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shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
March 26 2012 02:26 GMT
#41
The ace might well be a ZvZ. Not even trolling.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
March 26 2012 02:36 GMT
#42
A three-peat would actually be pretty fun. Then again, this could be the last (half) season of SC1 Proleague. It would be nice to see the team with the greatest prestige triumph.
rslee
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada226 Posts
March 26 2012 02:47 GMT
#43
On March 26 2012 01:08 tryummm wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Nice spolier, now everyone knows it was 2-0.


The lack of an LR thread or any event on the right side bar is already spoiler enough...
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
March 26 2012 03:50 GMT
#44
On March 26 2012 03:12 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 03:08 Kiett wrote:
It's actually kind of interesting to see a reversal of the situation from last year. Previously, Coach Park would have wanted to set BeSt up against Flash in the hopes of sniping him (although I'll never be quite convinced that was a good idea), but now that BeSt has taken up the role of Bisu 2.0, avoiding Flash and taking out a zerg instead would be the ideal plan.

I say just sacrifice Hyuk or Soo to Flash and try to match up Fantasy vs Stats and it should never go to ace.


Never count out Hyuk against Flash. He's one of those unpredictable players that lose only to himself.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 26 2012 04:03 GMT
#45
GET HYUK'D SON!
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 26 2012 04:15 GMT
#46
On March 26 2012 11:23 Caladbolg wrote:
In terms of map choice, I think SKT is daring KT to field a Zerg. They'll probably prepare Bisu or Fantasy for the ace. So it's all up to KT to choose between logic (Zerg, maybe Hoejja), counter-logic (Protoss, Stats), or stick to the TRUTH: that Flash is still far and away the best BW player to have ever existed and it would be a travesty not to put the team on his shoulders for the final game of this year's proleague when he's been carrying KT all his life.

So there.

Flash vs Fantasy ace match incoming.


Even though KT zergs performance has been amazing so far, KT will not field a Z.
Bisu is the best PvZer ever, and Fantasy vs Z during playoffs, and especially ace games, is super scary because he can always come with the sickest bulds (see Fantasy vs JD, Fantasy vs Effort etc).

I see reaver play being quite strong on this map PvT, and Protoss can take expansions all around the map. If Flash is sent out, I think his build will be 1 rax FE into 1 fact 1 port, 1 wraith to prevent reaver harass, followed by a dropship (do not forget that the cliff at the natural is droppable, and the main mineral line can be hit by tanks dropped on the high ground behind).

Fantasy has not played a single game on NCR/CR, I do not believe he will be sent, and while he's in super shape, he is still the underdog against Flash's TvT, and probably the underdog against Stats on a difficult map like this one.

I am almost sure that the ace match will be Bisu vs Stats. If ace match there is !
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
March 26 2012 04:37 GMT
#47
Flash vs Fantasy with both cheesing. :D
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 04:48:02
March 26 2012 04:47 GMT
#48
I'm not much of a fan of NCR as a map, so seeing it played twice this match kind of makes me uneasy. I'm guessing SKT is going to bolster their zerg line-up and send them out on that map, but i have only so much faith in SKT's zerg line-up. T_T
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Pasargadae
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)173 Posts
March 26 2012 04:54 GMT
#49
Does anyone know the current payoffs?
rslee
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada226 Posts
March 26 2012 04:58 GMT
#50
The way I see it, SKT chose NCR because every other team during the playoffs has chosen Outlier. Now you're fooling yourself if you think Flash wasn't preparing something for that map so that he could be sent out during the Grand Finals had that map been chosen as the repeat. Now with NCR being thrown in, had KT expect Outlier, they are now at a disadvantage.

2 of the 3 potential Aces for SKT are NCR-ready and KT's main ace is not and he will either have to come up with something brilliant (which is possible) or they will have to said Stats.

Sending Stats, in my opinion, would be the better answer in my opinion because SKT hasn't sent Fantasy on NCR yet and to be honest, as an SKT fan, I'm a litter nervous with a Bisu or Best vs a NRC-ready Stats, or a vs NCR-ready protoss in general -_-;;

For SKT, get Bisu ready for a vP on NCR. Best could be sent but every team has a true ace and as much as I respect Best and Fantasy as reliable players, Bisu is their true Ace.

