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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 01:50:05
November 06 2011 01:48 GMT
#101
Why is Woongjin so underrated? Zero, Light, Soulkey? That's a beastly trifecta more that capable of standing their own against another big 3. Shy was amazing in the Dream League and was looking better every game in Proleague. Free is free, and if he gets back to form you get a top 10 Protoss with decent PvZ (such a rarity these days). Guemchi is re-adjusting but should be a solid 40% Protoss during normal Proleague, and a beastly all-killer during Winner's League. Hon_Sin will only improve with Light as Captain.

Their only true weakness this season has been the loss of Really (who was under performing quite a bit). They may not be as star-studded as SKT/KT/CJ/KeSPA but I'm pretty sure they'll contend for a playoff spot. And I do believe Zero is now a legitimate ace and perennial Starleague semifinalist.

(Oh, and SKT will be the champion this year. I feel it in my guts. They'll set the best record for an auto-spot in the finals, then KeSPA or CJ will eliminate KT, paving the way for SKT's triumphant win in the ace match with Bisu > Jaedong/Effort/Hydra)
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 06 2011 02:21 GMT
#102
dont know what gives ppl hopes effort will be a factor, he was never good to begin with
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
hakha
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia87 Posts
November 06 2011 02:50 GMT
#103
Anyone know when Proleague starts this yr?

Previously it started october-ish according to TLPD, but this yr u got all these Kespa issues and sc2 blah blah..so anyone got some idea when we get some BW action?
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
November 06 2011 02:51 GMT
#104
On November 06 2011 11:21 disciple wrote:
dont know what gives ppl hopes effort will be a factor, he was never good to begin with


he did win an OSL, unlike someone else who (despite being really good) hasn't.

I think CJ is looking scariest... even if EffOrt begins the season as second fiddle to Hydra, he's only gonna get better as he plays more. I hope the Dream Team gets some practice partners too.

Also ACE ACE ACE ACE won't get last... you just wait.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 06 2011 03:16 GMT
#105
On November 06 2011 11:51 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 11:21 disciple wrote:
dont know what gives ppl hopes effort will be a factor, he was never good to begin with


he did win an OSL, unlike someone else who (despite being really good) hasn't.

I think CJ is looking scariest... even if EffOrt begins the season as second fiddle to Hydra, he's only gonna get better as he plays more. I hope the Dream Team gets some practice partners too.

Also ACE ACE ACE ACE won't get last... you just wait.


Why does that some one sounds like (P)Bisu :D
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
November 06 2011 03:44 GMT
#106
#1 Ace
#2 Khan
#3 Dream Team
#4 CJ
#5 STX Soul
#6 Stars
#7 KT
#8 SKT
xD
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 06 2011 03:46 GMT
#107
On November 06 2011 12:44 RezChi wrote:
#1 Ace
#2 Khan
#3 Dream Team
#4 CJ
#5 STX Soul
#6 Stars
#7 KT
#8 SKT
xD


Samsung khan fan prediction T_T
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
November 06 2011 03:47 GMT
#108
On November 06 2011 12:46 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 12:44 RezChi wrote:
#1 Ace
#2 Khan
#3 Dream Team
#4 CJ
#5 STX Soul
#6 Stars
#7 KT
#8 SKT
xD


Samsung khan fan prediction T_T

Hey, Ace #1 man. That FBH i hear he gonna win it all this year.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 06 2011 03:51 GMT
#109
On November 06 2011 12:47 RezChi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 12:46 Sawamura wrote:
On November 06 2011 12:44 RezChi wrote:
#1 Ace
#2 Khan
#3 Dream Team
#4 CJ
#5 STX Soul
#6 Stars
#7 KT
#8 SKT
xD


Samsung khan fan prediction T_T

Hey, Ace #1 man. That FBH i hear he gonna win it all this year.


Ace cant rely on fbh only they need Kal,Great and GGaemo to stir things up a little if they want that top seat.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
November 06 2011 03:57 GMT
#110
On November 06 2011 12:51 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 12:47 RezChi wrote:
On November 06 2011 12:46 Sawamura wrote:
On November 06 2011 12:44 RezChi wrote:
#1 Ace
#2 Khan
#3 Dream Team
#4 CJ
#5 STX Soul
#6 Stars
#7 KT
#8 SKT
xD


Samsung khan fan prediction T_T

Hey, Ace #1 man. That FBH i hear he gonna win it all this year.


