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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 09 2011 02:21 GMT
#421
So now is all about the issue of salary ....
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
November 09 2011 02:30 GMT
#422
Ugh, 8 teams is not enough. STX should pick up Hiya, they're the only one I can think of who could really use him.
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
November 09 2011 02:45 GMT
#423
On November 09 2011 11:15 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote:
What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?


in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).

There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.


It was actually a 1/3 cut, so he'd be getting 2/3 of his former salary. He'd probably be outraged if they only offered him 1/3.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 09 2011 02:54 GMT
#424
On November 09 2011 11:45 Weedk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 11:15 N.geNuity wrote:
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote:
What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?


in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).

There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.


It was actually a 1/3 cut, so he'd be getting 2/3 of his former salary. He'd probably be outraged if they only offered him 1/3.


2/3 sounds like a decent deal in my opinion.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 09 2011 03:01 GMT
#425
On November 09 2011 11:09 Tru_m4n wrote:
Who's this "bee" that he keep mentioning?

(T)Bee
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
November 09 2011 03:14 GMT
#426
On November 09 2011 11:15 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote:
What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?


in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).

There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.


Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like he has no idea what he wants to do, since he said he would play SC2 all day long yesterday.

Also, a 1/3 reduction in salary seems like a slap in the face, especially since everyone except Jaedong got a raise.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
November 09 2011 03:22 GMT
#427
Looks like he's almost certainly gonna retire then. It surprises me that 2/3 of his original salary was enough to make him not want a team again, but I'm guessing he was already unhappy with his old salary and maybe he doesn't enjoy the life of a progamer.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 03:26:22
November 09 2011 03:25 GMT
#428
He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with (T)Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.

Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:

MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 04:07:29
November 09 2011 03:27 GMT
#429
On November 09 2011 12:22 Motivate wrote:
Looks like he's almost certainly gonna retire then. It surprises me that 2/3 of his original salary was enough to make him not want a team again, but I'm guessing he was already unhappy with his old salary and maybe he doesn't enjoy the life of a progamer.

His salary was $100k for 2 year.

$50k for 1 year.

2/3 would be $70k for 2 year?

$35k for 1 year?

definitely not good enough for HiyA.

To be honest,he has better chance for making more money in Starcraft 2.
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 03:40:59
November 09 2011 03:31 GMT
#430
tbh if he just keeps streaming for a year tht would be even more awesome, at least for me personally. You just can't see this level of play anywhere else since pros aren't allowed to stream. I guess his fans might be more upset.
edit: nvm im confused now. Does he wanna play or sc2 or not?
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 09 2011 03:39 GMT
#431
On November 09 2011 11:15 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote:
What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?


in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).

There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.



On November 09 2011 12:25 Clefairy wrote:
He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with (T)Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.

Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1ndbZKZkg



So which is which ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
blueblimp
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada297 Posts
November 09 2011 03:39 GMT
#432
On November 09 2011 12:25 Clefairy wrote:
He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with (T)Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.

Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1ndbZKZkg


Haha, this is awesome. Thanks for the subs.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 03:41:07
November 09 2011 03:40 GMT
#433
On November 09 2011 12:39 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 11:15 N.geNuity wrote:
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote:
What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?


in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).

There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.



Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 12:25 Clefairy wrote:
He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with (T)Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.

Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1ndbZKZkg



So which is which ?

He's not going to join any existing SC2 teams. He's just going to practice seriously and hopefully join a KeSPA team for SC2. They're the same.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
November 09 2011 03:51 GMT
#434
On November 09 2011 12:25 Clefairy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with (T)Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.


Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1ndbZKZkg

thanks a bunch for subbing. I can't believe I missed it, when I was still watching, it seemed like he wasn't interested in looking into the stream and it was pretty late so I went to bed. Arghhhhh now after watching that video I'm kicking myself. I love how everyone just went all mental the second he figured out how to make an account on twitch LOL. Hollywood fishking!
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
November 09 2011 03:52 GMT
#435
oh my god that video was amazing. XD you people who were there when it happened were so lucky!
Writer
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
November 09 2011 04:08 GMT
#436
THAT VIDEO IS SO LOL AND AWESOME . Great subs!!!!!!

hahahaahahh omg.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 09 2011 04:08 GMT
#437
On November 09 2011 12:52 Kiante wrote:
oh my god that video was amazing. XD you people who were there when it happened were so lucky!


was a thrill of a life time
i can only hope he joins in for more fun
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
November 09 2011 04:14 GMT
#438
Poor Draw... got shot down by hollywood karp. I can't believe I missed Hiya talking to TL! I am mad jealous, not even going to try to hide it.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 09 2011 04:21 GMT
#439
On November 09 2011 12:14 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 11:15 N.geNuity wrote:
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote:
What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?


in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).

There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.


Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like he has no idea what he wants to do, since he said he would play SC2 all day long yesterday.

Also, a 1/3 reduction in salary seems like a slap in the face, especially since everyone except Jaedong got a raise.

The articles only mentioned that members of the dream team got a raise. The rest who were drafted probably didn't. Hyun was on 20k and teams thought that was too expensive too.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 09 2011 04:22 GMT
#440
What song was playing in the background when he was talking about team liquid ?
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