream is >3-400 viewers for when it's BW primetime in SK) so that there is space for foreign streamers, possibly having snipe2 restored to featured (though something would need to be worked out to avoid streaming double ups), as well as having a link underneath the video (alongside view on afreeca/pop out video) directing users to snipe2 chat/IRC chat if you end up leaning that way.
broodwar2.0
Profile Joined October 2013
Niue229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 05:31:09
October 25 2014 05:28 GMT
#67

Great little addition, however a few important points have been brought up. Even though we have the forums, having a place to chat about streams is vital for the small community feel that surrounds (foreign) BW. I think centralising the snipe2 chat could work, though at the same time you will have a bunch of different viewers talking in a channel for another different stream. Once that ease of access suffers, we might find less and less of the few new people we get passing through to actually talk, will be visiting at all. It just seems to become difficult when you aren't chatting in a window that is linked to that stream. Honestly, maybe I'm over thinking the chat and snipe2 chat won't get too congested.



yeap doesnt work chatting bout different streams in 1 chat people want to discuss whats happening on the screen with fellow viewers


So even though we would be doubling up on say, loveTV streams when a showmatch is on for example, it makes sense to me to have snipe2 featured and running for an easy place to gather. Also, unfortunately quite a lot of people (europe mainly from what I've seen?) are still unable to view afreeca lagfree, snipealot is still essential to those people.


that would make alot of sense aswell bvgrt and snipealol2 good places to gather and watch/chat bout ongoing LoveTV/SSL league


I propose limiting the number of afreeca restreams on the sidebar to maybe the current most popular 4-5 (or up to 8 if each stream is >3-400 viewers for when it's BW primetime in SK) so that there is space for foreign streamers, possibly having snipe2 restored to featured (though something would need to be worked out to avoid streaming double ups), as well as having a link underneath the video (alongside view on afreeca/pop out video) directing users to snipe2 chat/IRC chat if you end up leaning that way.


agree with this i know said it before (sorry) but its better to have snipealot2 in a prime spot on the side-bar since it keeps the twitch sc/bw community alive its essential to have a place where foreign bw fans can easily come and watch/chat bout bw to keep the foreign community strong/together
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 25 2014 05:31 GMT
#68
how do you reduce stream quality?
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 25 2014 05:53 GMT
#69
On October 25 2014 14:31 lichter wrote:
how do you reduce stream quality?

I think if you install silverlight, you get HD options but I'm not sure if that gives you the ability to reduce the quality or just raise it.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Rlentless
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong322 Posts
October 25 2014 06:22 GMT
#70
The quality options are beside the rectangle player size box in the non-embed version. There is only a "Normal" option and a source quality option now. And you need to get silverlight and the afreeca player to play source quality. @@
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 06:33:18
October 25 2014 06:32 GMT
#71
O_O silverlight can do stuff, i had it install ages ago cause of a windows update and i was like wtf is this shit O_o probably useless, ignore for 2 years and now it does something :O
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
HeyImFinn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 06:56:58
October 25 2014 06:52 GMT
#72
On October 25 2014 15:32 Shock710 wrote:
O_O silverlight can do stuff, i had it install ages ago cause of a windows update and i was like wtf is this shit O_o probably useless, ignore for 2 years and now it does something :O

Netflix? Joking aside, I'm stoked. I can finally watch 린아씨 live!~
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 25 2014 07:29 GMT
#73
netflix isnt available in australia
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
HeyImFinn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States250 Posts
October 25 2014 07:46 GMT
#74
On October 25 2014 16:29 Shock710 wrote:
netflix isnt available in australia

Dude, you poor thing.
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kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
October 25 2014 08:10 GMT
#75
if that's r1ch again then he is just the most enthusiastic and awesome person in the internet. there's just no words to say what it takes to thank him.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 25 2014 11:45 GMT
#76
On October 25 2014 10:56 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 09:56 GGzerG wrote:
That is awesome that afreeca is trying to expand to foreign places, I really hope this continues to grow in foreign places as well. Gogo afreeca!

Yeah, wonder if someone can send Afreeca our thanks in Korean or something.

