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[SPL] Grand Final Recap - Victory at Last!

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[SPL] Grand Final Recap - Victory at Last!

Text byKiante
Graphics byHawaiianPig and Hyde
April 16th, 2012 05:35 GMT
Photo: dailyesports.com


And here we are. It seems like just yesterday we started the season and now it's over. Luckily for us, what could potentially be the last real* Proleague ended on a happy note with the greatest team ever to grace this fantastic game winning in a close and exciting series. That's right, SKT did it. [Editors Note: Yes I am really really biased] Mission accomplished. All those nights spent feeling gutted after we lost a finals or just a regular game. All those times we stayed up late to cheer on Bisu just to be dissapointed. All those threads in which we argued why SKT was the best KT, just to get temp banned by a mod. All of those times were worth it. SKT are the rightful champions of the SK Planet Proleague season one and finally we get to bask in victory.

That being said, it would be shameful of me to forget to mention KT and the other teams that fought out for the title against us. KT struggled through tough playoff games against CJ and KHAN with their Zergs showing the other teams how it's done (HoeJJa wtf bro) and they truly made a valiant effort in the grand final. However KT's fatal weakness turned out to be the player who was the reason they made it to the finals in the first place, Flash. After going on an incredible tear in the regular season, his 14 game win streak was only broken in the final round by some interesting Protoss timing attacks. Flash couldn't bring that level of performance when it really mattered. First he was taken down by a jubilant Fantasy in yet another of their fantastic TvTs and then was bested by Bisu in the ace match, surrendering the title to SKT.

It's hard to imagine what I'll do with my time if our Brood War Proleague is in fact going away, but going out like this in such an epic series, it seems worthy of the occasion. The games that were played for us were of such excitement and quality that you should be able to appreciate them regardless of which team you support. I don't think I was the only one to shed tears, and whether they were tears of sadness or tears or happiness, the fact that a simple computer game has developed to a point where it can generate such an impassioned response shows just how amazing this game has become, and just how emotionally involved we all are.

Now enough of the soppy stuff, let's take a look at what we've got for you to enjoy in this writeup. First off, we have the standard recaps that you should've become accustomed too if you've been following the writeup throughout the season. To follow up on the most exciting games of the series, we have a pair of battle reports showcasing both Fantasy and Bisu's wins over Flash to help you relive the feelings that these games invoked. We've had riptide back to give a commentary on what this victory really means to SKT fans and Brood War fans in general. Continuing on from last week we've had our resident artist Kiett finish her Manga epic (go read episode one and two first!) which has been so popular in our playoffs coverage this season.

Our preview writer kjwcj has given us a comprehensive player report card from the grand final series as there was nothing to preview this week. Finally, our man on the ground konadora has documented his experiences at the event and what it meant to him to help you imagine it like you were there.

Hopefully you enjoy all the content our dedicated writers have been providing all season and depending on what ends up happening hopefully we'll see you all soon!

--Kiante




*yes i'm a BW elitist


Table of Contents


Recaps

Fantasy vs Flash: Ground Zero

Bisu vs Flash: Chain Reaction

Heir Indeed

SPL Manga: Episode Three

Grand Final Player Rankings

Live Experience


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(P)Bisu « Neo Chain Reaction » (P)Wooki

Wookie came out first for KT and threw down the gauntlet with a crazy build that necessitated hiding his first gateway and getting a nexus before even picking up his gas. Despite some decent zealot micro by Bisu, his DT follow-up was neutered by a flawlessly placed gateway and some cannons, ensuring that Wookie entered the mid-game in a favourable position. Unfortunately, Wookie forgot to factor in the power of storm-drops, and Bisu utilised them to shred his economy, managing to wrest the lead from the younger Protoss. After the economic damage was done, Wookie was easily overwhelmed.

(T)Fantasy « Ground Zero » (T)Flash

One of the matchups people were hoping to see in the finals occurred early on in the series with Flash being sent out on his favourite map, Ground Zero, only to be met by a stalwart Fantasy. After a botched vulture drop, Fantasy looked to be on the back foot, but managed to use his dropships to zone off Flash's tanks, cutting the main Tank ball in half and crushing it easily. The game went on from there, with Flash always losing ground. Despite a heroic attempt to come back with a huge doom drop that levelled Fantasy's main, the economic advantage Fantasy had secured in the mid-game had allowed him to rebuild and switch to wraiths, which slowly picked away at Flash, securing SKT’s position with a two zero lead in the series.

(Z)n.Die_soO « Jade » (Z)Action

KT was on the ropes; having already sent out its Ace to no avail, it was up to the KT Zergs to do their business and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Action was the first up, and he managed to do his job in a kooky game against Soo. Both players opened up with nine-pools, with Action evolving zergling speed first (and scouting later), while Soo opted for an earlier lair.

While Soo managed to snipe the first mutalisks with his early scourge, he was forced into the role of aggressor as Action used the map controls his speedlings afforded him to take an expansion. Bizarrely, the game ended up in something of a base race, with each player sending his lings to the other’s base and missing one another on the way. Action was quick to send his drones to roam the map, while Soo let his die and soon found himself in a position in which he had only two buildings remaining, with neither drones nor money to produce more. Action, by contrast, had saved a considerable number of his own drones. Of course, Soo still had the muta advantage, but Action stalled long enough to get a spore colony up, securing the game.

(T)Ssak « Sniper Ridge » (Z)Crazy-Hydra

Crazy-Hydra came out next for KT and was met by Ssak, the second-string Terran from SKT who hadn't had many games during the regular season. In what would be a see-sawing game, Crazy-Hydra managed to hold off Ssak’s attack, and eventually was able to overpower his Terran opponent by taking advantage of a superior economy that Ssak proved unable to shut down in the mid to late game.

(P)By.Sun « Neo Outlier » (P)Stats

Sun was sent out for SKT to strike back at the KT zergs, but instead was met by Stats. If you showed anyone the initial build orders, they would say the game should have been a sure win for Stats; stats opted for a DT-expand build order against a three-gate from Sun. Sun managed to sniff out the build with his goons and was able to use them to delay the DT from getting to his main, saving probes while he got his observer out. He then faked an expand, and instead mined out the two backdoor mineral patches to hit Stats from behind.

The positioning was superb, and, despite fighting hard with fantastic probe drills, the damage was done. Sun took the win, putting his team one game away from the proleague title.

(P)BeSt « Neo Electric Circuit » (Z)HoeJJa

Once again KT was forced to lean on the broad shoulders of its Zerg heroes; who better to stand up for his team when it mattered than the playoff-beast Hoejja. When it matters, Hoejja has a habit of piling on the pressure, and this time was no exception.

While Best attempted to get up to four bases without being too aggressive, Hoejja took the time this strategy gave him to take four bases of his own and get up to hive-tech. He then proceeded to put on a clinic on how to kill Protoss armies, flinging out effortless plagues and ensnares, while he battered down Best until, shattered and broken, he gave KT the victory.

The Ace match had been forced.

Ace Match
(P)Bisu « Neo Chain Reaction » (T)Flash

While it has been argued that Fantasy has been SKT's ace this season, realistically Bisu is the one that SKT would always turn to, considering his experience under pressure and his general form last season, especially on a map that teams have actively avoided sending Terran players out on.

The game started out strange and slowly evolved into something epic from there. Bisu proxied a gateway right in Flash's scouting path, with Flash scouting it just as construction began. Flash went with a two-barracks response to the proxy, but Bisu made it work, throwing down extra gates at his main, putting on a ton of pressure, and throwing Flash off his game. Flash rallied and pushed into Bisu's backdoor with a squad of tanks and some marine medic. He then managed to hold his position and deny mining at Bisu's main, even sniping his cybernetics core.

Bisu then pumped out a bunch of speedlots and rushed Flash's undefended natural, wrecking the SCVs and all the other forces there. When Bisu’s reinforcements arrived, a crushed Flash was forced to GG and concede the grand final to SKT.

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This is the match-up everyone has been waiting for all season, two players with stellar season records going head-to-head for the first time to decide who will reign supreme. Ground Zero is where this titanic battle takes place; Fantasy, the ‘Crown Prince’ and heir to the Lim Yo Hwan Terran linage, spawns at eleven o'clock, while Flash, the ‘Ultimate Weapon’, emerges at seven o’clock.

Fantasy starts his depot and barracks at his ramp, placing them in a manner that will create a wall-in. Flash builds his barracks close to his ramp while sending out an SCV. The SCV sets out North, heading straight for Fantasy’s main. The scout arrives before the wall is finished and begins to survey the enemy base. Fantasy completes the wall, trapping Flash’s SCV inside the main where its eyes won’t see the factory at the natural. Fantasy deploys his own scout soon after to keep tabs on Flash's activities.

Fantasy finds Flash with a CC going up at the natural along with a bunker. Fantasy gets his own CC started after making a vulture, then a machine-shop is added to the factory and a starport is made inside the main.

Meanwhile, Flash constructs two factories inside his main, sends workers to mine at the natural and adds an armory.

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Fantasy vultures are best vultures


Fantasy’s barracks floats over Flash’s natural, giving him another glimpse inside enemy territory. Speed vultures race out of Fantasy’s natural, managing to avoid Flash’s scout. The vultures rendezvous with a dropship at nine o’clock and sets out to complete its mission. A single vulture is dropped on the high ledge at the natural, disrupting mining, while the rest are dropped inside the main. Flash dispatches units and swiftly handles the early harass, but Fantasy isn’t finished just yet. The dropship is seen flying to the right side of Flash’s main, where two more vultures are dropped off at the edge. The vultures lay mines and begin hunting down SCVs. Flash rushes his tanks back to defend the main, allowing the workers to return to their mining duties.

Fantasy continues the early aggression by dropping two tanks at the natural’s high ledge, Flash quickly brings more tanks to cover the natural and as they arrive, Fantasy air-lifts his tanks to safety.

Fantasy adds his fourth factory, while Flash adds his third.

Flash moves out with a handful of tanks and sieges up outside Fantasy’s natural. Fantasy uses his dropship to position his units along the path where Flash’s reinforcements will run, cutting off Flash’s units from fortifying the current contain.

Flash sets up a small defensive tank line outside his own natural, while sending out a valkyrie and wraith to search for the dropship. Fantasy continues to drop units outside nine o’clock, his dropship comes under attack from Flash’s wraith and valkyrie, but Fantasy has anticipated the attack and has already called fo wraiths to escort the dropship, they cloak themselves and fire at Flash’s air units. Without any detection, Flash is forced to retreat his wriath and valkyrie, the crowd cheers wildly as Fantasy’s wraiths focus-down the valkyrie down.

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Death From Above


Fantasy’s wraiths set their eyes on Flash’s small contain, the lone goliath bares the brunt of the wraiths’ lasers before a scan goes off to reveal the flying death machines, the goliath doesn’t last long and soon the defenseless tanks come under fire. They’re forced to un-siege and withdraw but Fantasy pursues them, wiping them all out. The camera shifts to the SKT bench where they applaud the Crown Prince’s performance thus far.

Fantasy adds more factories in his main along with an armory. Flash is pumping from four factories and starts ramping up valkyrie production.

Both players create a siege-line outside nine o’clock, both lose a few units while setting up the standoff. Fantasy takes his third base at 11.5, more tanks are rallied to the battle lines to bolster defenses. Vultures race around the map, dropping mines along the way as the campaign for map control begins.

The siege-line extends across the map, Flash’s tanks sustain damage from mines as they traverse the terrain, Fantasy capitalizes on the weakened units and advances, killing a few more units in another quick skirmish. Flash floats his third over to 6.5 but mines delay him from planting the expansion.
Fantasy’s wraiths spot the third and maneuver to the back of Flash’s tank line, finding them defenseless to an air invasion, the crowd cheers again upon seeing more tanks blown up by the paper planes. Fantasy recalls his wraiths to safety before Flash’s valkyrie squadron arrive.

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Fantasy slowly gaining ground, and by ground I mean victory


Fantasy continues his aggression, sending his vulture gang forth to attack the weakened tanks, forcing Flash to pull back his units, which allowing Fantasy's tank line to push forward.

Fantasy takes his fourth expansion at one o’clock while his vultures race around the center and charge into Flash’s third. The vultures lay mines as Flash sends his own vultures to defend, as the vulture fire at each other, an SCV train-line enters into the expansion, allowing Fantasy to net some worker kills before his vultures perish.

Both players acquire +1 weapons upgrade, Flash adds more factories inside his main and sends out troops to cover the southeastern portion of the map.

Flash sends out a gang of vultures to scout and attack Fantasy’s vulnerable third. The crowd cheers with a mixture of concern and excitement as Flash assaults the mineral line. Wraiths are scrambled to handle the raid.

Flash starts a fourth expansion at 5.5, Fantasy’s dropship flies by spotting the new expansion, a vulture is dropped, killing the SCV and halting the completion of the command center, three more vultures are unloaded at the third, causing havoc at the mineral line. Flash's SCVs are forced to flee while the vultures take out the drop. Fantasy continues his attacks, sending wraiths over to Flash’s tanks, Flash responds swiftly and sends his valkyrie fleet to cover his defenses.

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Battle lines continue to grow


Flash starts a fifth at five o’clock, SCVs already en route to begin mining as soon as the CC is completed. The tank-lines have extended all the way to the right side of the map, with Fantasy holding a little more ground.

Fantasy continues production from his seven factories, his armories spinning and a science facility under way.

Flash gathers three dropships, they move out towards Fantasy’s natural, they’re spotted by turrets along the way and Flash uses his valkyries to draw fire. Fantasy’s wraiths are alerted of the incoming assault and dart back to defend. At the same time Fantasy starts his fifth base at two o’clock, and orchestrates another vulture raid at Flash’s fifth.
The wraiths cloak themselves and begin targeting Flash's dropships, they shift their attention on the tanks, taking multiple volleys before Flash realizes and scans to reveal them. Fantasy withdraws his wraiths but loses almost all of them before they can get away, but not before they've dealt enough damage to severely weaken Flash’s drop . Tanks clean up the rest of the drop and Fantasy resumes mining.

Fantasy’s vultures are still present at Flash’s fifth, more SCVs die as enter the expansion to mine, the crowd continues to cheer and applaud as Fantasy appears to be everywhere. Flash rallies a few tanks and vultures to finally stem the attack at his fifth.

At this point, Flash has +2 weapons on his ground units, while Fantasy has 1-1.

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Fantasy cares not for your tank numbers and charges in


Fantasy mobilizes a large chunk of his tanks and charges into Flash’s tank line, both sides lose a number of tanks. Flash manages to hold the offensive, blowing up more tanks as Fantasy tries to push in.

Fantasy continues production from his eight factories, he repositions a large number of his units, concentrating much of his forces to breaking Flash’s tank-line near the natural, both players sustain multiple losses as they exchange fire. Flash quickly reinforces his tank line and holds off Fantasy’s offensive.

Two science vessels are seen on the flying over the battlefield to aid Fantasy's ground force. More reinforcements are rallied to strengthen Fantasy’s assault.

