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epjx31
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United Kingdom324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 14:28:30
March 29 2012 14:28 GMT
#21
I would definitely give it a shot if i know korean!!!!

Ma jae yoon fighting!
Mind for OSL!
willy001
Profile Joined March 2011
United States89 Posts
March 29 2012 14:28 GMT
#22
So savior is only doing this for koreans or will he have a translator like slayers min did?
bahaa
Profile Joined November 2008
Lebanon29 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 14:31:06
March 29 2012 14:28 GMT
#23
I think you shouldn't look at his past. He paid the price heavily and will still be paying it for the rest of his life, and given the chance to go back in time to change things, maybe he would, but rarely in life are there second chances right?

So even if he got his punishment, the reputation and shame associated with what he did makes it very difficult for him to work in a regular job at a company, and he cannot compete in SC or other games anymore as a job, so it makes perfect sense for him to do this.

I say go ahead and "redeem" yourself in the eyes of as many people as you can (many people will not forgive you that's true) and at least he is trying to do something legitimate to gain money this time around. I see it as a way to start over.

If anything Savior clearly did a huge mistake with terrible consequences for everyone that he cannot comprehend. The guy needs help and support and A CHANCE to being accepted again. Everyone deserves a second chance even if the crime was stabbing the Starcraft scene with a dagger in the back (actually he thought he was just stabbing his team, achievements, and fans, which in itself is still a big crime), but in reality it was much bigger than that.

So yeah, I think if it is something legitimate then he has the right to go ahead and do it, and you guys should support him for choosing a legitimate path. He wouldn't be the DESTROYER if he gave up and lived in shame for the rest of his life, would he?
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
March 29 2012 14:30 GMT
#24
On March 29 2012 23:28 bahaa wrote:
I think you shouldn't look at his past. He paid the price heavily and will still be paying it for the rest of his life, and given the chance to go back in time to change things, maybe he would, but rarely in life are there second chances right?

So even if he got his punishment, the reputation and shame associated with what he did makes it very difficult for him to work in a regular job at a company, and he cannot compete in SC or other games anymore as a job, so it makes perfect sense for him to do this.

I say go ahead and "redeem" yourself in the eyes of as many people as you can (many people will not forgive you that's true) and at least he is trying to something legitimate to gain money this time around. I see it as a way to start over.

If anything Savior clearly did a huge mistake with terrible consequences for everyone that he cannot comprehend. The guys needs help and support and A CHANCE for being accepted again. Everyone deserves a second chance even if the crime was stabbing the Starcraft scene with a dagger in the back (actually he thought he was just stabbing his team and fans, whihc itself is still a big crime), but in reality it was much bigger than that.

So yeah, I think if it is something legitimate then he has the right to go ahead and do it, and you guys should support him for choosing a legitimate path. He wouldn't be the DESTROYER if he gave up and lived in shame for the rest of his life, would he?

Most people would say if he had any remorse he would give up any public association with BW.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
March 29 2012 14:32 GMT
#25
"Best BJ"?
Cracked me up.
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 29 2012 14:33 GMT
#26
It makes me wonder about what will happen if he went back to Courage tournament again and earn his license.
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S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
March 29 2012 14:33 GMT
#27
how many lesson you learn is kinda useless. is how much time you practice =P
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bahaa
Profile Joined November 2008
Lebanon29 Posts
March 29 2012 14:34 GMT
#28
Most people would say if he had any remorse he would give up any public association with BW.


You need to put yourself in his place. He did something terrible, and he was punished accordingly. It's hard for him to be accepted socially or to find a regular job. To those people, I'd say it's what he knows best and needs to do inorder to feel that he's still worth something or can be potentially worth something by teaching the game he betrayed to those in need, and therefore attempting to make up for what he did. Just let him do it.
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
March 29 2012 14:38 GMT
#29
Savior should just withdraw to some shady corner of korea where we won't have to see him :p
BW for life !
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44271 Posts
March 29 2012 14:38 GMT
#30
On March 29 2012 23:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Hmm. I'm not surprised about the negative reaction, but I'm pretty sure he'll get a few customers just because of who he is.


I agree. And $25 per 1.5 hours? From an actual bonjwa? You've got to be crazy to pass that up if you want to get better, even if you're forced to pay for three sessions.

