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Emlary
China3334 Posts
download both Super View & BWChart run superview first in file choose the kind "StarCraft Replay *.rep" and then open a rep in this software then run BWChart select the "Act/min" click "Load replay" a few seconds,u can see some datas in the right corner last one Act/min it contains both ur mouce-move and keyboard-move i chose one of last year KPGA final,yellow vs boxer yellow 234 boxer 266 so...ahahaha hf | ||
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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Talith
United States1102 Posts
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Emlary
China3334 Posts
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Emlary
China3334 Posts
On May 04 2003 08:37 Talith wrote: hmmm i was wondering if this program works w/ windows 98, cause i heard it didnt, and Im gettin some trouble with it, not showing data. me 2K | ||
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amat
United States1788 Posts
http://mapage.noos.fr/spyderman/bwchart.htm Only the recent versions work with win 98. Nice work JCA  And Shockey, you need to scroll right to find the actions/min, you are looking at total actions for the game, i presume.  | ||
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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amat
United States1788 Posts
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Cheez_Dip{PAK}
150 Posts
 im getting between 90-100 in my reps | ||
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
just look at nazgul | ||
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amat
United States1788 Posts
On May 04 2003 09:19 Shockey wrote: errr why didnt anyone say that doing this adds files to your comp T_T. every rep ive analyzed goes to C: and is like 1.2 mb -.-v I've been forgetting about that - I had 73mb of expanded reps in c: Also, if you have a rare rep (one that you can't dl agian), make a copy before viewing it with superview - they can be corrupted, though rare. | ||
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
Haham U hyst scabbed a recent H.O.T-Forever vs [ReD]Nada replay. Nada got 318! H.O.T only 171 | ||
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koomann
United States97 Posts
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FeeLdAfuRy
Australia290 Posts
In his game VS Boxer he was around 15 clicks faster than boxer. | ||
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Honk2000
Germany698 Posts
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deTwisj
Netherlands288 Posts
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brandon
Turkmenistan103 Posts
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esk0
Sweden1393 Posts
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Zaks
Bulgaria73 Posts
-Zaks p.s. mine act/min are between 120/150 | ||
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LaptopLegacy
Netherlands602 Posts
So clickspeed doesn't say much about how good a player is indeed... | ||
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Honk2000
Germany698 Posts
HOT 180 | ||
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CeltiC.MoOn
Germany160 Posts
is only mouseinput recorded or keyboard input, too? | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
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PuReTosS
Australia19 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On May 04 2003 14:31 CeltiC.MoOn wrote: hm i noticed zerg players having less clicks/minute. terrans usually have about 240, while zerg have only about 170... is only mouseinput recorded or keyboard input, too? keyboard input too ^^ cauz i got 1038 act/min by using hotkey only ^^ | ||
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fender-pro
Estonia208 Posts
BTW, what all these numbers in "parameters" mean, and does this "action" show every single move i did during a game? | ||
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PuReTosS
Australia19 Posts
someone Plz Wheres the love!! | ||
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fender-pro
Estonia208 Posts
On May 04 2003 16:25 PuReTosS wrote: yo where do I get it from??? someone Plz Wheres the love!! What are you looking for, dude? The direction to the programm is on the first page of this topic | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
I get 115-130 actions per minute. And the person who said that people with 150 act./min can easily beat those with 300+, you're exaggerating. The only people I've seen get 300+ so far are korean progamers who can't be easily beaten. | ||
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MaMMuT
Sweden19 Posts
btw Ilnp is about around 300 all games I've checked-_-V pretty good | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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Psier
Germany8 Posts
he was just about 150 in all the other replays I watched from the wdt qualification games ): what conclusion can we draw from this ? | ||
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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DReaMe
United States337 Posts
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fender-pro
Estonia208 Posts
PS: in 1 my short game i had 2 rines and smth like 3 tanks... but this programm said i had 6 rines and 6 tanks (????) | ||
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Pumpkin[s.R]
United States317 Posts
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TanGo
Sweden1019 Posts
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Pumpkin[s.R]
United States317 Posts
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ReTrooper