Fantasy his sixth expansion, while rallying units towards the southeastern side for another blitz. Fantasy advances but Flash has mobilized his forces via dropship, completely blocking Fantasy’s assault and destroying a large number of tanks.

Fantasy secures his seventh base, his ground units now armed with 2-2; Flash still on 2-0.
Fantasy continues his campaign to take down Flash’s fifth and sixth, constantly attacking Flash’s defenses, eventually punching a hole and breaking through. SCVs are pulled to fight off the vultures as Flash’s dropships arrive to provide some relief.

Fantasy secures nine o’clock, the last remaining expansion as his eighth base, turrets line the edges to ensure dropships don’t enter without paying a price.

Flash loads up a number of dropships just as Fantasy's forces surge forward. Flash maneuvers his dropships past Fantasy’s army and into Fantasy’s main. The entire payload is delivered and Fantasy’s factories and depots come under heavy fire. Fantasy’s units head halfway back to the main before they’re commanded back to the front lines. Depots and factories are quickly demolished, the KT bench looks hopeful as Flash deals a violent blow to Fantasy, but the Crown Prince has other plans.

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Flash will never go quietly, ever.


Screams are heard from the crowd as Flash continues to level Fantasy’s main. Over at his one o’clock expansion, Fantasy begins mass construction of starports. The KT coach looks on anxiously.

Flash’s own main and natural come under attack as Fantasy pushes in. Flash quickly sets up a small defensive line in an attempt to halt the offensive with the few units he has. Flashes mobilizes his dropships, sending them to attack Fantasy’s northeastern bases but are soon intercepted by goliaths and turrets, resulting in a few being blown out of the sky. The dropships deliver what’s left of the payload, but Fantasy as already taken the necessary steps to mitigate any damage.

Flash’s +3 ground forces tear down the last structure in Fantasy’s main and head to nine o’clock, where they demolish another expansion as Flash tries to make a comback. At the same time Fantasy mounts another assault on Flash’s four and five o’clock expansion. SCVs are pulled to aid Flash’s tank line, but the numbers are too strong and Flash loses control of the expansion.

Flash sends his units to attack Fantasy’s northeastern expansions; Fantasy relinquishes control of Flash’s main and natural choke, ordering his units to return to one o’clock to defend the incoming attack.
As Flash’s tank-heavy army arrives at Fantasy’s two o’clock, wraiths appear from above, making short work of the goliaths and the helpless tanks. The SKT bench applaud fervently as Flash’s tank numbers diminish.

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Flash's units chilling inside the main as the war continues


A large number of units are seen sitting inside Flash’s main, unaware that the contain outside had disappeared.

The game is quickly slipping away and Flash has less than two mining bases left, he marshals the large number of troops inside his main and moves out. Meanwhile Fantasy’s wraiths attack five o’clock, killing turrets before they can go up along with the SCVs building them, further weakening Flash's mining activities.

Flash’s last battalion moves out, destroying a small roadblock of tanks. As they reach the center of the map, they’re intercepted by two control groups of cloaked wraiths, scans go off but the goliaths are no match for squadron of wraiths. The tanks are soon rendered powerless to the laser fire and Flash is forced to withdraw his force.

Flash loses his four o'clock, his five o'clock comes under attack one again, Fantasy's un-sieged tanks quickly annihilate the SCVs with a little d-matrix help. The SKT bench cheers once more with big smiles on their faces.

Time is running out for Flash and he attempts to bulldoze another enemy expansion, but his own establishments come under attack, siege tanks bombard his five o’clock and wraiths decimate his worker population at 5.5.

‘Jung Myung Hoon!’, the crowd chants the Crown Princes name zealously as Fantasy draws closer to victory. His wraiths begin to swarm around Flash's bases, obliterating the 5.5 expansion and assaulting Flash’s main.

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Death From Above 2: Raining Lasers


Flash destroys Fantasy’s three o’clock and sends his remaining units to attack the northeastern base which houses Fantasy's starports . Fantasy pulls SCVs to defend and wraiths arrive shortly after. The last of Flash’s units are blasted away.

With no economy and no means to defend himself from the imminent air invasion, Flash bows out after an extensive and valiantly fought battle.

Fantasy’s music fills the air upon his enemy conceding, the crowd roars and the commentators shout out the prolonged ‘gg’. Fantasy throws his chair aside and smashes through the door with a smile on his face. He dashes towards the crowd where he locates his parents, giving them a firm embrace.

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Jung Myung Hoon!


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Who would have thought that it would all come down to this? The Grand Finals, Bisu and Flash, the ACE match.

It seems as though there could be no more perfect end to what could be the final BW-only proleague. That the game would be remembered forever was clear even before it had begun, but as it unfolded we were treated to something truly spectacular. The players sat in their booths with hunger in their eyes, eager to be the one who snatched victory for their team. It was to be the game that would be the final punctuation to a chapter of esports history.

Only one could leave the booth a winner, and he would emerge a hero.

I’ll admit now that, unlike most of my fellow SPL team writers, I'm not particularly fond of Bisu. Nor am I an enormous Flash fan, for that matter. What I am fan of is Brood War, and the excellent games it provides us. So if you were expecting an effusive battle report with veiled references to my undying love for Bisu, I'm afraid you're out of luck (though, if Reach had played...).

That said, let's dive into the game that kept us sitting on the edge of our seats, holding our collective breath. The match started on Neo Chain Reaction, a map reviled by Terran players. Regardless, KT still sent out Flash, because Flash laughs in the face of map imbalances. Bisu, the golden boy who makes ladies swoon, spawned on the left side of the map, while Flash, the machine that can’t be distracted by his opponent's good looks, spawned on the right.

Almost immediately, it was clear that Bisu had practiced extensively for this game; despite everything being on the line, he was confident enough to send his sixth probe towards Flash's base. Of course, Flash, being Flash, deployed his maphack impeccable game sense, sending an early SCV of his own and finding Bisu's proxy pylon just as he planted a gateway right outside Flash’s base. This was a crucial moment. Bisu had been dictating the pace of the game. Having had his gas stolen, Flash was left with no choice but to build a second barracks. He attempted to do so in the far corner of his base, but Bisu scouted it in short order.

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Hi there.


Bisu's first zealot rolled into Flash's base and tried to pick off a stray marine. Flash, with his clever building positioning, managed to hold off the stream of zealots with minimal losses. Once his second barracks finished, Flash had a fair number of marines and was in a position to go on the offensive. His primary target was Bisu's proxy gateway, but zealots are pretty handy when it comes to mopping up marines. Realizing this, Flash retreated to his natural expansion where he began construction of a bunker and a brand new command center. It's worth noting that, while their back and forth micro was going on, Bisu still had a probe in Flash's base and had managed to steal his gas yet again. To add insult to injury, he also dropped manner pylons repeatedly.

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Bisu probe!


Just as the bunker was about to finish, Bisu swept in with his zealot force to pick off as many marines as he could, then continued into Flash's base to do some opportunistic harassment. Flash's expansion was finished by then, and he tried, yet again, to bring down Bisu's proxy gateway. Bisu held it off as long as possible, but eventually found himself overrun by the sheer volume of marines from Flash. Flash tried to push the advantage with his marines and a few SCVs, but Bisu massacred his force with a group of zealots and a smattering of dragoons. Fortunately for Flash, marines are pretty cheap, and he had plenty of them back at home to negate the dragoon harass that followed.

In the meantime, Bisu had taken his natural expansion, followed swiftly by his third. Things had finally calmed down after the frenetic, micro intense, opening ten minutes of the game. Or had they?

Just as things settled down enough for us to begin to consider what an amazing game we were seeing, Flash decided it was time to move out with his medic/marine and tank force. Unbelievably, he made three factories, all with siege workshops, to ensure he could mass tanks quickly enough to catch Bisu off guard.

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Secret to Flash's success - speed hack.


At the same time, Bisu had built a shuttle and a reaver, the combination of which he would normally use to harass. Now though, he had a crisis on his hands. Flash had managed to insinuate his force behind Bisu's main base, a cliff-ledge that is virtually impossible to break once a Terran player sets up camp. Bisu tried to go for a counter-attack with a few of his goons and the reaver-shuttle combo. Unfortunately, those three factories Flash had built were mass-producing tanks; Bisu’s attack was brought to a shuddering stop, and he even lost his shuttle and reaver.

Things were looking grim for Bisu. Flash had successfully sieged up behind Bisu's main base and, adding insult to injury, had managed to take down his cybernetics core. Bisu had no options; he would have to try to break what looked like an impenetrable contain.

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Terran exploiting maps since 1998.


Bisu took significant losses trying to break out of his own base and, while he didn't manage to completely clear a way through the contain, he did manage to cull a number of tanks in the process. In spite of the good work Bisu had done, Flash had continued tank production from his three factories, and was bringing an additional six tanks to reinforce his contain.

Bisu's cybernetics core had been down for quite a while now, and all he could do was to make... more zealots. Which he did, a lot of them. Hemmed in by Flash’s siege line, he countered with two groups of speed zealots, going for an all-or-nothing attack on Flash's main base. Flash reacted to the counter attack brilliantly, building a barracks to block the zealots and pulling all of his SCVs from an expansion to help. Unfortunately, all he had by then was a rake of tanks and, last time I checked, sieged-up tanks are not the best match for speed zealots. Bisu managed to penetrate the great wall of SCVs and brought down Flash’s tanks with his speed zealots.

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Without vultures, Flash had no other choice but to watch his tanks getting decimated.


Seeing his base eaten away, in what we can only imagine was a state of disbelief, Flash typed out his 'GG' while Bisu and the SKT team rejoiced.

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We remember him for 3/3, his destruction of Savior and his PvZ revolution, where a young Protoss emerged from the darkness of Shakuras to overpower and forever defeat the symbol of the swarm. We remember the zip of the corsair in the night sky, the sound of the scythe and the dying murmur of an overlord. A drone is killed, and then a hatchery. Finally, a kingdom falls and a ruler slowly fades away.

We remember an up and coming MBC Protoss at SKY 2006, stepping up to play RainBOw as his team took the Grand Final away from SK Telecom T1.

We remember the transfer, as a newly arrived Coach Park brought over a fresh faced Bisu to SKT and we remember him for carrying us through season after season of victory, delivering win after win in yearlong Proleague seasons. We remember him for leading from the front. We remember him netting MVP and yet watching heartbroken during two finals as his team fell short of the mark.

The faithful old workhorse, time and time again he gave up his own dreams for the greater good, sacrificing his individual league practice time in favour of perfecting his Proleague run. And what a run it has been. His 2010 slump notwithstanding, Bisu has been perhaps the most consistent PL player of the past three years. He is the SKT gold standard, the player who despite his own obvious talent understood that there was something greater than himself.

He had the vision to see that a team was more than just the sum of its players.

He knew that he had a destiny to fulfil, a path to lead them down.

He realised that he was heir to an empire, an empire built by The Emperor himself.

Bisu may not have an OSL gold, and while that will always be a blemish on his otherwise illustrious record, as a SKT fan, this actually makes me smile. Bisu has no OSL medal and indeed, he is a long, long way from a golden mouse. He may not stand up there with Nada and July and Jaedong and Flash and yet, here in these final hours of Broodwar, he took his place up there alongside one greater than all of them.

Today, he stands with Lim Yo Hwan.

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Haters gonna hate.

Boxer gave SK Telecom T1 life and brought it to maturity. Bisu saw it through to its end. Thanks to him, SKT’s spot as the number one ESPORTS franchise of all time will never be in question. We were the best in 2002 and we are the best ten years later. We’ve had our ups and downs, we’ve had our wins and losses. We’ve seen players come and go, and yet, as a team, we have remained.

Till the very end.

SKT is probably going to end up being a mixed team, and like every other outfit during these dying days of Broodwar will most likely dabble in SC2. We may adapt, we may not, but speculation is for tomorrow.

Today, we remember.

We remember SKT for finishing the work that Orion started nearly a decade ago.

We remember Fantasy for dismantling an ultimate weapon.

We remember By.Sun for laughing in the face of death.

We remember Bisu for leading this team we love, and indeed, this game we love, to a beautiful, fitting end.

Time may blur and even erase some memories, but for as long as we remember these months and years that we shared together, and for as long as we mention in reverent whispers those men of legend that shaped our time here, there is a name that will certainly be sounded loud and clear.

Kim Taek Yong. Revolutionist, maverick, leader. King.

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(P)Bisu
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Bisu rose from the ashes of another set of failed Starleague preliminaries to lead his team to its sixth Proleague title, bookending the series with two wins, each of which crucial in its own way. His selection in the opening game against Wooki was a statement of intent from SKT, but early on looked as though it might backfire. However, Bisu was able to overcome his early disadvantage and eventually gave his team a 1-0 lead, lending them a psychological boost as they entered the second game.

His appearance in the ace match was a little easier to predict, but following Flash's loss to Fantasy earlier in the series the threat of a vengeful God loomed large. This game bore all the hallmarks of a Bisu PvT at his peak form; it had aggression, multitasking, and just a slight whiff of cheese. Bisu's well-devised and executed strategy proved too much for Flash, who looked utterly defeated, both in the game and in the booth.

(T)Fantasy
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A potential Fantasy versus Flash match-up was highly anticipated going into the finals and the ensuing game did not disappoint. It was clear who the favourite was going into the second set, with Flash not having lost a TvT all season, while Fantasy had dropped games to Leta and Last. Most impressive of all about Fantasy's win was that he succeeded by playing his trademark style, pressuring Flash early on with vulture drops and then holding his lead, even after losing his main.

Flash still maintains a huge margin of victory in their overall head-to-head statistics, but with this win Fantasy broke Flash's undefeated streak in Proleague finals, extending his own to an unparalleled six games.


(P)By.Sun
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Sun ended what has been an up and down season for him with another crucial finals win for his team. Having established an early lead by sending their two heavy hitters, SKT found themselves back on level terms at 2-2. With Stats and HoeJJa remaining, the possibility of a 4-2 victory for KT was oppressive. In hindsight, it's clear that Sun's game against Stats was one of the most important of the entire series.

The match itself was a tense one; Sun's three-gate pressure delayed Stats' initial DT and gave him the time to get out an observer. Sun followed up by mining out Stat's back-minerals and counterattacking into the main, completely circumventing the cannons at Stats' natural (so important for defence following a DT opening). In a matchup so often decided by a combination of build-order and decision-making, Sun outplayed one of the best Protoss players in Proleague, putting his team in the lead going into the final regular game of the series.

(Z)HoeJJa
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Remarkably for a player with virtually no individual league pedigree HoeJJa excels on the big stage, and there are few stages bigger than the one upon which he faced BeSt in game six. Although HoeJJa was undefeated in the playoffs coming into his finals game, he had yet to be tested in what has, in the past, been his strongest match-up.

HoeJJa looked utterly assured as he defeated this season's PvZ win leader. He took the opportunity given to him by BeSt to build up an enormous economy, while easily defending BeSt's attempts at harass, building up to a point where he was able to crush the SKT Protoss. HoeJJa also displayed no small amount of swagger, utilising plague and ensnare to further extend an already established lead.

Although HoeJJa's play was superlative, his opponent provided little in the way of solid resistance and his eventual victory had the perfunctory feel of formality.

