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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
September 09 2013 05:39 GMT
#101
How liberating!
He could become a model.
I hope he streams games.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
September 09 2013 05:46 GMT
#102
On September 09 2013 14:21 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
I just hope that short break isn't like just a few months. It'll be great to see Bisu playing BW again, and from FPVIEW! OMG!

He seems to be in better form than Jangbi atm, judging solely from the game where Bisu pretty much humiliated Larva in that one game on Larva's stream.

I mean it's just 1 game in 1 matchup, but it's kinda important to be good at PvZ atm. Jangbi has been kinda out of form in that department.

If anyone remembers those times that they have flashed up Bisu's FPView briefly in official games, and marvelled at how good his multi-task is, imagine that hours on end. We are going to get migraines from watching his stream :D

So hyped for this, migraine toss gogo! :D


My experience in watching Bisu's FPVODs is similar to my experience when I played Quake 3. At first, I couldn't stand more than 3 minutes of it. I had no idea what the fuck was going on, it was headache-inducing, and it seemed almost inhuman to play at a decent level, let alone a professional level. Afterwards, I got used to the game and then enjoyed it. Later on, when I got better, I realized just how amazing the little things are: from memorizing the ramp/portal positions (similar to rally points for probes and units) so you can jump into them without looking at them, to the small strafe moves that can make or break your game (probably like Bisu's small unit micro with goons and lots), to the absolutely flashy plays with rails and rockets (like Bisu's harass with reavers/HTs).

Bisu's FPVOD is the cleanest of all the "inhuman mechanics" monsters I've seen (i.e. Jaedong, Baby, Jangbi, Kal, Effort, Hydra, Leta) and is probably the second most impressive to watch behind Flash's FPVOD (the kid is just so efficient at playing it's mind boggling - I think his EAPM from the replays of his prime is just as high as Bisu's, around 250, even if Bisu's APM is 100 higher at 350 vs 450).
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
September 09 2013 05:51 GMT
#103
Come back to us KTY!!! Having those glorious locks cut off can wait for another couple of years.
viermalvier
Profile Joined December 2009
Austria115 Posts
September 09 2013 06:30 GMT
#104
On September 09 2013 13:18 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 12:59 Caladbolg wrote:
If I see Shine "retiring" from SC2 in a couple of weeks I will go nuts.


Same here, Shine retires from SC2 to continue cheesing Bisu in BW and making Bisu fans rage :D

http://i35.tinypic.com/w9ih5d.jpg

really hope he start streaming :3
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 09 2013 06:31 GMT
#105
oh the first thing i thought about was his hair
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 07:09:50
September 09 2013 07:06 GMT
#106
On September 09 2013 14:46 Caladbolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 14:21 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
I just hope that short break isn't like just a few months. It'll be great to see Bisu playing BW again, and from FPVIEW! OMG!

He seems to be in better form than Jangbi atm, judging solely from the game where Bisu pretty much humiliated Larva in that one game on Larva's stream.

I mean it's just 1 game in 1 matchup, but it's kinda important to be good at PvZ atm. Jangbi has been kinda out of form in that department.

If anyone remembers those times that they have flashed up Bisu's FPView briefly in official games, and marvelled at how good his multi-task is, imagine that hours on end. We are going to get migraines from watching his stream :D

So hyped for this, migraine toss gogo! :D


My experience in watching Bisu's FPVODs is similar to my experience when I played Quake 3. At first, I couldn't stand more than 3 minutes of it. I had no idea what the fuck was going on, it was headache-inducing, and it seemed almost inhuman to play at a decent level, let alone a professional level. Afterwards, I got used to the game and then enjoyed it. Later on, when I got better, I realized just how amazing the little things are: from memorizing the ramp/portal positions (similar to rally points for probes and units) so you can jump into them without looking at them, to the small strafe moves that can make or break your game (probably like Bisu's small unit micro with goons and lots), to the absolutely flashy plays with rails and rockets (like Bisu's harass with reavers/HTs).

