EPTI really want SC2 to fail with DOTA 2 coming soon or even to LoL .. now that would be the ultimate irony !
Yes I'm still bitter and pissed that SC2 is replacing BW :[
Grape retires, forms LoL team with ex-KHAN Players - Page 6
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SkelA
Macedonia13040 Posts
I really want SC2 to fail with DOTA 2 coming soon or even to LoL .. now that would be the ultimate irony ! Yes I'm still bitter and pissed that SC2 is replacing BW :[ | ||
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NonFactor
Sweden698 Posts
On June 15 2012 23:36 archonOOid wrote: Why aren't Koreans picking up dota2 as money can be made there too? Is it because of the tough competition? Why aren't Koreans picking up hockey? As money can be made there too? The reason is simple, LoL has gained a dominant position in Korea currently and in the DOMESTIC market, there will be more money to be made then through LoL. It's simply the more popular game. If the current trend continues LoL will be the biggest e-sport in korea. It has beat out Dota 2. And yes, I'm aware Dota 2 is still ''in beta'', but they've been trying to promote e-sports for a long time now, so the chances of anything changing when Dota finally ''releases'' are slim. | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
On June 15 2012 23:56 NonFactor wrote: Why aren't Koreans picking up hockey? As money can be made there too? The reason is simple, LoL has gained a dominant position in Korea currently and in the DOMESTIC market, there will be more money to be made then through LoL. It's simply the more popular game. If the current trend continues LoL will be the biggest e-sport in korea. It has beat out Dota 2. And yes, I'm aware Dota 2 is still ''in beta'', but they've been trying to promote e-sports for a long time now, so the chances of anything changing when Dota finally ''releases'' are slim. If this goes on, LoL will be THE esport on the whole planet, that games popularity is trough the roof | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On June 15 2012 23:58 Darksoldierr wrote: If this goes on, LoL will be THE esport on the whole planet, that games popularity is trough the roof Yup, Riot has quite the efficient marketing department, it's really astounding how quickly that game got popular once they actively started promoting it. Blizzard (and in case of Dota 2 Valve) really need to step up their game to have a chance at keeping up. | ||
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brolaf
291 Posts
On June 15 2012 21:52 StarStruck wrote: The thing is you can keep expecting/anticipating this all you want. Doesn't mean it's going to happen. You cannot go back in history and rewrite time man. Yeah.. Lol is just too damn addictive, lol. Hard to imagine other games challenging it at the moment | ||
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maLaK1
Germany124 Posts
On June 15 2012 17:09 LeapofFaith wrote: Hmmm any reason why quite a few ex-SC players are moving to LoL? I think thats a good decision as much as I like SC2 and dislike LoL I think the future of esports is LoL / Dota 2 for the next few years, | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On June 16 2012 00:15 brolaf wrote: Yeah.. Lol is just too damn addictive, lol. Hard to imagine other games challenging it at the moment A lot of LoL's playerbase is built off it being free to play. I'd be willing to bet that many LoL fans switch over to the next big free game when it comes out. | ||
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maLaK1
Germany124 Posts
On June 15 2012 18:06 M2 wrote: His decision man and it's possible that Brave also was part of this and influence grape to come over to LoL because sc2 isn't the same as broodwar .Grape and brave probably thinks that sc2 is not as fun as bw ? It's possible ... I think a lot of the BW pros think this, but are scared to say it because they make their living playing BW, and BW is gone now | ||
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brolaf
291 Posts
On June 16 2012 00:08 Morfildur wrote: Yup, Riot has quite the efficient marketing department, it's really astounding how quickly that game got popular once they actively started promoting it. Blizzard (and in case of Dota 2 Valve) really need to step up their game to have a chance at keeping up. Its not really that, its making the game accessible that counts. You gotta remember that Korea is still a somewhat price and requirement sensitive market, with lower budgets and hardware than most western countries do. So LoL with its free play and low requirements has everything it needs for explosive popularity. Dota on the other hand, will have significantly higher requirements as far as i know. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On June 16 2012 00:17 SupLilSon wrote: A lot of LoL's playerbase is built off it being free to play. I'd be willing to bet that many LoL fans switch over to the next big free game when it comes out. Nah, 65% of my gamer friends plays LoL and about 70% of them said that "Now I know how you feel about BW." and would actually want to play the game in their 50s and beyond because this is the game that they identify themselves with. Now I am kind of on a tilt to whether or not to join them in this conquest because I too want to play BW in my elderly time! | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
They also might enjoy it more than SC2. And if Blizz really cared about esports, it would have been free in PC bangs, at least. | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
