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"There is nothing stronger than the heart of a volunteer."
Now that YSL S1 has concluded it's time to start something new. But we can't do it without your help!
Here are the roles that need to be filled: -Tournament Organizer: Making the main threads, handling replays, & dealing with players. -Liquipedia Editor: Create the liquipedia page and keep it up to date. -Gfx/Banners: A creative person to organize the thread layouts and create the banners.
Compensation: A solid gold house.
PM me if you're a dedicated person that can fill one or more of these roles. And it won't be just for 1 tournament but as an on-going thing. It's not a ton of work but it does require some effort every week to keep things updated and keep the tournament running.
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There is more to organizing than that.
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On October 29 2012 10:14 Game wrote: There is more to organizing than that.
That's about as helpful as a screwdriver in a snowstorm.
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On October 29 2012 10:24 GenesisX wrote:That's about as helpful as a screwdriver in a snowstorm. It could fix the generator that is powering the headquarters is what you're saying? If so, thanks.
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Tournament Organizer as described = Referee.
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It really doesn't matter what he calls it. He just needs someone who will be making the main threads, handling replays, & dealing with players, so he slapped a name on it. Are you guys afraid that someone might gain entrance to the prestigious "Guild of Organizers" without proper qualifications?
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Wow, Eywa and game, do you guys do anything besides criticize and try to put others down that are trying to help the community, but aren't in your little inner circle? Jesus christ grow up, Sadly if you have nothing of importance or helpful to say, what is even the point of saying it? To try to instill your "Tournament Organizer" EGO on others who are only trying to help just the way you claim you do? Simply Unbelievable, you would think that 2 people who ORGANIZE TOURNAMENTS in BW foreign scene would be A LITTLE MORE HELP , to someone trying to ORGANIZE TOURNAMENTS IN BW FOREIGN SCENE.
L3gendary I will volunteer my help , either making the main threads, helping with players or with replays, I don't think I would be suitable for the other parts.
Eywa and Game you guys act like children, sadly you are the type of people that demand respect instead of trying to earn it, and if you do earn it , you try to flaunt anything you think you have. You both helped this cause 0%, and I am sure you don't care because you have your own tournaments, you don't even want other tournaments to do well, because that might hurt the viewership, credibility, or other various elements of your events.
I see right through you both. I will hit you up on skype l3gendary.
God bless~
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On October 29 2012 11:49 hacklebeast wrote: It really doesn't matter what he calls it. He just needs someone who will be making the main threads, handling replays, & dealing with players, so he slapped a name on it. Are you guys afraid that someone might gain entrance to the prestigious "Guild of Organizers" without proper qualifications? Last time I checked being proactive in regards to something seemingly important typically has better results than contemplation and teleological philosophy. As L3gendary has communication with both parties you're so sarcastically referring to, at least in my case, I didn't feel the need to spam this thread with necessary components of online BW organization. Given his position in sponsoring, and as far as I know partially organizing YSL, I'd like to think that being helpful to a person of his community stature would be a benefit to the entire community, especially with promises of further monetary injection. So unless that community as stated negates your involvement, I'd assume that retracting your douche-esque question would be better for us all.
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I'll be glad to take care of the Liquipedia page.
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On October 29 2012 11:49 hacklebeast wrote: It really doesn't matter what he calls it. He just needs someone who will be making the main threads, handling replays, & dealing with players, so he slapped a name on it. Are you guys afraid that someone might gain entrance to the prestigious "Guild of Organizers" without proper qualifications? I don't understand how this comment makes any sense whatsoever given that I've made it quite clear that I don't even want to be part of this group called organizers anymore.
Also, to be more clear, it's not about it being mislabeled it's about it missing an entire step to success which is a precursor to referee duties.
Edit: Given your knowledge of us, I have no idea why you also generalize Game and myself as the same party... (in this way, I'm not sure why I'm replying because you're almost certainly trolling).
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y'all used a heap of big words there for someone from the south.
I'm giving L3gendary the benefit of the doubt that anything not listed is because it is, in one way or another, already being taken care of. But if your motivation here is altruistic in an attempt to help him make a better event, then your first post doesn't make sense. Either you are talking to him outside of the thread and no post is necessary here; or you are not talking to him outside of the thread, in which case it would be helpful if you were spamming the thread with the necessary components.
