This website was created because there were fans out there who loved BW and deserved a better place to find their news. We started off by giving WaxAngel and mensrea the chance to write about the happenings in Korea, and over the next eight years, Team Liquid became the center for people who loved Brood War. Unfortunately, our coverage of the Korean professional scene came to an end a few months ago with the end of the last Proleague that featured BW. It was truly the end of an era for a lot of us.
However, it doesn't mean that our coverage of Brood War will stop. While there are no more professional tournaments at the time, the Brood War community is still strong, sticking with the game they always loved. There are plenty of people working to keep the competitive scene for Brood war going, and If you know where to look, you will find that there are still a lot of tournaments being hosted.
TL has been the main source for everything Brood War for years, and we wish to keep it that way in the future. Even though the Korean industry has moved on from Brood War, we hope that it will still be possible for a Brood War fan to come to TL five years later, and find something he likes.
We have a very clear goal for our frontpage, which is to cover the professional scenes of the games we love. The end of Brood War in the Proleague and OSL meant there was no more content for the front page, but that hasn't stopped our Brood War staff from working hard to make regular content regarding the foreign and amateur scenes. Together, we've decided on a way for Brood War to stay on as an important part of the site.
It will now be possible to visit TL and view BW news on the frontpage again. For those of you interested in reading about BW on the frontpage, you can go to the toolbox and turn on BW news option. Additionally, going to http://www.teamliquid.net/bw will have the same effect. In doing so we believe we can keep our front page focused on professional games, while also allowing Brood War fans easy access to the news they want.
To give you a taste of the content you'll be able to enjoy, check out the Amateur Brood War Coverage and recaps of the popular ThSL and SSL tournaments.
With this change we are also appointing 2Pacalypse as our head editor to take care of the BW content. He has been an excellent part of our Brood War staff for a long time, and we believe he is the ideal man for the job.
You Can't Stop the Signal
By: Riptide
Take my love, take my land Take me where I cannot stand I don't care, I'm still free You can't take the sky from me
Let's face it, the Broodwar News team is no longer an equipped battlestar tearing across the universe in pursuit of foes. Those days are gone.
We went up against The Alliance the universe and lost, and now we're recouping, looking to put the pieces together. At best, we are now a ragtag group of adventurers who float along, looking for hope, looking for dreams, looking for games.
We find them sometimes on Fish and ICCUP, and more importantly, on Afreeca and Twitch, where we come together to watch everything from the SSL to the ThSL.
A while back, we newsed the final Professional Broodwar post, and in doing so, said goodbye to 10 years of Starcraft: Brood War progaming coverage here on Team Liquid. It was a sad day, and as we clicked through TL's admin interface and moved that post to news, we knew that things would never be the same again.
But even in these dark times, from the far reaches of Afreeca, there came, a signal.
Sonic.
It's right out of a fairytale, this one. Sonic, the Afreeca Broadcast Jockey who casts games out of the basement of his shoe shop, working after hours to deliver an amateur starleague for fans of the beautiful game. No massive sponsors, no studios, no screaming fans - just the familiar blip, blip, blip, and swoosh that sends us into games, games with Killer and Hiya, not Bisu and Jaedong, and yet games, games of Starcraft: Brood War being played by the best.
Though we can sit here and reminisce, and though we are a certainly a community that is known for its nostalgia, here, with our game under threat, we have chosen to look forward. We will remember Starcraft Progaming, because it defined this site and this community for over a decade, and yet here, even as pundits predicted its demise, we have seen a new scene emerge, a scene that is not professional in the true sense of the word, and yet in that respect, a scene that more closely resembles progaming at its birth, in the early 2000s, when Proleague was a distant dream and people played not because they had to, but because they were born to.
We have come full circle, friends, and we're back to Broodwar in its purest form. In the coming months and weeks, Team Liquid will be here to deliver the best of the Korean and International amateur leagues, and in doing so, celebrate the continued existence of a competitive scene for this game that we have come to know and love.
To that end we're also proud to unveil TL's newly constructed Brood War news portal. As our hastily constructed temporary BW news page once did, it will filter BW, the whole BW, and nothing but BW.