(Z)Action
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Action's confidence in ZvZ may have taken a bit of a knock following his loss to Shine in the semi-final, and early on in his match against n.Die_soO things looked dire for the KT Zerg. However, having fallen behind early, Action made a desperate zergling counter, forcing the game into an elimination race. From there, the game remained on a knife edge, but, having kept his natural hatchery, Action was able to draw soO around the map until he was able to re-establish himself.

Through a combination of his own good decision making and a grave error by his opponent, Action rescued set three and, with it, KT's chances of winning the final.

(P)Wooki
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Most impressive about Wooki in his game against Bisu was the obvious diligence of his preparation, through which he was able to establish an unexpected lead in the early game. The unorthodox positioning of his first gateway, which so confused Bisu in the opening stages of the game, later turned out to be a perfect block on the back ledge, proving crucial in his defence against Bisu's DTs. The elegance of this play wasn't enough to give Wooki a victory, but was the kind of thing that should put a smile on the face of any Brood War fan, regardless of who they're cheering for.

(Z)Crazy-Hydra
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Against Ssak, Crazy-Hydra was facing a player who had clearly been prepared by SKT as a TvZ sniper. CrazyHydra looked to be in complete control after easily defending his third from Ssak's +1 bio timing, but Ssak's mech-switch came earlier than Crazy-Hydra was able to deal with and, as the game continued, it became an increasingly scrappy affair. Ultimately, Crazy-Hydra's counter attacks did so much damage to Ssak that he was able to claim what was probably the least convincing win of any player in the final. Crazy-Hydra's ZvT clearly isn't on par with his other two match-ups, but in the end his performance was sufficient.

(T)Ssak
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Having played only two games this season, Ssak's performance against Crazy-Hydra was clearly affected by nerves. His +1 five-rax push was hugely delayed by indecision just as he should have been moving out, putting him in a bad position early on. However, Ssak's mech-switch succeeded in denying Crazy-Hydra's fourth and allowed him to establish a contain at the KT Zerg's natural ridge.

As the game went on Crazy-Hydra's multi-pronged attacks and harrass slowly overwhelmed Ssak, but for a decent portion of the game he was competing toe-to-toe with one of the best Zergs in Proleague. SKT certainly wasn't relying on a victory from Ssak to take the series and overall his performance was solid considering his lack of recent broadcast experience.

(P)BeSt
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In his game against HoeJJa, BeSt displayed almost none of the qualities that led to him usurping Bisu as SKT's main PvZ player in Proleague this season. His corsairs failed to do any significant damage to HoeJJa at any point in the game, and his harassment was so feeble it was effectively non-existent. While much of BeSt's play throughout his career has been defined by his macro, this was a game in which he seemed to ignore all other aspects of play.

Even then, BeSt found himself with nowhere near enough of the correct units in anything like the right quantities to assert himself at any stage of the game. Although his loss ultimately had no effect on the result of the series, this was truly a game to forget for BeSt and one where he looked utterly outmatched.

(Z)n.Die_soO
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soO's game came at a time when a win for SKT was more of a luxury than a necessity, as evidenced by his comments in the winner's interview. Though he did well to establish air control and gained a lead early on, the terms of the game that unfolded thereafter were dictated by Action. As can so often happen in ZvZ, soO was undone by one poor decision, and perhaps a small amount of complacency, as Action's zergling counter-attack destroyed his main and forced the game into an elimination race. From there, Action used the threat of his mutalisks to lead soO on a wild goose chase. It was all soO could do to look on, powerless to prevent Action from re-establishing a base at his natural. ZvZ can be cruel sometimes, but in the end soO had no one but himself to blame.

(P)Stats
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Stats' PvP has been an incredibly important weapon in the KT arsenal this season, but against Sun he failed to impress. The fact that Stats had to balance his practice for the final with that of the OSL preliminaries on the previous weekend appeared to play a role in the outcome of this game. That said, Stats' failure to anticipate Sun's push through the backdoor minerals is confusing, especially considering the number of games he has played on Outlier this season. Whether Stats' reaction (or lack thereof) was a result of a lack of preparation or the sheer ingenuity of Sun's build is unclear. One thing that is clear, however, is that Stats was the overwhelming favourite going into this game and his failure cost KT dearly.

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Attempting to consider Flash's performance in the context of those of his peers seems foolish. This is a player for whom the term 'bonjwa' seems inappropriate, simply insufficient. The steady rise in the quality of his performance over the course of his career has established a standard against which no other progamer can ever be judged. In this season's Proleague final, even Flash himself wasn't able to measure up.

Flash's games in the final were not without quality; his calculated decision to doom drop Fantasy's main, his marine control when defending Bisu's zealots, and his almost game ending biomech push. These moments of excellence are what we have come to expect from Flash. They are the kind of moments that have contributed to that continuously rising level and were part of two uniquely thrilling games.

In a season in which Flash's name had come to be synonymous with victory, he lost his two most important games. At some point, Flash became so good that how he won almost ceased to be a factor, the quality of his victories was peripheral to the quanitity. And so, victories are how he must be judged. Flash is so good that, today, I get to call him bad.

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Have you ever had any event in your life that just seemed to complete you? Be it getting into your desired college, getting that dream job of yours, or just fulfilling whatever you’ve always wanted.

For me, having an article in this news post would mean mine’s a no-brainer. Being a SK Telecom T1 fan since its old days of Orion, the wait of 10 years to catch them in their billionth finals was such a long and cruel one. Living overseas and schedules that didn’t match meant that for the last 10 years, all I could do was support my favourite team from behind the monitor. But this year, this time, it was different. I was there, just metres away from my idols, cheering my heart out and pouring my soul into each chant, each shout.

Having managed to get tickets specially prepared by KeSPA for us, TeamLiquid (once again, thank you KeSPA), we managed to get hold of a section of seats smack in the center of the whole seating area at Jamsil Students’ Indoor Gymnasium. It afforded us a perfect view of the entire stadium, while being slightly towards the SKT side (yes, I specially requested that ). The bunch of us nerds, who gathered from all across the world, waited an hour from 6 o' clock, while the organisers did last minute checks and preparations. Meanwhile, there was a battle between the SKT and KT fans, as each tried to out cheer and out shout each other. Needless to say, I joined in. The other team’s fans (I called them “KT Scum” - heh) only cheered at the sight of Flash. Pfft, that’s no way to cheer for a team! The excitement and anticipation grew in the arena grew as each side took turns to bring out the fanboy and fangirl-ism in all of us by introducing pre-coordinated moves and cheers that catered to each of the players. I was already getting the nerd chills, and the other thousands of other Brood War fans could feel it too.

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As the games drew nearer, the caster Jeon Yong Jun told the crowd to keep silent when the broadcast went live. He asked us to wait, and at the right moment, create a roar loud enough “to make those who didn’t come to the venue regret it so much.” As he shouted “Jamsil Students’ Indoor Gynasium!!!”, we roared. Everyone from different backgrounds, from different countries, all united together for the love of Brood War. It was an amazing sound.

While the broadcast went on a commercial break, the self-proclaimed Bisu’s #1 fan Park Wan Gyu (the long-haired rocker dude who performed during Jin Air OSL finals, if you’ve forgotten who he is) was named by KeSPA as the promoter and the face of ESPORTS in Korea. After a short ceremony, he was asked to predict the score, and he sheepishly said “4-3”, but didn’t say in favour whom. Who knew that he would be spot on?

Slowly, the time for the first game drew closer. Fans from both sides were being led on by their fanclub reps (or so I am guessing), who were going all out with mics, loudspeakers, drums, even cheerleaders (with very nice legs, I may add), and were getting louder by the minute. Unusually, my palms were sweating a lot. Was I nervous? Excited? Afraid? Even now, I don’t know, but one thing was for sure, it was something that could be experienced only there and then.

Finally, after an hour’s worth of waiting, the games were set to go. I won’t go into details about the games, but the first two sets made me jump up and down in my seat like a little fangirl, as T1 took two crucial wins. Bisu won his game and Fantasy won against god. I was ecstatic. T1 fans were going wild, chanting Bisu and Fantasy’s names at the end of each of their games. KT fans were dead silent. I even turned to the KT fan seating beside me (Zeehar, I’m looking at you!) and mocked him at Flash’s loss and T1’s early 2-0 lead.

After that, it was just an emotional rollercoaster ride, with T1 Zergs frustrating me no end despite how much faith I put in them. Then, our slumping rookie Protoss stepped it up for the team while Best, who put forth an amazing PvZ record this whole season, went on to a 3 game losing streak in the Finals thanks to Hoejja, who actually delivered a tailor made, near perfect build that caught him off guard.

KT managed to bring it to the ace match, and everyone was excited about the picks. But I was nervous, for I feared a repeat of the last two years. Will it be Bisu again, or will it be Fantasy? Or was it going to be BeSt who could try to redeem himself once again? Who will KT field? Their best Protoss player? One of the KT Zergs, who managed to bring them this far? Or would it be the Ultimate Weapon himself?

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Right after the replay analysis, the ace players were revealed, and it was the matchup everyone was waiting for - Bisu vs Flash. I didn’t think my heart could take it anymore. My knees were already getting weak, but I pulled myself together. I couldn't stop now. I had to watch to the very end. All I could do was wave my huge styrofoam cheerful and pray.

I can’t put into words how I felt through the ace match, but all I know was that I was grasping tightly onto that cheerful, eyes glued to the huge screen, praying inside that Bisu and T1 would win. A little trivia, by the way - whenever I went live to watch Bisu play for T1 in Proleague, Bisu lost. This made me even more worried for this ace match but still, I just watched and prayed.

The game didn’t disappoint. Bisu won as predicted by his #2 fan (I still think the Bisu girl is #1, or maybe Kiett, I dunno), T1 won, KTears were shed, God was dethroned and balance was restored to the universe. But most importantly, my decade long dream of watching T1 win in the only and most prestigious Brood War team league’s grand finals had been fulfilled. For fifteen minutes or so after the end of the ace match, as the spectators slowly left the stadium, I stayed behind to watch the T1 players make speeches and celebrate their victory. Although I was just another unknown fan to the team, I still felt one with them and enjoyed celebrating our win together. We had triumphed against our eternal rivals.

Even if it was for a moment, I was the happiest fanboy alive.

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And so this brings Team Liquid's coverage of Season One of the SK Planet Proleague to a close. We hope you guys enjoyed coming along on this sometimes bumpy ride with us as much as we did. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the writeup this season.

Firstly a big thanks to the SPL team consisting of riptide, HawaiianPig, Kiante, Mustaju, SirJolt, 2Pacalypse-, Carnivorous Sheep, Simplistik, Hyde, Kiett. They helped out consistently all throughout the season without fail.

Thanks to the artists and graphic designers including HawaiianPig, Kiett, Fishuu, Hyde, Pathy, Meko, AlteredClone and moopie.

Finally thank you to all the guest writers who took the time to help out. These were Harem, Xxio, Mrhoon, thedeadhaji, l10f, Sayle, Contagion, kjwcj, Bloodsh0t, Garrl, Nikon, Biff the Understudy, LasTLiE, VGhost, Shader, okum, Jonvvv, konadora and Antoine.

Art by fishuu
This edition of the SK Planet Proleague news write-up was brought to you by the amazingly talented SPL Writing Team consisting of riptide, HawaiianPig, Kiante, Mustaju, SirJolt, 2Pacalypse-, Carnivorous Sheep, Simplistik, Hyde, Kiett. Special thanks to guest writers kjwcj and konadora for their contributions. Have a great week!

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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
April 16 2012 05:36 GMT
#2
kiante you fail i am seeing all codes instead of pictures....
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 16 2012 05:37 GMT
#3
That was definitely Kiante's fault. Blame him.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 16 2012 05:38 GMT
#4
On April 16 2012 14:36 Sawamura wrote:
kiante you fail i am seeing all codes instead of pictures....

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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 16 2012 05:43 GMT
#5
On April 16 2012 14:38 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 14:36 Sawamura wrote:
kiante you fail i am seeing all codes instead of pictures....

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god I love these circled letters so much
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 05:45:57
April 16 2012 05:44 GMT
#6
skt is best kt

spl team is best news team

bw is best esport


On April 16 2012 14:43 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 14:38 Kiante wrote:
On April 16 2012 14:36 Sawamura wrote:
kiante you fail i am seeing all codes instead of pictures....

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god I love these circled letters so much

I drew those circles. Yeah. Me. Fuck the manga, the circles are my true masterpieces.
Writer:o
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
April 16 2012 05:44 GMT
#7
On April 16 2012 14:38 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 14:36 Sawamura wrote:
kiante you fail i am seeing all codes instead of pictures....

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lol
Holy starcraft, this writeup is epic.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
April 16 2012 05:45 GMT
#8
nice writeup
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
April 16 2012 05:46 GMT
#9
omg the comic... did the ending get cut off? seems kinda abrupt :o but epic nonetheless
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Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
April 16 2012 05:48 GMT
#10
Epic pictures =)
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 05:51:26
April 16 2012 05:50 GMT
#11
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Agreed.


Having managed to get tickets specially prepared by KeSPA for us, TeamLiquid (once again, thank you KeSPA),


Woah, this is great! WOAH!!!!!!
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 16 2012 05:50 GMT
#12
haha flash gets an F
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#13
amazing writeup as usual, and flash with and f made me laugh
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
April 16 2012 05:54 GMT
#14
LOL.
Greate writeup
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
April 16 2012 05:54 GMT
#15
F is for Flash! I liked the rundown and pic spam especially. Good recap folks! SKT1 is still number 1!
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 16 2012 05:55 GMT
#16
Darn, why did Bisu have to survive? =(
PheNOM_
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 05:59:12
April 16 2012 05:58 GMT
#17
Bisu such a babe :D

Kiante and Kiett thanks for making the finals an enjoyable experience, your commentary is entertaining <3

edit: a word
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184006
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
April 16 2012 06:01 GMT
#18
Beautiful writeup.

BW 4 Life
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66156 Posts
April 16 2012 06:05 GMT
#19
On April 16 2012 14:44 Kiett wrote:
skt is best kt

spl team is best news team

bw is best esport

POGGERS
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 16 2012 06:07 GMT
#20
On April 16 2012 14:58 PheNOM_ wrote:
Bisu such a babe :D

Kiante and Kiett thanks for making the finals an enjoyable experience, your commentary is entertaining <3

edit: a word

i didn't commentate the finals, it was sayle + kiett
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 06:11:08
April 16 2012 06:08 GMT
#21
Great write-up.

Makes me realize how basic is my English when I compare your battle reports to mine

Anyway, it all ended well and that's the most important.

If you're interested in a longer and more personal view of the live experience I wrote a blog.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=329368
(shameless plug, my write up was posted earlier )
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dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
April 16 2012 06:08 GMT
#22
Eh... I really dont like how flash was given an F :{. my bias is showing though
Gogo bisu
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LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
April 16 2012 06:08 GMT
#23
YAY SKT :D
freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
April 16 2012 06:09 GMT
#24
hoorayyy!!! bisu happy, kiett happy, i happy, skt fanboys all happy!
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
April 16 2012 06:09 GMT
#25
Still so sad for flash T_T
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 16 2012 06:11 GMT
#26
On April 16 2012 15:08 endy wrote:
Great write-up.

