On June 23 2011 11:14 OpticalShot wrote: Jaedong: "I'll unleash my fiery desires in the games to come."
Hwaseung's ace Jaedong stated that he'll "flourish like bright flames" in the starleague stages ahead. Now that he's overcome the initial challenge of being the same dual tournament group as Flash, he said that "I felt a special desire inside of me and that's why I advanced with 2 wins." He also added, "I haven't won a title in a while so I'll make it happen in this starleague."
Q: You advanced to the Ro16 with 2 wins. A: I emptied my mind before arriving here. Couldn't practice much in the past few days. Advancing with 2 wins out of this group, I have to say that I got pretty lucky. Feels good to advance, of course. I told myself to just stick with the basics, and good results followed.
Q: You beat Bogus with ease in set 1. A: 'New Bloody Ridge' is a pretty good map for ZvT so I'd say the map pool and order worked in my favour. I wasn't very familiar with the map 'Gladiator' so I mainly practiced on that map. Now that I look at it, I hit the right point in terms of practice. If the sets carried onto 'La Mancha', well then, I would have just let the heavens decide.
Q: In set 2, you faced Flash - for the 51st time. There were some shaky moments in the game. A: First of all, Flash played a tremendous game. For me, I had a large advantage by mid-game so I chose the safest path to victory. Flash played well but I had such a big advantage from the beginning.
Q: Last season, you fell out at the Ro16. Goals for this season? A: Lately my individual league results have been sub-par. When I first saw the dual tournament groups I sighed... but now that I've advanced out of it, I gained a lot of confidence. It's been a long time since I raised a trophy so this time, my goal is to win the title.
Q: Your team is facing a crucial stretch in the proleague. How will you prioritize your time? A: For now the practice focus is on proleague. Now that I've advanced cleanly out of the starleague dual tournament, a big load has been shed. I'll take the confidence and momentum boost from today for the upcoming proleague matches.
Q: Any last words? A: Thanks to all the fans who came out despite the bad weather. It's been quite a while since the last starleague match so I felt refreshed. Before the games began today, I felt that inner desire. I'll keep this for a long time and show everyone how passionate I am. Our team is facing a crucial stretch that will determine our fate regarding the proleague post-season, and we hope to finish with good results. Today was an off-day but Bee and Speed stayed behind to help me practice, so thanks a bunch!
On June 23 2011 11:45 OpticalShot wrote: Flash: "Trying to prioritize rehabilitation of my arm"
All day, people could tell from the facial expressions that KT Rolster's ace, Flash, was uncomfortable at the least. After the end of a game, the camera caught him holding his right arm and grimacing. As released on press earlier in the year, there were problems with his arm. It seems now that it's gotten worse. Flash plans to get an MRI on it and prioritize treatment and rehabilitation afterwards. Despite this, Flash continued his consecutive starleague appearance streak today.
Q: First thought on making it to the starleague group stage? A: I'm happy to have made it. If I lost and fell out of the starleague dual tournament today, I would have to climb all the way from the preliminaries next season. I will not repeat the mistakes I made last season.
Q: You won easily in set 1. A: I knew that I would advance out of the group if I clenched set 1.
Q: Did you know for sure you would be fine against Bogus and HyuN? A: To be honest I wasn't too confident, because I didn't have the amount of practice I would normally have. When I saw the groups get sorted out, I knew I would be ok in my group. Advancing with a 2-1 record isn't the best case scenario, but at the end I advanced and I shall be happy with that.
Q: You played intensely in the winners' set. A: I wasn't able to hold my mouse properly at times because of my arm. With physical conditions bothering me, I couldn't quite focus fully in the game. I still tried my best until the end so that I can be ready for the final set.
Q: How bad is the injury/illness? A: I started receiving treatment yesterday. In two days I'll go get an MRI. My doctor told me that the nerves aren't damaged and the problem is only in my muscles, so I suppose it's not as bad as it could have been. Still I have trouble loosening my arm muscles after they get super tense. Doctor told me that I should be ok to continue my career as a progamer after the treatment. For now, I plan to prioritize treatment and rehabilitation over tournaments and gaming.
Q: So did you fully regain your game focus in the final set? A: Not really. Even in the final set I didn't feel like I was in full control. After two weeks of treatment, I should be able to show my usual form in the games. Our organization have done its best in finding me the best possible medical help.