Germany526 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On May 04 2003 18:47 ReTrooper wrote: Can sb check Chojja or Arang? We have already said his actions twice or 3 times in the same topic... Why don't you read the all entire post ? Sometimes it's boring but it can also be interesting... | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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MaMMuT
Sweden19 Posts
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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fender-pro
Estonia208 Posts
Well, ppl could u just reply to me? eh..  | ||
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ilnp
Iceland1330 Posts
you can't gauge speed accurately with anything other than your eyes. some people give tremendous amounts of redundant commands=[ | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
On May 04 2003 20:01 fender-pro wrote: Does somebody knows what exactly all these numbers in "parameters" mean, and does this "action" show every single move i did during a game? Well, ppl could u just reply to me? eh.. haha i just played you today when i was testing that program (i'm ilovethe_ArtOf) and as far as i remember u had like 80acts/min while i had 180 =p ^^ | ||
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KiZz
Netherlands194 Posts
i had 3200 actions he had 6100 :O~ | ||
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
On May 04 2003 20:14 ilnp wrote: please remember guys that actions has a lot less to do with speed than you think. you can't gauge speed accurately with anything other than your eyes. some people give tremendous amounts of redundant commands=[ then how do you go from having 100/200ish commands habit to 300ish commands? (been playing A LOT? someone else play for you? using macros?) | ||
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
I found it interesting when i was having a look seeing how pros do things differently to normal players, If u load up gundam or nada or someones reps you will see their hotkey use is higher then the others as well. U will notice almost all foreigners that i've seen have lower hotkey use compared to other command use. (BTW "hotkey" term refers to the 1 section in the commands/min breakdown section in the bwchart thingy and NOT all commands given) Hotkey counts as hotkey probeA to 1 and probeB to 2. now constantly press 121212121212121212121212 and it goes up heaps, i tested it and got 650 commands a minute, but 600 were for hotkeys In the tourney game i did tonight i got 181 for 20 min game. But i didn't have proper mouse settings compared to normal. But then again i've always been slow. | ||
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Roman
United States2595 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
PS: in 1 my short game i had 2 rines and smth like 3 tanks... but this programm said i had 6 rines and 6 tanks (????) Evidently jca didn't listen to what I said -_-;; . The reps store all build commands, even those that don't do anything, e.g. if you press "p" 5 times really quickly to build your 5th probe, the replay will record all 5 "build probe" actions. I guess jca's program is counting all of the build actions, which is why it gives false values for unit counts (and consequently, things like money spent would also be incorrect). | ||
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Roman
United States2595 Posts
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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ilnp
Iceland1330 Posts
On May 04 2003 21:04 Artenus wrote: just a speculation... no one played for ilnp but he used macros (press 1 button and it will excute multi commands) during the final games. (btw are macros allowed in wdt?) i don't think macros should be allowed (key rebinding yes, but nothing that does more than 1 command = 1 command), and no i didn't use them. there's a reason i'm faster in WDT compared to team usa and it's more than just practice/trying, although that's part of it... but i'm not going to get into it ^_^ | ||
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fender-pro
Estonia208 Posts
On May 04 2003 20:21 Asta wrote: haha i just played you today when i was testing that program (i'm ilovethe_ArtOf) and as far as i remember u had like 80acts/min while i had 180 =p ^^ Ye, i remember.. my click ability is still very slow  and when i saw this replay i was quite surprised, that u, at this short time, had 5 working hatcheries. But if u play with someone don't dropp pls after first 5 mins, even if u came just to check this progg out - u waste my time and it isn't manner, dude. | ||
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BleeK
Canada1 Post
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ReTrooper
Germany526 Posts
On May 04 2003 19:08 RaiZ wrote: We have already said his actions twice or 3 times in the same topic... Why don't you read the all entire post ? Sometimes it's boring but it can also be interesting... Plz read the whole thread again and realize that you're talking trash! | ||
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Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
* = not competition game Eji 260-273 Reach 263-272 Foru 272 Intotherain 195-201 Intotherainbow 186 *GGon 180 GGon 181-207 Breeze 160-180 Giyom/Grrr 164 *Autumn 163 *Garimto 154 *Naz 119-130 okay this is taking ages lucky tommorrow/today is public holiday btw anyone else have the bug in 98 where u have to alt ctrl delete superveiw and or bwchart out of applications before u can reload a new one ? PS someone do zergers and terrans | ||
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
On May 04 2003 19:49 MaMMuT wrote: Why the hell would jinnam help him? Do they even know each other?InToTheWannaB u havent noticed that jinnam is zergplayer and he is in dreamteam? | ||
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Frits