Makes me realize how basic is my English when I compare your battle reports to mine

Anyway, it all ended well and that's the most important.

your blog was beast man

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 16 2012 06:11 GMT
#27
Finally definately worth the wait.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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cybertopo
Profile Joined February 2010
Spain525 Posts
April 16 2012 06:17 GMT
#28
F for Flash
Hurr Durr
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 16 2012 06:19 GMT
#29
On April 16 2012 15:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Finally definately worth the wait.

was expecting anger at skt bias. very surprised. decent comment.

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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 16 2012 06:19 GMT
#30
T1 rejoice!
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
April 16 2012 06:20 GMT
#31
Yes!!! Thank you guys so much for all y'all did throughout the season... Here's to a season 2!!!!
BW FOREVER!!!!!
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NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
April 16 2012 06:21 GMT
#32
I loved this article!
Thank you for one of the best articles I have ever read! I even felt the nerd chills running down my spine when reading this!

THANK YOU!
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
April 16 2012 06:25 GMT
#33
AWWW YEAH SKT
(´・ω・`)
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
April 16 2012 06:25 GMT
#34
Happy to see BIsu is still owning !
RoninShogun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
April 16 2012 06:26 GMT
#35
What a bro write up, laying it all on the line
Artosis: Yeah I was gonna probe rush but someone did that yesterday
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 06:28:29
April 16 2012 06:27 GMT
#36
On April 16 2012 15:19 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Finally definately worth the wait.

was expecting anger at skt bias. very surprised. decent comment.

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oh I am angry, no point in showing it.

instead I'll just curse you by saying STX will win next season lol.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
April 16 2012 06:27 GMT
#37
So many chills reading that section by Riptide, very good job there.

Also I want to confirm that the FvF was very very good, absolutely go watch it if you havent already.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 16 2012 06:28 GMT
#38
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When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 06:29:16
April 16 2012 06:28 GMT
#39
On April 16 2012 15:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:19 Kiante wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Finally definately worth the wait.

was expecting anger at skt bias. very surprised. decent comment.

[image loading]


oh I am angry, no point in showing it.

not so decent comment

[image loading]
POGGERS
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 16 2012 06:28 GMT
#40
f is for flash rofl.

i cried when bisu won the ace match.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 16 2012 06:29 GMT
#41
Amazing writeup team. BW4LYF!
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
April 16 2012 06:29 GMT
#42
So much T1 bias lol. But hey, it's been a long time coming. Grats on the victory!
SUNSFANNED
Transparent
Profile Joined June 2011
42 Posts
April 16 2012 06:29 GMT
#43
A great write up and a great SPL final. SKT1 fighting! :D
You can never be too precise!
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
April 16 2012 06:30 GMT
#44
Can you guys give links to the encircled letters? the Big ones I mean.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 16 2012 06:30 GMT
#45
On April 16 2012 15:28 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:19 Kiante wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Finally definately worth the wait.

was expecting anger at skt bias. very surprised. decent comment.

[image loading]


oh I am angry, no point in showing it.

not so decent comment

[image loading]


I wonder how many Fs I can rack up in this newspost.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
April 16 2012 06:31 GMT
#46
F for Flash

(feels so goood)
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 16 2012 06:31 GMT
#47
On April 16 2012 15:29 Transparent wrote:
A great write up and a great SPL final. SKT1 fighting! :D


Sorry, I don't wanna sound like a T1 nazi, but I'm a T1 nazi.
The full team name is SKT T1, SKT being the sponsor, and T1 being the team name. I don't know why people always merge it into SKT1.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 16 2012 06:33 GMT
#48
On April 16 2012 15:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:28 konadora wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:19 Kiante wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Finally definately worth the wait.

was expecting anger at skt bias. very surprised. decent comment.

[image loading]


oh I am angry, no point in showing it.

not so decent comment

[image loading]


I wonder how many Fs I can rack up in this newspost.


I wanted to post an S to grade the write up, but the largeS.png is nowhere to be found.
ॐ
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
April 16 2012 06:33 GMT
#49
On April 16 2012 15:31 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:29 Transparent wrote:
A great write up and a great SPL final. SKT1 fighting! :D


Sorry, I don't wanna sound like a T1 nazi, but I'm a T1 nazi.
The full team name is SKT T1, SKT being the sponsor, and T1 being the team name. I don't know why people always merge it into SKT1.


Yeah, funny thinking about that. It's either I type it only SKT or T1, regarding the latter, I haven't seen it typed like that since I left as a frequent from gg.net
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 06:34:47
April 16 2012 06:34 GMT
#50
Such an excellent write up. Well done. Page 2 has a lot of T1 fans...
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 16 2012 06:35 GMT
#51
On April 16 2012 15:33 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:28 konadora wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:19 Kiante wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Finally definately worth the wait.

was expecting anger at skt bias. very surprised. decent comment.

[image loading]


oh I am angry, no point in showing it.

not so decent comment

[image loading]


I wonder how many Fs I can rack up in this newspost.


I wanted to post an S to grade the write up, but the largeS.png is nowhere to be found.


oh no, I meant how many of my posts would get an F everytime I post in the thread lol, SKT bias aside this is a damn good news post.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 06:36:48
April 16 2012 06:36 GMT
#52
omg the comic~!
teh comic!!!
so epic!
insane writeup!

omg, **dies.
moo...for DRG
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
April 16 2012 06:37 GMT
#53
Sick write up, T1 FOR LIFE!!!

WWWOOOOOOOOOOOO
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 06:39:11
April 16 2012 06:38 GMT
#54
Bisu taking all the spotlight, poor Fanta FvF was the best!
Stork[gm]
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
April 16 2012 06:43 GMT
#55
I literally had tears in my eyes yelling at 7 in the morning. Sick sick sick finals.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 16 2012 06:45 GMT
#56
Flash loses to Bisu on a map no terran has ever won on and gets an F while Bisu gets S+. How disingenuous.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
April 16 2012 06:46 GMT
#57
Stopped reading when Flash got a "F"

Guy has stepped up to the plate so many times and destroyed SKT. In individuals and PLs. He had a bad night and SKT deserves to feel happy but please.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 16 2012 06:47 GMT
#58
F is a bit harsh. I don't think there's even a F rank on iccup...
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
April 16 2012 06:48 GMT
#59
On April 16 2012 15:45 red4ce wrote:
Flash loses to Bisu on a map no terran has ever won on and gets an F while Bisu gets S+. How disingenuous.


And here we go..
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
April 16 2012 06:49 GMT
#60
On April 16 2012 15:45 red4ce wrote:
Flash loses to Bisu on a map no terran has ever won on and gets an F while Bisu gets S+. How disingenuous.

[image loading]

[image loading]

Nice try, come again.

[image loading]
Writer:o
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
April 16 2012 06:49 GMT
#61
KTears~
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 16 2012 06:49 GMT
#62
On April 16 2012 15:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:33 endy wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:28 konadora wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:19 Kiante wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Finally definately worth the wait.

was expecting anger at skt bias. very surprised. decent comment.

[image loading]


oh I am angry, no point in showing it.

not so decent comment

[image loading]


I wonder how many Fs I can rack up in this newspost.


I wanted to post an S to grade the write up, but the largeS.png is nowhere to be found.


oh no, I meant how many of my posts would get an F everytime I post in the thread lol, SKT bias aside this is a damn good news post.


Yeah, it does deserve an S.

On a side note, I'm currently uploading my folder of HD pictures of the event and will add it to my blog. If anyone wants
photos in original size for let's say a wallpaper of victorious SKT, PM me
ॐ
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
April 16 2012 06:52 GMT
#63
go on, keep rubbing it in





bastards
Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
April 16 2012 06:53 GMT
#64
In a living room with about 10 other people (most if not all SKT T1 fans) watching that Ace match.

Best moment of BW for me. If it HAS to go, what a way to go.

On April 16 2012 15:49 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:45 red4ce wrote:
Flash loses to Bisu on a map no terran has ever won on and gets an F while Bisu gets S+. How disingenuous.

[image loading]

[image loading]

Nice try, come again.

[image loading]


Kiett throwing down the knowledge smackdown
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 16 2012 06:55 GMT
#65
On April 16 2012 15:49 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:45 red4ce wrote:
Flash loses to Bisu on a map no terran has ever won on and gets an F while Bisu gets S+. How disingenuous.

[image loading]

[image loading]

Nice try, come again.

[image loading]


Yes, it would have been nice if game 7 were on Chain Reaction.
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
April 16 2012 07:00 GMT
#66
On April 16 2012 15:55 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:49 Kiett wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:45 red4ce wrote:
Flash loses to Bisu on a map no terran has ever won on and gets an F while Bisu gets S+. How disingenuous.

[image loading]

[image loading]

Nice try, come again.

[image loading]


Yes, it would have been nice if game 7 were on Chain Reaction.


What's the difference?
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
April 16 2012 07:05 GMT
#67
On April 16 2012 15:46 Vasoline73 wrote:
Stopped reading when Flash got a "F"

Guy has stepped up to the plate so many times and destroyed SKT. In individuals and PLs. He had a bad night and SKT deserves to feel happy but please.


I think you've missed the point. The fact that Flash has "stepped up to the plate so many times" makes his losses in this final more significant, not less. While the games themselves were obviously not terrible performances in isolation, this final represents one of the greatest failures of his career to date.

Oh and I'm not an SKT fan.
Writer
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 16 2012 07:07 GMT
#68
On April 16 2012 15:49 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:33 endy wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:28 konadora wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:19 Kiante wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Finally definately worth the wait.

was expecting anger at skt bias. very surprised. decent comment.

[image loading]


oh I am angry, no point in showing it.

not so decent comment

[image loading]


I wonder how many Fs I can rack up in this newspost.


I wanted to post an S to grade the write up, but the largeS.png is nowhere to be found.


oh no, I meant how many of my posts would get an F everytime I post in the thread lol, SKT bias aside this is a damn good news post.


Yeah, it does deserve an S.

On a side note, I'm currently uploading my folder of HD pictures of the event and will add it to my blog. If anyone wants
photos in original size for let's say a wallpaper of victorious SKT, PM me

hyde only converted a few of the rankings to transparent png's. rest are jpg with the red background
Writer
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 07:09:27
April 16 2012 07:07 GMT
#69
The timings of this thread and the sudden bump of this thread seems appropriate for some KT fans but fear not fellow men, Violet will destroy everyone in Season 2 even before he's done recovering. KT will be back. SKT won't win twice in a row.

WP SKT.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
April 16 2012 07:08 GMT
#70
I guess as a career failure. But typically when it's good games it's winner S+ loser S or some such. But 2 critical losses is pretty monumental. I'd be uncomfortable giving him an F, but whatever. What matters is Bisu and Fantasy beat him
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 07:11:16
April 16 2012 07:10 GMT
#71
On April 16 2012 15:55 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:49 Kiett wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:45 red4ce wrote:
Flash loses to Bisu on a map no terran has ever won on and gets an F while Bisu gets S+. How disingenuous.

[image loading]

[image loading]

Nice try, come again.

[image loading]


Yes, it would have been nice if game 7 were on Chain Reaction.

lol don't even try to use that as an excuse. There were absolutely no changes made to Chain Reaction that would have affected that game. Ground directly outside of the nat buildable? I don't believe either player built anything there. High ground near the nat is droppable? Don't recall either playing dropping anything there. It was the same map.

Writer:o
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
April 16 2012 07:10 GMT
#72
On April 16 2012 15:55 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:49 Kiett wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:45 red4ce wrote:
Flash loses to Bisu on a map no terran has ever won on and gets an F while Bisu gets S+. How disingenuous.

[image loading]

[image loading]

Nice try, come again.

[image loading]


Yes, it would have been nice if game 7 were on Chain Reaction.



lol because somehow Original chain reaction was sooo terran favored and Neo chain reaction isn't. Just admit you got superslammed by Kiett
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 16 2012 07:14 GMT
#73
I give this writeup an S+ for objectivity.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
April 16 2012 07:15 GMT
#74
On April 16 2012 16:08 Falling wrote:
I guess as a career failure. But typically when it's good games it's winner S+ loser S or some such.


I don't think the concept of a 'valiant loss' applies to a player like Flash. He's victory embodied, if he doesn't win, he's nothing.
Writer
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
April 16 2012 07:17 GMT
#75
I watched this and the ACE match had me on the edge of my seat. Good stuff!!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
April 16 2012 07:17 GMT
#76
On April 16 2012 15:46 Vasoline73 wrote:
Stopped reading when Flash got a "F"

Guy has stepped up to the plate so many times and destroyed SKT. In individuals and PLs. He had a bad night and SKT deserves to feel happy but please.


These players were rated on their performance during the Finals. If you mean that the rating is wrong, try reading how the rating was justified.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
khellian
Profile Joined February 2010
Korea (South)922 Posts
April 16 2012 07:22 GMT
#77
Awsome writeup, thanks!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37017 Posts
April 16 2012 07:23 GMT
#78
Great f*ing write up damn........[image loading]
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 16 2012 07:23 GMT
#79
Oh my god, can't believe its probably ending. Those letter rankings are awesome lol
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
April 16 2012 07:23 GMT
#80
wow, congratz!
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
RunningInSquares
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States215 Posts
April 16 2012 07:33 GMT
#81
I must have read that wrong because it sounds like it was said that even though Flash had a huge win streak, maintains a very high win percentage, has multiple StarLeague AND ProLeague titles, he shouldn't be called a bonjwa. Even bonjwas can have a bad day now and then.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 07:43:21
April 16 2012 07:39 GMT
#82
On April 16 2012 15:31 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:29 Transparent wrote:
A great write up and a great SPL final. SKT1 fighting! :D


Sorry, I don't wanna sound like a T1 nazi, but I'm a T1 nazi.
The full team name is SKT T1, SKT being the sponsor, and T1 being the team name. I don't know why people always merge it into SKT1.

[image loading]

I had to go make this png again but this comment deserves an S+ because too many people keep saying SKT1, many of which are SKT fans :/ I was contemplating putting it in my sig.
Either say the full name, or SKT, or T1, not SKT1.

On April 16 2012 15:52 ChriS-X wrote:
go on, keep rubbing it in





bastards

[image loading]
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
April 16 2012 07:41 GMT
#83
Awesome writeup as allways makes me enjoy it more Bw is amazing not even the word amazing can describe it
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
April 16 2012 07:44 GMT
#84
Thanks for the writeup.