Q: Goal for this starleague? A: I haven't settled on one yet. Lately I've been depressed - somewhat because I've been losing a lot, but more so because I'm worried about my arm/hand. I'll do what I can for this starleague. My team also reminded me that this season isn't the end of the world and I have to continue my career so I should focus on the treatment.
Q: Any last words? A: First of all, thanks to the managers and coaches for connecting me to the best rehabilitation center available in this country. I was pretty depressed lately due to the injury/illness but I regained belief after seeing the doctor there. Special thanks to Head Coach Lee and Mr. Kim from the organization. I'll do my part in the rehabilitation process so that I can be a true ace player for KT Rolster in the post-season. I hope the fans won't worry too much.
Flash played very well, I'm astonished. My luck was very good in this game, and during the midgame I was in a practically unlosable position. Because I had such a big advantage, I thought if I played it calmly and safely I would be able to take the win but Flash still had a lot left. It was only due to my earlier advantages that I managed to win in the end.
Very true, due to his earlier advantages in the game he was able to win, Flash was so behind but still was able to produce alot of stuff while being stuck for so long on 2-3 bases, but Flash was only able to pressure Jaedong once and from that point onward Jaedong had an advantage.
I do hope that Jaedong can regain his edge in ZvZ though, which could be tough seeing as there is Calm who is seeded, and he is by no means an easy ZvZ opponent to beat.
Jaedong for gold!.
PS: Hawaainpigs hype post actually is true!.
Also, I have proof that Lee Sang Rok brings all the Qts to the yard + Show Spoiler +
Why yes this is slightly disturbing that I post this :>.
Thank you for interview. Nice of JD that he is so polite, though he admits that he hadn't practices much. I hope Flash's interview is similar in that regard.
Funny to hear him say that he advanced without practice and mostly on mechanics. Such a beast lol, especially considering that Flash and Bogus aren't really pushovers.
Aaand Jaedong's zvt for the year hits 80% wins. I'm pretty sure he stopped practicing the other matchups because he knows he'll face Flash in the finals.
On June 23 2011 05:31 Deletrious wrote: Aaand Jaedong's zvt for the year hits 80% wins. I'm pretty sure he stopped practicing the other matchups because he knows he'll face Flash in the finals.
Jaedong is saying Flash played well after the 7 pool vs 8 rax shenanigans which put Flash way behind because he was in the 11 spawn and marines spawned outside his wall.
The bottom of the original interview that was posted here said: Source is wfbrood which posted it from PlaySC, which for some reason is not loading in my netbook browser so if anyone knows for sure that this is Fomos content, drop me a PM and I'll remove it.
Sorry guys, turns out the PlaySC interview was from Fomos which afaik makes it so I can't post it here. Hopefully a KR translator can get the DES one, please PM me if you do so I can put it here and not have an empty cocktease of an OP
I'll check sources more completely before posting next time, my bad ><
edit again: all chinese sources apparently are using fomos atm so please don't translate from them thanks
Jaedong: "I'll unleash my fiery desires in the games to come."
Hwaseung's ace Jaedong stated that he'll "flourish like bright flames" in the starleague stages ahead. Now that he's overcome the initial challenge of being the same dual tournament group as Flash, he said that "I felt a special desire inside of me and that's why I advanced with 2 wins." He also added, "I haven't won a title in a while so I'll make it happen in this starleague."
Q: You advanced to the Ro16 with 2 wins. A: I emptied my mind before arriving here. Couldn't practice much in the past few days. Advancing with 2 wins out of this group, I have to say that I got pretty lucky. Feels good to advance, of course. I told myself to just stick with the basics, and good results followed.
Q: You beat Bogus with ease in set 1. A: 'New Bloody Ridge' is a pretty good map for ZvT so I'd say the map pool and order worked in my favour. I wasn't very familiar with the map 'Gladiator' so I mainly practiced on that map. Now that I look at it, I hit the right point in terms of practice. If the sets carried onto 'La Mancha', well then, I would have just let the heavens decide.
Q: In set 2, you faced Flash - for the 51th time. There were some shaky moments in the game. A: First of all, Flash played a tremendous game. For me, I had a large advantage by mid-game so I chose the safest path to victory. Flash played well but I had such a big advantage from the beginning.
Q: Last season, you fell out at the Ro16. Goals for this season? A: Lately my individual league results have been sub-par. When I first saw the dual tournament groups I sighed... but now that I've advanced out of it, I gained a lot of confidence. It's been a long time since I raised a trophy so this time, my goal is to win the title.