Bisu's FPVOD is the cleanest of all the "inhuman mechanics" monsters I've seen (i.e. Jaedong, Baby, Jangbi, Kal, Effort, Hydra, Leta) and is probably the second most impressive to watch behind Flash's FPVOD (the kid is just so efficient at playing it's mind boggling - I think his EAPM from the replays of his prime is just as high as Bisu's, around 250, even if Bisu's APM is 100 higher at 350 vs 450).


Bisu's apm is on average low 300's most games, I think he only gets to 400 average on really really intense games, in his early/mid career, by his late career he and Flash are pretty much the same speed APMwise (Flash is actually faster when playing bio). He gets a reputation for being really really fast, but he's actually not. I mean his APM is up there, but it's actually lower than some other protosses (eg Jangbi, who's between 350-400). It's really the rate that he switches from 1 place on the map to another that sets him apart. He only does like 1 or 2 things in 1 place before switching again, so it's really hard to keep up with what his doing, but his handspeed is not superdooper fast like people seem to think it is.

If I were to take a guess, Flash and Bisu actually have similar EAPMs as well, which I guess is impressive in itself, as P's generally have lower EAPMs since there are few things to do that require pure handspeed, whereas T has stuff to do en mass that requires mechanical 'unthinking' clicking, eg placing a large minefield or keeping a large number of raxes running.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6634 Posts
September 09 2013 07:09 GMT
#107
Welcome back !
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 09 2013 07:11 GMT
#108
wheres my stream now
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3333 Posts
September 09 2013 07:19 GMT
#109
On September 09 2013 16:06 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 14:46 Caladbolg wrote:
On September 09 2013 14:21 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
I just hope that short break isn't like just a few months. It'll be great to see Bisu playing BW again, and from FPVIEW! OMG!

He seems to be in better form than Jangbi atm, judging solely from the game where Bisu pretty much humiliated Larva in that one game on Larva's stream.

I mean it's just 1 game in 1 matchup, but it's kinda important to be good at PvZ atm. Jangbi has been kinda out of form in that department.

If anyone remembers those times that they have flashed up Bisu's FPView briefly in official games, and marvelled at how good his multi-task is, imagine that hours on end. We are going to get migraines from watching his stream :D

So hyped for this, migraine toss gogo! :D


My experience in watching Bisu's FPVODs is similar to my experience when I played Quake 3. At first, I couldn't stand more than 3 minutes of it. I had no idea what the fuck was going on, it was headache-inducing, and it seemed almost inhuman to play at a decent level, let alone a professional level. Afterwards, I got used to the game and then enjoyed it. Later on, when I got better, I realized just how amazing the little things are: from memorizing the ramp/portal positions (similar to rally points for probes and units) so you can jump into them without looking at them, to the small strafe moves that can make or break your game (probably like Bisu's small unit micro with goons and lots), to the absolutely flashy plays with rails and rockets (like Bisu's harass with reavers/HTs).

Bisu's FPVOD is the cleanest of all the "inhuman mechanics" monsters I've seen (i.e. Jaedong, Baby, Jangbi, Kal, Effort, Hydra, Leta) and is probably the second most impressive to watch behind Flash's FPVOD (the kid is just so efficient at playing it's mind boggling - I think his EAPM from the replays of his prime is just as high as Bisu's, around 250, even if Bisu's APM is 100 higher at 350 vs 450).


Bisu's apm is on average low 300's most games, I think he only gets to 400 average on really really intense games, in his early/mid career, by his late career he and Flash are pretty much the same speed APMwise (Flash is actually faster when playing bio). He gets a reputation for being really really fast, but he's actually not. I mean his APM is up there, but it's actually lower than some other protosses (eg Jangbi, who's between 350-400). It's really the rate that he switches from 1 place on the map to another that sets him apart. He only does like 1 or 2 things in 1 place before switching again, so it's really hard to keep up with what his doing, but his handspeed is not superdooper fast like people seem to think it is.

If I were to take a guess, Flash and Bisu actually have similar EAPMs as well, which I guess is impressive in itself, as P's generally have lower EAPMs since there are few things to do that require pure handspeed, whereas T has stuff to do en mass that requires mechanical 'unthinking' clicking, eg placing a large minefield or keeping a large number of raxes running.