I think the reasoning behind the F rating wasn't quality of play (because I thought he played awesomely), it was that these were really fucking important games and he only needed to win one of them to seal the deal - instead he dropped them both despite his teammates pulling through

It was sorta like how one year (2009) it was KT vs STX with playoffs on the line. Flash had 2 chances to close it out - but didn't build turrets vs Calm's 2 hatch lurker and didn't build turrets vs Kal's DTs and KT lost their chances at playoffs as a result. Lots of pissed Flash fans that day

I thought Flash played good this time though (while on the day I'm referring to, Flash decided to just cut corners and looked retarded as a result). So maybe I just don't really like the rating criteria.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 16 2012 07:47 GMT
#85
Delicious read.
▲ ▲ ▲
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 16 2012 07:52 GMT
#86
YESS

i had been waiting for this for over a week. did not dissapoint. THANK YOU ALL!
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
April 16 2012 07:54 GMT
#87
Thanks for the amazing writeup!
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
April 16 2012 07:57 GMT
#88
Kiett is definitely [image loading]

That manga kinda reminded me of the fight at the end of Episode 1, so Flash = Darth Maul, Bisu dies, and Fanta is Obi-wan. Does that make BoxeR Yoda? And who's the annoying little kid who's going to turn to the Dark Side?
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 16 2012 07:59 GMT
#89
well theres nothing to be ashamed of if the empire falls to the like of Flash :p
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 16 2012 08:05 GMT
#90
This writeup definitely deserves an

[image loading]


Well done everyone! We've been through a wild ride, and an epic finals was the culmination of everything. Thank you everyone for your hard work, it was an excellent read. <3
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 16 2012 08:06 GMT
#91
On April 16 2012 16:39 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 15:31 endy wrote:
On April 16 2012 15:29 Transparent wrote:
A great write up and a great SPL final. SKT1 fighting! :D


Sorry, I don't wanna sound like a T1 nazi, but I'm a T1 nazi.
The full team name is SKT T1, SKT being the sponsor, and T1 being the team name. I don't know why people always merge it into SKT1.

[image loading]

I had to go make this png again but this comment deserves an S+ because too many people keep saying SKT1, many of which are SKT fans :/ I was contemplating putting it in my sig.
Either say the full name, or SKT, or T1, not SKT1.


There was an excellent blog about it :
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=120007

But baller came, trolled everyone, and won the thread

Obviously, baller's trolling skills are
[image loading]
ॐ
Starburst
Profile Joined November 2011
United States108 Posts
April 16 2012 08:06 GMT
#92
Definitely got nerd chills just reading that. Great write-up guys. While being an SKT fan has always been great, I've never felt so proud of my team.
VonDarkmore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia192 Posts
April 16 2012 08:07 GMT
#93

Watching it live had such a majestic feeling, every game applied more suspense. When Bisu and Flash played in the ace much I think the rate of oxygen Inspiration, and exhalation decreased to a point that it may have been detectable around the world

Thank you for the fantastic write up, the whole team always does a great job. I hope BW continues, otherwise there will be too many voids in TL BW hearts.

Thank you kindly Sayle and kiett for a great commentary as well, please do continue until the last day of BW!
Congratulations SKT! BISU!
One who understands much displays a greater simplicity of character than one who understands little
Chemist391
Profile Joined October 2010
United States366 Posts
April 16 2012 08:20 GMT
#94
Thank you so much for the continued effort, TL.

It was truly something special to watch Bisu take the ace match over Flash. SKT T1 fighting!

+ Show Spoiler +
It's been emotional.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
April 16 2012 08:20 GMT
#95
On April 16 2012 16:57 Mobius_1 wrote:
Kiett is definitely [image loading]

That manga kinda reminded me of the fight at the end of Episode 1, so Flash = Darth Maul, Bisu dies, and Fanta is Obi-wan. Does that make BoxeR Yoda? And who's the annoying little kid who's going to turn to the Dark Side?

Aww, thanks :3

Your comment is
[image loading]
Writer:o
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
April 16 2012 08:25 GMT
#96
Great writeup <3
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
April 16 2012 08:40 GMT
#97
A very complete writeup there, certainly befitting of the finals. Great stuff.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 16 2012 08:44 GMT
#98
Amazing write uppppp <3
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 16 2012 08:47 GMT
#99
Victory at last! I stayed up 32 hours to watch the finals and it was totally worth it!

Thank you everyone who contributes to the amazing writeups.

I give this article a

[image loading]



( The conclusion of the manga did not disappoint by the way! 11/10! )
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 09:12:54
April 16 2012 09:12 GMT
#100
Amazing write-up of an amazing final of an amazing season ! SKT HWAITING
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
tiaz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden231 Posts
April 16 2012 09:21 GMT
#101
On April 16 2012 14:44 Kiett wrote:
skt is best kt

spl team is best news team

bw is best esport


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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9497 Posts
April 16 2012 09:29 GMT
#102
Such an awesome writeup you guys!

Special commendation must go to Kiett. Even though at times it was arduous, she persevered and made that manga as awesome as it is. God knows how many Dota games were missed, but in the end it was all worth it!

bw4lyfe~
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INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
April 16 2012 09:30 GMT
#103
Awesome write up. But really...no more "haters gonna hate". That's like using UMADBRO? as a caption. In all seriousness though, I still can't believe that Flash lost both of those games...it was almost surreal watching that happen...seeing him in the booth after getting beat by Bisu was really sad to see. Flash could have the last laugh though if he manages to snag a 7th starleague title, while Bisu will be stuck at home watching(getting hydra busted in prelims? REALLY? Before possibly the last OSL? REALLY? Bisu Bisu Bisu.....)
Pink Floyd's music is like a beautiful girl walking down the street who won't talk to you.
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
April 16 2012 10:13 GMT
#104
On April 16 2012 14:44 Kiett wrote:
skt is best kt

spl team is best news team

bw is best esport

Truth!

And what an awesome article to such an awesome event!
BSOD
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
April 16 2012 10:14 GMT
#105
skt is best kt what's that supposed to mean?

I have to say I can't remember much besides the beautiful letters in circles
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Attican
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark531 Posts
April 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#106
Awesome, so glad I got to watch. I actually woke up for no particular reason almost just as it started after only 4 hours of sleep. Luckily I remembered what was going on and didn't just go back to sleep.
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
April 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#107
Man could not ask for a better finals.
Most epic rivalry in BW.
All Matchups played.
4:3 with ACE MATCH with FLASH and BISU.
Pretty awesome games throughout too.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
April 16 2012 10:28 GMT
#108
I am so overwhelmed by this writeupI don't know what to write...
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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1685 Posts
April 16 2012 10:35 GMT
#109
More BW please, thanks Kespa...

Fantastic writeup for a fantastic final. One of the all-time most exciting.
EleGant[AoV]
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
April 16 2012 10:44 GMT
#110
awesome read! thx.
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#111
Such an epic series. What a way to go out, BW.
Hello
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 16 2012 10:54 GMT
#112
This is so awesome. <3
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 16 2012 10:55 GMT
#113
Not enough T1 tags on this page. Must post!

SKT STILL BEST KT YEEEEAAAAAHHHH~
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
googolplex
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States280 Posts
April 16 2012 10:55 GMT
#114
I love Flash genius to death, but 2pacalypse's article on the Bisu vs. Flash is so lacking and so deceiving that readers who haven't seen the games think it was too simple. For example, Bisu didn't make just zealots because he lost core. Core was already on the way, and the speedlot wave transition was part of the plan, if you look at the game in its totality. There were a few other significant details that the article missed that made it unreflective of the epicness of the Ace match.

Still, I love the fact the if indeed that if going to be the last BW PL game, it run with the show!
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
April 16 2012 10:55 GMT
#115
On April 16 2012 14:44 Kiett wrote:
skt is best kt

spl team is best news team

bw is best esport


Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 14:43 ]343[ wrote:
On April 16 2012 14:38 Kiante wrote:
On April 16 2012 14:36 Sawamura wrote:
kiante you fail i am seeing all codes instead of pictures....

[image loading]


god I love these circled letters so much

I drew those circles. Yeah. Me. Fuck the manga, the circles are my true masterpieces.


Hahahah! Comment of the day.

Glad to see SKT win. Props to everybody on the writing staff. Sad to see so many references to the 'end' of BW pl tho ;;
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
gavstrikk
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark16 Posts
April 16 2012 10:57 GMT
#116
I miss some more analysis of the ace match. I have a couple of questions regarding Flash's decisions:

1. Why did he not take the gas right after he destroyed Bisu's first assimilator? Was this a mistake, or didn't he mind that Bisu build another assimilator?

2. How can a player of Flash's caliber not realize the consequences of destroying a cybernetics core, that is no more dragoons for Bisu. I can't understand why he would not build some vultures right after destroying the core, since all Bisu could build now was zealots.

I hope someone here will try to enlighten my regarding these questions.
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
April 16 2012 10:59 GMT
#117
Great writeup! Thanks!! Also the banner picture is quite amazing haha the SKT coach :D:D
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
April 16 2012 11:04 GMT
#118
On April 16 2012 18:30 INTOtheVOID wrote:
Awesome write up. But really...no more "haters gonna hate". That's like using UMADBRO? as a caption. In all seriousness though, I still can't believe that Flash lost both of those games...it was almost surreal watching that happen...seeing him in the booth after getting beat by Bisu was really sad to see. Flash could have the last laugh though if he manages to snag a 7th starleague title, while Bisu will be stuck at home watching(getting hydra busted in prelims? REALLY? Before possibly the last OSL? REALLY? Bisu Bisu Bisu.....)


It would be epic if he did it against Fantasy (as a send off to TvT, which has not happened for many years), but if Fantasy defeats him in the final... that would be insane.

On April 16 2012 19:57 gavstrikk wrote:
I miss some more analysis of the ace match. I have a couple of questions regarding Flash's decisions:

1. Why did he not take the gas right after he destroyed Bisu's first assimilator? Was this a mistake, or didn't he mind that Bisu build another assimilator?

2. How can a player of Flash's caliber not realize the consequences of destroying a cybernetics core, that is no more dragoons for Bisu. I can't understand why he would not build some vultures right after destroying the core, since all Bisu could build now was zealots.

I hope someone here will try to enlighten my regarding these questions.


Economy, he needed to build Marines to fend off the Zealot aggression, he could have built the Refinery, but why bother when he was building the 2nd CC and could just build it there later?

Flash did manage to get out 3 Vultures, but Bisu's zealots were already in the main, the Vultures were stuck in traffic because of them, and they did not have the speed upgrade to escape. They were quickly butchered, and not having tank support meant they could not have any back-up; and that isn't even considering the 2 Dragoons present on the ramp.

IN ANY CASE:

DAMN THAT WRITEUP <3

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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 16 2012 11:33 GMT
#119
was a little sad to see kt fall, but I'm still happy for esports
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 16 2012 11:44 GMT
#120
On April 16 2012 19:57 gavstrikk wrote:
I miss some more analysis of the ace match. I have a couple of questions regarding Flash's decisions:

1. Why did he not take the gas right after he destroyed Bisu's first assimilator? Was this a mistake, or didn't he mind that Bisu build another assimilator?

2. How can a player of Flash's caliber not realize the consequences of destroying a cybernetics core, that is no more dragoons for Bisu. I can't understand why he would not build some vultures right after destroying the core, since all Bisu could build now was zealots.

I hope someone here will try to enlighten my regarding these questions.

as for 1, the combination of bisu retaking it, having to deal with zealots etc and probably planning to get an expand out all factored into it.

for 2. bisu rebuild his citadel before it was even close to dying. flash had to assume that when bisu starting taking fire on the core he could've / would've rebuilt it in the same timing he remade the citadel. the zealots weren't so much forced by flash but a reaction by bisu
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ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
April 16 2012 11:47 GMT
#121
I NEED YOU I AM PROGAMER

watched every minute, regretted nothing. amazing finals!
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
April 16 2012 12:05 GMT
#122
great write up. Thanks.
Congratulation SKT. awesome final.
HoeJJa !!!!
Learn,live and love it.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
April 16 2012 12:25 GMT
#123
What an epic write-up. I usually don't follow anymore the BW scene but this finals in particular i was there watching it early in the morning (for me). What an epic finals.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
AnYvia
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria474 Posts
April 16 2012 12:31 GMT
#124
Amazing write-up as usual. My breath has been stolen.
SKT, the best KT.
Flash / MVP / Seed / Leenock / DRG / Life
mesaha
Profile Joined April 2012
Algeria3 Posts
April 16 2012 12:38 GMT
#125
--- Nuked ---
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
April 16 2012 12:38 GMT
#126
Was expecting huge skt-biasness in the report, was not disappoint.


Ggwp skt
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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 16 2012 13:39 GMT
#127
tears came down cause I know I will probably never see a bw only PL finals live in korea.
this may be one of the only things in my entire life that I will forever regret.

Mrwl
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Sweden339 Posts
April 16 2012 14:04 GMT
#128
On April 16 2012 22:39 Kznn wrote:
tears came down cause I know I will probably never see a bw only PL finals live in korea.
this may be one of the only things in my entire life that I will forever regret.




I feel exactly the same We should moan together....
BW heyo
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9497 Posts
April 16 2012 14:09 GMT
#129
On April 16 2012 19:55 gogoplex wrote:
I love Flash genius to death, but 2pacalypse's article on the Bisu vs. Flash is so lacking and so deceiving that readers who haven't seen the games think it was too simple. For example, Bisu didn't make just zealots because he lost core. Core was already on the way, and the speedlot wave transition was part of the plan, if you look at the game in its totality. There were a few other significant details that the article missed that made it unreflective of the epicness of the Ace match.

Still, I love the fact the if indeed that if going to be the last BW PL game, it run with the show!

I think you're misunderstanding what a Battle Report is. I definitely did not write a deep analysis of that game. It's just a short report with few pictures on how the game transpired. How can it be deceiving? I literally just went through the game step by step and wrote what was happening on the screen at the moment.
But even if I did write an analysis of it, you would still be wrong. Of course it was part of Bisu's plan to make zealots in PvT, that's the part of every PvT... But Bisu could ONLY make Zealots then. So unless it was his plan to lose a cybernetics core, I'd say he didn't do anything special there.
Just to put it into numbers (from VOD):
15:14 - Bisu loses his core
16:28 - it shows his core at about 60% done
16:52 - if you do the math, that's about the time his core finished

Now you see that Bisu was without his core for about two whole minutes. If you take into account that it takes 40 seconds for zealot to be produced, you can conclude that he made three rounds from his gateways of pure zealots. He just lucked out that Flash didn't build any vultures whatsoever. And if I remember correctly, Flash mentioned in an interview that he didn't make vultures because he thought he killed Bisu's citadel so he didn't have speed zealots. Alas...
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 14:13:02
April 16 2012 14:12 GMT
#130
The write-up is [image loading]the thread is [image loading] <3!

Quite an epic finals for what may be the last BW Proleague.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
April 16 2012 14:15 GMT
#131
fantasy S+
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
April 16 2012 14:15 GMT
#132
To be able to see this live... there isn't much I'd rather do. Unfortunately, however, this might have been the last BW PL. I really hope that it isn't and that we'll have more in future. We can just wait and see, I guess.

On another note, these articles are so good!
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 14:18:47
April 16 2012 14:18 GMT
#133
On April 16 2012 22:39 Kznn wrote:
tears came down cause I know I will probably never see a bw only PL finals live in korea.
this may be one of the only things in my entire life that I will forever regret.


I thought the next OSL's finals happens within the 9 days me and my family will spend in Korea, only to realize I miscalculated and we're actually a month earlier, like during the Ro8.



