@mizu I am okay with any toss girl picture but it is from fomos we can't post any fomos pictures because of the the damn confrontation between tl and fomos.
On March 27 2012 15:08 Kiett wrote: Bisu if you cant get out of this group, I don't even know what to say :<
Roro will 3 hatch hydra bust him in to victory just like what he did to wooki
On March 27 2012 15:22 Sawamura wrote: I have one question how many players will qualify from Group x ? Also is it bo1 ?
First of all, Happy Birthday!
Only 1 player will qualify per group, all matches will be bo3. There will also be a wildcard for hiya's spot, it will be a tourney for all 2nd placers in the groups. It will be single elimination, all bo1 (assuming they do it the same way they did last time). It is important to note that the wildcard for Hogil's spot was how Jangbi advanced from the qualifiers last time and we all knew what happened after that.
Though I find it weird that you are asking these questions since I seem to have the notion that you have been here on TL for a couple of years now.
On March 27 2012 15:22 Sawamura wrote: I have one question how many players will qualify from Group x ? Also is it bo1 ?
First of all, Happy Birthday!
Only 1 player will qualify per group, all matches will be bo3. There will also be a wildcard for hiya's spot, it will be a tourney for all 2nd placers in the groups. It will be single elimination, all bo1 (assuming they do it the same way they did last time). It is important to note that the wildcard for Hogil's spot was how Jangbi advanced from the qualifiers last time and we all knew what happened after that.
Though I find it weird that you are asking these questions since I seem to have the notion that you have been here on TL for a couple of years now.
Also, no reach. TT
I have only joined tl.net in the year 2010 but I have been watching proleague on youtube casted by klazart in the year 2008 . So yeah I am pretty much familiar with msl format but I never seem to understand with osl style of preliminaries however now I know how it works thanks to you .
On March 27 2012 15:22 Sawamura wrote: I have one question how many players will qualify from Group x ? Also is it bo1 ?
First of all, Happy Birthday!
Only 1 player will qualify per group, all matches will be bo3. There will also be a wildcard for hiya's spot, it will be a tourney for all 2nd placers in the groups. It will be single elimination, all bo1 (assuming they do it the same way they did last time). It is important to note that the wildcard for Hogil's spot was how Jangbi advanced from the qualifiers last time and we all knew what happened after that.
Though I find it weird that you are asking these questions since I seem to have the notion that you have been here on TL for a couple of years now.
On March 27 2012 15:22 Sawamura wrote: I have one question how many players will qualify from Group x ? Also is it bo1 ?
First of all, Happy Birthday!
Only 1 player will qualify per group, all matches will be bo3. There will also be a wildcard for hiya's spot, it will be a tourney for all 2nd placers in the groups. It will be single elimination, all bo1 (assuming they do it the same way they did last time). It is important to note that the wildcard for Hogil's spot was how Jangbi advanced from the qualifiers last time and we all knew what happened after that.
Though I find it weird that you are asking these questions since I seem to have the notion that you have been here on TL for a couple of years now.
Wow, with many B-teamers gone, the groups are all so stacked. Usually there would always be one of two obvious choices per group. This is going to be exciting.
Bisu should make it out of his group, then ODT will be filled with zergs, so he should make it toooooo !
I hope BeSt can qualify, but his group is pretty stacked.
edit : Oh I was wondering why there were so few players, ACE not participating. I hate myself for not realizing FBH was missing. Damn it. Thanks Ryo as usual.
I really don't Bisu coming out of his group that easy. Barracks and Roro can beat him in a straight game, Ryul and Bisang can/will cheese, plus Bisu's performance (at the moment, and always in OSL) is rather weak. Going to be a huge deal for him. Hopefully it will not have a huge impact for the PL finals.
I dont see why people think bisu is gonna lose to Roro or Ryul. Tho he's PvT is shaky its by no means shit, and his mechanics alone are good enough to crush newcomers. Then the Roro game...hello? its BvZ and bisu is sexier so =P lol
oh man its been so long i almost forgot how nice it feels when a new tourney begins. To bad we got no more msl when we used to have them running side by side we would get those 2 weeks where there is BW every single night.