And if that wasn't enough, you can include this Brood War content on your front page by adjusting your front page settings here.
Well, there you have it. We've put our money where our mouth is, and brought you your game, the way you want it. The infrastructure is in place, and we've also got the manpower to provide you with the same great content you've been enjoying for years. Whether it's SOSPA or Gambit, ThSL or a great new foreign tourney run by Team Liquid itself, we're just letting you know that we will continue to cover the beautiful game the same way we've been doing it for the past decade.
On October 28 2012 06:40 DanabluDelicious wrote: no bw news on main page pls :D
Uncalled for.
That said; this is really great news for the BW fans. Good idea!
How is that uncalled for? It is a game with no following besides 50 people that can't get enough nostalgia. I understand that TL wouldn't be here without BW. But times change, man. Sorry.
On October 28 2012 06:40 DanabluDelicious wrote: no bw news on main page pls :D
Uncalled for.
That said; this is really great news for the BW fans. Good idea!
How is that uncalled for? It is a game with no following besides 50 people that can't get enough nostalgia. I understand that TL wouldn't be here without BW. But times change, man. Sorry.
User was warned for this post
Ooooh, let's all go and sign up to your twitter!
I'm joking, of course.
But seriously, this is a really thoughtful move from the TL staff. It will be appreciated.
also, if you don't want to see the BW news just disable it in your options.
I think it's even auto opt-out (I had to enable it just now) so it's literally moronic to complain about it
Indeed, it's off by default. We understand that we can't put the amateur BW scene on the same level as professional SC2/Dota2 leagues. So this is just a convenient way for people interested in anything BW to follow it. And I don't know why I'm repeating the things that have already been said. Seriously, everyone should read the news first before replying to it -.-
also, if you don't want to see the BW news just disable it in your options.
I think it's even auto opt-out (I had to enable it just now) so it's literally moronic to complain about it
Indeed, it's off by default. We understand that we can't put the amateur BW scene on the same level as professional SC2/Dota2 leagues. So this is just a convenient way for people interested in anything BW to follow it. And I don't know why I'm repeating the things that have already been said. Seriously, everyone should read the news first before replying to it -.-
probably worse than the time dota2 was announced and people didnt read that you could turn it off
also, if you don't want to see the BW news just disable it in your options.
I think it's even auto opt-out (I had to enable it just now) so it's literally moronic to complain about it
Indeed, it's off by default. We understand that we can't put the amateur BW scene on the same level as professional SC2/Dota2 leagues. So this is just a convenient way for people interested in anything BW to follow it. And I don't know why I'm repeating the things that have already been said. Seriously, everyone should read the news first before replying to it -.-
sorry, i wouldn't have said anything but it wasn't totally clear to me from the OP and it seems like a few idiots just figured "this seems like a good thread for some BW-bashing" without reading it anyway
I've really enjoyed watching the amateur scene for the past month or so after getting back into it once my DT nightmares had stopped. Thanks for this TL
On October 28 2012 06:40 DanabluDelicious wrote: no bw news on main page pls :D
Uncalled for.
That said; this is really great news for the BW fans. Good idea!
How is that uncalled for? It is a game with no following besides 50 people that can't get enough nostalgia. I understand that TL wouldn't be here without BW. But times change, man. Sorry.
It shouldn't be "It's time to put Brood War back on your frontpage" because it should have already been in there and how do you plan on bringing new eyes if it isn't put on by default like that other crap you guys put on default for us?
That's a serious question.
Blackrobe they never really left us to begin with. All this does is add a button for those who would like to receive news on our front page when most of us know where to look anyway.
It's like lip service when it should be by default.
On October 28 2012 09:14 StarStruck wrote: It shouldn't be "It's time to put Brood War back on your frontpage" because it should have already been in there and how do you plan on bringing new eyes if it isn't put on by default like that other crap you guys put on default for us?
That's a serious question.
Blackrobe they never really left us to begin with. All this does is add a button for those who would like to receive news on our front page when most of us know where to look anyway.
It's like lip service when it should be by default.
I understand you.