Um... Bisu has probably the highest peak APM as far as I know... oh wait maybe Hyuk where he stayed >450 the whole game but he's Hyuk~ But what sets Bisu apart is his high EAPM. His FPVODs are extremely clean as many casters have mentioned~ Here's Bisu's B.Net attack we can watch in hopes to seeing his stream up soon~

The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
September 09 2013 07:19 GMT
#110
On September 09 2013 16:06 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 14:46 Caladbolg wrote:
On September 09 2013 14:21 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
I just hope that short break isn't like just a few months. It'll be great to see Bisu playing BW again, and from FPVIEW! OMG!

He seems to be in better form than Jangbi atm, judging solely from the game where Bisu pretty much humiliated Larva in that one game on Larva's stream.

I mean it's just 1 game in 1 matchup, but it's kinda important to be good at PvZ atm. Jangbi has been kinda out of form in that department.

If anyone remembers those times that they have flashed up Bisu's FPView briefly in official games, and marvelled at how good his multi-task is, imagine that hours on end. We are going to get migraines from watching his stream :D

So hyped for this, migraine toss gogo! :D


My experience in watching Bisu's FPVODs is similar to my experience when I played Quake 3. At first, I couldn't stand more than 3 minutes of it. I had no idea what the fuck was going on, it was headache-inducing, and it seemed almost inhuman to play at a decent level, let alone a professional level. Afterwards, I got used to the game and then enjoyed it. Later on, when I got better, I realized just how amazing the little things are: from memorizing the ramp/portal positions (similar to rally points for probes and units) so you can jump into them without looking at them, to the small strafe moves that can make or break your game (probably like Bisu's small unit micro with goons and lots), to the absolutely flashy plays with rails and rockets (like Bisu's harass with reavers/HTs).

Bisu's FPVOD is the cleanest of all the "inhuman mechanics" monsters I've seen (i.e. Jaedong, Baby, Jangbi, Kal, Effort, Hydra, Leta) and is probably the second most impressive to watch behind Flash's FPVOD (the kid is just so efficient at playing it's mind boggling - I think his EAPM from the replays of his prime is just as high as Bisu's, around 250, even if Bisu's APM is 100 higher at 350 vs 450).


Bisu's apm is on average low 300's most games, I think he only gets to 400 average on really really intense games, in his early/mid career, by his late career he and Flash are pretty much the same speed APMwise (Flash is actually faster when playing bio). He gets a reputation for being really really fast, but he's actually not. I mean his APM is up there, but it's actually lower than some other protosses (eg Jangbi, who's between 350-400). It's really the rate that he switches from 1 place on the map to another that sets him apart. He only does like 1 or 2 things in 1 place before switching again, so it's really hard to keep up with what his doing, but his handspeed is not superdooper fast like people seem to think it is.

If I were to take a guess, Flash and Bisu actually have similar EAPMs as well, which I guess is impressive in itself, as P's generally have lower EAPMs since there are few things to do that require pure handspeed, whereas T has stuff to do en mass that requires mechanical 'unthinking' clicking, eg placing a large minefield or keeping a large number of raxes running.

Has busy already been playing? I just saw the mention of a game Against larva?
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 09 2013 07:23 GMT
#111
On September 09 2013 16:19 mcmartini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 16:06 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On September 09 2013 14:46 Caladbolg wrote:
On September 09 2013 14:21 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
I just hope that short break isn't like just a few months. It'll be great to see Bisu playing BW again, and from FPVIEW! OMG!

He seems to be in better form than Jangbi atm, judging solely from the game where Bisu pretty much humiliated Larva in that one game on Larva's stream.

I mean it's just 1 game in 1 matchup, but it's kinda important to be good at PvZ atm. Jangbi has been kinda out of form in that department.

If anyone remembers those times that they have flashed up Bisu's FPView briefly in official games, and marvelled at how good his multi-task is, imagine that hours on end. We are going to get migraines from watching his stream :D

So hyped for this, migraine toss gogo! :D


My experience in watching Bisu's FPVODs is similar to my experience when I played Quake 3. At first, I couldn't stand more than 3 minutes of it. I had no idea what the fuck was going on, it was headache-inducing, and it seemed almost inhuman to play at a decent level, let alone a professional level. Afterwards, I got used to the game and then enjoyed it. Later on, when I got better, I realized just how amazing the little things are: from memorizing the ramp/portal positions (similar to rally points for probes and units) so you can jump into them without looking at them, to the small strafe moves that can make or break your game (probably like Bisu's small unit micro with goons and lots), to the absolutely flashy plays with rails and rockets (like Bisu's harass with reavers/HTs).

