• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:43
CET 09:43
KST 17:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump0Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Foreign Brood War Data analysis on 70 million replays MBCGame Torrents
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1663 users

Help a Starcraft 2 fan follow ProLeague - Page 3

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 17 2011 02:56 GMT
#41
On November 17 2011 07:38 Witten wrote:
I pretty much only watch games of my favorite players, which pretty much consists of Neo.G Soulkey and Bisu.


Now this is a man I can support!!

Bisu is pretty cool too.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 17 2011 03:00 GMT
#42
I was drawn to SKT(Fantasy) until I saw the light(Jaedong), take some time before you pick a team to support.

Which team you pick will not only affect your spectator experience but also your posting on the BW forums, cause we all know the evil empire(s) need to be brought down.
WriterXiao8~~
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
November 17 2011 03:08 GMT
#43
the OGN commentators are the best in the business, a lot of the amazing clips are well complimented by their energy (and the fans'!), they're hella funny which appeals to the korean viewers while their sheer energy appeals to people regardless of race and language

i agree on the power rank being great, they let you get a feel for the ups and downs of each individual player and the history of the dominance behind some of the current and past greats (if you see the streaks that jaedong was on, you might wonder how people don't consider him above flash at least historically until you see how much emphasis people put on the sheer amount of DOMINANCE flash had during his peak, this coming from a JD fan) and lets you learn some of the bigger names in BW relatively quickly. The games that are linked in power ranks are also of good quality at least relevant to the players that they are linked to.
Hey! Listen!
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
November 17 2011 03:11 GMT
#44
get woongjin stars, it's the best team, i promise.

you may as well become a fan of (T)hOn_sin, he's the new woongjin terran (they're renowned by their excellence)

you even can follow him on twitter
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 17 2011 03:53 GMT
#45
play some bw before stream starts and feel how hard the game is then watch the games and become amazed by how perfect every single one of the progamers are. then see bisu jaedong flash stork come out and rape everyone else under them. oh and fantasy gg timing
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
November 17 2011 03:58 GMT
#46
You'll want to follow this thread, it'll be updated with everything related to Proleague. Interviews/news/LR/games and results.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283834
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 03:59:36
November 17 2011 03:58 GMT
#47
FPVods are also really exciting to watch. They definitely give you a headache to start off with, but it helps you know how insanely skilled these players are and appreciate the games more. Although sometimes OGN will show brief first-person shots of the players playing during the games.

You might want to listen to how Tastosis were back in the day.



Or you can also watch Hiya's stream :D

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282850

Like others have said, definitely follow the LR threads during the games, its not only informative (sometimes), but also hilarious.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 17 2011 04:20 GMT
#48
There's only two teams you should support SKT1 and the Dream Team

Everything else is irrelevant
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
November 17 2011 04:49 GMT
#49
On November 17 2011 13:20 Dakkas wrote:
There's only two teams you should support SKT1 and the Dream Team

Everything else is irrelevant


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/274_Shinhan09-10_Proleague
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/710_Shinhan10-11_Proleague

are you trying to lead him to the kkong line?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 17 2011 04:51 GMT
#50
On November 17 2011 04:50 rotinegg wrote:
People will stream proleague matches on the right-hand-side bar. You can also watch past PL matches in the small vod section or nevake's channel on youtube. Look out for moments like these:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpuv7VPb2rA









I love you.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 17 2011 05:08 GMT
#51
On November 17 2011 13:49 jlim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 13:20 Dakkas wrote:
There's only two teams you should support SKT1 and the Dream Team

Everything else is irrelevant


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/274_Shinhan09-10_Proleague
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/710_Shinhan10-11_Proleague

are you trying to lead him to the kkong line?


WINNING ISN'T EVERYTHING!!!!
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
November 17 2011 05:31 GMT
#52
On November 17 2011 13:20 Dakkas wrote:
There's only two teams you should support SKT1 and the Dream Team

Everything else is irrelevant


I stopped supporting SKT when I realised I only supported Bisu :D



Im now a Team 8 / CJ Fan. Eff0rt fighting!
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 08:49:11
November 17 2011 05:32 GMT
#53
I only started following mid 2010, but I found that the viewing experience was greatly enhanced by having storylines to follow. Each of the teams has a rich history, which a new viewer can glean from articles such as [CJ] Face the Future or Masters of the Universe. I think the best place to find this stuff is in the Final Edits section, or reading all the "Why team X will win Proleague".

Obviously I'm quite a new viewer, but these are the storylines that I attach to each team (Please excuse the inevitable factual errors):

Airforce ACE:

ACE is the perpetual underdog team, composed of "washed up" players who started their military service. The most famous of these is of course (T)BoxeR himself, and nowadays (T)Iris and (T)firebathero. An extra bonus is that that some ACE players undergo a rebirth and they perform well above expectation, or even better than they used to. (Z)ggaemo is a (Z)great example of this.
Anyway, who doesn't like rooting for the underdog. ACE players are never the favourite when they plays (unless you're incredibly biased), but when all the odds are stacked against you, truly epic games can occur.