On March 27 2012 17:21 Shock710 wrote: I dont see why people think bisu is gonna lose to Roro or Ryul. Tho he's PvT is shaky its by no means shit, and his mechanics alone are good enough to crush newcomers. Then the Roro game...hello? its BvZ and bisu is sexier so =P lol
historically Bisu's Proleague "B"vZ stats don't apply to OSL.
check out his OSL record against Shine or Hyvaa for example and compare it to the SPL record xD
I don't think he will make it out of the prelims :p
On March 27 2012 17:21 Shock710 wrote: I dont see why people think bisu is gonna lose to Roro or Ryul. Tho he's PvT is shaky its by no means shit, and his mechanics alone are good enough to crush newcomers. Then the Roro game...hello? its BvZ and bisu is sexier so =P lol
historically Bisu's Proleague "B"vZ stats don't apply to OSL.
check out his OSL record against Shine or Hyvaa for example and compare it to the SPL record xD
I don't think he will make it out of the prelims :p
Bisu's official OSL record against Hyvaa is actually 2-0. Including the prelims, it's 3-2. It's just that nobody remembers the games he wins, only the ones he loses lol
On March 27 2012 17:21 Shock710 wrote: I dont see why people think bisu is gonna lose to Roro or Ryul. Tho he's PvT is shaky its by no means shit, and his mechanics alone are good enough to crush newcomers. Then the Roro game...hello? its BvZ and bisu is sexier so =P lol
historically Bisu's Proleague "B"vZ stats don't apply to OSL.
check out his OSL record against Shine or Hyvaa for example and compare it to the SPL record xD
I don't think he will make it out of the prelims :p
Bisu's official OSL record against Hyvaa is actually 2-0. Including the prelims, it's 3-2. It's just that nobody remembers the games he wins, only the ones he loses lol
true enough, on the other hand he has a 100% non-OSL related win record against hyvaa and 80% non OSL wins against Shine, there's a pattern =)
Bisu is not going to lose to any random terrans or zergs. His superior mechanics alone almost guarantees that. While Roro took a game off him it is unlikely to happen again. If Bisu is going to go out to any low-profile players its going to be a toss because PvP is a build-order luckfest.
On March 27 2012 18:43 pylonsalad wrote: Bisu is not going to lose to any random terrans or zergs. His superior mechanics alone almost guarantees that. While Roro took a game off him it is unlikely to happen again. If Bisu is going to go out to any low-profile players its going to be a toss because PvP is a build-order luckfest.
Yeah, Bisu has never been eliminated in a humiliating fashion by any mediocre Zerg or Terran player, it can't happen, he has the mechanics ! Edit : just like Flash and that MST group, 2 mediocre terran, Flash is 75% TvT, can't happen right ?
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
On March 27 2012 15:08 Kiett wrote: Bisu if you cant get out of this group, I don't even know what to say :<
Some faith you have =/
Bisu is as good as qualified ^_^
Only thing worrying me is that he's complained about SKT putting too much emphasis on Proleague and with the finals coming up, what if he doesn't get enough practice for the prelims...
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
I like how they never send FBH out and then complain about their record. WTF?
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
I can't remember this ever happening before.
It reminds me of when STX put their entire team up for trading. "The beatings will continue until morale improves."
On March 27 2012 19:30 Ideas wrote: since the prelims are going on during the post season, Hoejja will probably go undefeated. sorry bogus :\
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow, sounds like SKT, but worse, but I understand. I hope they'll do well next season.
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
I can't remember this ever happening before.
Back in 2006, SKT made players pick between OSL and MSL, that only lasted like one season though.
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
I can't remember this ever happening before.
It reminds me of when STX put their entire team up for trading. "The beatings will continue until morale improves."
