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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 07 2013 23:05 GMT
#121
Only $650 for Bisu? rofl. Maybe this means BW is making a comeback.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
mOojc
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia460 Posts
August 07 2013 23:20 GMT
#122
I would happily pay for 5 Bisus, 3 Tossgirls and maybe 1 sSak if I have some spare cash.
Larvator
Profile Joined May 2013
Ukraine87 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 00:43:35
August 08 2013 00:43 GMT
#123
People here complaining about how "cheap" Bisu is. But don't forget he'll be playing a game he was (or maybe still is) very fond of and he don't have to train hard to play this ShowMatch. So maybe in this event fun>money for Bisu.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hope this event will happen. It sounds too good to be true.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 08 2013 01:01 GMT
#124
Looks like it's still at 2250 CNY, which it was when I checked before the SRT broadcast today. :/
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 01:06:49
August 08 2013 01:06 GMT
#125
On August 08 2013 07:52 Sevre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:14 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 07 2013 05:58 Sevre wrote:
I hope this doesn't signal the end of Bisu's career, his results in HotS have been improving and it seems like it's only his mindset that's holding him back. I know he's not a top priority for SKT1 but I'm still hoping he hits his stride in SC2.

I do. I would rather watch Bisu periodically play BW then be on a SC2 team and play every game. I love SKT1 and wish them the best, but Bisu's talent is wasted playing protoss in SC2.


I know where you're coming from, but it saddens me to see Flash and Jaedong steamroll ahead in SC2 while Bisu is forgotten about. From his interviews it seems like he just lacks confidence, so I hope he can get over those mental obstacles and become a dominant force like his old rivals again. If that doesn't work out though then I'd rather seem him play BW than anything else.


Bisu has actually looked fairly impressive in PvZ lately. His weakness is the mirror.

On August 08 2013 10:01 KristofferAG wrote:
Looks like it's still at 2250 CNY, which it was when I checked before the SRT broadcast today. :/


Find me a way to pay only for Tossgirl and I'll donate
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Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
August 08 2013 02:32 GMT
#126
On August 08 2013 04:14 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 05:58 Sevre wrote:
I hope this doesn't signal the end of Bisu's career, his results in HotS have been improving and it seems like it's only his mindset that's holding him back. I know he's not a top priority for SKT1 but I'm still hoping he hits his stride in SC2.

I do. I would rather watch Bisu periodically play BW then be on a SC2 team and play every game. I love SKT1 and wish them the best, but Bisu's talent is wasted playing protoss in SC2.


as soon as the last ssl was announced i forgot about sc2. the more stars coming back to brood war the better.
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
August 08 2013 03:49 GMT
#127
I really hope all the players I loved from BW still go strong in SC2 just cuz theyre awesome, but when they decide they're done with SC2 in their own time I really hope that they'll come back the the game which forged them, and hopefully they have many years worth of good memories of. c:
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
tickingpig
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 04:11:11
August 08 2013 04:10 GMT
#128
Bisu asked for 4000 CNY to play a bo5 online.......or just some Chinese want to pay that much to watch Bisu's play?
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
August 08 2013 13:28 GMT
#129
tossgirl please
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#130
On August 08 2013 12:49 traceurling wrote:
I really hope all the players I loved from BW still go strong in SC2 just cuz theyre awesome, but when they decide they're done with SC2 in their own time I really hope that they'll come back the the game which forged them, and hopefully they have many years worth of good memories of. c:


Probably too late for that. KT Rolster is supposedly dropping about half their players. (And before anyone asks, Flash was MVP this year, so he probably made the cut). Presumably, every good SC2 player on an ESF team is going to be snapped up by KeSPA teams, and then we'll have 9 SC2 teams in Korea (The 8 BW teams minus ACE and plus IM and Startale), and a lot of unemployed people who are really good at BW.

Bisu is probably facing a big pay cut from his BW glory, but he could maybe stay an SC2 player if he wanted to....which is a big if. Stork, however, fucking sucks at SC2 (he has a 13% win rate!), and also has been one of the most vocal about not liking SC2. I'd be surprised if Stork didn't go back to BW, if he can make hundreds of dollars an hour at it. He's the biggest "name" I'd give good odds to returning to BW.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 08 2013 19:40 GMT
#131
You really think Stork could make hundreds of dollars an hour from streaming? I don't know man. I hope a lot of these guys are doing something else on the side (hopefully!). I have a hard time believing these guys are making a living off of BW now afreeca or not.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 08 2013 20:45 GMT
#132
On August 09 2013 04:40 StarStruck wrote:
You really think Stork could make hundreds of dollars an hour from streaming?


Not from streaming, but if Bisu's getting $650 to play a Bo5....

(Also, we should all tweet Jaedong's boss (https://twitter.com/SirScoots) asking for some BW content. I bet we can actually get some Jaedong BW showmatches if we bug them enough)
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 08 2013 23:25 GMT
#133
On August 09 2013 05:45 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:40 StarStruck wrote:
You really think Stork could make hundreds of dollars an hour from streaming?


Not from streaming, but if Bisu's getting $650 to play a Bo5....