And to the person who suggested Flash vs Bisu on sniper ridge......................................................................... That would be the worst....
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
March 26 2012 05:25 GMT
#51
Such a stupid system, the ace match should be arbitrary instead of one team picking such a terrible map.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 26 2012 08:28 GMT
#52
Kind lame how it KTFlash will be reversed. Stats on Ace again? Probable, but still doubtful.

I wonder if this will be decided simply because SKT1 got to pick the ae match. The disadvantage is way way way way larger in a bo1 than a bo3
In the woods, there lurks..
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
March 26 2012 09:08 GMT
#53
On March 26 2012 14:25 Scarecrow wrote:
Such a stupid system, the ace match should be arbitrary instead of one team picking such a terrible map.


Then, what's the point of getting a higher place during the regular season?
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 26 2012 11:36 GMT
#54
On March 26 2012 18:08 ne4aJIb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 14:25 Scarecrow wrote:
Such a stupid system, the ace match should be arbitrary instead of one team picking such a terrible map.


Then, what's the point of getting a higher place during the regular season?

You get to rest and prepare builds for 1 team only. They just made a large advantage huge
In the woods, there lurks..
k.taeyang
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Peru145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 11:46:45
March 26 2012 11:45 GMT
#55
Yup. SKT got a chance if this doesn't go to ACE MATCH since Flash is so damn scary when handling pressure while SKT players... well choke a little too much (I guess Fantasy and Soo being the only exceptions). I predict SKT 4-1 or 4-2

Stats<soo
Flash>By. Sun
Wooki<Fantasy
Action<Bisu
Hoejja>Best

I don't know who for sixth map but I expect a mirror
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revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
March 26 2012 11:49 GMT
#56
It seems unlikely to me that KT fields anyone but Flash in the ace match of the finals, but I would have said the same thing about ace match KTvSamsung d1. If Flash comes out first I think it's a big tip of their hand to SKT that Flash is going to play the ace match.

I agree that the imbalance of PL regular season finish is way too high. Getting seeded directly into finals is insane, let alone getting seeded into finals and they get to pick 2 maps! I'm not just saying this because I'm a KT fan, KT benefitted from the seed into finals 2 years ago and I disagreed with it then. PL needs to do a more traditional playoff. They can keep the higher seed gets to pick ace match if they force all the teams to play the same number of games. That way there is no doubt that finishing well is rewarding, but at the same time doesn't give the 1st place team a ~55% chance to win the finals.
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
March 26 2012 16:48 GMT
#57
Or they could do map selection as the starleagues do. Give the top team a thumbs-down vote for a map so it doesn't come out twice. I do believe that was the old system anyway. Giving a team choice for ace match map just diminishes the fun.
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S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
March 26 2012 16:52 GMT
#58
chain reaction on ace... interesting to see how flash play if he is send into ace!
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dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
March 26 2012 16:52 GMT
#59
(Z)Crazy-Hydra Neo Chain Reaction (P)Bisu
(Z)Action Ground Zero (T)Fantasy
(P)Stats Jade (P)By.Sun
(T)Flash Sniper Ridge (P)BeSt
(Z)HoeJJa Neo Outlier (Z)n.Die_soO
(T)Mind Neo Electric Circuit (Z)Hyuk
(T)Flash Neo Chain Reaction (T)Fantasy
This is the way
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
March 26 2012 17:16 GMT
#60
On March 27 2012 01:52 quien wrote:
(Z)Crazy-Hydra Neo Chain Reaction (P)Bisu
(Z)Action Ground Zero (T)Fantasy
(P)Stats Jade (P)By.Sun
(T)Flash Sniper Ridge (P)BeSt
(Z)HoeJJa Neo Outlier (Z)n.Die_soO
(T)Mind Neo Electric Circuit (Z)Hyuk
(T)Flash Neo Chain Reaction (T)Fantasy



A TvT on Neo Chain reaction might be the most ridiculous game ever, you can practically start sieging the other person's main and natural from any direction
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