I hope BW and SC2 will split once the gaming industry(not gonna use the e word) in Korea re-establishes itself after the scandal, then we'll see more FvJ and KT vs SKT finals.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
GoooN
Profile Joined August 2010
217 Posts
April 16 2012 14:20 GMT
#134
Great write-up to a great series

but also:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 16 2012 23:15 N.geNuity wrote:
fantasy S+

Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
April 16 2012 14:31 GMT
#135
Great write up for a great match
RIP MBC Game Hero
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 14:38:13
April 16 2012 14:36 GMT
#136
I did not read the Riptide part for obivous reasons ( :-( ), but great write up everywhere else, and close to no SKT bias where it could be avoided, thanks guys.
I disagree with the way you rated Flash, but I don't really care. Still, you could give the best player on SKT a bit more consideration (and a S+ report card). After all, even as a Flash fan, I think Fantasy might be the current best BW player. His PvT is certainly, better, and he's proven that his TvT is at least closer than what many people expected =) His TvZ probably lags a bit behind, but that match up has rarely seemed as Terran favored since before IPXzerg, so it does not really matter.
This shall be settled in this next OSL, hopefully in the finals :D
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 16 2012 14:54 GMT
#137
Fantasy should be S+ and finals mvp, he beat Flash on a level playing field. Bisu beat a sacrificial p7gab and abused a broken map. Kiett's cartoon might be more accurate if flash had his hands tied together and bisu had a gun
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
April 16 2012 14:56 GMT
#138
Woongjin whooooo!
I think esports is pretty nice.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 16 2012 15:00 GMT
#139
This finals were epic.
The OGN SPL production was flawless.
The commentators were fabulous.
The BW TL team coverage was splendid.
Fantasy vs Flash was mindblowing.
Bisu vs Flash was a cardiac arrest test.

The end was all tears, of joy and relief.

I will carry BW forever in my heart, and nothing can ever replace it.

On April 16 2012 14:44 Kiett wrote:
skt is best kt

spl team is best news team

bw is best esport


On April 16 2012 23:15 N.geNuity wrote:
fantasy S+
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
April 16 2012 15:04 GMT
#140
I hope this was not the end of the BW proleague but if it was then it surely was a fitting end. SKT hwaiting! Bisu hwaiting! Fantasy hwaiting!
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 16 2012 15:17 GMT
#141
just wanted to comment that the position of fantasy and bisu were much debated and considered. bisu was given S+ over fanta because not only did he get his team off to a good start, he came from a deficit in his game, and he was the one who delivered in the ace match. fantasy's play was immaculate and impressive, but he was playing with no pressure thanks to bisu getting the team off to a good start, and meanwhile bisu was playing with everything on the line in the ace match. to hold your nerve to win 2 games in a grand final deserves every praise regardless of your opinions on map balance or the quality of wookie (who btw is pretty good)
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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
April 16 2012 15:21 GMT
#142
If only Bisu would be in the OSL, too
ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
April 16 2012 15:24 GMT
#143
[image loading]

Awesome write-up, awesome final.

The best way to say goodbye.
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taxi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States8 Posts
April 16 2012 15:38 GMT
#144
hahaha Kiett and Hyde are you guys just going to keep giving F's to all the KT fans who disagree with your flash rating?
They told me “Practice makes perfect.” Then they told me “Nobody’s perfect.” So I stopped practicing.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 16 2012 15:47 GMT
#145
Even with that F vs S+ between Flash and Bisu, I'm still not sure that Bisu even deserves now to overcome Flash in the Power Rank. We'll have to wait and see. Oh, and the idea of double sword death was a nice symbol of the two loses, wp.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
April 16 2012 15:47 GMT
#146
thanks, great recap! skt skt! !SKT!!
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
April 16 2012 15:55 GMT
#147
kjwcj clearly not a KT fan.

How does HoeJJa not get an A? He's clearly the playoff MVP this season, and the game against BeSt was simply beautiful.

I guess you can argue F for Flash on the whole "lost the ace match" thing, but... only on that grounds. I don't see how anything lower than a C is sensible.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
April 16 2012 15:58 GMT
#148
SPL team is almost 100% SKT fans, any chance they have to give Flash an F they will.

Nice writeup, even though I am not really an SKT fan, I was glad to see them win. The coach was so happy. :D
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 16 2012 15:59 GMT
#149
On April 17 2012 00:58 Torenhire wrote:
SPL team is almost 100% SKT fans, any chance they have to give Flash an F they will.

Nice writeup, even though I am not really an SKT fan, I was glad to see them win. The coach was so happy. :D

in this case you're wrong. that section was written by kjwcj...a cj fan lol
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amostan
Profile Joined December 2011
Singapore48 Posts
April 16 2012 16:02 GMT
#150
Sickest write up ever. You guys at TL...<3
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
April 16 2012 16:06 GMT
#151
These finals were simply amazing. Special thanks to Sayle for the English rebroadcasts. It made pro BW way easier to watch and understand. Thanks to all the guest commentators too, you all did great. Excellent write up, I really enjoyed it.

Render
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States249 Posts
April 16 2012 16:16 GMT
#152
Just an amazing writeup, and wonderful story. I love how deeply we can love this game.
Rose my color is and white, pretty mouth and green my eyes.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 16 2012 16:22 GMT
#153
On April 17 2012 00:47 figq wrote:
Even with that F vs S+ between Flash and Bisu, I'm still not sure that Bisu even deserves now to overcome Flash in the Power Rank. We'll have to wait and see. Oh, and the idea of double sword death was a nice symbol of the two loses, wp.


The new power rank has been out for a few days, It's just not posted in a thread anywhere.

I noticed it by having it on my sidebar.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 16:24:14
April 16 2012 16:23 GMT
#154
Two best BW players start their names with F. I think we all know that F class is the best class.
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
April 16 2012 16:32 GMT
#155
Amazing write-up, amazing finals, fantastic coverage team. Epic nerd chills all the way~
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2003 Posts
April 16 2012 16:35 GMT
#156
Best [SPL] post all year I say. But then, I suffer from a bad case of T1 bias.

Keep it up! (Hopefully...)
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
April 16 2012 16:40 GMT
#157
Thank you for the writeup! I enjoyed it and the SPL finals

Poor Flash
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 16 2012 16:50 GMT
#158
On April 17 2012 00:38 taxi wrote:
hahaha Kiett and Hyde are you guys just going to keep giving F's to all the KT fans who disagree with your flash rating?



You dare to question?

[image loading]

Super F for you
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
April 16 2012 17:00 GMT
#159
On April 17 2012 00:17 Kiante wrote:
just wanted to comment that the position of fantasy and bisu were much debated and considered.



"jung myung hoon"
-crowd


"generic cheers" + funny "oh my gaaaaaaaa" from commentator

we all know whos real s+ ^.^

+ Show Spoiler +
this is just generic fun, as a fantasy fanboy. Obviously not to be taken as a serious critique
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
April 16 2012 17:02 GMT
#160
Good write up, I guess you expect Flash to win but both of his losses were quite epic games... So I don't know how fair it is to give him an F even stats, Sun pulled a very nice move.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
April 16 2012 17:12 GMT
#161
Great writeup, the SPL team never fails to deliver.

Sad for Flash, happy for Fantasy.
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 17:34:12
April 16 2012 17:21 GMT
#162
EPIC EPIC writeup
The SPL writing team is just so good
S+++++++

2 things I disagree with
Hoejja deserves and A/ A+
he played so well against Best (who has been really good at pvz this season) and completely dismantled him with playguus and ensnaruuss, he looked so godly there and I hope that he continues his dominance next season (why are you out of OSL, whyyy)

Also
sOO should be an F
watching him move his mutas away from the 3 undefended drones when he had 0 himself killed me inside

edit:

Also this,

Bisu may not have an OSL gold, and while that will always be a blemish on his otherwise illustrious record, as a SKT fan, this actually makes me smile. Bisu has no OSL medal and indeed, he is a long, long way from a golden mouse. He may not stand up there with Nada and July and Jaedong and Flash and yet, here in these final hours of Broodwar, he took his place up there alongside one greater than all of them.

Today, he stands with Lim Yo Hwan.


riptide for poet of the century
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renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 17:37:38
April 16 2012 17:34 GMT
#163
On April 16 2012 23:09 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 19:55 gogoplex wrote:
I love Flash genius to death, but 2pacalypse's article on the Bisu vs. Flash is so lacking and so deceiving that readers who haven't seen the games think it was too simple. For example, Bisu didn't make just zealots because he lost core. Core was already on the way, and the speedlot wave transition was part of the plan, if you look at the game in its totality. There were a few other significant details that the article missed that made it unreflective of the epicness of the Ace match.

Still, I love the fact the if indeed that if going to be the last BW PL game, it run with the show!

I think you're misunderstanding what a Battle Report is. I definitely did not write a deep analysis of that game. It's just a short report with few pictures on how the game transpired. How can it be deceiving? I literally just went through the game step by step and wrote what was happening on the screen at the moment.
But even if I did write an analysis of it, you would still be wrong. Of course it was part of Bisu's plan to make zealots in PvT, that's the part of every PvT... But Bisu could ONLY make Zealots then. So unless it was his plan to lose a cybernetics core, I'd say he didn't do anything special there.
Just to put it into numbers (from VOD):
15:14 - Bisu loses his core
16:28 - it shows his core at about 60% done
16:52 - if you do the math, that's about the time his core finished

Now you see that Bisu was without his core for about two whole minutes. If you take into account that it takes 40 seconds for zealot to be produced, you can conclude that he made three rounds from his gateways of pure zealots. He just lucked out that Flash didn't build any vultures whatsoever. And if I remember correctly, Flash mentioned in an interview that he didn't make vultures because he thought he killed Bisu's citadel so he didn't have speed zealots. Alas...


Don't think this is very true. Flash had 6 tanks pushing out when Bisu lost his cyber core. Upgrades for vulture are 100 (80 for spidermine, but both are needed) seconds, and takes 200 gas and 200 minerals in total. If Flash had upgraded those by the time Bisu's core went down, then he would have 4 tanks instead of 6. If Flash is just sooo perfect with timing he can time it such that he can delay his vulture upgrades long enough to get 2 tanks and have the upgrades finish by the time 2 rounds of zealots come attacking. Even if this did happen and he then produce nothing but vultures, he would still be in a terrible position since Bisu had a reaver with his zealot heavy army.

Remember, Flash has two locations (his main, and the cliff behind Bisu's main) he NEEDS to keep, if he loses one of these two positions he basically lost the game. Theres no way he can solidify his position at the back of Bisu's main let alone elevator them into Bisu's main with a dropship he built if he sacrifices tanks and pumps vultures none stop from there on. When the back gets cleaned up, Flash is pretty much dead anyways since he stopped SCVs to pull off his initial marine medic tank push, and is on 2 bases with only 3 factories..

Bisu is the man
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 16 2012 17:35 GMT
#164
On April 17 2012 01:22 Dodgin wrote:
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On April 17 2012 00:47 figq wrote:
Even with that F vs S+ between Flash and Bisu, I'm still not sure that Bisu even deserves now to overcome Flash in the Power Rank. We'll have to wait and see. Oh, and the idea of double sword death was a nice symbol of the two loses, wp.


The new power rank has been out for a few days, It's just not posted in a thread anywhere.

I noticed it by having it on my sidebar.
Thanks a lot, apparently I was looking at the top 8 elo rank for a while, and wondering why it doesn't quite fit the power rank. ^^ Never noticed the PR tick in the sidebar settings before. Phew, that's better.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9497 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 17:55:39
April 16 2012 17:52 GMT
#165
On April 17 2012 02:34 renzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 23:09 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On April 16 2012 19:55 gogoplex wrote:
I love Flash genius to death, but 2pacalypse's article on the Bisu vs. Flash is so lacking and so deceiving that readers who haven't seen the games think it was too simple. For example, Bisu didn't make just zealots because he lost core. Core was already on the way, and the speedlot wave transition was part of the plan, if you look at the game in its totality. There were a few other significant details that the article missed that made it unreflective of the epicness of the Ace match.

Still, I love the fact the if indeed that if going to be the last BW PL game, it run with the show!

I think you're misunderstanding what a Battle Report is. I definitely did not write a deep analysis of that game. It's just a short report with few pictures on how the game transpired. How can it be deceiving? I literally just went through the game step by step and wrote what was happening on the screen at the moment.
But even if I did write an analysis of it, you would still be wrong. Of course it was part of Bisu's plan to make zealots in PvT, that's the part of every PvT... But Bisu could ONLY make Zealots then. So unless it was his plan to lose a cybernetics core, I'd say he didn't do anything special there.
Just to put it into numbers (from VOD):
15:14 - Bisu loses his core
16:28 - it shows his core at about 60% done
16:52 - if you do the math, that's about the time his core finished

Now you see that Bisu was without his core for about two whole minutes. If you take into account that it takes 40 seconds for zealot to be produced, you can conclude that he made three rounds from his gateways of pure zealots. He just lucked out that Flash didn't build any vultures whatsoever. And if I remember correctly, Flash mentioned in an interview that he didn't make vultures because he thought he killed Bisu's citadel so he didn't have speed zealots. Alas...


Don't think this is very true. Flash had 6 tanks pushing out when Bisu lost his cyber core. Upgrades for vulture are 100 (80 for spidermine, but both are needed) seconds, and takes 200 gas and 200 minerals in total. If Flash had upgraded those by the time Bisu's core went down, then he would have 4 tanks instead of 6. If Flash is just sooo perfect with timing he can time it such that he can delay his vulture upgrades long enough to get 2 tanks and have the upgrades finish by the time 2 rounds of zealots come attacking. Even if this did happen and he then produce nothing but vultures, he would still be in a terrible position since Bisu had a reaver with his zealot heavy army.

Remember, Flash has two locations (his main, and the cliff behind Bisu's main) he NEEDS to keep, if he loses one of these two positions he basically lost the game. Theres no way he can solidify his position at the back of Bisu's main let alone elevator them into Bisu's main with a dropship he built if he sacrifices tanks and pumps vultures none stop from there on. When the back gets cleaned up, Flash is pretty much dead anyways since he stopped SCVs to pull off his initial marine medic tank push, and is on 2 bases with only 3 factories..

Yeah agree, Bisu was pretty far ahead in economy due to relatively fast third expansion so it didn't really matter for Flash. I was just saying had he made some vultures, even without upgrades, he could've maybe stop that attack by Bisu although losing a lot of SCVs in process. So in the end, even though it didn't seem like that in the game, Flash was in a pretty tough spot because Bisu took a fast third which I'm not sure he even scouted.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Lazar
Profile Joined April 2012
Bulgaria6 Posts
April 16 2012 18:06 GMT
#166
On April 17 2012 02:52 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 02:34 renzy wrote:
On April 16 2012 23:09 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On April 16 2012 19:55 gogoplex wrote:
I love Flash genius to death, but 2pacalypse's article on the Bisu vs. Flash is so lacking and so deceiving that readers who haven't seen the games think it was too simple. For example, Bisu didn't make just zealots because he lost core. Core was already on the way, and the speedlot wave transition was part of the plan, if you look at the game in its totality. There were a few other significant details that the article missed that made it unreflective of the epicness of the Ace match.