Edit: ^^ that also applys to eywa (except the southerner part).
Edit 2 because apparently we are talking like this: I'm lumping you together because you said almost the same thing in your first post, and then again in response to me. No other reason.
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If there are no other ppl willing to volunteer, I can make/maintain threads if needed. But I'd rather someone else do that if they can ;p lol
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Only do i feel someone's crying here? ;(
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I know HP is good w/ banners but I believe he has huge law test upcoming, Trozz makes interesting artwork for gem league if want ban drawn graphics. If any other names come up ill let you know gl brosky
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Believe it or not but this is where everything starts. You have to start from somewhere and this guy is trying to do just that. Admire the passion to BW but the community is very bitter and dwindling due to the fallout/transition into sc2. You might want to start doing something even smaller. I used to organize tournaments in early SC2 days about two years ago and it is a lot of work. You will need at least 1 ref and a few admins to manage roughly 20-30 active players. Just have the admins look over replays and manage it. When the admins are not managing replays have them ref as well. Most you will ever need for something of that small of a scope is roughly 3-5 people. Maybe try to work with some amateur clans and get their management/players involved. It is a bunch of fun to play in but people don't understand all the details you need to do behind the scenes. Good luck to you with whatever might come out of this.
P.S. Try to make the rules as concise and defined as possible. Worst case is your rules are skewed and players abuse them.
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If I only had more time..
I would gladly help..
but unfortunately.. I cant..
But I hope that you are gonna find some people that are willing to help the BW community AND have the amount of free time necessary to do it !
go go go !
BW FOREVER !!!
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Oh god, how bad is it that when I first saw the title on the side bar I thought it was "Need volunteers for Orgy".....
On topic: I wish I could help but I'm pretty much useless at those things.. Good luck though!
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So, you would rather get someone you've never worked with rather than just work something out with me?
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On October 29 2012 15:06 ninazerg wrote:So, you would rather get someone you've never worked with rather than just work something out with me? 
Yea what happened with nina running the show?
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I' m available to fill this position:
-Tournament Organizer: Making the main threads, handling replays, & dealing with players.
For the other positions: for some reason beyond my comprehension Gecko(xp) banned himself, he was very good with Liquipedia. I have edited some things from time to time and its not that hard, really the more you edit the more you learn, so if help is needed in that area i can get into it.
For the making of banners, well here i cannot be so helpful. The only person i am aware of is fabiano, but there are others out there that make cool graphics.
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United Kingdom1688 Posts
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I'm not sure what I can do, but I can promise staying up really late and logging on everyday. If you need a helping hand, contact me
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On October 29 2012 15:46 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 15:06 ninazerg wrote:So, you would rather get someone you've never worked with rather than just work something out with me?  Yea what happened with nina running the show? 
L3gendary PM'd me after I posted here. There's no drama between him and myself, so that's all good (thank God). We both had some differences of opinion about the qualification process and the ro32 format. He would've liked to see an OSL-style elimination round with a winners' and losers' bracket, with each being a bo3. To break that down:
Hal9000 vs Weed420
LilWayne vs Qaza
That's 2 games so far.
Results: (spoiler alert!)
Hal9000 > Weed420
UncleRuckus < Qaza
so the winner will face the winner, the loser will face the loser
WINNERS BRACKET - Hal9000 vs Qaza
LOSERS BRACKET - Weed420 vs UncleRuckus
So now it's 4 games. The winner of the winners' bracket moves onto the ro16, the loser of the winners' bracket will face the winner of the losers' bracket. That would end up being 5 games total.
So, with 8 groups, there would be 40 games total. Not that bad.
Now, here's where we had the difference of opinion: L3gendary wanted every match (example: UncleRuckus vs Qaza) to be a best of three. 40 multiplied by three is 120, which is the potential number of games to referee, much more than a single-elimination ro32. And with a total of 16 matches in a ro32, the number of potential games is only 48, which is ultimately what I went with. I think L3gendary feels like with a larger tournament staff, he can allow the players to play more games, so any help you can provide to whatever comes next will certainly be important.
