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Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
May 07 2003 02:57 GMT
#181
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MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
n8f8
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom222 Posts
May 07 2003 03:39 GMT
#182
Hmm indeed Beast. I run superview for the first time before and i averaged in at 60 :o So i thought i must be missing stuff, and when i focussed more on my APM, and perhaps what i am missing. I got it up to about 90 and i have noticed that my game has improved quite a lot. (especially my micro) So i think APM is a good sign of skill, as long as long as there is no useless clicks.
the only thing we can do is smile :)
bbel
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland49 Posts
May 07 2003 08:51 GMT
#183
check replay:
Blackman vs. Ever)P(Wind
click/min.
http://netwars.pl/download.php?numer=15999


1.09 ver.
Honk2000
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany698 Posts
May 07 2003 09:38 GMT
#184
who is everpwind?
nice 382
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
May 07 2003 09:45 GMT
#185
I think i was right just checked my apm worst being 60 BUT the last game I played I got 84 and my enemy 140 and yes i won ;-D
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
May 07 2003 10:02 GMT
#186
Dudley did chated on WDT and here is the proof...

Dudley vs liquid.ninja WDT ladder = 132
Dudley vs VeG[Pg]= 264

132 to 264... impossible -_-

here are the reps

WDT ladder
http://bbs37.adwars.com/data/rate/files/20030428153530/WDT-Banna.milk3.rep

WDT Tournament
http://bbs37.adwars.com/data/rate/files/20030428155055/843banana.milk._vs_VeG.rep
Im back, in pog form!
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
May 07 2003 10:11 GMT
#187
hmm, u shouldve read the whole post.
i have Marine's reps where he is like 150, and on the others his 250 and iloveoo says his actual click is about 300
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33551 Posts
May 07 2003 10:12 GMT
#188
On May 07 2003 06:29 BeJJeLove wrote:
Does APM = Mouse Speed ?
Please shut up everyone
Im too lazy to write a memorandum like Ilnp, so i'll say this. How many times you click a mouse and click a hotkey on the keyboard does not show how fast or how slow someone is with a mouse. You can't even compare the two.


In cas's defense

Cas was using the term 'apm' to mean 'speed'. He wasn't implying the number that bwchart gives you, he just mean relative speed.

Cas > You ;p
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
May 07 2003 10:24 GMT
#189
On May 07 2003 19:02 baal wrote:
Dudley did chated on WDT and here is the proof...

Dudley vs liquid.ninja WDT ladder = 132
Dudley vs VeG[Pg]= 264

132 to 264... impossible -_-


his name is dudey and yes, that is a proof. even in a complete fungame players dont get slower than maybe 50 apm compared to their average.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
May 07 2003 10:43 GMT
#190
Ofcourse it proves it, pro gamers go up and down that much cuz some games are exhibitions, see WCG games and they tend to be lower, cuz are important games, and on exibitions they try to look more fast.

but 132 to 264 is just impossible, and it was not a casuality, check all his WDT ladder games, he never never goes far from 132

dudey you sux ~ ^_^
Im back, in pog form!
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
May 07 2003 11:12 GMT
#191
but it also depends on the game, on a slow game I click a lot less..
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Strafe[iR]
Profile Joined March 2003
Netherlands266 Posts
May 07 2003 11:53 GMT
#192
well i tried it myself
i can be quite fast becuz in one game i tried to get as much actions as possible I got over 250, when i try to win i have like 110-130;/
but i assume dudey played normal in his wdt laddergames and his best in wdt finals and then you really cant explain going from 130 to 260+
even when you play alot less serious you dont speed up twice when you do play serious
Help me with my army. http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=wv63w278 . Thk you
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 07 2003 11:54 GMT
#193
On May 07 2003 20:53 Strafe[iR] wrote:
well i tried it myself
i can be quite fast becuz in one game i tried to get as much actions as possible I got over 250, when i try to win i have like 110-130;/
but <b>i assume</b> dudey played normal in his wdt laddergames and his best in wdt finals and then you really cant explain going from 130 to 260+
even when you play alot less serious you dont speed up twice when you do play serious


Hush.
why so 진지해?
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
May 07 2003 11:56 GMT
#194
dudey went 130 to 260? most of his games were 300 which is even more impossible. hed have to go from 2 actions a second to 5. not even realistic. unless he can honestly say he hasnt tried since he got bw which is ignorant to believe.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
May 07 2003 12:15 GMT
#195
guess no screenshots will deny this LOL... caught ^_~
Im back, in pog form!
WickedDreams
Profile Joined October 2002
Portugal873 Posts
May 07 2003 12:30 GMT
#196
See Nada 1st PErson Vods where it shows the keyboard 300+ is TipeWriting the whole fucking game. pretty insane
Getting away with all messed up !
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
May 07 2003 12:43 GMT
#197
Hey, i analyzed 5 games of chojja, he averaged in the mid 330's and had a high of 355, i'd say thats insane. I get about 130 avg. my friend In_Mutal averages 180, yet he looks like he has 400 .
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
S(O)ME(O)NE
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada473 Posts
May 07 2003 13:43 GMT
#198
i think the reason koreans have more apm is because of the way they play bw, if boxer was at 100 apm then so would everyone else be too.
Strafe[iR]
Profile Joined March 2003
Netherlands266 Posts
May 07 2003 13:45 GMT
#199
yes so how can one go from 130 to 300+?
Help me with my army. http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=wv63w278 . Thk you
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 07 2003 14:08 GMT
#200
apm != mousespeed you apes.
apm = activity.
ACTIONS PER MINUTE.
JAM THE FUCKER!
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