Really show them we care

I'm sure they'll be keeping tabs on stats, so the best way to show them we're interested is to just watch.
En Taro Violet
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 12:08:12
October 25 2014 12:06 GMT
#77
If you don't know much about something, consider not posting uninformed opinion about it(especially when the truth is easily accessible).

"The truth" is missing lots of important details, like what "Total" includes. In any case, it looks like Total - Bisu + Terror frequently doesn't get much more than 5k combined. So LoveTV and all the other competitions, maybe, then all the pros, then maybe every other bw stream? I'm kinda failing to see how this doesn't turn into the 30-200 viewer count we're seeing on the sidebar right now. Where two players have 200 and everyone else is at around 50.

Hiya got around 600 yesterday while he was doing some kind of show match, which sounds about right. I would expect every time they do a show match they can get around 500, but I don't think that's reflective of their average throughout each day, which is what was originally being discussed.

I doubt very much it's easily accessible if you don't know about it lol.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 25 2014 12:34 GMT
#78
Wow that's awesome!
ॐ
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
October 25 2014 12:49 GMT
#79
i get tons of buffering whenever I try and watch them
is that just my internet being slow?
brood war for life, brood war forever
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
October 25 2014 13:04 GMT
#80
lets see some bisu numbers shall we
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
October 25 2014 13:13 GMT
#81
On October 25 2014 21:49 Crunchums wrote:
i get tons of buffering whenever I try and watch them
is that just my internet being slow?

got the same:/
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
October 25 2014 14:44 GMT
#82
On October 25 2014 15:52 HeyImFinn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 15:32 Shock710 wrote:
O_O silverlight can do stuff, i had it install ages ago cause of a windows update and i was like wtf is this shit O_o probably useless, ignore for 2 years and now it does something :O

Netflix? Joking aside, I'm stoked. I can finally watch 린아씨 live!~

Hey, you're Finn!
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[image loading]

Fatty loser
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 16:10:05
October 25 2014 16:09 GMT
#83
On October 25 2014 22:13 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 21:49 Crunchums wrote:
i get tons of buffering whenever I try and watch them
is that just my internet being slow?

got the same:/


Yeah, it was smooth for me before today, but now it buffers a lot on many streams. Hopefully temporary.
T P Z sagi
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 18:00:44
October 25 2014 17:54 GMT
#84
On October 25 2014 21:06 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
If you don't know much about something, consider not posting uninformed opinion about it(especially when the truth is easily accessible).

"The truth" is missing lots of important details, like what "Total" includes.+ Show Spoiler +
In any case, it looks like Total - Bisu + Terror frequently doesn't get much more than 5k combined. So LoveTV and all the other competitions, maybe, then all the pros, then maybe every other bw stream? I'm kinda failing to see how this doesn't turn into the 30-200 viewer count we're seeing on the sidebar right now. Where two players have 200 and everyone else is at around 50.

Hiya got around 600 yesterday while he was doing some kind of show match, which sounds about right. I would expect every time they do a show match they can get around 500, but I don't think that's reflective of their average throughout each day, which is what was originally being discussed.

I doubt very much it's easily accessible if you don't know about it lol.


What you feel is a reasonable viewer count [you stated less than 100], is completely irrelevant, when the actual viewer counts are available. There is no point in posting any opinions and justifications about "reasonable" viewer counts, when you could instead post information about the actual viewer counts.

You missed the part about many BW streamers are among the top viewed on Afreeca. The info is on TL (among other places), feel free to find it.


As for Terror..
On October 24 2014 23:50 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
[image loading]
max ~52800

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/469728-terror-unbanned-from-afreeca?page=3#50

Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
October 25 2014 20:15 GMT
#85
Is it not possible for the foreign viewers to register an Afreeca account and then chat on the same chat channel as the Koreans?
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 25 2014 20:34 GMT
#86
On October 26 2014 05:15 Birdie wrote:
Is it not possible for the foreign viewers to register an Afreeca account and then chat on the same chat channel as the Koreans?