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ysl = NINA without her i will boycott this tourney. God save her!
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Wow didn't take long to turn into a shitstorm 
Foreign BroodWar I am dissapoint.
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On October 29 2012 15:06 ninazerg wrote:So, you would rather get someone you've never worked with rather than just work something out with me? 
Your recent comments sounded like you weren't interested in working in the next tourney. ^^;
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On October 29 2012 12:19 endy wrote: I'll be glad to take care of the Liquipedia page. I'll gladly cooperate.
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I can help with wiki also ^^
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On October 29 2012 15:06 ninazerg wrote:So, you would rather get someone you've never worked with rather than just work something out with me?  Did you guys have a falling out?
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On October 29 2012 17:58 ninazerg wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 29 2012 15:46 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 15:06 ninazerg wrote:So, you would rather get someone you've never worked with rather than just work something out with me?  Yea what happened with nina running the show?  L3gendary PM'd me after I posted here. There's no drama between him and myself, so that's all good (thank God). We both had some differences of opinion about the qualification process and the ro32 format. He would've liked to see an OSL-style elimination round with a winners' and losers' bracket, with each being a bo3. To break that down:  Hal9000 vs  Weed420  LilWayne vs  Qaza That's 2 games so far. Results: (spoiler alert!) Hal9000 >  Weed420  UncleRuckus < Qazaso the winner will face the winner, the loser will face the loser WINNERS BRACKET -  Hal9000 vs  Qaza LOSERS BRACKET -  Weed420 vs  UncleRuckus So now it's 4 games. The winner of the winners' bracket moves onto the ro16, the loser of the winners' bracket will face the winner of the losers' bracket. That would end up being 5 games total. So, with 8 groups, there would be 40 games total. Not that bad. Now, here's where we had the difference of opinion: L3gendary wanted every match (example:  UncleRuckus vs  Qaza) to be a best of three. 40 multiplied by three is 120, which is the potential number of games to referee, much more than a single-elimination ro32. And with a total of 16 matches in a ro32, the number of potential games is only 48, which is ultimately what I went with. I think L3gendary feels like with a larger tournament staff, he can allow the players to play more games, so any help you can provide to whatever comes next will certainly be important. I certainly understand the disagreement and getting a referee is difficult, I guess.
Out of curiosity what does the referee actually do? Obs the game, submit the replay?
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I can't really commit myself to make me available to create the graphics as this is my last semester in University and I've to focus on graduating and then getting a job.
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
I would like to help, but I am already completely stacked at the moment with school and work and badminton training. It's hard enough for me to even find time to play brood war...
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i could help with the organizing part or liquipedia edit. my skype is zaraki123456 contact me if needed
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lol.. I guess the liquipedia page is gonna be fucking amazing with all those volunteers..
shame that there will be no tournaments with noone volunteering for other stuff.. xD
: (((
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Croatia9504 Posts
Good luck L3gendary.
We need more people helping with this stuff in our community.
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is this foreal? Tournament organization is not that hard... look @ defiler.ru it practically runs itself. You just need a few people who can devote a few hours a week to make it run smoothly. Also, as soon as you have a smooth template going, you can make things much more simple/efficient/faster. Finally, you guys need to use the resources you are given, if Nina is offering to help you might as well take it.
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On October 29 2012 18:06 mca64[KDV] wrote: ysl = NINA without her i will boycott this tourney. God save her!
No dude, ysl = everyone who was a part of it. Please do not boycott the tournament.
On October 29 2012 20:13 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 15:06 ninazerg wrote:So, you would rather get someone you've never worked with rather than just work something out with me?  Did you guys have a falling out?
No, we didn't have a falling out. There's even a good possibility that we'll work together against in the future to defend the forces of good.
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Yea, I'll help with LP too. I might be able to hop in as a referee on some days, and anything else in general (help with replays and reviewing topic text/code), but I can't be the main guy/organizer as I don't have time and I have free time kinda irregularly so that's not good for an organizer.