(Also, we should all tweet Jaedong's boss (https://twitter.com/SirScoots) asking for some BW content. I bet we can actually get some Jaedong BW showmatches if we bug them enough)


I'm down. Would be interesting to see where he stands vs the current SOSPA scene.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 08 2013 23:46 GMT
#134
On August 09 2013 04:40 StarStruck wrote:
You really think Stork could make hundreds of dollars an hour from streaming? I don't know man. I hope a lot of these guys are doing something else on the side (hopefully!). I have a hard time believing these guys are making a living off of BW now afreeca or not.


best thing we can do is supporting the korean scene. If Sonic continues to work up his production/size with casters, better stream decent finals etc more people will come to BW. This grants a bigger price pool and generally more money influx/ at some point even sponsoring. And on the long run, the aim has to be to make BW attractive again to sponors, thats where the money always came from.

So, preach the gospel, spread the word, tell your clanmates from past days, reactivate who you can. Thats what we can do besides producing fan content, which is important too.

Don't get me wrong im in for supporting a showmatch or something from time to time, but in the long run it wont be sustainable. But it seems like Afreeca is the way to go today.
Broodwar for life!
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 09 2013 00:09 GMT
#135
On August 09 2013 08:46 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:40 StarStruck wrote:
You really think Stork could make hundreds of dollars an hour from streaming? I don't know man. I hope a lot of these guys are doing something else on the side (hopefully!). I have a hard time believing these guys are making a living off of BW now afreeca or not.


best thing we can do is supporting the korean scene. If Sonic continues to work up his production/size with casters, better stream decent finals etc more people will come to BW. This grants a bigger price pool and generally more money influx/ at some point even sponsoring. And on the long run, the aim has to be to make BW attractive again to sponors, thats where the money always came from.

So, preach the gospel, spread the word, tell your clanmates from past days, reactivate who you can. Thats what we can do besides producing fan content, which is important too.

Don't get me wrong im in for supporting a showmatch or something from time to time, but in the long run it wont be sustainable. But it seems like Afreeca is the way to go today.


I strongly endorse this message.
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
August 09 2013 00:15 GMT
#136
Couple years later...
KeSPA: Fuck why'd we drop Brood War look how awesome Sonic is doing
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
August 09 2013 01:05 GMT
#137
I would personally pay Stork hundreds of dollars to return to BW. Sure just a one time payment is all I can afford, but I'd do it!

But anyway, Sonic should make a donation that 100% of the proceeds go to payouts for his tournaments. Has he considered this?
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
August 09 2013 01:21 GMT
#138
On August 09 2013 05:45 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:40 StarStruck wrote:
You really think Stork could make hundreds of dollars an hour from streaming?


Not from streaming, but if Bisu's getting $650 to play a Bo5....

(Also, we should all tweet Jaedong's boss (https://twitter.com/SirScoots) asking for some BW content. I bet we can actually get some Jaedong BW showmatches if we bug them enough)


Scott doesn't work for EG anymore.

You're looking for @OttersAreSoCool (Alex Garfield, CEO) and @Gosutrolling (Cody Connors, "evoli," player manager).
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
August 09 2013 01:24 GMT
#139
On August 09 2013 08:46 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:40 StarStruck wrote:
You really think Stork could make hundreds of dollars an hour from streaming? I don't know man. I hope a lot of these guys are doing something else on the side (hopefully!). I have a hard time believing these guys are making a living off of BW now afreeca or not.


best thing we can do is supporting the korean scene. If Sonic continues to work up his production/size with casters, better stream decent finals etc more people will come to BW. This grants a bigger price pool and generally more money influx/ at some point even sponsoring. And on the long run, the aim has to be to make BW attractive again to sponors, thats where the money always came from.

So, preach the gospel, spread the word, tell your clanmates from past days, reactivate who you can. Thats what we can do besides producing fan content, which is important too.

Don't get me wrong im in for supporting a showmatch or something from time to time, but in the long run it wont be sustainable. But it seems like Afreeca is the way to go today.

If Sonic's leagues star to grow too big, wouldn't that attract Blizzard's attention, and wouldn't they throw lawyers at him, or something?
Just curious
...
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 09 2013 01:29 GMT
#140
On August 09 2013 10:24 Ace Frehley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 08:46 Cele wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:40 StarStruck wrote:
You really think Stork could make hundreds of dollars an hour from streaming? I don't know man. I hope a lot of these guys are doing something else on the side (hopefully!). I have a hard time believing these guys are making a living off of BW now afreeca or not.


best thing we can do is supporting the korean scene. If Sonic continues to work up his production/size with casters, better stream decent finals etc more people will come to BW. This grants a bigger price pool and generally more money influx/ at some point even sponsoring. And on the long run, the aim has to be to make BW attractive again to sponors, thats where the money always came from.

So, preach the gospel, spread the word, tell your clanmates from past days, reactivate who you can. Thats what we can do besides producing fan content, which is important too.

Don't get me wrong im in for supporting a showmatch or something from time to time, but in the long run it wont be sustainable. But it seems like Afreeca is the way to go today.

If Sonic's leagues star to grow too big, wouldn't that attract Blizzard's attention, and wouldn't they throw lawyers at him, or something?
Just curious

They are definitely allowed to do so. Not sure it would end any better than the Blizzard vs. Kespa wars though.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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