I'm asked to install the plugin like before (never worked for me), and even if I did that as a foreigner I doubt I can chat considering I can't post comments anywhere on the site without verification.
En Taro Violet
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 25 2014 20:35 GMT
#87
On October 26 2014 05:15 Birdie wrote:
Is it not possible for the foreign viewers to register an Afreeca account and then chat on the same chat channel as the Koreans?


got a korean SSN?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
HeyImFinn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 21:22:50
October 25 2014 21:18 GMT
#88
On October 25 2014 23:44 SynC[gm] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 15:52 HeyImFinn wrote:
On October 25 2014 15:32 Shock710 wrote:
O_O silverlight can do stuff, i had it install ages ago cause of a windows update and i was like wtf is this shit O_o probably useless, ignore for 2 years and now it does something :O

Netflix? Joking aside, I'm stoked. I can finally watch 린아씨 live!~

Hey, you're Finn!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Fatty loser

Ironically, my name isn't originally from AT.
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Me_ToKa
Profile Joined September 2009
Bulgaria309 Posts
October 26 2014 07:17 GMT
#89
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote:
lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!!

User was warned for this post

Turn off other streams so you can have only sc2 streams in your view...
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 26 2014 07:59 GMT
#90
and terror still not featured t_t
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
ExBoshy
Profile Joined June 2014
118 Posts
October 26 2014 10:55 GMT
#91
Bisu doesn't have protoss icon next to him
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9499 Posts
October 26 2014 12:16 GMT
#92
I've added an embedded IRC chat channel to all direct afreeca streams to deal with this problem of not having a place to chat about the games. The chat channel is #teamliquidbw on Quakenet, which is actually an old TL BW channel which served for people to talk about BW and find games and stuff. It hasn't been that much active lately, but hopefully now more people will use it to talk about anything BW. We're only using a single channel for now to see how it will go; but if it becomes pretty popular we can split all streams to their own chat channels so people don't talk over each other etc.

Using the embedded IRC chat is even simpler than using the twitch chat (since you don't even have to register anywhere). Just click on the 'Toggle channel' below the stream, enter your name and click 'Join chat'. In the spoiler, you can see a picture which clarifies it even further:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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nekotrap
Profile Joined April 2011
130 Posts
October 26 2014 12:42 GMT
#93
R1CH sugoi!

[image loading]

It's so lovely to see a number like that on the TL sidebar for BW.
And if Terror gets featured, well...
A broken carrot is more than enough for the likes of you
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
October 26 2014 12:52 GMT
#94
R1CH is a beast. Thanks so much !!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
October 26 2014 13:49 GMT
#95
I can't connect to any of the streams now? Anyone else have same issue?
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
October 26 2014 13:50 GMT
#96
Oh wow how did I miss that. Thank you R1CH <3
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1554 Posts
October 26 2014 14:32 GMT
#97
On October 26 2014 22:49 kogeT wrote:
I can't connect to any of the streams now? Anyone else have same issue?


yeah
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 26 2014 14:39 GMT
#98
On October 26 2014 23:32 iFU.pauline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 22:49 kogeT wrote:
I can't connect to any of the streams now? Anyone else have same issue?


yeah

seems to be global
En Taro Violet
TerranZerg
Profile Joined May 2013
Russian Federation145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-26 15:10:08
October 26 2014 15:07 GMT
#99
wrong thread
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
October 26 2014 15:24 GMT
#100
this is so cool.
nice job with the stream list and making the chat!
rip passion
shizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia127 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-26 15:59:21
October 26 2014 15:58 GMT
#101
On October 26 2014 21:16 2Pacalypse- wrote:
I've added an embedded IRC chat channel to all direct afreeca streams to deal with this problem of not having a place to chat about the games. The chat channel is #teamliquidbw on Quakenet, which is actually an old TL BW channel which served for people to talk about BW and find games and stuff. It hasn't been that much active lately, but hopefully now more people will use it to talk about anything BW. We're only using a single channel for now to see how it will go; but if it becomes pretty popular we can split all streams to their own chat channels so people don't talk over each other etc.

Using the embedded IRC chat is even simpler than using the twitch chat (since you don't even have to register anywhere). Just click on the 'Toggle channel' below the stream, enter your name and click 'Join chat'. In the spoiler, you can see a picture which clarifies it even further:

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Nice addition, thanks for this. Lets hope it takes off.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1969 Posts
October 26 2014 18:28 GMT
#102
Thx! This is awesome!

On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote:
lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!!