We are all very happy, but shall we actually see those games? I remember some guy post that vods shall be available on nevake's youtube channel but is that confirmed? Also can't they just invite some random people (Top 10 fish server) to play in free spots that are left or have very small fast tour to determinate who can take free spots... At least if there is a last OSL at least to be Full with players... everybody to have a chance.. Even me if i go sigh up and go to korea.. yeah why not.. Hey wait.. wait.. IM MODESTY im in Ro16 seeded what im talking about... wow.. what im doing here better go practice cuz i will OWN.. lols falsh look out this time i will be agressive lol.
Bisu (no excuses this time) Stats Best Bogus Movie Brave (upsetting Leta) SK Shy (hardest group for sure, poor Tossgirl T_T) Grape Zero (no snow this year) Effort Horang2
On March 27 2012 19:44 HejaBVB wrote: So is this finally SC2 or do they still play this dead 15yo game?
On March 27 2012 21:10 Mortality wrote: Predictions:
Bisu (no excuses this time) Stats Best Bogus Movie Brave (upsetting Leta) SK Shy (hardest group for sure, poor Tossgirl T_T) Grape Zero (no snow this year) Effort Horang2
I have some questions. 1) Does anyone what maps will be in the prelims? 2) Are all games broadcasted, e-sportstv maybe? Where will I have to look for spoiler-free vods?
On March 27 2012 21:11 Milkis wrote: Where's reach ;_;
Ah just noticed this T.T
Sick lineup already, given that this might be the last osl, I really want bisu, tossgirl, best, shuttle, soulkey, effort, crazyhydra and horangi to qualify.
The CJ Zerg in Group G is rare_Lt, not sure why his name listed there is different from on TLPD but the name in the OP is correct according to the KeSPA and LoteM sites. SKT Zerg in Group I is Sea.Hak (now KT.MGW)Hak I think), he's in TLPD under the name in the OP.
Of course I'll be cheering for Stork when it comes down to the elimination stages, but for the prelims, I'll be cheering for the Khan boys. I'd say Brave has a fair chance of making it, but for the rest, blehhh... going to be tough!
On March 27 2012 21:45 ne4aJIb wrote: Finally! Hope TossGirl qualifies.
I have some questions. 1) Does anyone what maps will be in the prelims? 2) Are all games broadcasted, e-sportstv maybe? Where will I have to look for spoiler-free vods?
She is in one tough group, doubt she has any slim chance of winning.
If I'm not mistaken the qualifiers are not broadcasted
If its like the past seasons, important and interesting games are gonna be broadcasted. Some while the game is going on while others being something like delayed telecast (commentating is still live) because the games would overlap. But this season, with less groups and 2 days (it was only 1 day before) they might be able to broadcast all games.
Group A: Bisu > RorO (I don't trust Bisu's Starleague PvZ, but Roro is a pretty standard player, which is to Bisu's favor) Group B: Stats > Classic (Classic is a creative player, and I expect him to do well, but not well enough to beat Stats) Group C: BeSt > Action (Best have impressed lately in PvZ, so he should be slightly favored) Group D: Bogus > HoeJJa (ez pick) Group E: Movie > Last (This could go either way, but I think experience will be the deciding factor) Group F: Leta > Brave (Leta is ripping it up right now and should win easily) Group G: Neo.G_Soulkey > Wooki (Very obvious pick) Group H: ToSsGirL > sHy (Seo Ji Soo, I believe) Group I: Light > Mind (Mind, get your stuff together.) Group J: ZerO > Snow (poor Snow.) Group K: EffOrt > Crazy-Hydra (Crazy-Hydra have a really good shot, but I want to believe in Effort) Group L: Horang2 > free (Horangee should breeze through this group.)
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
what f... what ?!?!?!
they did definitly worse in earlier years in Proleague and yet still participated in individual leagues.. I call bs and think that this is indeed something else..
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
what f... what ?!?!?!
they did definitly worse in earlier years in Proleague and yet still participated in individual leagues.. I call bs and think that this is indeed something else..
because if thats true then just.. lmao -.-
Agreed. The administration punishing ACE for teamleague inferiority is like punishing a baby for being short.
