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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6120 Posts
August 18 2012 02:27 GMT
#201
no sAviOr?
#1 Terran hater
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
August 18 2012 02:57 GMT
#202
On August 18 2012 04:38 rift wrote:
The numbers are deflating bc they showed them. After it was hidden people had 94 and higher but now you get downvoting.


This is a saddening truth about most of us asians a lot of times we're not content with just upvoting the ones we like or downvoting the antifans we'll downvote the others too to try and make a more significant difference.. :\
Nearly no one tries to be impartial about it at all
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 03:19:28
August 18 2012 03:18 GMT
#203
They should seriously just discount votes from those who are down-voting people like Boxer, yellow, NaDa etc... How low can you go.
ESV Mapmaking!
FullNatural
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States180 Posts
August 18 2012 03:23 GMT
#204
IPX Zerg <3
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
August 18 2012 03:27 GMT
#205
On August 18 2012 11:22 rift wrote:
poor Fanta about to drop out of the running. I guess 5 time starleague finalist doesn't cut it -_-

NOOOO!!

PEOPLE PLEASE! KEEP FANTA ALIVE!!

T-T
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
August 18 2012 03:29 GMT
#206
On August 18 2012 12:27 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 11:22 rift wrote:
poor Fanta about to drop out of the running. I guess 5 time starleague finalist doesn't cut it -_-

NOOOO!!

PEOPLE PLEASE! KEEP FANTA ALIVE!!

T-T


He has over 60% so he is safe for now
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 03:57:22
August 18 2012 03:50 GMT
#207
why the fuck are people bothering to downvote midas rofl. I get not voting for someone but actively going out to downvote him? Especially as he is more kind of middle old era, not a complete ancient (or someone who is good in PL but may not deserve immediate induction to hall of fame, like Leta or Sea)

same with iris and kal.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 18 2012 03:53 GMT
#208
On August 18 2012 04:08 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:59 zerious wrote:
ZerO has one dedicated fanbase, I love him, but there is no way he should be there


Yeah, it seems strange that he has more votes than GGPlay (who was a more accomplished Zerg player on the same team!...)

For shits and giggles, here's my list of people I think should be in a Hall of Fame (by some sort of arbitrary "Tier" list):

Tier 1:
Boxer, NaDa, Oov, [Savior...], Jaedong, Flash

Tier 2:
Grrrr, Garimto, YellOw, Nal_rA, July, Jangbi, Fantasy, Stork, Bisu

Tier 3:
H.O.T., XellOs, Elky, Reach, Gorush, Chojja, Kingdom, Anytime, GGPlay

Tier 4:
Foreigners: some players before 2001 (Slayer, Maynard, Sven... though this is kind of a different category, whatever), Legionnaire
Koreans: some players before 2001 (not really sure), ChRh, Mumyung, IntoTheRainbow, Sync, Silent_Control, Pusan, TheMarine, fOru, Zeus, Jju, Goodfriend, Oversky, Midas, Iris, Casy, [Hwasin...], Best, Kal, Sea, Effort, Zero

Also some other oldies that I'm too noob to know about might be here (Junwi, sigamari, Ssamjang, Eros~Rage, Sir@Soni, Sonic)Black, [Oops]Lee, JoyO, V-Gundam, Clon, Kos, Jinnam/Jinsu, TeratO, Ogogo, Yooi...)

Also, the "hilarious players Hall of Fame":
Mumyung, Chalrenge, Rock, FBH, Backho, Jaehoon.
July should be Tier 1. He's a Golden Mouse winner and popularized (even if not invented) a completely new way to play a race that's still in heavy use today.
Also, Garimto and Reach should probably move up a Tier, their accomplishments compared to their race's overall accomplishments make them more significant.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 18 2012 04:16 GMT
#209
July's "innovation" to the zerg race was to carelessly flop against his opponents until they died in the same way a paraplegic may try to tear down a brick wall with their face. He would be an minor after thought if not for abusively playing his way through the easiest set of opponents to a title ever when he was way beyond his prime. He's fine right where he is at 2nd tier.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
August 19 2012 04:19 GMT
#210
On August 18 2012 13:16 hacklebeast wrote:
July's "innovation" to the zerg race was to carelessly flop against his opponents until they died in the same way a paraplegic may try to tear down a brick wall with their face. He would be an minor after thought if not for abusively playing his way through the easiest set of opponents to a title ever when he was way beyond his prime. He's fine right where he is at 2nd tier.

