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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#141
***sGs now has a skype group! That way if people want to talk to people to set up games or be able to discuss games much more easily you can do so. Given the nature of skype you have to be added to the group, so just PM me or duncan.mc if you would like to be added***
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Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
October 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#142
sGs beef vs Sayle reaverbuild was just on his stream. m&m v toss is good and all, but not if the T is going reaver :D
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 23:59:43
October 17 2011 23:46 GMT
#143
Actually, with some better M&M micro you can possibly snipe the reaver and/or shuttle. It's a bit of a long shot, but going M&M vs toss is a bit of a longshot as it is (ie, your late game is mostly crap because of storm), so why not go all the way
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
October 17 2011 23:53 GMT
#144
Oh, this is definitely being joined
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 00:02:16
October 18 2011 00:00 GMT
#145
On October 18 2011 06:13 Skeggaba wrote:
sGs beef vs Sayle reaverbuild was just on his stream. m&m v toss is good and all, but not if the T is going reaver :D

It's good in early game cheeses/allins(deep 6 etc) but other than that its really pretty awful

late game the big gate way balls(even if you survive the early reavers) will rip mnm apart for cost

also; im not sure if ive posted in this thread but, on ICCup im mG.arb (C high) if any of you wanna play some games just message me!
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 18 2011 00:11 GMT
#146
On October 18 2011 06:13 Skeggaba wrote:
sGs beef vs Sayle reaverbuild was just on his stream. m&m v toss is good and all, but not if the T is going reaver :D

Not if you've got ForGG macro :o

Remember his game in the MSL he won? :p
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W00tbeer1
Profile Joined August 2011
United States33 Posts
October 18 2011 01:52 GMT
#147
On October 18 2011 05:20 L_Master wrote:
***sGs now has a skype group! That way if people want to talk to people to set up games or be able to discuss games much more easily you can do so. Given the nature of skype you have to be added to the group, so just PM me or duncan.mc if you would like to be added***


Nice, I was wondering how to access the Skype group which the OP stated.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 18 2011 04:00 GMT
#148
On October 18 2011 09:11 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:13 Skeggaba wrote:
sGs beef vs Sayle reaverbuild was just on his stream. m&m v toss is good and all, but not if the T is going reaver :D

Not if you've got ForGG macro :o

Remember his game in the MSL he won? :p


Just watched that. Shit that was fun to watch.
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Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
October 19 2011 06:09 GMT
#149
ok i'm wondering if this is just how BW is or is my keyboard bad ($10 logitech)

2 examples)

1) when playing zerg, lets say in the beginning of the game i want to build 1 drone and then send my guys to minerals. so i hit hatch hit sd then send drones to mine. 9/10 times it does not register that i built a drone and i have to do it like somewhat slowly for it to actually register. also, if i hit 5sd6sd7sd somewhat fast (i KNOW i'm not mis-clicking) almost every time one of the hatches don't register that i built something from the larva...

2) say i have units on 1,2,3,4. i want them to all go somewhere, so i hit 1a2a3a4a. once again, i know i did not missclick. a LOT of times, one of the control groups does not register that i told them to move and they sit there doing nothing, and i have to find out what group didnt go and then send them to go.

is this how BW is or is my keyboard just having a problem with me doing too many commands at once??
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
zappa372
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Chile365 Posts
October 19 2011 06:14 GMT
#150
On October 19 2011 15:09 Silidons wrote:
ok i'm wondering if this is just how BW is or is my keyboard bad ($10 logitech)

2 examples)

1) when playing zerg, lets say in the beginning of the game i want to build 1 drone and then send my guys to minerals. so i hit hatch hit sd then send drones to mine. 9/10 times it does not register that i built a drone and i have to do it like somewhat slowly for it to actually register. also, if i hit 5sd6sd7sd somewhat fast (i KNOW i'm not mis-clicking) almost every time one of the hatches don't register that i built something from the larva...