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
what f... what ?!?!?!
they did definitly worse in earlier years in Proleague and yet still participated in individual leagues.. I call bs and think that this is indeed something else..
because if thats true then just.. lmao -.-
Agreed. The administration punishing ACE for teamleague inferiority is like punishing a baby for being short.
Don't be silly. It's the military we're talking about. They(the progamers) should be thankful they're allowed to continue playing BW while serving their term. It's not like the military is pulling the plug off for the entire team, and the 'punishment' seems acceptable enough; not too harsh, yet enough to get the point over.
Hoping for another RoBisu match in Group A. Group H should be entertaining, I wonder if Sacscri can pull off another great game like he did in PL. Gogo KT players!!
On March 27 2012 23:27 ninini wrote: Group A: Bisu > RorO (I don't trust Bisu's Starleague PvZ, but Roro is a pretty standard player, which is to Bisu's favor)
STORK FIGHTING!~ I had such a fun time watching proleague, that I'm so excited to watch this tournament! I can't wait! This will be the first singles league of BW that I'm going to follow :D.
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
what f... what ?!?!?!
they did definitly worse in earlier years in Proleague and yet still participated in individual leagues.. I call bs and think that this is indeed something else..
because if thats true then just.. lmao -.-
Agreed. The administration punishing ACE for teamleague inferiority is like punishing a baby for being short.
Don't be silly. It's the military we're talking about. They(the progamers) should be thankful they're allowed to continue playing BW while serving their term. It's not like the military is pulling the plug off for the entire team, and the 'punishment' seems acceptable enough; not too harsh, yet enough to get the point over.
It's not about whether it's "acceptable". Of course it's acceptable. The South Korean air force can do whatever they want with their starcraft team (lol). The point is that it's completely stupid. The teams that do well aren't the ones with manic-depressive management like STX. Look at KT: "Performance in the OSL preliminaries is important for morale, so we'll put a lot of effort into that." (I paraphrase.) ACE: "So you can't beat teams that have more practice partners, more star power, and fewer distractions? Too bad, I guess this OSL isn't for you." Everyone knows ACE is handicapped, and when FBH turns out to be the strongest player they've ever had, they never send him out. What. The. Heck.
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
what f... what ?!?!?!
they did definitly worse in earlier years in Proleague and yet still participated in individual leagues.. I call bs and think that this is indeed something else..
because if thats true then just.. lmao -.-
Agreed. The administration punishing ACE for teamleague inferiority is like punishing a baby for being short.
Is it confirmed that there will be wildcard held for the Hiya's spot? Some people on the FOMOS are claiming that he will indeed participate in this starleague according to his stream.
오는 3월31일과 4월1일 이틀에 걸쳐 열리는 스타리그 2012 오프라인 예선에 공군 에이스 프로게임단이 출전하지 않기로 결정했다.
공군은 단체전으로 진행되는 프로리그 성적이 좋지 않았기 때문에 스타리그 예선에 나서지 않기로 했다. SK플래닛 스타크래프트 프로리그 시즌1에서 6승15패로 최하위를 기록했다. 공군 사령부에서는 "개인리그도 중요하지만 단체전인 프로리그에서 성적을 끌어 올리는 데 집중하라"고 명령을 내렸고 이번 스타리그 예선에는 팀 전체가 불참하기로 결정했다.
온게임넷 관계자는 "공군이 차기 시즌 프로리그를 준비하는 데 집중하기 위해 참가하지 않는 것으로 알고 있다"며 "많은 선수를 보유하고 있는 공군이 스타리그에서 실력을 발휘하길 바랐는데 나오지 않아 아쉽다"고 말했다.
Basically says that they've decided to not participate because their proleague record was so bad this past regular season.
The ACE staff said "Although individual leagues are important, focus on improving our Proleague record" and has pulled their players from this coming starleague preliminaries.
Wow.. way to demoralize the players from what they are dreaming of - individual success in the golden league. Sure that will help motivate proleague performance.. Sigh, Sometimes the military is so frustrating to deal with.
what f... what ?!?!?!
they did definitly worse in earlier years in Proleague and yet still participated in individual leagues.. I call bs and think that this is indeed something else..
because if thats true then just.. lmao -.-
Agreed. The administration punishing ACE for teamleague inferiority is like punishing a baby for being short.