User was warned for this post


Turn of Broodwar streams. BTW someone posting something like this in a sc2 thread would have gotten a temp ban...
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palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
October 26 2014 18:51 GMT
#103
On October 27 2014 03:28 TaShadan wrote:
Thx! This is awesome!

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 22:12 lantz wrote:
lame, taking away from the sc2 spotlight. These are usually just those who could not succeed in sc2!!!

User was warned for this post


Turn of Broodwar streams. BTW someone posting something like this in a sc2 thread would have gotten a temp ban...


I agree with you TaShadan, where is the temp ban?
Tonkerchen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
680 Posts
October 26 2014 19:11 GMT
#104
these are definitely good times for BW! imo watching high quality broodwar games is simply more worth the time than sc2.
gogo larva & shuttle

btw, till now I've been watching those games on snipealot twitch restreams. do i contribute something to the players with that way? now there only afreeca streams in the sidebar, something changed. Unfortunately I can't handle those streams/players since they're loading all the time but nothing appears. it's a proxy story problem, isn't it?
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 26 2014 19:17 GMT
#105
On October 27 2014 04:11 Tonkerchen wrote:
these are definitely good times for BW! imo watching high quality broodwar games is simply more worth the time than sc2.
gogo larva & shuttle

btw, till now I've been watching those games on snipealot twitch restreams. do i contribute something to the players with that way? now there only afreeca streams in the sidebar, something changed. Unfortunately I can't handle those streams/players since they're loading all the time but nothing appears. it's a proxy story problem, isn't it?
bw4ever


Snipe streams are still up. They're unfeatured but they are still there (Dont like the unfeaturing :/ )
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Regis
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-26 19:28:52
October 26 2014 19:28 GMT
#106
On October 27 2014 04:17 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 04:11 Tonkerchen wrote:
these are definitely good times for BW! imo watching high quality broodwar games is simply more worth the time than sc2.
gogo larva & shuttle

btw, till now I've been watching those games on snipealot twitch restreams. do i contribute something to the players with that way? now there only afreeca streams in the sidebar, something changed. Unfortunately I can't handle those streams/players since they're loading all the time but nothing appears. it's a proxy story problem, isn't it?
bw4ever


Snipe streams are still up. They're unfeatured but they are still there (Dont like the unfeaturing :/ )



lets say true. For me looks like TL fucked all snipealot channels, all their works. RIP Snipe, thanks for all the works.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6578 Posts
October 26 2014 19:36 GMT
#107
On October 27 2014 04:28 Regis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 04:17 amazingxkcd wrote:
On October 27 2014 04:11 Tonkerchen wrote:
these are definitely good times for BW! imo watching high quality broodwar games is simply more worth the time than sc2.
gogo larva & shuttle

btw, till now I've been watching those games on snipealot twitch restreams. do i contribute something to the players with that way? now there only afreeca streams in the sidebar, something changed. Unfortunately I can't handle those streams/players since they're loading all the time but nothing appears. it's a proxy story problem, isn't it?
bw4ever


Snipe streams are still up. They're unfeatured but they are still there (Dont like the unfeaturing :/ )



lets say true. For me looks like TL fucked all snipealot channels, all their works. RIP Snipe, thanks for all the works.

to be fair watching snipealots numbers are pretty much the same before the change.
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland299 Posts
October 26 2014 20:06 GMT
#108
For most europeans snipealot is the only way to watch afreeca stream due to lag.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 27 2014 02:43 GMT
#109
completely lag free from Japan, amazing
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
October 27 2014 03:13 GMT
#110
this is so fucking sick
can i get my estro logo back pls
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
October 27 2014 03:50 GMT
#111
Why has Mong been streaming some Korean textile factory documentary for the past two days? -_-
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broodwar2.0
Profile Joined October 2013
Niue229 Posts
October 27 2014 05:01 GMT
#112
its some populair tv comedy show in kr if i understood it right
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
October 27 2014 07:26 GMT
#113
I would like that snipe is refeatured or atleast some way to swap them with the direct afreeca streams since it works sooooo much better
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 27 2014 13:09 GMT
#114
Brood War boooys!
The Bomber boy
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-27 19:39:18
October 27 2014 19:37 GMT
#115
Whats happened to snipealot and bgvrt (I might be wrong with nickame, but there was second guy who was restreaming afreeca streams)? I miss them like A LOT, because this afreeca streams on the right side are totally useless. They are just unwatchable, this is like non stop slideshow, at least from EU.