Ace cant rely on fbh only they need Kal,Great and GGaemo to stir things up a little if they want that top seat.

It's fine, look at KT. Once Flash started rolling over people everything just got dandy.
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
November 07 2011 13:07 GMT
#111
So I thought this was a good thread to ask in. The list on the right side is power rank right? Currently being: Bisu, Flash, ZerO, Jaedong... etc. And there is also a SC2 power rank then? I just can't seem to find the arguments of why the players are at that rank. I remember something on TL a month back or something about power rank being moved but since then I haven't seen it at all : (
I am Latedi.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
November 07 2011 13:08 GMT
#112
On November 07 2011 22:07 Latedi wrote:
So I thought this was a good thread to ask in. The list on the right side is power rank right? Currently being: Bisu, Flash, ZerO, Jaedong... etc. And there is also a SC2 power rank then? I just can't seem to find the arguments of why the players are at that rank. I remember something on TL a month back or something about power rank being moved but since then I haven't seen it at all : (

That's the elo rank. The power rank is under features, at the top.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
November 07 2011 13:13 GMT
#113
On November 07 2011 22:08 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 22:07 Latedi wrote:
So I thought this was a good thread to ask in. The list on the right side is power rank right? Currently being: Bisu, Flash, ZerO, Jaedong... etc. And there is also a SC2 power rank then? I just can't seem to find the arguments of why the players are at that rank. I remember something on TL a month back or something about power rank being moved but since then I haven't seen it at all : (

That's the elo rank. The power rank is under features, at the top.


Yay thanks ^^
I am Latedi.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
November 07 2011 13:16 GMT
#114
Hive zerg is not dead yet, Ace will whoop asses!
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
November 07 2011 13:28 GMT
#115
the dream team!
xd
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 13:33:10
November 07 2011 13:32 GMT
#116
On November 07 2011 22:08 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 22:07 Latedi wrote:
So I thought this was a good thread to ask in. The list on the right side is power rank right? Currently being: Bisu, Flash, ZerO, Jaedong... etc. And there is also a SC2 power rank then? I just can't seem to find the arguments of why the players are at that rank. I remember something on TL a month back or something about power rank being moved but since then I haven't seen it at all : (

That's the elo spoilers rank. The power rank is under features, at the top.

fixed
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
November 07 2011 13:36 GMT
#117
On November 07 2011 22:32 villageidiot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 22:08 kuroshiroi wrote:
On November 07 2011 22:07 Latedi wrote:
So I thought this was a good thread to ask in. The list on the right side is power rank right? Currently being: Bisu, Flash, ZerO, Jaedong... etc. And there is also a SC2 power rank then? I just can't seem to find the arguments of why the players are at that rank. I remember something on TL a month back or something about power rank being moved but since then I haven't seen it at all : (

That's the elo spoilers rank. The power rank is under features, at the top.

fixed

You can disable it... Don't be silly.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 07 2011 13:46 GMT
#118
On November 06 2011 00:41 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 00:25 lynx.oblige wrote:
Stats definitely underrated. Always loved dat Chintoss.


people called stats as a one hit wonder but what do you know .....

People love to forget that he had the 4th most wins in PL last year :p
I am also highly amused by how people forget how good stats and hoejja looked, in my eyes stats / hoejja / flash / mind > bisu, fantasy, rain, soo.

Maybe I am biased, but people heavily underrated consecutive champions.. not that I think it's gonna happen again though that'd be unrealistic.. but it would be hella fun
In the woods, there lurks..
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
November 07 2011 14:44 GMT
#119
On November 06 2011 12:44 RezChi wrote:
#1 Stars
#2 Ace
#3 Dream Team
#4 CJ
#5 STX Soul
#6 Khan
#7 KT
#8 SKT
xD


that would save Esports, fixed
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
November 09 2011 06:00 GMT
#120
My predictions for the regular season:

1. KT Rolster
2. CJ Entus
3. SK Telecom
4. KeSPA Team
5. Samsung Khan
6. Airforce ACE
7. STX Soul
8. Woongjin Stars
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