Q: Your team is facing a crucial stretch in the proleague. How will you prioritize your time? A: For now the practice focus is on proleague. Now that I've advanced cleanly out of the starleague dual tournament, a big load has been shed. I'll take the confidence and momentum boost from today for the upcoming proleague matches.
Q: Any last words? A: Thanks to all the fans who came out despite the bad weather. It's been quite a while since the last starleague match so I felt refreshed. Before the games began today, I felt that inner desire. I'll keep this for a long time and show everyone how passionate I am. Our team is facing a crucial stretch that will determine our fate regarding the proleague post-season, and we hope to finish with good results. Today was an off-day but Bee and Speed stayed behind to help me practice, so thanks a bunch!
Flash: "Trying to prioritize rehabilitation of my arm"
All day, people could tell from the facial expressions that KT Rolster's ace, Flash, was uncomfortable at the least. After the end of a game, the camera caught him holding his right arm and grimacing. As released on press earlier in the year, there were problems with his arm. It seems now that it's gotten worse. Flash plans to get an MRI on it and prioritize treatment and rehabilitation afterwards. Despite this, Flash continued his consecutive starleague appearance streak today.
Q: First thought on making it to the starleague group stage? A: I'm happy to have made it. If I lost and fell out of the starleague dual tournament today, I would have to climb all the way from the preliminaries next season. I will not repeat the mistakes I made last season.
Q: You won easily in set 1. A: I knew that I would advance out of the group if I clenched set 1.
Q: Did you know for sure you would be fine against Bogus and HyuN? A: To be honest I wasn't too confident, because I didn't have the amount of practice I would normally have. When I saw the groups get sorted out, I knew I would be ok in my group. Advancing with a 2-1 record isn't the best case scenario, but at the end I advanced and I shall be happy with that.
Q: You played intensely in the winners' set. A: I wasn't able to hold my mouse properly at times because of my arm. With physical conditions bothering me, I couldn't quite focus fully in the game. I still tried my best until the end so that I can be ready for the final set.
Q: How bad is the injury/illness? A: I started receiving treatment yesterday. In two days I'll go get an MRI. My doctor told me that the nerves aren't damaged and the problem is only in my muscles, so I suppose it's not as bad as it could have been. Still I have trouble loosening my arm muscles after they get super tense. Doctor told me that I should be ok to continue my career as a progamer after the treatment. For now, I plan to prioritize treatment and rehabilitation over tournaments and gaming.
Q: So did you fully regain your game focus in the final set? A: Not really. Even in the final set I didn't feel like I was in full control. After two weeks of treatment, I should be able to show my usual form in the games. Our organization have done its best in finding me the best possible medical help.
Q: Goal for this starleague? A: I haven't settled on one yet. Lately I've been depressed - somewhat because I've been losing a lot, but more so because I'm worried about my arm/hand. I'll do what I can for this starleague. My team also reminded me that this season isn't the end of the world and I have to continue my career so I should focus on the treatment.
Q: Any last words? A: First of all, thanks to the managers and coaches for connecting me to the best rehabilitation center available in this country. I was pretty depressed lately due to the injury/illness but I regained belief after seeing the doctor there. Special thanks to Head Coach Lee and Mr. Kim from the organization. I'll do my part in the rehabilitation process so that I can be a true ace player for KT Rolster in the post-season. I hope the fans won't worry too much.
Q: How bad is the injury/illness? A: I started receiving treatment yesterday. In two days I'll go get an MRI. My doctor told me that the nerves aren't damaged and the problem is only in my muscles, so I suppose it's not as bad as it could have been. Still I have trouble loosening my arm muscles after they get super tense. Doctor told me that I should be ok to continue my career as a progamer after the treatment. For now, I plan to prioritize treatment and rehabilitation over tournaments and gaming.
. Thanks bro for the interview and yay. I guess Flash MIGHT not retire sooner than I thought
Thanks OpticalShot for the translations Glad to see JD in high spirits, that's always nice :D I hope Flash gets better and returns to 100% soon with his treatment.
I'm glad JD and Flash both made it out of their groups... JD always seems like such a nice guy in interviews, and in game he is Tyrant! I guess thats what we love about him! I'm glad Flash seems to be getting proper treatment and that it won't take too long, we can't lose the best player in the world so young!