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Honk2000
Germany698 Posts
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Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
his game NTT (242) vs AranG (302 holy shit ) | ||
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ReTrooper
Germany526 Posts
That is as much as I have... Hmm Fisheye and Mondragon both < 130.  | ||
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ImaGe
Netherlands233 Posts
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Sadist
United States7263 Posts
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ForAuir
83 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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B.GoD_AnGRY
Chile334 Posts
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proefkonijntje
Netherlands92 Posts
breeze[akuta] vs boxer. its 120 vs 200 funny thing is breeze wins the game so much for actions per minute. note: game is pvt on hall of valhalla | ||
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iNFeRnO
Canada254 Posts
On May 04 2003 22:18 Legionnaire wrote: btw anyone else have the bug in 98 where u have to alt ctrl delete superveiw and or bwchart out of applications before u can reload a new one ? ya happens to me once in a while too | ||
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ForAuir
83 Posts
Speed is not everything, everyone knows that, however it does help. | ||
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nEph^Destroyer
Czech Republic105 Posts
average battlenet games pvz about 130 pvt about 180 pvp about 150 lan games pvz about 180 pvt about 220 and hadnt found any pvp ;o( btw see satanik or asmodey +-110 ownage ^^ | ||
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RaGe_banned
United States538 Posts
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RaGe_banned
United States538 Posts
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iD.Twisted
Netherlands3102 Posts
Naz clicks very precise (watched that at several lan tourneys), as for other people, they click 5 times around the target, and after that they click on it I have an average of 150 actions/minute. | ||
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RaGe_banned
United States538 Posts
Dreame's act/min ==> 144 So called SlayerS_`BoxeR` Act/min ==> 131 This was on LT, not an air map, I'm sure this is good proof of that slayers boxer in that replay was 100% not real. | ||
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RaGe_banned
United States538 Posts
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
Fastest i found from my own games was 281 (eSu.Dealer vs Atmosphere[CF]). From what i've seen NaDa and BlackMaN are the most consistent fast ones, Nada is very RARELY below 250 and some games he's 350+. | ||
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EndingLife
United States1595 Posts
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
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iloveoo
634 Posts
On May 05 2003 03:33 RaGe wrote: Dreame's much talked about ZvT vs SlayerS_`BoxeR`, was a lot of controversy about that one back in the day, and well Dreame's act/min ==> 144 So called SlayerS_`BoxeR` Act/min ==> 131 This was on LT, not an air map, I'm sure this is good proof of that slayers boxer in that replay was 100% not real. that doesn't mean it's not the real Boxer , maybe he wasn't trying very hard . Im pretty sure the game was real , some gosu m-m micro by Boxer | ||
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jca
France273 Posts
On May 04 2003 20:59 Bill307 wrote: Evidently jca didn't listen to what I said -_-;; . The reps store all build commands, even those that don't do anything, e.g. if you press "p" 5 times really quickly to build your 5th probe, the replay will record all 5 "build probe" actions. I guess jca's program is counting all of the build actions, which is why it gives false values for unit counts (and consequently, things like money spent would also be incorrect). The latest versions of BWChart try to detect those situations, as much as they can be detected. I already answered that subject in one of the other thread (i think it was to NoNameLoser). Bill, don't worry, I listen to what people say  | ||
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Meta[SB]
United States59 Posts
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Curt
Germany1 Post
i've some question about the work of this programm, especially for the uncompress function, how does this works? i try to skript a replay up/dl section for us, and with this i may b could able to read all information about the map, the setup and the players and store them in database, with a better catagorize and search function. i'de very pleasured if u could help me with this, u could mail me by leader @ gwars.de gl & hf Curt | ||
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LaptopLegacy
Netherlands602 Posts
On May 05 2003 03:27 Twisted wrote: The thing that matters is if you click precise or just fast :o Naz clicks very precise (watched that at several lan tourneys), as for other people, they click 5 times around the target, and after that they click on it I have an average of 150 actions/minute. If you try to select 5 times, it won't be recorded in the rep file, and thus not count for your apm. However if you've, for example, selected a group of tanks and want to attack something with rightclick and you misclick, then it will be stored. (because it stores 5 commands giving the tanks new directions) But i don't believe the last example happens very often. So the ppl who often 'misselect' don't neccesary(sp?) have to be ppl that have high apm's. | ||
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ZyPhReX
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