Ridiculously cheap. I have no idea why it's not at least $100/ hour to be honest. He's one of the best players of all time.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
March 29 2012 14:39 GMT
#31
On March 29 2012 23:34 bahaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
Most people would say if he had any remorse he would give up any public association with BW.


You need to put yourself in his place. He did something terrible, and he was punished accordingly. It's hard for him to be accepted socially or to find a regular job. To those people, I'd say it's what he knows best and needs to do inorder to feel that he's still worth something or can be potentially worth something by teaching the game he betrayed to those in need, and therefore attempting to make up for what he did. Just let him do it.

I'm not saying he should be arrested but for the majority of the BW community, foreign/Korean alike, don't think he should be making a living off coaching BW after he so heavily damaged the scene we are so passionate about.

Looks like he's not getting many signups so probably won't be a big deal.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 29 2012 14:40 GMT
#32
On March 29 2012 23:30 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 23:28 bahaa wrote:
I think you shouldn't look at his past. He paid the price heavily and will still be paying it for the rest of his life, and given the chance to go back in time to change things, maybe he would, but rarely in life are there second chances right?

So even if he got his punishment, the reputation and shame associated with what he did makes it very difficult for him to work in a regular job at a company, and he cannot compete in SC or other games anymore as a job, so it makes perfect sense for him to do this.

I say go ahead and "redeem" yourself in the eyes of as many people as you can (many people will not forgive you that's true) and at least he is trying to something legitimate to gain money this time around. I see it as a way to start over.

If anything Savior clearly did a huge mistake with terrible consequences for everyone that he cannot comprehend. The guys needs help and support and A CHANCE for being accepted again. Everyone deserves a second chance even if the crime was stabbing the Starcraft scene with a dagger in the back (actually he thought he was just stabbing his team and fans, whihc itself is still a big crime), but in reality it was much bigger than that.

So yeah, I think if it is something legitimate then he has the right to go ahead and do it, and you guys should support him for choosing a legitimate path. He wouldn't be the DESTROYER if he gave up and lived in shame for the rest of his life, would he?

Most people would say if he had any remorse he would give up any public association with BW.
You realize that this is an arbitrary/superficial association line? Is playing BW the same as being registered Kespa progamer, competing in Starleagues for great glory and money? You also need to use fingers to play, should he cut off all his fingers and never use them now?

If a professional runner gets banned from professional running, should he cut off his legs and never use them again?

The fact is, Savior teaching BW is perfectly legal, otherwise he would be in jail again already. He is allowed officially to do it, so why not do it. You don't like the guy, don't get into his lessons, that's all.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 14:45:19
March 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#33
I'm not really bothered by this. I agree in him being banned from professional gaming, but I think that's enough. He should be able to play as an amateur or teach if he wants to. I just think it's sad that he can't let go of BW. He's a bright 24 year old, and he probably have enough money to invest into a new career. Plus, his BW career was kind of over when he was caught, so he should have moved on either way.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
March 29 2012 14:44 GMT
#34
On March 29 2012 23:33 S2Glow wrote:
how many lesson you learn is kinda useless. is how much time you practice =P


Er no.

You miss the point of lessons. You can practice to your hearts content but it means absolutely nothing unless you know what you're doing wrong. This is what will help with that.

That being said if I could speak Korean I'd do this in a heartbeat because uh...it's savior and his shady dealings with match fixing have absolutely nothing to do with the sheer skill he has.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
bahaa
Profile Joined November 2008
Lebanon29 Posts
March 29 2012 14:47 GMT
#35
I've got some words to say to Savior (not insults), does anybody know if he understands English and if there is a way I can contact him, or if someone can get my message to him?

Thank You
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
March 29 2012 14:47 GMT
#36
what the f...
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
March 29 2012 14:48 GMT
#37
I still wish Savior well for anything he does.

His students are getting one hell of a bargain.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 29 2012 14:48 GMT
#38
I hate savior for what he has done but my mind is still having tough time accepting that he caused all the match fixing scandal . I mean back than I was referring to these guy as "The Man" for broodwar and ever since than I have trouble pointing to one guy who guy is damn good at the zerg race . I hope Jaedong will surpass and become the new bonjwa of course without any of these shenanigans .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50119 Posts
March 29 2012 14:55 GMT
#39
sigh savior :/
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
March 29 2012 14:56 GMT
#40
If I spoke Korean I'd definitely sign up for at least an hour of lessons.
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