SKT tag + Best's involvement of that 0-3 EVER '08 leads me to say: boo hoo
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 19 2012 04:59 GMT
#211
Uh, I only pointed the most obvious reasons, actually July has developed his own map-optimizing builds with many subtleties in them, but I guess you wouldn't care about that if you don't play zerg. July's madness is much more calculated than it looks.
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vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
August 19 2012 05:36 GMT
#212
If more people actually watched Iris vs. sAviOr from Shinhan-3, and generally Iris's games from that time period, Iris would be higher on this list.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
August 19 2012 05:50 GMT
#213
Savior's whole legacy is tainted no matter what you say about it. I like the comparison between steroid users in the MLB and an eSport should have some integrety and be held to a high standard as well. Honestly I dont know why people arent refering to him as he who should not be named so we can finally stop remembering how he forsake everything for money which he was already earning for doing something he supposedly loved and others only wish they could make money doing professionally.
dark_dragoon10
Profile Joined May 2010
United States299 Posts
August 19 2012 07:08 GMT
#214
wow fanta is so close... and why not kingdom, Grrrr..., Garimto, and Effort!! we must push these guys into it!!!!! RALLY IT UP we need a foreigner in the Hall of Fame
The TYRANT IS BACK! JAEDONG HWAITING! Nal_rA, Yellow, Boxer 4 life. Stephano, MC, and Zergbong!!!!
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 19 2012 07:45 GMT
#215
On August 19 2012 13:19 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 13:16 hacklebeast wrote:
July's "innovation" to the zerg race was to carelessly flop against his opponents until they died in the same way a paraplegic may try to tear down a brick wall with their face. He would be an minor after thought if not for abusively playing his way through the easiest set of opponents to a title ever when he was way beyond his prime. He's fine right where he is at 2nd tier.

SKT tag + Best's involvement of that 0-3 EVER '08 leads me to say: boo hoo


I am willing to admit that if he hadn't deprived my favorite player of his championship, I probably wouldn't have thrown in the part about the retarded paraplegic.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11296 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 08:42:11
August 19 2012 08:40 GMT
#216
Unfortunately, this is essentially a popularity contest so no matter how good/ influential your play is back then, if you don't have the fan base to vote for you, you won't make the cut.

Top 10 right now is like:
BoxeR
NaDa
Nal_rA
YellOw
July
iloveoov
Reach
FlaSh
Jaedong
Bisu

Man, NaDa has a lot of fans, he was at 82% when I started writing this, now 86% (same as BoxeR).

Oh yes and go Kingdom!!!
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 18:30:10
August 19 2012 17:04 GMT
#217
(Z)EffOrt being so low is fucked. He was a phenomenon in 2009, and his title win over Flash was great. He was right up there as the second best zerg for a time, and was borderline on TBLS along with Fantasy for ages. (And seriously how is ZerO higher than EffOrt?!). Also just look at his page, he has 60% wins. Hardly anyone has a life-time win-rate of 60%. I don't actually mind ZerO being in the list, I think he should be below EffOrt. I feel ZerO is more at the Best, Calm level.

Other players being low that piss me off:

(T)Iris. Seriously -_-.

(P)Kingdom .

(Z)Calm. He won a starleague and was a total force for about a year in PL.

(P)Best. One of the best protoss players, third best Dragon. I don't mind if he doesn't make it in, but he has been a damn good player for a long time.

(T)Sea.

Although (T)Sea is borderline. Still feel he deserves a bit more love though. Ditto (T)Leta really. 58% win-rates are tough to come by.

Oh, and (T)Midas.

On August 17 2012 01:08 SeeKeR wrote:
I'm going to be honest:

I think most of the people in the negatives is not really because people think they don't deserve it. I think it was because originally, you could only vote for one person, so everyone down voted all the others


If that's the reason, then that is terrible.

On August 15 2012 16:56 red4ce wrote:
My minimum criteria would be players who won at least 2 individual leagues ((T)Flash, (T)NaDa, (Z)Jaedong, (T)iloveoov, (P)Bisu, (Z)July, (T)BoxeR, ,(P)GARIMTO, (Z)NalrA, (P)JangBi), was the #1 ranked player of his race for over a year ((Z)YellOw, (P)Reach, (P)Stork) or held the #1 overall Kespa rank at any time ((Z)ChoJJa, (T)Fantasy). I presume the warning up top is regarding (Z)sAviOr so I won't get into that.

I quite like the bar being set this high, good list too.
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 23:11:41
August 19 2012 23:11 GMT
#218
On August 19 2012 17:40 c3rberUs wrote:
Unfortunately, this is essentially a popularity contest so no matter how good/ influential your play is back then, if you don't have the fan base to vote for you, you won't make the cut.

Top 10 right now is like:
BoxeR
NaDa
Nal_rA
YellOw
July
iloveoov
Reach
FlaSh
Jaedong
Bisu

Man, NaDa has a lot of fans, he was at 82% when I started writing this, now 86% (same as BoxeR).

Oh yes and go Kingdom!!!

I think in order to prevent this popularity vote from overtaking the entire thing, they do have a third process in which commentators and the media approve of the votes. Unfortunately, the players have to have over 60% approval of votes before the third process can begin
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 20 2012 00:23 GMT
#219
On August 19 2012 16:08 dark_dragoon10 wrote:
wow fanta is so close... and why not kingdom, Grrrr..., Garimto, and Effort!! we must push these guys into it!!!!! RALLY IT UP we need a foreigner in the Hall of Fame


I'm assuming there is a very small number who will get in, and if that is the case then how can you even begin to think players like Effort or Grrr deserve to be in the first selection over those with much more distinguished careers?
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
August 20 2012 00:26 GMT
#220
On August 20 2012 02:04 Subversive wrote:
(Z)Calm. He won a starleague and was a total force for about a year in PL.

No, he didn't.
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