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Sonic Starleague to resume again - Page 11

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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
December 18 2012 00:36 GMT
#201
Wow this is super freaking lame..
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 12:17:10
December 18 2012 12:16 GMT
#202
On December 12 2012 12:20 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 12:20 Kal_rA wrote:
On December 12 2012 12:13 ArvickHero wrote:
dunno what ppl are saying about BW stagnating by the last real Proleague. If you mean like the top 4 players always dominating, yea I guess, but the game was still evolving and entertaining as hell.

Shirokaisen explains it pretty well (sponsors were hella concerned about image) couple posts above.

One of the main reasons why BW continued to evolve (even during the last pl) was cause of new kespa maps every season. Won't be getting any more of those so the meta game is bound to stagnate now (not to mention the end of properly televised proleague / OSL / MSL / teamhouses / insane practice hours from the best players on the planet)..


Who said Rose.of.Dream had to design them?

Wasn't one of the great map things about kespa / proleague: during off season all teams would test out the new maps and report back any imbas for fixing. It was a very detailed and strcutured process to get a good map into the map pool.

Sure we can have and will have other map makers, but lets not ignore the value that is no longer offered because of the death of (bw) proleague.

Also sucks about this matchfixing...
Jaedong.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
December 21 2012 23:07 GMT
#203
A LITTLE BIT OF A MAJOR UPDATE.

On December 22 2012 06:37 rotinegg wrote:
Just to elaborate, Lee Seung Won and Kim Carrier will be casting the entirety of the SSL, starting from the Ro32. This is awesome.


SEE OP AND REJOICE!!!!
En Taro Violet
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 21 2012 23:19 GMT
#204
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSL8
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
jjwhg
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States155 Posts
December 21 2012 23:27 GMT
#205
On December 22 2012 08:07 Stratos wrote:
A LITTLE BIT OF A MAJOR UPDATE.

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 06:37 rotinegg wrote:
Just to elaborate, Lee Seung Won and Kim Carrier will be casting the entirety of the SSL, starting from the Ro32. This is awesome.


SEE OP AND REJOICE!!!!


So excited for this to start up!
♥ Bisu ♥
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 21 2012 23:56 GMT
#206
Great news! GL, keep rolling!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
December 22 2012 00:06 GMT
#207
Hopefully with Kim Carrier and Lee Seung Won on board Sonic will have an easier time getting sponsors.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 00:14:46
December 22 2012 00:13 GMT
#208


this sonic?
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 22 2012 00:14 GMT
#209
YESSSSSSSSSSS! And Kim Carrier and Lee Seung Won helping will be so fucking awesome.
The Bomber boy
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 00:25:26
December 22 2012 00:24 GMT
#210

And the people rejoiced.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
December 22 2012 00:27 GMT
#211
What great news to wake up to

Lee seung won and Kim carrier FTW!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
December 22 2012 00:38 GMT
#212
wow!!!
YES :D
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 00:39:15
December 22 2012 00:38 GMT
#213
On December 12 2012 11:25 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 09:36 ShiroKaisen wrote:
On December 12 2012 09:25 Anomarad wrote:
Is he not getting sponsors because of the match fixing? His last SSL was so successful I don't get why there wouldn't be any sponsors. :/

Maybe he'll change his mind after SSL8.


Sponsors fled from BW after He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named happened. And now, if it seems like to companies without a current stake in eSports that Brood War is nothing but a hive of match fixers - with a second scandal in three years - what incentive is there for them to sponsor it?

I find it hard to believe the entire professional scene lost sponsors over eleven match fixers. Wouldn't the stagnation of the metagame along with SC2's uncertain future in Korea and LoL's rise to prominence have spurred a sponsorship exodus?


It's only one variable and it had a ripple effect on the scene; you have to look at all the pieces and you will have plenty of people telling you the game was far from being stagnate.

I'm happy we're getting the old gang back together again.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
December 22 2012 00:39 GMT
#214
Yes! Glad to see it worked out in the end.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 00:41:52
December 22 2012 00:41 GMT
#215
On December 18 2012 21:16 Kal_rA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 12:20 StarStruck wrote:
On December 12 2012 12:20 Kal_rA wrote:
On December 12 2012 12:13 ArvickHero wrote:
dunno what ppl are saying about BW stagnating by the last real Proleague. If you mean like the top 4 players always dominating, yea I guess, but the game was still evolving and entertaining as hell.

Shirokaisen explains it pretty well (sponsors were hella concerned about image) couple posts above.

One of the main reasons why BW continued to evolve (even during the last pl) was cause of new kespa maps every season. Won't be getting any more of those so the meta game is bound to stagnate now (not to mention the end of properly televised proleague / OSL / MSL / teamhouses / insane practice hours from the best players on the planet)..


Who said Rose.of.Dream had to design them?

Wasn't one of the great map things about kespa / proleague: during off season all teams would test out the new maps and report back any imbas for fixing. It was a very detailed and strcutured process to get a good map into the map pool.

Sure we can have and will have other map makers, but lets not ignore the value that is no longer offered because of the death of (bw) proleague.

Also sucks about this matchfixing...


That was certainly a part of it but the gamers were only given the final versions very late. That's why you see some maps disappear from the map pool in mid swing because they simply cannot collect all the data in time.
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
December 22 2012 00:43 GMT
#216
well this is a delightful turn of fate
the last wcs commissioner
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 22 2012 00:44 GMT
#217
whohoo great news. Makes me really glad to see Sonic Continue. Sonic fighting!!!!
Broodwar for life!
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
December 22 2012 00:44 GMT
#218
On December 22 2012 08:07 Stratos wrote:
A LITTLE BIT OF A MAJOR UPDATE.

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 06:37 rotinegg wrote:
Just to elaborate, Lee Seung Won and Kim Carrier will be casting the entirety of the SSL, starting from the Ro32. This is awesome.


SEE OP AND REJOICE!!!!


REJOICING!
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
December 22 2012 00:51 GMT
#219
BEST HOLIDAY GIFT EVER
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
December 22 2012 00:55 GMT
#220
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