T1 has done this exact same thing before.
Teams also did this with GOM too.
Allowing players to participate in only 1 or 2 individual leagues is miles away from allowing them to participate in 0.
Also --- if it's a matter of time constraints, it's different. Perhaps they can't fulfill their military duty while competing in the OSL. I'd understand that. I just think it's dumb if the purpose is disciplinary, because it will backfire.
On March 28 2012 02:12 Hesmyrr wrote: Is it confirmed that there will be wildcard held for the Hiya's spot? Some people on the FOMOS are claiming that he will indeed participate in this starleague according to his stream.
That would be so incredible :D
I think I would just have to cheer for Hiya to win the whole thing if he actually did that.
On March 28 2012 02:12 Hesmyrr wrote: Is it confirmed that there will be wildcard held for the Hiya's spot? Some people on the FOMOS are claiming that he will indeed participate in this starleague according to his stream.
If thats true thats incredibly awesome. Then he could hopefully get new offers from teams and come back
On March 28 2012 02:35 BLinD-RawR wrote: Wait what? Hiya is going into the OSL teamless???
Dafuq?
ooh seems like that was what was said on Afreeca but noone knows for sure. I guess we'll find out soon. If he can participate, he'll be seeded in the ODT.
On March 28 2012 02:35 BLinD-RawR wrote: Wait what? Hiya is going into the OSL teamless???
Dafuq?
ooh seems like that was what was said on Afreeca but noone knows for sure. I guess we'll find out soon. If he can participate, he'll be seeded in the ODT.
This is the first OSL I'm going to watch from start to end. Can please someone tell me what BYE means and the groups work out (like, does Ryul2 play more opponents than BByong) and how many sets that are played in each group?
On March 28 2012 04:04 kamikami wrote: Wait, who is Bye (the opponent of Bisu) ? Which race does he play ? I haven't heard of this "Bye" player before ? He's an amateur ???
BYE is so good that he's been seeded in the qualifiers like fifteen times. Unfortuantely I heard he's quite terrible at Brood War so I expect him to fail at every one of that opportunities. You can see even KeSPA expects this by having 'blank/no player' on every slot of BYE. Such BM.
On March 28 2012 04:04 kamikami wrote: Wait, who is Bye (the opponent of Bisu) ? Which race does he play ? I haven't heard of this "Bye" player before ? He's an amateur ???
he's the same Bye from the foreign ISL starleague, quite a famous player.
On March 28 2012 04:04 kamikami wrote: Wait, who is Bye (the opponent of Bisu) ? Which race does he play ? I haven't heard of this "Bye" player before ? He's an amateur ???
he's the same Bye from the foreign ISL starleague, quite a famous player.
On March 28 2012 04:04 kamikami wrote: Wait, who is Bye (the opponent of Bisu) ? Which race does he play ? I haven't heard of this "Bye" player before ? He's an amateur ???
It's actually KeSPA's BM knowing that Bisu might in fact not make it out of qualifiers again so they're just saying Bye. (Just a simple attack on Bisu for the fan tears he's caused me to have T.T)
The number of groups is lower and the groups are more stacked this season due to fewer B-teamers and players in general. A lot of good players won't get through.
With the rumor of this OSL be the last event featuring our beloved game, I wouldn't be surprised if every single BW pros under the jurisdiction of KeSpa would strive with their utmost effort in order to engrave their names in the hall of fame. Everything is placed in the line, be it destiny, be it fate. That being said, lads and gents, we have arrived at the highest point of the roller coaster in this amusement park. The beauty of this ride ahead will be such an incredible high. On the way down as gravity pulls us closer to the ground, we will be witnessing the cripest quality of StarCraft games ever to be witnessed by mortal beings...