On June 16 2012 00:20 Xiphos wrote: Nah, 65% of my gamer friends plays LoL and about 70% of them said that "Now I know how you feel about BW." and would actually want to play the game in their 50s and beyond because this is the game that they identify themselves with. Now I am kind of on a tilt to whether or not to join them in this conquest because I too want to play BW in my elderly time! Yeah. The guys I learned to know online since ~2005-2006 that are still gaming are all playing LoL now. All of them are not playing seriously but they all play the game at least. And this are people that comes from a competitive scene in other games like CS 1.6, CoD 2 and 4, HoN, DotA, BW and SC2. My only real-life friends that was into games when we were in school played WoW during that time and they are all playing LoL now aswell. Even people that didn't game before are playing LoL now. It's fucking crazy how many people there are playing this game. With that said, I think the attention and playerbase that LoL has gotten is just to damn big to lose players to "the next big thing". In fact, LoL is the next big thing for years to come because the competitive scene hasn't even started to what it will become. It also makes me kind of sad that it wasn't Starcraft or another RTS that got into this position. SC2 had the biggest chans at release to early 2011 but Blizzard blew it hardcore because of greed and incompetence. Now it's to late. | ||
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maLaK1
Germany124 Posts
On June 16 2012 00:37 Gosi wrote: With that said, I think the attention and playerbase that LoL has gotten is just to damn big to lose players to "the next big thing". In fact, LoL is the next big thing for years to come because the competitive scene hasn't even started to what it will become. It also makes me kind of sad that it wasn't Starcraft or another RTS that got into this position. SC2 had the biggest chans at release to early 2011 but Blizzard blew it hardcore because of greed and incompetence. Now it's to late. I agree with this, the only question that remains for me is if Dota 2 can dethrone LoL, the pros should side with Dota 2, but can Dota 2 grab the main playerbase from LoL? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On June 16 2012 00:27 0neder wrote: They also might enjoy it more than SC2. And if Blizz really cared about esports, it would have been free in PC bangs, at least. If they really cared about Esports, they would have added LAN already and made B.net more sociable. Or if they truly cared about Esport, they wouldn't have sued Broadcasting station for making their game so popular. Or if they truly care about Esport, they would have...etc., etc., etc, | ||
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
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marcelluspye
United States155 Posts
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On June 16 2012 00:17 brolaf wrote: Its not really that, its making the game accessible that counts. You gotta remember that Korea is still a somewhat price and requirement sensitive market, with lower budgets and hardware than most western countries do. So LoL with its free play and low requirements has everything it needs for explosive popularity. Dota on the other hand, will have significantly higher requirements as far as i know. you gotta be kidding me. Dota is and always has been free and has much lower computer spec requirement (although lol spec requirement is pretty much the same as sc2). Guess what happened during the time lol didn't exist. Koreans played a dota clone called Chaos, dota never saw popularity in korea. It's simply because koreans find lol fun, that it's popular in korea. The general population in korea doesn't give a flying fuck about marketing or doing things for esports, they are not that stupid. So please quit it with the "oh its free, that's why its popular" shenanigans. | ||
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ellerina
Philippines452 Posts
 If the BW veterans feel bitter over the whole hybrid-PL no more BW in x months arrangement, the 'new guard' must feel doubly bitter- they were just starting to establish a name for themselves but now the rug has been pulled out entirely from under them. I wonder which A-teamers are going to make a similar announcement next gl with LoL, Grape, Brave, and the others! If it is as big as the people in this thread have been saying it is, I can certainly see why they'd want to try their hand at it. I really wish the BW pro-scene would have been kept alive somehow, even if reduced teams or playing time or whatever. Alas.... | ||
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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
On June 16 2012 00:40 Xiphos wrote: If they really cared about Esports, they would have added LAN already and made B.net more sociable. Or if they truly cared about Esport, they wouldn't have sued Broadcasting station for making their game so popular. Or if they truly care about Esport, they would have...etc., etc., etc, Indeed, it really looks like Blizz and Co. have shot themselves in both feet, right hand and left testicle when it came to releasing and promoting SCToo in the most important market (Korea). So many mind bogglingly-bad decisions later it's not that big of a surprise that the popularity of the sequel can't get any ground. Not to mention driving away the potential fans among BW followers. It's easy to say 'you reap what you sow' and move on, but avoiding those mistakes would have been easy as well. Well it's interesting to see how many ex-pros will move on (after September) to LoL and other games. Other than FPS genre, nothing is able to challenge the popularity of LoL in Korea. Still I kind of wish they moved to Dota2 instead, which I like watching more than LoL. The lack of comeback opportunities in the latter spoils the fun a bit | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37028 Posts
On a side note: holy crap.... it's going to be frustrating to see my beloved BW players switch over to LoL instead of SC2..... | ||
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