[edit] Ive found them unfeatured.. how dare you to do this?.. I feel betrayed for them T_T
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
October 27 2014 20:40 GMT
#116
Sonic and LoveTV streams should be placed under Organizations, rather than unfeatured streams (in my opinion).
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 27 2014 21:50 GMT
#117
On October 28 2014 04:37 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
Whats happened to snipealot and bgvrt (I might be wrong with nickame, but there was second guy who was restreaming afreeca streams)? I miss them like A LOT, because this afreeca streams on the right side are totally useless. They are just unwatchable, this is like non stop slideshow, at least from EU.

[edit] Ive found them unfeatured.. how dare you to do this?.. I feel betrayed for them T_T

they got unfeatured because it became cluttered or something. I think 2pac posted about it somewhere around here lol.
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
October 28 2014 00:56 GMT
#118
Can't they just stream with Twitch ? I tried to watch some good old BW, but I literally can't. This afreeca thing is just unwatchable from Europe. And there is no quality options. I'm pretty sure that Sea(for example, because he is online now) has Twitch account and was streaming with twitch in the past.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 28 2014 01:10 GMT
#119
if u go to their stream page u can favourite them and always have then in ur right side bar
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 28 2014 03:52 GMT
#120
On October 28 2014 09:56 Pr0wler wrote:
Can't they just stream with Twitch ? I tried to watch some good old BW, but I literally can't. This afreeca thing is just unwatchable from Europe. And there is no quality options. I'm pretty sure that Sea(for example, because he is online now) has Twitch account and was streaming with twitch in the past.


Snipe streams are still up and running for ya. Just watch that instead
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1554 Posts
October 28 2014 10:48 GMT
#121
why best stream isn't showing?

http://play.afreeca.com/rjsrkdgkwk12
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AleXoundOS
Profile Joined January 2011
Georgia457 Posts
October 28 2014 10:55 GMT
#122
On October 28 2014 19:48 iFU.pauline wrote:
why best stream isn't showing?

http://play.afreeca.com/rjsrkdgkwk12

There are generally few zergs among the players showed in the sidebar and many other players are missing.
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myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 17:54:47
October 28 2014 17:53 GMT
#123
So is the current amount of BW stream viewers is the amount of tl ppl + afreeca or is it just tl viewers? Cause last several days I see a crazy jump in the quantity of BW viewers.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
October 28 2014 20:26 GMT
#124
On October 29 2014 02:53 myminerals wrote:
So is the current amount of BW stream viewers is the amount of tl ppl + afreeca or is it just tl viewers? Cause last several days I see a crazy jump in the quantity of BW viewers.

It's the amount of TL people + Afreeca, but I don't think the numbers are being counted correctly if I understood what some people said. Something like it only includes mobile viewers, not desktop viewers?
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myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
October 28 2014 20:55 GMT
#125
On October 29 2014 05:26 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 02:53 myminerals wrote:
So is the current amount of BW stream viewers is the amount of tl ppl + afreeca or is it just tl viewers? Cause last several days I see a crazy jump in the quantity of BW viewers.

It's the amount of TL people + Afreeca, but I don't think the numbers are being counted correctly if I understood what some people said. Something like it only includes mobile viewers, not desktop viewers?

Still, glad to see ppl not abandoning bw steams. While myself don't play BW anymore, I frequently have a morning sandwich or lunch in front of the screen watching afreeca.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 28 2014 23:10 GMT
#126
On October 29 2014 05:26 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 02:53 myminerals wrote:
So is the current amount of BW stream viewers is the amount of tl ppl + afreeca or is it just tl viewers? Cause last several days I see a crazy jump in the quantity of BW viewers.

