BW General Discussion - Page 356

On July 27 2020 03:02 TaLIfy wrote:


Me neither. I don’t hate the story in and of itself. I think the story is silly since it’s basically about how one girl becomes the zerg jesus. I can’t get invested in that.

Potentially Interesting political actors like the Confederate nations, zerg broods, protoss tribes, etc are all tossed aside in favor of interpersonal melodrama. I wanted to see the aliens invading terran space, and the terrans defending themselves from the aliens. Typical military science fiction stuff. I find Starcraft’s attempt at story to be wasted potential.

Again, the plot of SC1 is about how a psychotic twenty something woman becomes the messiah to a bunch of alien locusts that eat planets. That is a b-movie plot at best. How does a sane person come up with something like that? That doesn’t make sense for a devouring swarm to do. Can you imagine the flood, necromorphs, tyranids, etc doing anything like that? I understand the zerg need characters to make their POV compelling to a human player (as the DoW2 tyranid campaign was hella boring), but outright humanizing them destroys what makes them interesting in the first place.

Fans of scifi devouring swarms like the tyranids are fans because devouring swarms by nature are relentless, pitiless, merciless, unfeeling, etc. They’re monstrous, destructive, and utterly inhuman. They don’t engage in diplomacy or moralizing or revenge, they just eat you because you’re there! You play them because you want to indulge your id. Making their face/leader a psychotic succubus with daddy/boyfriend issues is absurd on its face.

However, fanboys will try to argue that this is the best story ever (it’s b-movie quality at best) and any suggestion that it isn’t perfect is evil heresy. It’s really frustrating. Talking to nostalgic fanboys is like bashing my head against cinderblocks.

“Kerry is a special snowflake! The plot totally makes sense! Blah blah blah.”

The weird thing is that the same people who put SC1 on an undeserved pedestal say that SC2 is the worst story ever. While SC2 is a bad story, that does not make SC1 a good story. That is not how critical analysis works.

If Blizzard ever makes a SC3 (or whatever other continuation, like an FPS, MOBA, RTT, mobile shovelware, etc), then I’m curious as to whether they’ll keep the zergs as peaceful space orcs... or reverse all of that development and make them the main villains like they were in SC1. All of the zerg lore besides Kerry’s forced hero role describes them as biological horrors that twist everything around them into a living nightmare.

On July 27 2020 03:02 TaLIfy wrote:


Me neither. I don’t hate the story in and of itself. I think the story is silly since it’s basically about how one girl becomes the zerg jesus. I can’t get invested in that.

Potentially Interesting political actors like the Confederate nations, zerg broods, protoss tribes, etc are all tossed aside in favor of interpersonal melodrama. I wanted to see the aliens invading terran space, and the terrans defending themselves from the aliens. Typical military science fiction stuff. I find Starcraft’s attempt at story to be wasted potential.

Again, the plot of SC1 is about how a psychotic twenty something woman becomes the messiah to a bunch of alien locusts that eat planets. That is a b-movie plot at best. How does a sane person come up with something like that? That doesn’t make sense for a devouring swarm to do. Can you imagine the flood, necromorphs, tyranids, etc doing anything like that? I understand the zerg need characters to make their POV compelling to a human player (as the DoW2 tyranid campaign was hella boring), but outright humanizing them destroys what makes them interesting in the first place.

Fans of scifi devouring swarms like the tyranids are fans because devouring swarms by nature are relentless, pitiless, merciless, unfeeling, etc. They’re monstrous, destructive, and utterly inhuman. They don’t engage in diplomacy or moralizing or revenge, they just eat you because you’re there! You play them because you want to indulge your id. Making their face/leader a psychotic succubus with daddy/boyfriend issues is absurd on its face.

However, fanboys will try to argue that this is the best story ever (it’s b-movie quality at best) and any suggestion that it isn’t perfect is evil heresy. It’s really frustrating. Talking to nostalgic fanboys is like bashing my head against cinderblocks.

“Kerry is a special snowflake! The plot totally makes sense! Blah blah blah.”

The weird thing is that the same people who put SC1 on an undeserved pedestal say that SC2 is the worst story ever. While SC2 is a bad story, that does not make SC1 a good story. That is not how critical analysis works.

If Blizzard ever makes a SC3 (or whatever other continuation, like an FPS, MOBA, RTT, mobile shovelware, etc), then I’m curious as to whether they’ll keep the zergs as peaceful space orcs... or reverse all of that development and make them the main villains like they were in SC1. All of the zerg lore besides Kerry’s forced hero role describes them as biological horrors that twist everything around them into a living nightmare.

On July 29 2020 00:47 TaLIfy wrote:

having the zerg culture explored

On July 29 2020 00:47 TaLIfy wrote:
And don't even get me started at how absurd it was that, when the zerg were invading terran space, the terran storyline was about rebels fighting against the government when they clearly have more important things to worry about. [...] You have an interstellar war setting, and that's the only story you can think up to introduce people to the lore?

On August 01 2020 16:05 Timebon3s wrote:
Is there any english commentary of ASTL? If no, is there any way to view them in the right order? All I find is korean vods on youtube

On August 01 2020 22:55 Return wrote:


Eonzerg casted some of the early ones often with a guest. Him and seriosity will cast the final. Its on eonzergs afreeca(he uploaded them to Youtube but it got taken down)