I don't think this will be the last OSL. Even if they introduce an SC2 OSL and can't secure a sponsor willing to spend a lot of money for the next one and thus have lower prize money, I think there will be a BW OSL as long as people in Korea are interested in BW. edit: for clarity
On March 28 2012 11:15 reincremate wrote: I don't think this will be the last OSL. Even if they introduce an SC2 OSL and can't secure a sponsor willing to spend a lot of money for the next one and thus have lower prize money, I think there will be an OSL as long as people in Korea are interested in Starcraft.
It isn't really an OSL if its not a Brood War OSL anyways.
On March 28 2012 11:15 reincremate wrote: I don't think this will be the last OSL. Even if they introduce an SC2 OSL and can't secure a sponsor willing to spend a lot of money for the next one and thus have lower prize money, I think there will be an OSL as long as people in Korea are interested in Starcraft.
It isn't really an OSL if its not a Brood War OSL anyways.
I meant they'll probably have a BW OSL alongside an SC2 OSL (which would be pretty lame). With BW being more popular than SC2 in South Korea, it wouldn't make any sense to completely remove BW unless OGN completely shuts down. OGN shutting down is highly unlikely since Kespa is negotiating with Blizzard about SC2.
On March 28 2012 10:42 Ozarugold wrote: Every time qualifiers come around I Ctrl+F "Reach" so I can see who he is matched up again and estimate the odds of him getting out of the group.
Today...today is not a good day...
It's pretty hard to make it out of qualifiers when you retire.
Not that he would have made out of group in first place.
On March 28 2012 10:42 Ozarugold wrote: Every time qualifiers come around I Ctrl+F "Reach" so I can see who he is matched up again and estimate the odds of him getting out of the group.
Today...today is not a good day...
It's pretty hard to make it out of qualifiers when you retire.
Not that he would have made out of group in first place.
I just read about it. I are so sad... The last legend is leaving.
OGN has not updated the broadcast schedule on their website yet but according to media reports, the prelims/qualifiers on the 31st of March and 1st of April will be broadcasted live from 1pm KST onwards. The ODT is scheduled to start on 14th April, 1pm KST. Following that, all ODT matches will be played at 1pm on Saturdays and Sundays.
On March 28 2012 17:09 Ryo wrote: OGN has not updated the broadcast schedule on their website yet but according to media reports, the prelims/qualifiers on the 31st of March and 1st of April will be broadcasted live from 1pm KST onwards. The ODT is scheduled to start on 14th April, 1pm KST. Following that, all ODT matches will be played at 1pm on Saturdays and Sundays.
hmmm, so they're taking the PL timeslot so that they can run LoL and OSL without any trouble.
On March 28 2012 04:04 kamikami wrote: Wait, who is Bye (the opponent of Bisu) ? Which race does he play ? I haven't heard of this "Bye" player before ? He's an amateur ???
BYE is so good that he's been seeded in the qualifiers like fifteen times. Unfortuantely I heard he's quite terrible at Brood War so I expect him to fail at every one of that opportunities. You can see even KeSPA expects this by having 'blank/no player' on every slot of BYE. Such BM.
Ya, also Bisu would need to be seeded in the qualifiers fifteen times to make it out. Sadly, KeSPA is not so nice to him.
I was expecting a SKT tag. BvZ the whole OSL? Hopefully not, people will talk shit if he wins an OSL by playing only Zergs. But honestly I am pleased to see him win an OSL.
On March 27 2012 22:17 OpticalShot wrote: Of course I'll be cheering for Stork when it comes down to the elimination stages, but for the prelims, I'll be cheering for the Khan boys. I'd say Brave has a fair chance of making it, but for the rest, blehhh... going to be tough!
Sure? He is good but im concerned at him just playing one map all season long, his metagame may be a bit rusty on others
On March 28 2012 19:22 Caihead wrote: I hope we get an all TBLS Ro4, but that's gonna be impossible because Jangbi is gonna put stork and bisu with flash or something.
If Jangbi did that to his own teammate (Stork), that would be messed up.