Still, I love the fact the if indeed that if going to be the last BW PL game, it run with the show!

I think you're misunderstanding what a Battle Report is. I definitely did not write a deep analysis of that game. It's just a short report with few pictures on how the game transpired. How can it be deceiving? I literally just went through the game step by step and wrote what was happening on the screen at the moment.
But even if I did write an analysis of it, you would still be wrong. Of course it was part of Bisu's plan to make zealots in PvT, that's the part of every PvT... But Bisu could ONLY make Zealots then. So unless it was his plan to lose a cybernetics core, I'd say he didn't do anything special there.
Just to put it into numbers (from VOD):
15:14 - Bisu loses his core
16:28 - it shows his core at about 60% done
16:52 - if you do the math, that's about the time his core finished

Now you see that Bisu was without his core for about two whole minutes. If you take into account that it takes 40 seconds for zealot to be produced, you can conclude that he made three rounds from his gateways of pure zealots. He just lucked out that Flash didn't build any vultures whatsoever. And if I remember correctly, Flash mentioned in an interview that he didn't make vultures because he thought he killed Bisu's citadel so he didn't have speed zealots. Alas...


Don't think this is very true. Flash had 6 tanks pushing out when Bisu lost his cyber core. Upgrades for vulture are 100 (80 for spidermine, but both are needed) seconds, and takes 200 gas and 200 minerals in total. If Flash had upgraded those by the time Bisu's core went down, then he would have 4 tanks instead of 6. If Flash is just sooo perfect with timing he can time it such that he can delay his vulture upgrades long enough to get 2 tanks and have the upgrades finish by the time 2 rounds of zealots come attacking. Even if this did happen and he then produce nothing but vultures, he would still be in a terrible position since Bisu had a reaver with his zealot heavy army.

Remember, Flash has two locations (his main, and the cliff behind Bisu's main) he NEEDS to keep, if he loses one of these two positions he basically lost the game. Theres no way he can solidify his position at the back of Bisu's main let alone elevator them into Bisu's main with a dropship he built if he sacrifices tanks and pumps vultures none stop from there on. When the back gets cleaned up, Flash is pretty much dead anyways since he stopped SCVs to pull off his initial marine medic tank push, and is on 2 bases with only 3 factories..

Yeah agree, Bisu was pretty far ahead in economy due to relatively fast third expansion so it didn't really matter for Flash. I was just saying had he made some vultures, even without upgrades, he could've maybe stop that attack by Bisu although losing a lot of SCVs in process. So in the end, even though it didn't seem like that in the game, Flash was in a pretty tough spot because Bisu took a fast third which I'm not sure he even scouted.


Me thinks there's another key element here that was missed in the recap and might have led to this discussion. It's true that Bisu was without a core for awhile, but I don't think he made zealots because he was without a core, rather it was his intention to do a speedlot counter all along and this is why he did not rebuild the core sooner. He actually rebuilds the citadel at the natural even before his first one and the core go down. Had he wanted to not interrupt his goon production he could have started a second core as soon as the first one was under siege.

I am a big Bisu fan, but nevertheless I think this was some ingenuity, foresight and good timing on his part rather than "luck" as he himself calls it or being forced into making a ton of zealots and having Flash unprepared for them.
Bisu hwaiting! Huk fighting!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 18:24:53
April 16 2012 18:23 GMT
#167
Giving flash a F is harsh considering how close the games were.. like really...

This finals can be summed up at me being, disappointed at stats / wooki both who really had the BO advantage and being super sad for flash

Good write up

Also SKT1 fans we're still the best

and I am biased and stupid, you will not convince me
In the woods, there lurks..
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9497 Posts
April 16 2012 18:27 GMT
#168
On April 17 2012 03:06 lazar56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 02:52 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On April 17 2012 02:34 renzy wrote:
On April 16 2012 23:09 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On April 16 2012 19:55 gogoplex wrote:
I love Flash genius to death, but 2pacalypse's article on the Bisu vs. Flash is so lacking and so deceiving that readers who haven't seen the games think it was too simple. For example, Bisu didn't make just zealots because he lost core. Core was already on the way, and the speedlot wave transition was part of the plan, if you look at the game in its totality. There were a few other significant details that the article missed that made it unreflective of the epicness of the Ace match.

Still, I love the fact the if indeed that if going to be the last BW PL game, it run with the show!

I think you're misunderstanding what a Battle Report is. I definitely did not write a deep analysis of that game. It's just a short report with few pictures on how the game transpired. How can it be deceiving? I literally just went through the game step by step and wrote what was happening on the screen at the moment.
But even if I did write an analysis of it, you would still be wrong. Of course it was part of Bisu's plan to make zealots in PvT, that's the part of every PvT... But Bisu could ONLY make Zealots then. So unless it was his plan to lose a cybernetics core, I'd say he didn't do anything special there.
Just to put it into numbers (from VOD):
15:14 - Bisu loses his core
16:28 - it shows his core at about 60% done
16:52 - if you do the math, that's about the time his core finished

Now you see that Bisu was without his core for about two whole minutes. If you take into account that it takes 40 seconds for zealot to be produced, you can conclude that he made three rounds from his gateways of pure zealots. He just lucked out that Flash didn't build any vultures whatsoever. And if I remember correctly, Flash mentioned in an interview that he didn't make vultures because he thought he killed Bisu's citadel so he didn't have speed zealots. Alas...


Don't think this is very true. Flash had 6 tanks pushing out when Bisu lost his cyber core. Upgrades for vulture are 100 (80 for spidermine, but both are needed) seconds, and takes 200 gas and 200 minerals in total. If Flash had upgraded those by the time Bisu's core went down, then he would have 4 tanks instead of 6. If Flash is just sooo perfect with timing he can time it such that he can delay his vulture upgrades long enough to get 2 tanks and have the upgrades finish by the time 2 rounds of zealots come attacking. Even if this did happen and he then produce nothing but vultures, he would still be in a terrible position since Bisu had a reaver with his zealot heavy army.

Remember, Flash has two locations (his main, and the cliff behind Bisu's main) he NEEDS to keep, if he loses one of these two positions he basically lost the game. Theres no way he can solidify his position at the back of Bisu's main let alone elevator them into Bisu's main with a dropship he built if he sacrifices tanks and pumps vultures none stop from there on. When the back gets cleaned up, Flash is pretty much dead anyways since he stopped SCVs to pull off his initial marine medic tank push, and is on 2 bases with only 3 factories..

Yeah agree, Bisu was pretty far ahead in economy due to relatively fast third expansion so it didn't really matter for Flash. I was just saying had he made some vultures, even without upgrades, he could've maybe stop that attack by Bisu although losing a lot of SCVs in process. So in the end, even though it didn't seem like that in the game, Flash was in a pretty tough spot because Bisu took a fast third which I'm not sure he even scouted.


Me thinks there's another key element here that was missed in the recap and might have led to this discussion. It's true that Bisu was without a core for awhile, but I don't think he made zealots because he was without a core, rather it was his intention to do a speedlot counter all along and this is why he did not rebuild the core sooner. He actually rebuilds the citadel at the natural even before his first one and the core go down. Had he wanted to not interrupt his goon production he could have started a second core as soon as the first one was under siege.

I am a big Bisu fan, but nevertheless I think this was some ingenuity, foresight and good timing on his part rather than "luck" as he himself calls it or being forced into making a ton of zealots and having Flash unprepared for them.

Yeah, I'll give you that Bisu willfully decided to switch to zealots which is why he built new core so late. But it's pretty natural to make speed zealots when you see your opponent have nothing but tanks. I don't think there was anything ingenious about it, but I still must admit that Bisu played brilliantly from start until the end of the game.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
April 16 2012 18:54 GMT
#169
We ride together
We die together
BW 4 Life
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
April 16 2012 19:17 GMT
#170
This is awesome
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
April 16 2012 19:22 GMT
#171
Fantastic writeup!

BW for Life!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
April 16 2012 19:57 GMT
#172
On April 16 2012 15:19 Kiante wrote:
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On April 16 2012 15:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Finally definately worth the wait.

was expecting anger at skt bias. very surprised. decent comment.

[image loading]


if this was blog, 1 star for skt bias
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
April 16 2012 20:46 GMT
#173
On April 17 2012 03:23 Iplaythings wrote:
Giving flash a F is harsh considering how close the games were.. like really...

This finals can be summed up at me being, disappointed at stats / wooki both who really had the BO advantage and being super sad for flash

Good write up

Also SKT1 fans we're still the best

and I am biased and stupid, you will not convince me

You know:

[image loading]lash

is in his own category and no ratings are really needed to judge him fairly. This is however different situation
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
April 16 2012 20:55 GMT
#174
Thank you.

Love the writeup. Love the manga. Love SKT. Love Bisu. Love BW.
Plagu
Profile Joined June 2010
7 Posts
April 16 2012 21:09 GMT
#175
Thank you, this was an awesome write up!

I really liked the picture of Coach Park being thrown up in the air on the main page. Where did this picture come from? Was it taken by someone at TL?
Yaaahhh!! Playgu!
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
April 16 2012 21:42 GMT
#176
Sick write up and recap. Games were truly incredible to watch, and the pics and nice graphics along with Keitt's Manga seires too good. Thanks!!
rolypoly
Profile Joined March 2009
20 Posts
April 17 2012 01:24 GMT
#177
Great writeup & comic! :D

Many Thanks to HawaiianPig, Kiante, Mustaju, SirJolt, 2Pacalypse-, Carnivorous Sheep, Simplistik, Hyde, Kiett, kjwcj and konadora!!! you guys rocks!!
Starcraft
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
April 17 2012 01:46 GMT
#178
Salavatious post!
SPL team is the best.
Such epic stories ;;
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
ninjafetus
Profile Joined December 2008
United States231 Posts
April 17 2012 03:07 GMT
#179
Man, these finals were so wonderful. Great writeup. I love Brood War. That is all =D
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 17 2012 03:08 GMT
#180
[image loading]lash [image loading]ails
☺
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
April 17 2012 03:12 GMT
#181
If Flash is still in a class of his own...

Is Flash forever [image loading] class henceforth, win or lose? It's ambiguous enough to stick, I'm telling you
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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
April 17 2012 03:59 GMT
#182
the saddest thing is wanting to say "we'll get you next year" but knowing we pretty much wont have a next year.

TT
Woo Jung Ho
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
April 17 2012 04:42 GMT
#183
Incredible write-up. Thanks.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 17 2012 05:15 GMT
#184
Cheese in the final. Always. That is the way to win. Reflecting now, can't believe Flash didn't choose to cheese or wall off.
Bisu=SSS (mystarcraft reference).
☺
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
April 17 2012 05:27 GMT
#185
Another incredible write up, I am definitely keeping this bookmarked so I re-read it every now and then.
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 17 2012 06:23 GMT
#186
On April 17 2012 14:15 Release wrote:
Cheese in the final. Always. That is the way to win. Reflecting now, can't believe Flash didn't choose to cheese or wall off.
Bisu=SSS (mystarcraft reference).


If you wall in and he gets dragoons you're gonna lost the two supply depots used for wall-in. And the lack of wall-in didn't hurt Flash against the proxy gate. The quadruple manner pylon and double gas steal did.

And maybe Flash was going to cheese, he sent that very early SCV but obviously he saw the pylon, and proxy rax vs proxy gate isn't a good idea.
ॐ
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
April 17 2012 06:42 GMT
#187
tt

I guess now I know how SKT fans felt the last 2 years...
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 07:00:17
April 17 2012 06:48 GMT
#188
The detailed Bisu/Flash battle report is weak and crap.

It glosses over way too many details and also has some horribly incorrect implications.

Example 1: that "contain" wasn't a contain at all. It didn't cut off Bisu's production and it *definitely* didn't stop Bisu from moving out of his base, how the hell can you call it a contain?

At best it was a great move to easily shut down 1 base worth of minerals and snipe a couple of tech buildings while being very hard to crack due to its great positioning.

At worst it was a desperation all-in (Flash cut a fuckton of SCVs for this while Bisu was still happily macroing with superior tech) that could only threaten part of 1 base and also managed to isolate his units so that they were useless at actually defending.

Example 2: Bisu wasn't "out of options". Why ignore the "option" of choosing which to rebuild first: the Citadel or the Core? Bisu rebuilt the Citadel while the Citadel/Core was being shelled and it was Flash that had to guess what he rebuilt since he doesn't have maphack like the rest of us spectators.

In fact I'm going to argue that *Flash* was out of options. Flash had a shit econ and all of Flash's income was devoted towards making marine/tank off of 3 factories. Any deviation into Vulture tech cuts down on the number of tanks he could make due to both resources and his 3 factories which also affects the chances of the all-in actually working.

Flash desperately needed tanks at both the siege location and his base and furthermore that speedzeal attack came really fucking quickly - how many vultures could you possibly produce in response? God forbid you burn 200/200 on vulture tech and then get stuck with like 3 vultures vs speedzeal/goon/reaver.

Flash might have made the game last a little longer if he somehow deflected the first speedzeal wave with vultures but he was still in a miserable position. Flash's sieged all-in position was in easy danger of being crushed and even if Flash somehow defended his base initially, Bisu would have the option of just crushing what was left of that all-in and then using his massive econ/tech advantage to overwhelm Flash at some point sooner or later.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
April 17 2012 10:37 GMT
#189
On April 17 2012 15:48 scrubtastic wrote:
The detailed Bisu/Flash battle report is weak and crap.

It glosses over way too many details and also has some horribly incorrect implications.

Example 1: that "contain" wasn't a contain at all. It didn't cut off Bisu's production and it *definitely* didn't stop Bisu from moving out of his base, how the hell can you call it a contain?

At best it was a great move to easily shut down 1 base worth of minerals and snipe a couple of tech buildings while being very hard to crack due to its great positioning.

At worst it was a desperation all-in (Flash cut a fuckton of SCVs for this while Bisu was still happily macroing with superior tech) that could only threaten part of 1 base and also managed to isolate his units so that they were useless at actually defending.

Example 2: Bisu wasn't "out of options". Why ignore the "option" of choosing which to rebuild first: the Citadel or the Core? Bisu rebuilt the Citadel while the Citadel/Core was being shelled and it was Flash that had to guess what he rebuilt since he doesn't have maphack like the rest of us spectators.

In fact I'm going to argue that *Flash* was out of options. Flash had a shit econ and all of Flash's income was devoted towards making marine/tank off of 3 factories. Any deviation into Vulture tech cuts down on the number of tanks he could make due to both resources and his 3 factories which also affects the chances of the all-in actually working.

Flash desperately needed tanks at both the siege location and his base and furthermore that speedzeal attack came really fucking quickly - how many vultures could you possibly produce in response? God forbid you burn 200/200 on vulture tech and then get stuck with like 3 vultures vs speedzeal/goon/reaver.