On October 30 2012 04:06 dRaW wrote: is this foreal? Tournament organization is not that hard... look @ defiler.ru it practically runs itself. You just need a few people who can devote a few hours a week to make it run smoothly. Also, as soon as you have a smooth template going, you can make things much more simple/efficient/faster. Finally, you guys need to use the resources you are given, if Nina is offering to help you might as well take it.
It's not as easy as you think. Also, defiler tours are a one time thing, so it's easier even in that sense. It's not VERY hard though if you have time and a bit of experience.
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Add me on skype if you need any help with the tourney. Skype ID: Artunitgo
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On October 30 2012 04:50 quirinus wrote:Yea, I'll help with LP too. I might be able to hop in as a referee on some days, and anything else in general (help with replays and reviewing topic text/code), but I can't be the main guy/organizer as I don't have time and I have free time kinda irregularly so that's not good for an organizer. Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 04:06 dRaW wrote: is this foreal? Tournament organization is not that hard... look @ defiler.ru it practically runs itself. You just need a few people who can devote a few hours a week to make it run smoothly. Also, as soon as you have a smooth template going, you can make things much more simple/efficient/faster. Finally, you guys need to use the resources you are given, if Nina is offering to help you might as well take it. It's not as easy as you think.  Also, defiler tours are a one time thing, so it's easier even in that sense. It's not VERY hard though if you have time and a bit of experience. ^----------- He is one of the best for LP IMO helped a ton for the PCTF Season 1 and I believe filled in some ro32 for the YSL
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I would volunteer if i wasn't so bogged down with everything :<
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On October 29 2012 10:24 GenesisX wrote:That's about as helpful as a screwdriver in a snowstorm.
You take apart the snowstorm with the screwdriver. You have now a screwdriver, snow and a storm. you take apart the screwdriver and you get drive, screw, snow and storm. You screw the snow and drive the storm.
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On October 30 2012 19:36 iloveav wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 10:24 GenesisX wrote:On October 29 2012 10:14 Game wrote: There is more to organizing than that. That's about as helpful as a screwdriver in a snowstorm. You take apart the snowstorm with the screwdriver. You have now a screwdriver, snow and a storm. you take apart the screwdriver and you get drive, screw, snow and storm. You screw the snow and drive the storm. LIKE A BOSS YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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On October 29 2012 10:04 L3gendary wrote: Now that YSL S1 has concluded it's time to start something new.
Does this mean the next installment of the YSL? Like YSL S2?
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i can be volunteer - smurf detective
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On October 31 2012 03:12 Pucca wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 10:04 L3gendary wrote: Now that YSL S1 has concluded it's time to start something new. Does this mean the next installment of the YSL? Like YSL S2? well..
isnt this obvious or smthn ? ;P
when I think this trough..
I can maybe volunteer as a Tournament organizer ?
never done this but I can try..
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Depending on what's involved, I could probably help. shoot me a PM if you have use for me.
My only credentials are the Torenhire Starleague though :p
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On October 31 2012 03:31 mca64[KDV] wrote: i can be volunteer - smurf detective
yea, because that seemed to work so well last season LOL
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Everyone is Scan . i'll take my check whenever you're ready.
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I am not really qualified to help in those three. If you need any extra hands for anything else. Pm me. ^^ I'm on very often
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On November 02 2012 01:29 LML wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 03:31 mca64[KDV] wrote: i can be volunteer - smurf detective yea, because that seemed to work so well last season LOL
He helped keep three B ranked smurfs out of the YSL last season.
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Why the fuck did I read the title on the side bar as "Need Volunteers for Orgasms"
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United Kingdom1688 Posts
On November 02 2012 05:04 padfoota wrote: Why the fuck did I read the title on the side bar as "Need Volunteers for Orgasms" Good to know you still checked in
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United States1719 Posts
I don't really have the time or skill to commit myself to any of the positions you mentioned, but I am willing to help with small logistical stuff. PM me if you need someone for that, and I really appreciate you guys organizing this.
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if you still need a graphic man, i'll volunteer
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On November 02 2012 05:04 padfoota wrote: Why the fuck did I read the title on the side bar as "Need Volunteers for Orgasms"
The tongue ever turns to the aching tooth
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Thanks to everyone that offered to help! We got the staff we need now (and then some). Will be announcing something next week or the week after.
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cant wait !!!
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