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Good news that Flash is prioritising his treatment. I'm also glad they have sought out the best medical care available, money should be no obstacle in rehabilitating Flash. I now only hope that he can recover well and advance in this tournament without excessive practice, which I'm sure he is capable of.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
And this is why Korean progamers always give bland generic answers to everything. Always somebody gonna get butthurt. Act confident and ppl say ur arrogant. Act humble and people say it's fake. Talk about your injury and people say you're making excuses. Avoid talking about the injury and your fans start freaking out.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
Flash brought up the topic first.
Seriously. It's really annoying how he touches it after the game as if he is going to die. He knows the TV screen will be on him then.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
Flash brought up the topic first.
well,he felt like he needed to mention it,he'd have been asked about it anyway.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
Flash brought up the topic first.
well,he felt like he needed to mention it,he'd have been asked about it anyway.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
Flash brought up the topic first.
well,he felt like he needed to mention it,he'd have been asked about it anyway.
lolwut!
I say that in regards to the question the interviewer asked him.
Q: You played intensely in the winners' set. A: I wasn't able to hold my mouse properly at times because of my arm. With physical conditions bothering me, I couldn't quite focus fully in the game. I still tried my best until the end so that I can be ready for the final set.
He could have just said,"I wasn't able to play to my level" and even then the followup question would be "is it in regards to your wrist injury?"
regardless of what he said the topic of his wrist would come up.
you're just bashing on him because he brought it up first when it was obvious that it was his reason that his play was held back.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
Flash brought up the topic first.
This is godamn ridiculous. Flash is a top-level progamer whose wrists are facing permanent injury. That's like your Achilles being torn in a major sport. It's your godamn LIFELINE. So he OBVIOUSLY worries about it ALL the f*cking time, his entire career is on the line here, let him worry about it, dammit. I'm sorry, but I hate people who judge based on one part and blatantly ignore everything else that has ever happened. Kind of how people say Flash only ever turtles because of his recent games, and yet he was known THE Cheddar Terran post-Boxer. But this time, people say Flash is martyring himself. Yes, after 6 starleague golds and several rough patches in his career, he decides to martyr himself NOW, right? Give the kid a godamn break. He's not like someone who always blames maps when he loses. In fact, he's been the most gracious and humble kid, and now that he's worrying every day about his lifeline, people suddenly label him.
That's disgusting and I hope to never meet you guys in real life...
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
Flash brought up the topic first.
This is godamn ridiculous. Flash is a top-level progamer whose wrists are facing permanent injury. That's like your Achilles being torn in a major sport. It's your godamn LIFELINE. So he OBVIOUSLY worries about it ALL the f*cking time, his entire career is on the line here, let him worry about it, dammit. I'm sorry, but I hate people who judge based on one part and blatantly ignore everything else that has ever happened. Kind of how people say Flash only ever turtles because of his recent games, and yet he was known THE Cheddar Terran post-Boxer. But this time, people say Flash is martyring himself. Yes, after 6 starleague golds and several rough patches in his career, he decides to martyr himself NOW, right? Give the kid a godamn break. He's not like someone who always blames maps when he loses. In fact, he's been the most gracious and humble kid, and now that he's worrying every day about his lifeline, people suddenly label him.
That's disgusting and I hope to never meet you guys in real life...
This is fun. From the live report thread to the interview nothing but Flash vs JD fans. I have yet to see a non-Flash fan come to his defense, but most anti-Flash fans come with all team icon, especially Oz. What's up with that? It is expected for Flash fans to defend him, but something's up when just about everyone feels he has to chime in on Flash. Oh well haha
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
On June 23 2011 17:18 Black Hole wrote: This is fun. From the live report thread to the interview nothing but Flash vs JD fans. I have yet to see a non-Flash fan come to his defense, but most anti-Flash fans come with all team icon, especially Oz. What's up with that? It is expected for Flash fans to defend him, but something's up when just about everyone feels he has to chime in on Flash. Oh well haha
jd fans are just angry that flash "stole" nearly every starleague gold from him... whatever i dont mind reading infos about his wrist condiditon...flash fighting!
There are no such thing as Jaedong fans, just Flash anti-fans. I don't know where I read that but I can't help but believe it (disregarding the crying Korean women ofc).
His wrist hurts. It is the biggest thing on his mind. It comes up in interviews and doubtless in conversation as well. People want to see the mastermind dethroned and hate that his losses are coming from a completely legitimate injury.