Notable Past Players: (T)BoxeR, (Z)YellOw, (P)Reach
Notable Current Players: (T)firebathero, (Z)ggaemo, (T)Iris, (P)Kal, (Z)great

TLDR: Watch them to see "old" players get a second shot at stardom and to watch great upsets.

CJ Entus:

CJ Entus is an incredibly deep team, with generations of top players and a zerg line. It's got some of the most entertaining players ((T)Leta, (P)Horang2) and some of the best players ((Z)Hydra, (Z)EffOrt). Almost all of their talent is homegrown, and the story of their early days is quite awesome ([CJ] Face the Future). It's also fun to see each successive generation strive to do better.

Notable Past Players: (T)XellOs, (T)Iris
Notable Current Players: (Z)EffOrt, (Z)Hydra, (T)Leta, (P)Horang2, (P)Snow

TLDR: great players, great history

KT Rolster:

KT is of course the current champion, and has the greatest player of all time, R̶e̶a̶c̶h̶ (T)Flash. You can watch them just to see the best player show off his skills. The mortal KT players can also be quite interesting, as they are all inconsistent with flashes of brilliance. IMO KT has an interesting "redemptive" storyline. Along with SKT, they have the most money to throw around, which gives them the"evil corporate empire" image. However, for all their money and purchases, it's their homegrown players that have proven the most clutch. Also, they've got (P)Reach. and Flashcot, ruler of all.

Notable Past Players: (P)Nal_rA, (Z)YellOw, (Z)ChoJJa
Notable Current Players: (T)Flash, (P)Stats, (P)Violet, (Z)HoeJJa, (P)Reach

TLDR: Best player, interesting team

Samsung KHAN:

If you like Protoss (the race in general, not (P)Bisu), you should probably follow KHAN, They've got an incredible Protoss lineup, with both (P)Stork and (P)JangBi. They've also got a (Z)coach who makes very interesting decisions, which can be fun to watch too.

Notable Past Players: (T)firebathero, (Z)sigamari
Notable Current Players: (P)Stork, (P)JangBi, (P)Grape, (T)TurN, (T)Reality

TLDR: STOOORRKUUUU!!!!!! JAANGGGBBIIIII!!!!

SK Telecom T1:

The Emperor's Empire, SKT is a powerhouse. They are the most accomplished and popular team, and are the favourites everytime they play. They've also got (P)Bisu. If you thought (P)Artosis' hype of (Z)NesTea was bad, you should see what some people think of (P)Bisu. SKT vs KT live reports can be very interesting reads. They've also got a cool mascot and the cutest fangirl

Notable Past Players: (T)BoxeR, (T)iloveoov, (P)RainBOw, (P)Kingdom
Notable Current Players: (P)Bisu, (T)Fantasy, Best, (P)Paralyze, (Z)Hyuk

TLDR: Winningest team, (P)Bisu, Bunkie

STX SouL:

Not much to say, unfortunately. STX SouL has fallen on tough times recently. Watch to see if some of the most inventive players can pull through and make this team good.

Notable Past Players: (Z)July, (P)Kal
Notable Current Players: (T)Bogus, (Z)Calm, (P)Shuttle, (T)ToSsGirL

Woongjin Stars:

Woongjin zergs are awesome to watch. (Z)ZerO made the Queen viable, and the team is probably the most practised in ZvZ hive play. Their team also has this ridiculous bromance, which makes reading their interviews very entertaining. They're also pretty good at B M.

Notable Past Players: (Z)GGPlay
Notable Current Players: (Z)ZerO, (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey, (T)Light, (P)free

TLDR: Entertaining Zergs, entertaining interviews

Team 8:

Team 8 is a dream team, make no mistake about it. They have the aces of 3 teams, including the greatest zerg ever, (Z)Jaedong and proleague bonjwa (T)Sea Just reading the articles about the team can cause nerd chills.

Notable Current Players: (Z)Jaedong, (Z)Killer, (T)BaBy, (T)Sea, (P)Jaehoon

TLDR: Watch to see the dawn of a new contender to the throne.
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
November 17 2011 05:33 GMT
#54
Learn to love bisu
Don't pick any other team but SKT!!!!!
MiXyass DjLadyDana SoftSoap RightClick DigicidaL l)H[Zodiak] 58^^
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 05:54:43
November 17 2011 05:47 GMT
#55
On November 17 2011 14:32 juff wrote:
Samsung KHAN:

If you like Protoss (the race in general, not (P)Bisu), you should probably follow KHAN, They've got an incredible Protoss lineup, with both (P)Stork and (P)JangBi. They've also got a (Z)coach who makes very interesting decisions, which can be fun to watch too.



Wow you wrote that down really well! Much better than a lot of more experienced fans would have written/known.