But TL is a Pro coverage site, and sadly for us, actual bw tournaments are amateur and online. Maybe in the future...
On October 28 2012 09:14 StarStruck wrote: It shouldn't be "It's time to put Brood War back on your frontpage" because it should have already been in there and how do you plan on bringing new eyes if it isn't put on by default like that other crap you guys put on default for us?
That's a serious question.
Blackrobe they never really left us to begin with. All this does is add a button for those who would like to receive news on our front page when most of us know where to look anyway.
It's like lip service when it should be by default.
I understand you.
But TL is a Pro coverage site, and sadly for us, actual bw tournaments are amateur and online. Maybe in the future...
So, you must understand TL staff desicion.
lol at the Pro.
You know the very foundation of this website was never based on that right? I mean all these amateur tournaments you see now are very similar to what we did back then only we have more tech to put into it and things like wgtour don't exist anymore.
On October 28 2012 09:14 StarStruck wrote: It shouldn't be "It's time to put Brood War back on your frontpage" because it should have already been in there and how do you plan on bringing new eyes if it isn't put on by default like that other crap you guys put on default for us?
That's a serious question.
Blackrobe they never really left us to begin with. All this does is add a button for those who would like to receive news on our front page when most of us know where to look anyway.
It's like lip service when it should be by default.
I understand you.
But TL is a Pro coverage site, and sadly for us, actual bw tournaments are amateur and online. Maybe in the future...
So, you must understand TL staff desicion.
lol at the Pro.
You know the very foundation of this website was never based on that right? I mean all these amateur tournaments you see now are very similar to what we did back then only we have more tech to put into it and things like wgtour don't exist anymore.
It was actually just pro coverage first though, right? Like, before liquibition or whatever it was called.
anyway, TL is very different from what it was in 2002 so that's not really terribly relevant.
On October 28 2012 09:14 StarStruck wrote: It shouldn't be "It's time to put Brood War back on your frontpage" because it should have already been in there and how do you plan on bringing new eyes if it isn't put on by default like that other crap you guys put on default for us?
On October 28 2012 09:14 StarStruck wrote: It shouldn't be "It's time to put Brood War back on your frontpage" because it should have already been in there and how do you plan on bringing new eyes if it isn't put on by default like that other crap you guys put on default for us?
DOTA is on default? I thought it was only SC2.
It most certainly is.
ranjutan,
This isn't just about 2002. Look at how long it took to do a TSL. That's not even a pro tournament either, although it was very well done.
User was temp banned for having a terrible posting history and trolling.
On October 28 2012 09:14 StarStruck wrote: It shouldn't be "It's time to put Brood War back on your frontpage" because it should have already been in there and how do you plan on bringing new eyes if it isn't put on by default like that other crap you guys put on default for us?
That's a serious question.
Blackrobe they never really left us to begin with. All this does is add a button for those who would like to receive news on our front page when most of us know where to look anyway.
It's like lip service when it should be by default.
I understand you.
But TL is a Pro coverage site, and sadly for us, actual bw tournaments are amateur and online. Maybe in the future...
So, you must understand TL staff desicion.
Sonic Proleague Team players get a salary so they are pro. Also the starleague is an offline tournament.
Well, as soon as SC2 dies (teams disbanding, KESPA teams losing sponsors, etc), we might see a return to BW.. or at least an apology that we shouldn't have ever left.
OSL staff must have been hit hard by reality last night when they saw the audience.. what a disaster.
End of broodwar was sad for me. I lurked on TL for so long, reading the final edit's over and over, salivating at this amazing game. Thank you for this, very very happy.
Thank you. Thank you for not abandoning my heart-friend, BW. After all the time, effort, passion and love I'd invested into this game and community, it was so terrible for it to be seemingly forgotten, like a last-gasp in the night. Thank you so much for assuring us that you know we're still there, and we still care. Thank you for caring too.
like this a lot, since sc2 became a bit boring to watch lately (pvz yawn), I found myself following a lot more BW recently. It's just neat to watch a game that actually has an early-/ and midgame
someone out there needs to give ArvickHero a fucking medal or something. Without him I don't think the sospa coverage really would have taken off the way it has.