Flash might have made the game last a little longer if he somehow deflected the first speedzeal wave with vultures but he was still in a miserable position. Flash's sieged all-in position was in easy danger of being crushed and even if Flash somehow defended his base initially, Bisu would have the option of just crushing what was left of that all-in and then using his massive econ/tech advantage to overwhelm Flash at some point sooner or later.


Yep, we discussed this many times before, and i believe this was the analysis that are most agreed upon.

Flash was behind after the opening, pulled out a surprised punch, but it wasn't enough to win him the game. Bisu picked the correct response too, one that Flash didn't expect.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
April 17 2012 14:49 GMT
#190
Thanks, nicely done.
I'm looking forward to see such think next year!!
Keep the faith!!!
SC forever!
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
April 17 2012 15:31 GMT
#191
hugely epic write up thank you very much everyone here at TL
jaedong imba
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44185 Posts
April 17 2012 15:42 GMT
#192
On April 16 2012 14:38 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 14:36 Sawamura wrote:
kiante you fail i am seeing all codes instead of pictures....

[image loading]


Flash with the F, along with the whole write-up and comic, makes my day.

SKT is best KT
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
April 17 2012 17:24 GMT
#193
Great write-up! Does anyone know how big the crowed was?
-_-
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
April 17 2012 17:25 GMT
#194
Why Flash, Why? :'(
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 17 2012 19:04 GMT
#195
On April 18 2012 02:24 gn0m wrote:
Great write-up! Does anyone know how big the crowed was?


According to Wikipedia, stadium's max capacity is 7500 people. I think around the third of the bleachers were used, so that's 2500, and around 400 people in the middle, on the court, so that's close to 3000 in total.
It doesn't sound a lot for PL Grand Finals, but the atmosphere was incredible.
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ankurra
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany46 Posts
April 17 2012 21:15 GMT
#196
Due to teamliquid, I was able to watch these epic moments live.

[image loading]hanks.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 17 2012 21:45 GMT
#197
If Flash is normally "G-Class" (God-Class), then Bisu's performance this Finals was some unfathomable class above God. Just saying... ^_^

Go SKT!
saroir
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany244 Posts
April 17 2012 23:09 GMT
#198
Nice write-up for a truly epic final.

Brood War till the very end.

SKT fighting!
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
April 17 2012 23:42 GMT
#199
On April 17 2012 19:37 ffreakk wrote:
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On April 17 2012 15:48 scrubtastic wrote:
The detailed Bisu/Flash battle report is weak and crap.

It glosses over way too many details and also has some horribly incorrect implications.

Example 1: that "contain" wasn't a contain at all. It didn't cut off Bisu's production and it *definitely* didn't stop Bisu from moving out of his base, how the hell can you call it a contain?

At best it was a great move to easily shut down 1 base worth of minerals and snipe a couple of tech buildings while being very hard to crack due to its great positioning.

At worst it was a desperation all-in (Flash cut a fuckton of SCVs for this while Bisu was still happily macroing with superior tech) that could only threaten part of 1 base and also managed to isolate his units so that they were useless at actually defending.

Example 2: Bisu wasn't "out of options". Why ignore the "option" of choosing which to rebuild first: the Citadel or the Core? Bisu rebuilt the Citadel while the Citadel/Core was being shelled and it was Flash that had to guess what he rebuilt since he doesn't have maphack like the rest of us spectators.

In fact I'm going to argue that *Flash* was out of options. Flash had a shit econ and all of Flash's income was devoted towards making marine/tank off of 3 factories. Any deviation into Vulture tech cuts down on the number of tanks he could make due to both resources and his 3 factories which also affects the chances of the all-in actually working.

Flash desperately needed tanks at both the siege location and his base and furthermore that speedzeal attack came really fucking quickly - how many vultures could you possibly produce in response? God forbid you burn 200/200 on vulture tech and then get stuck with like 3 vultures vs speedzeal/goon/reaver.

Flash might have made the game last a little longer if he somehow deflected the first speedzeal wave with vultures but he was still in a miserable position. Flash's sieged all-in position was in easy danger of being crushed and even if Flash somehow defended his base initially, Bisu would have the option of just crushing what was left of that all-in and then using his massive econ/tech advantage to overwhelm Flash at some point sooner or later.


Yep, we discussed this many times before, and i believe this was the analysis that are most agreed upon.

Flash was behind after the opening, pulled out a surprised punch, but it wasn't enough to win him the game. Bisu picked the correct response too, one that Flash didn't expect.

I'm not sure how to feel now. It's good to see that other people thought along similar lines...and it's not good to see that an inaccurate/misleading battle report like this makes the front page instead.

At some point I couldn't tell whether or not the report was actually what the writer believed, or it was some deliberate attempt at placating angry KT fans.

I'm guessing battle reports aren't amended/rewritten or whatever after being posted so instead I'll just recommend that better analysis be done for the next one.
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
April 17 2012 23:47 GMT
#200
On April 18 2012 06:45 trifecta wrote:
If Flash is normally "G-Class" (God-Class), then Bisu's performance this Finals was some unfathomable class above God. Just saying... ^_^

Go SKT!


Imbalanced map, and cheese. I would hardly say bisu played far better than flash.
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 18 2012 01:09 GMT
#201
On April 18 2012 08:47 ibreakurface wrote:
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On April 18 2012 06:45 trifecta wrote:
If Flash is normally "G-Class" (God-Class), then Bisu's performance this Finals was some unfathomable class above God. Just saying... ^_^

Go SKT!


Imbalanced map, and cheese. I would hardly say bisu played far better than flash.

cheese is something that fails if scouted. bisu put his proxy right in the path of the scout that would come from flash's base. he had no intention of hiding it. therefore it's not cheese.
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icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
April 18 2012 11:10 GMT
#202
Flash... the god that failed
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PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
April 18 2012 11:40 GMT
#203
The perfect final post for Season 1 PL team. I salute you all!
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
April 18 2012 12:01 GMT
#204
a tear was shed upon riptide's closing paragraphs

thank you bisu, thanks for the memories..
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2393 Posts
April 18 2012 12:12 GMT
#205
On April 18 2012 08:47 ibreakurface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 06:45 trifecta wrote:
If Flash is normally "G-Class" (God-Class), then Bisu's performance this Finals was some unfathomable class above God. Just saying... ^_^

Go SKT!


Imbalanced map, and cheese. I would hardly say bisu played far better than flash.

Yeah, it's a shame Flash threw the game away by cheesing.
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rslee
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 13:34:54
April 18 2012 13:30 GMT
#206
I just watched the VOD for fun again and realized something. Maybe I'm just slow to realizing this and it's already been discussed but I think Bisu made the citadel in his natural before he made the one in his main. In the VOD, the citadel in Bisu's main is finished ~12:30 on the OGN timer. But according to http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_of_Adun legs takes 133 seconds to finish. Bisu's attack when looking at the minimap started at ~13:50. That's only ~80 seconds after the citadel in the main finished.

In my opinion, Bisu made the second citadel in his main to trick flash into think legs wouldn't be done for a while. So Flash looking at the timing of the citadel did not expect such a fast speedlot push.

Just an observation from watching the VOD.

EDIT: pfft.. Math...
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ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
April 18 2012 17:05 GMT
#207
On April 18 2012 22:30 rslee wrote:
I just watched the VOD for fun again and realized something. Maybe I'm just slow to realizing this and it's already been discussed but I think Bisu made the citadel in his natural before he made the one in his main. In the VOD, the citadel in Bisu's main is finished ~12:30 on the OGN timer. But according to http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_of_Adun legs takes 133 seconds to finish. Bisu's attack when looking at the minimap started at ~13:50. That's only ~80 seconds after the citadel in the main finished.

In my opinion, Bisu made the second citadel in his main to trick flash into think legs wouldn't be done for a while. So Flash looking at the timing of the citadel did not expect such a fast speedlot push.

Just an observation from watching the VOD.

EDIT: pfft.. Math...


Wow really? o.O Bisu is even more awesome than i had thought, if this were to be the case :3

And given that to be the case, Flash really didn't have any reason to "respond" to the Speed Zeal counter.
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
April 18 2012 18:01 GMT
#208
On April 18 2012 22:30 rslee wrote:
I just watched the VOD for fun again and realized something. Maybe I'm just slow to realizing this and it's already been discussed but I think Bisu made the citadel in his natural before he made the one in his main. In the VOD, the citadel in Bisu's main is finished ~12:30 on the OGN timer. But according to http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_of_Adun legs takes 133 seconds to finish. Bisu's attack when looking at the minimap started at ~13:50. That's only ~80 seconds after the citadel in the main finished.

In my opinion, Bisu made the second citadel in his main to trick flash into think legs wouldn't be done for a while. So Flash looking at the timing of the citadel did not expect such a fast speedlot push.

Just an observation from watching the VOD.

EDIT: pfft.. Math...

Holy shit...

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jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
April 18 2012 18:29 GMT
#209
Kiett!! When is your epic comic coming out? :D
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 18:32:24
April 18 2012 18:32 GMT
#210
On April 18 2012 04:04 endy wrote:
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On April 18 2012 02:24 gn0m wrote:
Great write-up! Does anyone know how big the crowed was?


According to Wikipedia, stadium's max capacity is 7500 people. I think around the third of the bleachers were used, so that's 2500, and around 400 people in the middle, on the court, so that's close to 3000 in total.
It doesn't sound a lot for PL Grand Finals, but the atmosphere was incredible.

Yeah, I can imagine (read your blog about it). But still, compared to over 100k a few years back, 3k feels pretty depressing for a PL Grand Finals. Anyway, the games were as good as ever and thats whats important
-_-
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 19 2012 06:19 GMT
#211
On April 19 2012 03:32 gn0m wrote:
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On April 18 2012 04:04 endy wrote:
On April 18 2012 02:24 gn0m wrote:
Great write-up! Does anyone know how big the crowed was?


According to Wikipedia, stadium's max capacity is 7500 people. I think around the third of the bleachers were used, so that's 2500, and around 400 people in the middle, on the court, so that's close to 3000 in total.
It doesn't sound a lot for PL Grand Finals, but the atmosphere was incredible.

Yeah, I can imagine (read your blog about it). But still, compared to over 100k a few years back, 3k feels pretty depressing for a PL Grand Finals. Anyway, the games were as good as ever and thats whats important


Well even in 2012, I think that PL Grand Finals is still the only event that can reach #1 on Twitter and search engines for a whole country. Hell, I even heard HoeJJa was #4 after his game ! We may have had a small venue, but popularity is still here for sure.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 08:27:20
April 19 2012 08:26 GMT
#212
On April 18 2012 22:30 rslee wrote:
I just watched the VOD for fun again and realized something. Maybe I'm just slow to realizing this and it's already been discussed but I think Bisu made the citadel in his natural before he made the one in his main. In the VOD, the citadel in Bisu's main is finished ~12:30 on the OGN timer. But according to http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_of_Adun legs takes 133 seconds to finish. Bisu's attack when looking at the minimap started at ~13:50. That's only ~80 seconds after the citadel in the main finished.

In my opinion, Bisu made the second citadel in his main to trick flash into think legs wouldn't be done for a while. So Flash looking at the timing of the citadel did not expect such a fast speedlot push.

Just an observation from watching the VOD.

EDIT: pfft.. Math...


I had to verify to believe it ............ HOLY SHIT

That explains Flash's apparent "carelessness" or "lack of gas for vulture upgrades" which doesn't make much sense.
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hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
April 19 2012 08:30 GMT
#213
On April 18 2012 22:30 rslee wrote:
I just watched the VOD for fun again and realized something. Maybe I'm just slow to realizing this and it's already been discussed but I think Bisu made the citadel in his natural before he made the one in his main. In the VOD, the citadel in Bisu's main is finished ~12:30 on the OGN timer. But according to http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_of_Adun legs takes 133 seconds to finish. Bisu's attack when looking at the minimap started at ~13:50. That's only ~80 seconds after the citadel in the main finished.

In my opinion, Bisu made the second citadel in his main to trick flash into think legs wouldn't be done for a while. So Flash looking at the timing of the citadel did not expect such a fast speedlot push.

Just an observation from watching the VOD.

EDIT: pfft.. Math...

Hi I think Liquipedia lists time in normal game speed, so the actual build time is about 3/5 as long as what liquipedia lists. So zealot speed only takes about 80 seconds.
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rslee
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada226 Posts
April 19 2012 08:36 GMT
#214
On April 19 2012 17:30 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 22:30 rslee wrote:
I just watched the VOD for fun again and realized something. Maybe I'm just slow to realizing this and it's already been discussed but I think Bisu made the citadel in his natural before he made the one in his main. In the VOD, the citadel in Bisu's main is finished ~12:30 on the OGN timer. But according to http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_of_Adun legs takes 133 seconds to finish. Bisu's attack when looking at the minimap started at ~13:50. That's only ~80 seconds after the citadel in the main finished.

In my opinion, Bisu made the second citadel in his main to trick flash into think legs wouldn't be done for a while. So Flash looking at the timing of the citadel did not expect such a fast speedlot push.

Just an observation from watching the VOD.

EDIT: pfft.. Math...

Hi I think Liquipedia lists time in normal game speed, so the actual build time is about 3/5 as long as what liquipedia lists. So zealot speed only takes about 80 seconds.


If that's the case.. Then this is less climatic.. But even still, the destroyed citadel would have been Flash some sort of idea that legs didn't finish or had to be delayed. I still think Bisu built the citadel in his natural before the one in his main..
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 13:20:29
April 19 2012 13:18 GMT
#215
On April 19 2012 17:36 rslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 17:30 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
On April 18 2012 22:30 rslee wrote:
I just watched the VOD for fun again and realized something. Maybe I'm just slow to realizing this and it's already been discussed but I think Bisu made the citadel in his natural before he made the one in his main. In the VOD, the citadel in Bisu's main is finished ~12:30 on the OGN timer. But according to http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_of_Adun legs takes 133 seconds to finish. Bisu's attack when looking at the minimap started at ~13:50. That's only ~80 seconds after the citadel in the main finished.

In my opinion, Bisu made the second citadel in his main to trick flash into think legs wouldn't be done for a while. So Flash looking at the timing of the citadel did not expect such a fast speedlot push.

Just an observation from watching the VOD.

EDIT: pfft.. Math...

Hi I think Liquipedia lists time in normal game speed, so the actual build time is about 3/5 as long as what liquipedia lists. So zealot speed only takes about 80 seconds.


If that's the case.. Then this is less climatic.. But even still, the destroyed citadel would have been Flash some sort of idea that legs didn't finish or had to be delayed. I still think Bisu built the citadel in his natural before the one in his main..


You are almost right. I re watched the VOD once again. Bisu builds a citadel in the main at 11:58. I think that was just a normal play. Then Flash pushes behind his main, and tanks start shooting at the core and Bisu builds another citadel at the natural at 12:34 while the first one is not complete yet. The key point here is that Bisu could have canceled his citadel and get back a non negligible 113 mineral and 75 gas, but he didn't. He wanted Flash to see it destroyed not long after it finished to wrap.

Good catch man ! I feel like I need to edit my battle report now.
At least I hope that we won't have anyone saying that Bisu made tons of zealots just because Flash killed his core anymore.
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