On March 28 2012 19:22 Caihead wrote: I hope we get an all TBLS Ro4, but that's gonna be impossible because Jangbi is gonna put stork and bisu with flash or something.
If Jangbi did that to his own teammate (Stork), that would be messed up.
Pretty sure that's impossible anyway. OSL runs on a lottery system now, ever since Bacchus '10. Seeds don't get to pick groups anymore.
Im so happy this is finally happening. BW forever please!
Edit: And poor Ace players ;( Must have been really sad hearing the news for them, like their parents keeping them from attending a field trip or something
On March 29 2012 06:27 Glioburd wrote: Noob question but... Why NO FBH ??
Snm posted an article a few pages back that said the ace coaches did not want their player to play because of their poor spl performance. I don't know if that is a rumor or an official statement, but the point is that no ace players this OSL.
On March 29 2012 06:27 Glioburd wrote: Noob question but... Why NO FBH ??
Snm posted an article a few pages back that said the ace coaches did not want their player to play because of their poor spl performance. I don't know if that is a rumor or an official statement, but the point is that no ace players this OSL.
This makes absolutely no sense since ACE NEVER does well in the proleague.
On March 30 2012 04:06 slappy wrote: woulda been fun if boxer could have competed ^_^
what?
I mean, I don't know his status with Kespa, and I know he's got a sc2 team, but I'm saying it would have been cool for him to compete if he were able, seeing as it may be one of (if not the) last pro bw only tourny in Korea.
the drum of magikarp shall ring once more in the BW world, but not with a wimpy inaudible sound but with a mighty dragon's roar. Gyrados will be heard.
On March 29 2012 06:27 Glioburd wrote: Noob question but... Why NO FBH ??
Snm posted an article a few pages back that said the ace coaches did not want their player to play because of their poor spl performance. I don't know if that is a rumor or an official statement, but the point is that no ace players this OSL.
This makes absolutely no sense since ACE NEVER does well in the proleague.
wait a sec, I thought Hiya retired. is he back for this tournament in hope of getting recruited by a team this season? Has he been practicing off season?
On March 31 2012 01:34 PurePwnageofTerran wrote: wait a sec, I thought Hiya retired. is he back for this tournament in hope of getting recruited by a team this season? Has he been practicing off season?
IIRC, he's been streaming on afreeca. I believe he's been practicing quite a bit.
I just realized how falling into the prelims is like falling into limbo. Once you get there, it much be very hard to get out. In cases like Bisu, Stats and Best, you have to face players you usually never see so it's hard to determine their play styles. Whereas they know everything about you. Not saying that that's an acceptable excuse for not making it out of the prelims, but it's something to think about..
I will cheer for Hiya as much as for Jangbeee and Storky, this kid seriously needs to get recruited asap, SC scene without him just isn't the same. Not to mention that he also was pretty good Terran. Once again, JANGBI, STORK AND HIYA HWAITINGGGGG~~
On March 31 2012 01:34 PurePwnageofTerran wrote: wait a sec, I thought Hiya retired. is he back for this tournament in hope of getting recruited by a team this season? Has he been practicing off season?
IIRC, he's been streaming on afreeca. I believe he's been practicing quite a bit.
I just realized how falling into the prelims is like falling into limbo. Once you get there, it much be very hard to get out. In cases like Bisu, Stats and Best, you have to face players you usually never see so it's hard to determine their play styles. Whereas they know everything about you. Not saying that that's an acceptable excuse for not making it out of the prelims, but it's something to think about..
I disagree. The prelims is usually a different class of player than the actual tournament. If you consistently fail to exit the prelims w/o having a path of death, probably belong to the different (lower) class of player.
On March 27 2012 15:51 eviltomahawk wrote: Time for Ryul2 or RorO to play the role of Shine against Bisu.
Though Bisu winning an OSL would be pretty awesome and hilarious.
On March 27 2012 15:58 doothegee wrote: In before Roro beats Bisu
On March 27 2012 17:07 jaQi wrote: Bisu coming out of this group will be a surprise to me. Barracks and Roro gonna kick his ass. Group K is als quite interesting.