Really good to see again and again that Teamliquid is first of all about passion and a bunch of dedicated people and not just about hype and visibility on more rewarding games.
So I have a couple of questions. Only korean bw was in news page ? If no, when was the last foreign bw news here ?
And it's funny how people say that sc2 is pro and bw amateur. Cause blizzards shits on bw and try to promote sc2 with all theses expansions since pretty long time doesn't mean that bw players/casters put lower effort in playing and support scene then sc2 people.
Please oh please have BW content be on by default. It is important to have people exposed to the game, at least a little, to keep fresh blood occasionally flowing in.
BW news ticked, thanks! I follow SC2 and Dota 2 too, but I have the BW sections highest in the left panel, below comes SC2, below comes Dota 2.
It's really the right decision to keep the BW news on the front page, because the scene is always in motion, and you never know just how much professional it would evolve to be, and to what level will the prizes go. BW is very alive as it is.
On October 30 2012 05:27 Stratos wrote: No, we can always hide in the LAN. We might shut down blizzard tho.
is blizzard able to like shut down things like fish O_O do they have some kind of intellectual property rights to do that? SSL is growing so much and I'd be so sad if all of a sudden Blizzard steps in and shuts down brood war..
On October 30 2012 05:27 Stratos wrote: No, we can always hide in the LAN. We might shut down blizzard tho.
is blizzard able to like shut down things like fish O_O do they have some kind of intellectual property rights to do that? SSL is growing so much and I'd be so sad if all of a sudden Blizzard steps in and shuts down brood war..
Yes. It would take a lot though. More importantly, as when Brain got owned by the Chinese, another server will just pop up. There is no stopping the signal. Did you not understand what the OP meant?!
On October 30 2012 05:27 Stratos wrote: No, we can always hide in the LAN. We might shut down blizzard tho.
is blizzard able to like shut down things like fish O_O do they have some kind of intellectual property rights to do that? SSL is growing so much and I'd be so sad if all of a sudden Blizzard steps in and shuts down brood war..
Yes. It would take a lot though. More importantly, as when Brain got owned by the Chinese, another server will just pop up. There is no stopping the signal. Did you not understand what the OP meant?!
sorry i was just asking these things cus someone else said sonic could get shut down by blizzard
There have been some awesome Chinese events involving Chinese ex pros like jaystar and fengzi, and some good Korean players on fish like yoona (1700+ fish) and minus)zelot. Well worth a watch IMO even though the commentary is in Chinese. I'll post the link some other time when I am on my pc.
Great job Nazgul, mensrea, 2Pacalypse and everyone else involved! Good to see TL not turning its back on BW. The dedication of people who make sure that somewhere there is a hub for BW news and updates is very much appreciated!
On October 31 2012 01:18 Cambium wrote: There have been some awesome Chinese events involving Chinese ex pros like jaystar and fengzi, and some good Korean players on fish like yoona (1700+ fish) and minus)zelot. Well worth a watch IMO even though the commentary is in Chinese. I'll post the link some other time when I am on my pc.
tbh it's pretty sad that when SoSPA appeared all the Chinese stuff kinda died
On October 31 2012 01:18 Cambium wrote: There have been some awesome Chinese events involving Chinese ex pros like jaystar and fengzi, and some good Korean players on fish like yoona (1700+ fish) and minus)zelot. Well worth a watch IMO even though the commentary is in Chinese. I'll post the link some other time when I am on my pc.
tbh it's pretty sad that when SoSPA appeared all the Chinese stuff kinda died
Well that is for us. I am pretty sure those tournaments are still going on. It is just that we arent paying enough attention anymore.
On October 31 2012 01:18 Cambium wrote: There have been some awesome Chinese events involving Chinese ex pros like jaystar and fengzi, and some good Korean players on fish like yoona (1700+ fish) and minus)zelot. Well worth a watch IMO even though the commentary is in Chinese. I'll post the link some other time when I am on my pc.
yoona?
I played a Protoss user named gla.yoona on iCCup. Do you have a replay of his? If so, send it to me so I can compare hotkeys and find out if it was the same one!