Also, I'm a SKT fan so neither Jaedong nor Flash are people I particularly love, I'm just trying to be fair lol
Good old Jaedong, playing team melee against Speed and Bee. No wonder his ZvT has gotten so good lately. Clearly Flash needs to get KT to buy some zerg team melee practice partners if he wants to improve his TvZ to the point of being able to win against JD again.
there are a F***Ton of immature people who always whine when Flash happens to mention his wrist problems... It is a big deal and he is going to talk about it... Get over yourselves!
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You got the beat my friend. That settles it once and for all.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
On June 23 2011 17:58 4vvhiplash7 wrote: there are a F***Ton of immature people who always whine when Flash happens to mention his wrist problems... It is a big deal and he is going to talk about it... Get over yourselves!
whining about your problems is pretty immature, actually, if I may say. As it was said before, Flash himself started this wrist chit, he could have kept silent and do his job. Maybe Flash fans liked that booth theater, but for me it was just hypocritical and sad. Now, according to his interview it appears, that there is nothing so serious, just tired muscles, that need rest. So why then make such a big deal out of this? For the your fans? Maybe. I prefer humble sportsmen that just try to do their best. Honestly, there is nothing wrong with whining. Its just what you like and don't like about ppl.
While I think Flash should take a break, I don't think he's in much of a position to do anything. The same goes for Jaedong, neither is in much of a position to do anything because their teams are completely useless without them. They certainly know that, I don't imagine them being so oblivious to the fact of that their teams are really weak, especially after KT literally lost their whole A team besides Stats.
He's not like Kal or Bisu where their god awful performances, while negative to the team's situation, doesn't deep six the whole team. Bisu slumped for the whole of last year and it didn't really matter because you have Fantasy and Best to hold the fort.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
So, you disliked Flash as a person long before you had anything to dislike him as a person for? I mean I guess that explains all your comments against him and we should all just take it with a grain of salt. Oh well.
I see there are (again) people who have problems with Flash mentioning his wrist. But worry not, I have one mindblowing revelation for you - you don't have to read Flash interviews! Isn't that amazing, huh? No need for thanks, you're welcome!
Anyway, thanks for the translation! I, for one, really enjoyed Flash honest interview and I want as much info about his wrist as I can get.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
So, you disliked Flash as a person long before you had anything to dislike him as a person for? I mean I guess that explains all your comments against him and we should all just take it with a grain of salt. Oh well.
Not attentive. I said that his wrist complaining is not what made me dislike him. A whole bunch of facts, I mentioned that in my previous posts. Now it all sums up.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
On June 23 2011 18:54 L0thar wrote: I see there are (again) people who have problems with Flash mentioning his wrist. But worry not, I have one mindblowing revelation for you - you don't have to read Flash interviews! Isn't that amazing, huh? No need for thanks, you're welcome!
Anyway, thanks for the translation! I, for one, really enjoyed Flash honest interview and I want as much info about his wrist as I can get.
You do realise that complaints != dislike. Negative comments are just as important as positive ones. Imagine if every comment was positive? how boring. Controversies are good at attracting views and bring people together. Actually, I think I enjoy reading complaints more than any other comment.
Oh, I'm being too annoying am I? Worry not my friends, its all these cool games that important only. All other things is just an ordinary fan rumbling. Don't engage into it. Be a fan of your true only player.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
I'LL SHOW YOU
I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
I wonder, how would you explain "unfounded dislike" now, that you've read my posts?) Or you just want to offend me?
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
I'LL SHOW YOU
I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!
This could be a reason, actually, but I'd think that you've got issues (no offense).
To address the whine coming from people - are you not aware that Lee Youngho himself has not known whether or not the pain would ever go away, or if he would be able to continue as a progamer at all. When you play through any type of RSI (which this is 100%) you risk it becoming chronic, i.e you can never get rid of it, only ease the pain.
If Flash would get a chronic RSI, that would be the end of his career. Flash is (perhaps not currently but definitely overall in terms of achievements) the best player in the world, why would his condition and his future not interest you?
"One shouldn't whine about their own problems, everyone has them yada yada". Come on people, this isn't your average "..but...but...but...my toe hurts I can't practise..." He wants inform his fans and friends on how his condition is progressing and/or being treated and perhaps vent some.
I suppose the people making these comments are those who just come to read a nice and happy interview to distance themselves from their own problems, expecting love and flowers and even more flowers. Such a great example of the lack of empathy in the e-sport scene. Wake up, Flashs condition is very real and even the + Show Spoiler [might shock some ignorant people] +
korean are human.