2) say i have units on 1,2,3,4. i want them to all go somewhere, so i hit 1a2a3a4a. once again, i know i did not missclick. a LOT of times, one of the control groups does not register that i told them to move and they sit there doing nothing, and i have to find out what group didnt go and then send them to go.

is this how BW is or is my keyboard just having a problem with me doing too many commands at once??


Some keyboards do that ghosting thing if you type too fast. Also, it could be due to lag.
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dySpHoRia.
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 15:35:25
October 19 2011 15:33 GMT
#151
Ok definitely not gonna be playing with this clan lol, theres a problem with accepting anyone who applies. its a good idea but you get a clan filled with bmers.

just played a pvt against sgs.ouzo, he obviously had no idea what he was doing and just turtled on 3base with 12931293810 tanks and turrets. so i just expanded everywhere and suicided my army into him over and over until he ran out of army/money. he proceeded to lift as many buildings as he could, hide them everywhere, and build shit all over the map to make me go find it. im actually still looking for his last (?) hidden building now lol.

what a sore loser..

edit: figured id contribute something while i post

On October 19 2011 15:14 zappa372 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 15:09 Silidons wrote:
ok i'm wondering if this is just how BW is or is my keyboard bad ($10 logitech)

2 examples)

1) when playing zerg, lets say in the beginning of the game i want to build 1 drone and then send my guys to minerals. so i hit hatch hit sd then send drones to mine. 9/10 times it does not register that i built a drone and i have to do it like somewhat slowly for it to actually register. also, if i hit 5sd6sd7sd somewhat fast (i KNOW i'm not mis-clicking) almost every time one of the hatches don't register that i built something from the larva...

2) say i have units on 1,2,3,4. i want them to all go somewhere, so i hit 1a2a3a4a. once again, i know i did not missclick. a LOT of times, one of the control groups does not register that i told them to move and they sit there doing nothing, and i have to find out what group didnt go and then send them to go.

is this how BW is or is my keyboard just having a problem with me doing too many commands at once??


Some keyboards do that ghosting thing if you type too fast. Also, it could be due to lag.


this is ghosting for sure. my keyboard does it too, cant be bothered to go get a better one. so as a toss player i have to 1a2a3a4a5a really slowly or half my control groups get ghosted and dont go. but its ok because all us toss players do are 1a2a3a4a5a>win anyways
hi im enrico
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
October 19 2011 17:50 GMT
#152
Madness.
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
October 19 2011 19:55 GMT
#153
On October 20 2011 00:33 dySpHoRia. wrote:
Ok definitely not gonna be playing with this clan lol, theres a problem with accepting anyone who applies. its a good idea but you get a clan filled with bmers.

Seriously, I'm surprised people haven't caught on about it. Accepting people of all skill works but you have to do it MB style and actually get to know the people before they join. If you just let people apply and join you'll get that issue and die pretty fast, as seen with npnl, hon/bsg(old bsg), a51 etc...
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 19 2011 21:32 GMT
#154
On October 20 2011 00:33 dySpHoRia. wrote:
just played a pvt against sgs.ouzo, he obviously had no idea what he was doing and just turtled on 3base with 12931293810 tanks and turrets. so i just expanded everywhere and suicided my army into him over and over until he ran out of army/money.



This in and of itself is fine, as sGs is meant for people off all skills levels, especially those that are very new to the game.

he proceeded to lift as many buildings as he could, hide them everywhere, and build shit all over the map to make me go find it. im actually still looking for his last (?) hidden building now lol.

what a sore loser..


This however, is not. You raise a very good point.

I'm actually not sure how to handle this. Getting to know everyone personally would be great, but when your getting 10+ join requests per day I'm not really sure that is feasible.

I'd be interested in hearing peoples feedback on this issue.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
October 19 2011 22:31 GMT
#155
Instead of having them just creating an account and applying to join(lol so easy to smurf) have them actually contact a leader and talk about random stuff(how long been playing highest rank w/e) and I'm sure you can get a feel of what type of person they are. Obviously this won't give uber deep insight in their inner personalities but you get the point.
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11340 Posts
October 20 2011 00:12 GMT
#156
Hm, I don't know. Because it gets difficult having to having to make all these judgment calls on whether a person had a reasonable chance of winning on a base trade vs just being a poor loser (though dySpHoRia's case seems pretty cut and dry.)