Bisu's FPVOD is the cleanest of all the "inhuman mechanics" monsters I've seen (i.e. Jaedong, Baby, Jangbi, Kal, Effort, Hydra, Leta) and is probably the second most impressive to watch behind Flash's FPVOD (the kid is just so efficient at playing it's mind boggling - I think his EAPM from the replays of his prime is just as high as Bisu's, around 250, even if Bisu's APM is 100 higher at 350 vs 450).


Bisu's apm is on average low 300's most games, I think he only gets to 400 average on really really intense games, in his early/mid career, by his late career he and Flash are pretty much the same speed APMwise (Flash is actually faster when playing bio). He gets a reputation for being really really fast, but he's actually not. I mean his APM is up there, but it's actually lower than some other protosses (eg Jangbi, who's between 350-400). It's really the rate that he switches from 1 place on the map to another that sets him apart. He only does like 1 or 2 things in 1 place before switching again, so it's really hard to keep up with what his doing, but his handspeed is not superdooper fast like people seem to think it is.

If I were to take a guess, Flash and Bisu actually have similar EAPMs as well, which I guess is impressive in itself, as P's generally have lower EAPMs since there are few things to do that require pure handspeed, whereas T has stuff to do en mass that requires mechanical 'unthinking' clicking, eg placing a large minefield or keeping a large number of raxes running.

Has busy already been playing? I just saw the mention of a game Against larva?


Yeah during regular season. Bisu frequently sneaks on Afreeca to play BW.
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 07:37:58
September 09 2013 07:31 GMT
#112
Well... this is pretty big news.. DAMN !!! My favourite player !!!

I'm SOOOOO hoping that he is going to stream some BW ! And I think he won't miss such a big opportunity. It would be super beneficial for him to stream.

Can't wait !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3333 Posts
September 09 2013 07:33 GMT
#113
Here's a must-read for all Bisu fans out there~
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=56672
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1977 Posts
September 09 2013 07:36 GMT
#114
BISU!
Total Annihilation Zero
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 09 2013 07:38 GMT
#115
I think remembering a semi final with hero having over 500 apm average or even 600
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
September 09 2013 07:47 GMT
#116
--- Nuked ---
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 09 2013 07:52 GMT
#117
On September 09 2013 16:47 Jumperer wrote:
bisu is now streaming on snipealot2

that's super clever and funny


+ Show Spoiler +
not..
T H C makes ppl happy
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
September 09 2013 07:54 GMT
#118
On September 09 2013 12:46 BisuDagger wrote:
edit: spoiler that horrible gif plz ^ <3

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 12:36 ArvickHero wrote:
Even though his possibility of playing SOSPA makes me happy, I'm still really sad that he's had to retire in the end. He was so incredibly dedicated as a progamer, and the fact that he really couldn't see himself as anything BUT a progamer makes me even sadder .. I really wish him the best in whatever he does next.

      This sums it up really well for me. Being just a little older then bisu it feels like I just lost a childhood friend. I probably won't be posting or be around TL for a while now. I'm going to take this time to finally take a break from Starcraft. I'll still do my TL Staff work, but that may be it for a while. As a favor, instead of people mentioning how some of you dislike Bisu (whether it be him, his play, or because of annoying fanboys ) when its not necessary to point out, take the time to appreciate someone who had a large impact on your favorite game instead. I'll say more in a blog when I return. This is the end to a great chapter in my life and I'm very happy I got to share it with all of you on TL.

oh man

This is sort of good news if Bisu starts playing BW again, but its still the end of an era. TL should have a black ribbon on the banner or something.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50386 Posts
September 09 2013 07:56 GMT
#119
On September 09 2013 16:47 Jumperer wrote:
bisu is now streaming on snipealot2

lol
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HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
September 09 2013 08:00 GMT
#120
Glad to see Bisu is leaving that game. Really looking forward to seeing him stream and play on SSL!
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