And I also feel sorry for free (Group L).
On March 27 2012 19:18 SkelA wrote: Roro pls knockout Bisu :p
On March 27 2012 19:58 jlim wrote: go roro
On March 27 2012 23:42 hellbound wrote: Bisu must not qualify. Time for the S-class reader to Shine.
On March 31 2012 17:18 s.Q.uelched wrote: Can someone please give an update of the players who advanced from day 1? Preferably in the same format as the OP!
On March 31 2012 17:37 pyrogenetix wrote: no bisu, no leta, no stats, bunch of faggot ass no name scrubs advance. I'm really sad.
and look at how many protoss advance. I think the protoss imba whining should shut the god damned fuck up right about now
User was warned for this post
lol chill man...
anyways, very surprised Roro got Bisu on lockdown, not easy beating sick his PvZ. Cant wait for Hiya's return too
I feel your anger man..
but maybe im slightly less pissed.. ;p
right, sorry for that, I'm just really pissed cuz this is probably the last OSL and all these players that actually represent the state of the game right now got eliminated.
feels almost like grand finals gonna be a zvz or something -__-
On March 31 2012 17:37 pyrogenetix wrote: no bisu, no leta, no stats, bunch of faggot ass no name scrubs advance. I'm really sad.
and look at how many protoss advance. I think the protoss imba whining should shut the god damned fuck up right about now
User was warned for this post
lol chill man...
anyways, very surprised Roro got Bisu on lockdown, not easy beating sick his PvZ. Cant wait for Hiya's return too
I feel your anger man..
but maybe im slightly less pissed.. ;p
right, sorry for that, I'm just really pissed cuz this is probably the last OSL and all these players that actually represent the state of the game right now got eliminated.
feels almost like grand finals gonna be a zvz or something -__-
We will have Jangbi vs Stork and everything will be fine, until next year and another OSL.
Haha. I almost think that Bisu likes trolling his fans. Honestly surprised about Leta and Stats though... prelims always make me wonder if a Bo3 would lead to more reliable results.
On March 31 2012 22:23 ZeaL. wrote: Haha. I almost think that Bisu likes trolling his fans. Honestly surprised about Leta and Stats though... prelims always make me wonder if a Bo3 would lead to more reliable results.
Bisu so good ! Sure he got eliminated, but by roro i mean ... If sayle praises roro he must be really good !!! jk jk But seriously, is he trolling or what ?
On March 31 2012 22:23 ZeaL. wrote: Haha. I almost think that Bisu likes trolling his fans. Honestly surprised about Leta and Stats though... prelims always make me wonder if a Bo3 would lead to more reliable results.
While those are both upsets, I cannot say that I'm that surprised about Stats not making it because his play has been subpar in the playoffs and they took full advantage of that.
On March 31 2012 22:23 ZeaL. wrote: Haha. I almost think that Bisu likes trolling his fans. Honestly surprised about Leta and Stats though... prelims always make me wonder if a Bo3 would lead to more reliable results.
Prelims are Bo3 though, unless i misunderstood. yea, im surprised about Leta, although his games were not showed, and the zerg who beat him got out of his group. Stats got rushed by Rush, who also got out of his group
On March 31 2012 22:23 ZeaL. wrote: Haha. I almost think that Bisu likes trolling his fans. Honestly surprised about Leta and Stats though... prelims always make me wonder if a Bo3 would lead to more reliable results.
It's Bo3, rather unfortunately (for eliminated players)...
EPT
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EpGHr.jpg)
Bisu vs BYE
Ryul2 vs 
BByong![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Vb7Ci.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H4ZKH.jpg)
we can't post any fomos pictures because of the the damn confrontation between tl and fomos.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qxKLd.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Manifesto7/saviornadaSH3Finals/after1.jpg)
I thought Reach is preparing to go SC2 already. . ![[image loading]](http://i35.tinypic.com/w9ih5d.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.profilebrand.com/funny-pictures/category/cartoons/611_magikarp-kills-us-all.gif)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mweGt.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L7Iru.png)