I suppose at the bare minimum some sort of sGs code of conduct/ manner expectations could be posted somewhere/ messaged to new members. It would at least clear out possible assumptions or complete ignorance on BW etiquette.

Maybe a contact person to report out of line players? Seems an unfortunate hassle to deal with, but it would be a shame if the sGs's goal of getting more newbies to play is derailed by a poor reputation. I don't really have a good solution.
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CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
October 20 2011 00:21 GMT
#157
The big reason he's posting that is because the guy lifted all his buildings and hid them
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 01:26:15
October 20 2011 01:25 GMT
#158
I haven't ran into anyone who was BM to me yet, everyone has been really nice so far...you didn't incite anything did you?

If there are various reports of the same person being BM to fellow clan mates then I don't see why he wouldn't be removed and/or had a nice talking to to shape him up.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 03:30:07
October 20 2011 03:26 GMT
#159
On October 20 2011 10:25 Silidons wrote:
I haven't ran into anyone who was BM to me yet, everyone has been really nice so far...you didn't incite anything did you?

If there are various reports of the same person being BM to fellow clan mates then I don't see why he wouldn't be removed and/or had a nice talking to to shape him up.


Definitely some sort of extremely low tolerance/zero tolerance on excessive BM is good and should be implemented. Now if someone does this out of frustration a line or two at the end of a game that's one thing, but nonsense like lifting building, continued harass, verbal abuse, etc is definitely no tolerance stuff.

Smurfing should be pretty easy to deal with, I mean once a person gets even like 5-1 or 8-3 or something its pretty obvious that they are much better than what we want. They either volunteer to help as a coach or they're gone. If there willing to stay at low D to smurf random noobs...well I don't even know why someone would want to do that in the first place.

I suppose at the bare minimum some sort of sGs code of conduct/ manner expectations could be posted somewhere/ messaged to new members. It would at least clear out possible assumptions or complete ignorance on BW etiquette.


Definitely. I will be writing this up and making this clear soon.

Maybe a contact person to report out of line players? Seems an unfortunate hassle to deal with, but it would be a shame if the sGs's goal of getting more newbies to play is derailed by a poor reputation. I don't really have a good solution.


Something like this could work, or just making it explicitly stated that members should immediately inform one of us leaders about excessive BM or other unacceptable behavior. I'd rather sort through some "tattle tales" than have people have to deal with assholes/BMers.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
dySpHoRia.
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 10:55:55
October 20 2011 10:53 GMT
#160
On October 20 2011 09:12 Falling wrote:
Hm, I don't know. Because it gets difficult having to having to make all these judgment calls on whether a person had a reasonable chance of winning on a base trade vs just being a poor loser (though dySpHoRia's case seems pretty cut and dry.)

I suppose at the bare minimum some sort of sGs code of conduct/ manner expectations could be posted somewhere/ messaged to new members. It would at least clear out possible assumptions or complete ignorance on BW etiquette.

Maybe a contact person to report out of line players? Seems an unfortunate hassle to deal with, but it would be a shame if the sGs's goal of getting more newbies to play is derailed by a poor reputation. I don't really have a good solution.


yeah, at first it waas understandable because he was just turtling hard and i was just suiciding army over and over until his turtle broke. so i can understand staying in the game for a little while. but he did lift his buildings and hide shit everywhere which is kinda lame.

its not a big deal lol i dont really care, im just letting you know cuz its your clan and all. i dont recall doing anything to provoke this, i hardly ever take during games and i very, very, very rarely bm anymore about anything.

edit: i dont think this guy deserves to be punished though, unless its happening over and over again. everyones done something like that before, losing can be frustrating, especially long games. just saying lol.
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