That said in terms of proleague I feel that SKT has the beefiest protoss line-up. Bisu PvZ god (although his PvT was 100% winrate last winners league iirc) and proleague powerhouse, Best PvT sniper, By.Sun promising rookie Protoss player. Having both Bisu and Best means SKT can reliably pick one of these guys to win them any matchup. Jangbi and Stork are both really good PvT, but their PvP and PvZ are a bit shaky at times.

I definitely follow Khan for the rookies though. TurN and Reality are both really fun to watch. TurN with the BoxeR style aggression and strategic risky openers, Reality with crisp strategies overall. If these two guys combined, you would have Neo BoxeR.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220358

Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
November 17 2011 05:56 GMT
#56
SKT is a little more than just bisu. SKT has the largest variety of play in the league. Everything from multitask bisu, to maco best, to sun who splits the difference, to paralyze who doesn't get to play enough because we have too many good players, but has some entertaining games of his own. soo has a defensive style, s2 has an offensive style, hyuk has a WTF style, and ssak always has some crazy build every time he is sent. And fantasy probably has the widest variety of play of any player, certainly of players of such a high caliber.

The people who are SKT fans above bisu fans may be the minority, but SKT would still be a dynamic team without him.

Oh, and the flashcot is definitely NOT a reason to support KT. That thing is scary, and causes small children to cry.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
November 17 2011 06:09 GMT
#57
On November 17 2011 14:56 hacklebeast wrote:
SKT is a little more than just bisu. SKT has the largest variety of play in the league. Everything from multitask bisu, to maco best, to sun who splits the difference, to paralyze who doesn't get to play enough because we have too many good players, but has some entertaining games of his own. soo has a defensive style, s2 has an offensive style, hyuk has a WTF style, and ssak always has some crazy build every time he is sent. And fantasy probably has the widest variety of play of any player, certainly of players of such a high caliber.

The people who are SKT fans above bisu fans may be the minority, but SKT would still be a dynamic team without him.

Oh, and the flashcot is definitely NOT a reason to support KT. That thing is scary, and causes small children to cry.


LOL Hyuk WTF style :D

Aww, but Flashcot is so cute.

[image loading]
Writer:o
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 17 2011 16:34 GMT
#58
Well, this morning at work I decided to select which team out of the following 8 I would cheer for:
[image loading]
So, naturally, I crumpled them all up into balls, put them into a container and shook them around.
[image loading]
After much deliberation, I reached in and pulled out:
+ Show Spoiler [The One Team TO RULE THEM ALL] +
[image loading]
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
November 17 2011 16:38 GMT
#59
On November 17 2011 12:53 alffla wrote:
fantasy gg timing


fantasy bio control
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 16:47:20
November 17 2011 16:42 GMT
#60
On November 17 2011 15:09 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 14:56 hacklebeast wrote:
SKT is a little more than just bisu. SKT has the largest variety of play in the league. Everything from multitask bisu, to maco best, to sun who splits the difference, to paralyze who doesn't get to play enough because we have too many good players, but has some entertaining games of his own. soo has a defensive style, s2 has an offensive style, hyuk has a WTF style, and ssak always has some crazy build every time he is sent. And fantasy probably has the widest variety of play of any player, certainly of players of such a high caliber.

The people who are SKT fans above bisu fans may be the minority, but SKT would still be a dynamic team without him.

Oh, and the flashcot is definitely NOT a reason to support KT. That thing is scary, and causes small children to cry.


LOL Hyuk WTF style :D

Aww, but Flashcot is so cute.

[image loading]

omfg its so creepy :f

i dont see why would you pick a team right now virgil, for me it took some time to actually feel something toward players/team

there are doom sayers, saying it will be last season or whatnot (who knows it may be, but nothing really says it will have to), take a time and choose with heart

for example for me the tipping point was Jangbi play, and i also liked stork for his position hes in, and his chaotic gameplan (sometimes), as you could see a slight sparks of brilliance in his "chaos", and Jangbi was the player i familiarized with during his run for OSL
Stork[gm]
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Railgan 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Pusan 935
Soma 253
PianO 173
Leta 148
910 136
Zeus 106
Light 77
Bale 68
Sharp 65
EffOrt 56
[ Show more ]
soO 34
yabsab 27
Noble 24
ZergMaN 20
zelot 18
NaDa 16
JulyZerg 15
Hm[arnc] 8
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm78
League of Legends
JimRising 519
C9.Mang0310
Reynor84
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss387
Other Games
summit1g10556
Mew2King108
Dewaltoss14
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
17m
Wardi Open
3h 17m
StarCraft2.fi
7h 17m
Monday Night Weeklies
8h 17m
Replay Cast
15h 17m
WardiTV 2025
1d 3h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 7h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 16h
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV 2025
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
WardiTV 2025
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Sziky vs JDConan
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs TBD
herO vs Zoun
WardiTV 2025
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Tarson vs DragOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Revival: Season 3
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.