It's the amount of TL people + Afreeca, but I don't think the numbers are being counted correctly if I understood what some people said. Something like it only includes mobile viewers, not desktop viewers?

lol you reversed it. The number includes desktop but not mobile viewers afaik.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 29 2014 02:52 GMT
#127
seems Sea himself has found out about the new afreeca streams being featured here on TL.
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
October 29 2014 03:41 GMT
#128
On October 29 2014 11:52 Probemicro wrote:
seems Sea himself has found out about the new afreeca streams being featured here on TL.

Is that why his stream's listed as mature now?
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
October 29 2014 05:13 GMT
#129
sea doesn't want non-koreans to watch his stream? ;_;
rip passion
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 29 2014 05:49 GMT
#130
how did sea take finding out that his afreeca stream is now on TL is this bad for him in some way? like how twitch as ad's i havnt seen ads on afreeca is that because there arent any or rather that if u view from TL u dont see them and he doesnt get anything.
Or is it an account thing? where u buy an afreeca account to watch streams and we're somehow by-passing it?
D:
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
broodwar2.0
Profile Joined October 2013
Niue229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 09:24:50
October 29 2014 09:24 GMT
#131
you guys are really on a sidetrack here lol u can select 19+ stream as BJ urself if it just features ''mature content'' what ever that may mean in korea ie drunk bisu or mature language use or take it to the next step terrors stream etcetcetc
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flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
October 29 2014 09:51 GMT
#132
On October 29 2014 08:10 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 05:26 Birdie wrote:
On October 29 2014 02:53 myminerals wrote:
So is the current amount of BW stream viewers is the amount of tl ppl + afreeca or is it just tl viewers? Cause last several days I see a crazy jump in the quantity of BW viewers.

It's the amount of TL people + Afreeca, but I don't think the numbers are being counted correctly if I understood what some people said. Something like it only includes mobile viewers, not desktop viewers?

lol you reversed it. The number includes desktop but not mobile viewers afaik.


No, the numbers on the sidebar are total viewers, which includes both mobile and desktop viewers.
AleXoundOS
Profile Joined January 2011
Georgia457 Posts
November 09 2014 07:05 GMT
#133
The afreeca sidebar disappeared?
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
November 09 2014 07:26 GMT
#134
it seems to be going on and off these days..
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 09 2014 08:48 GMT
#135
As an old (casual) BW player/watcher I am really happy to see the huge viewer numbers on the BW streams on the sidebar! Gogo pro bw scene!!
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 12:57:05
November 09 2014 12:51 GMT
#136
Why can't I watch streams??

Ok I used google translate for this "방송이 종료되었습니다." Apparently it means that stream is cancelled. But oh no, Bisu is live and has 2k viewers. Same with Larva...

And mongs stream "일시적인 오류로 방송이 종료되었습니다. 재생 버튼을 클릭하여 다시 입장해주시기 바랍니다." means that it was a problem to load but please try again by pressing play. Nope. God I hate afreeca. Snipealot for featured!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
November 09 2014 13:06 GMT
#137
On November 09 2014 21:51 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Why can't I watch streams??

Ok I used google translate for this "방송이 종료되었습니다." Apparently it means that stream is cancelled. But oh no, Bisu is live and has 2k viewers. Same with Larva...

And mongs stream "일시적인 오류로 방송이 종료되었습니다. 재생 버튼을 클릭하여 다시 입장해주시기 바랍니다." means that it was a problem to load but please try again by pressing play. Nope. God I hate afreeca. Snipealot for featured!


The sidebar seem to have frozen at the point of time and stopped updating. Someone maybe can fix -_-
shizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia127 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-10 00:13:05
November 10 2014 00:08 GMT
#138
On November 09 2014 21:51 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Why can't I watch streams??

Ok I used google translate for this "방송이 종료되었습니다." Apparently it means that stream is cancelled. But oh no, Bisu is live and has 2k viewers. Same with Larva...

And mongs stream "일시적인 오류로 방송이 종료되었습니다. 재생 버튼을 클릭하여 다시 입장해주시기 바랍니다." means that it was a problem to load but please try again by pressing play. Nope. God I hate afreeca. Snipealot for featured!


Just to note, but you will get this if you try to watch more than one stream at a time. To get around this, open additional streams in their own incognito window.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
November 10 2014 13:29 GMT
#139
If the list isn't updating it probably means Afreeca's API is timing out. It should resolve itself after a random amount of time.
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