Jaedong has been quite confident in interviews lately. When he drops his modesty, I suspect something is up because he won't performs at 100%.
Glad to see Flash taking the rehabilitation seriously.
Seeing Flash's condition, not career-ending, I breath a sigh of relief. It will be such a waste of talent even though I'm waiting for Flash to exit the OSL.
On June 23 2011 18:54 L0thar wrote: I see there are (again) people who have problems with Flash mentioning his wrist. But worry not, I have one mindblowing revelation for you - you don't have to read Flash interviews! Isn't that amazing, huh? No need for thanks, you're welcome!
Anyway, thanks for the translation! I, for one, really enjoyed Flash honest interview and I want as much info about his wrist as I can get.
You do realise that complaints != dislike. Negative comments are just as important as positive ones. Imagine if every comment was positive? how boring. Controversies are good at attracting views and bring people together. Actually, I think I enjoy reading complaints more than any other comment.
There are valid complaints and then there are hateful spiteful comments with no value whatsoever. While former have obviously place in every discussion, the later only hinders it. Do you know one of the latest Flash interview thread had to be temporalily locked down because of the shitstorm his haters produced? That's not what I call bringing people together.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
I'LL SHOW YOU
I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!
This could be a reason, actually, but I'd think that you've got issues (no offense).
I figure it's as legitimate a reason as "He smiles when he loses."
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
I'LL SHOW YOU
I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!
This could be a reason, actually, but I'd think that you've got issues (no offense).
I figure it's as legitimate a reason as "He smiles when he loses."
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote: [quote] lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
I'LL SHOW YOU
I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!
This could be a reason, actually, but I'd think that you've got issues (no offense).
I figure it's as legitimate a reason as "He smiles when he loses."
No
please read the comment dibban made...it was pretty good
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
I'LL SHOW YOU
I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!
You're always involved in these petty squabbles. Hmmm. With these kind of posts I understand why.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
I'LL SHOW YOU
I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!
You're always involved in these petty squabbles. Hmmm. With these kind of posts I understand why.
It was a joke, purely sarcastic. I apologize if you took offense to it.
On June 23 2011 18:29 Yodo wrote: ITT Flash's haters whine about Flash "whining".
well, they have a good reason, now that flash said it, you can be sure that for the next two years you will hear Flash fanbois say "he would have won if it wasn't for his wrist problems" every time Flash losses...
... on the other hand they already do that anyway.. =)
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
On June 23 2011 18:29 Yodo wrote: ITT Flash's haters whine about Flash "whining".
well, they have a good reason, now that flash said it, you can be sure that for the next two years you will hear Flash fanbois say "he would have won if it wasn't for his wrist problems" every time Flash losses...
... on the other hand they already do that anyway.. =)
of course every player will lose alot in his career. but lets be honest here...flash is arguably the best to ever play broodwar and of course his wrist problems will infect his condition and results.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
No, I don't sound ridiculous. Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere. Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
No, I don't sound ridiculous. Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere. Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?
yes,you do sound ridiculous.
If you don't like what Flash says in his interviews,don't comment.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
No, I don't sound ridiculous. Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere. Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?
Again, it's an interview, and he was specifically asked about his injury. Wtf did you want him to say? What's the point of an interview if players just fudge every answer they give because they're afraid of what perception other people have of them. You're just being incredibly judgmental and equating a smile after winning to being BM and arrogant, which is equally as stupid.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
No, I don't sound ridiculous. Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere. Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?
Uh, right after beating Hyun in this very group. Weren't you watching? He shook his wrists and grimaced sharply. It even spawned discussion in the LR thread. But sure, maybe it was because his arrogance left him visibly pained by Hyun's play in that game. He needs to save the good excuses for when he loses.
On June 23 2011 18:29 Yodo wrote: ITT Flash's haters whine about Flash "whining".
well, they have a good reason, now that flash said it, you can be sure that for the next two years you will hear Flash fanbois say "he would have won if it wasn't for his wrist problems" every time Flash losses...
... on the other hand they already do that anyway.. =)
That won't be a problem cause he's winning everything lol
I wonder why people are so closed off to the idea that Flash is simply an honest kid. It boggles the mind. I'd have understood the hate if Flash said that his opponent was bad enough he could easily defeat him with injured wrists, but not if Flash said that he had injured wrists which worried him.
Progamers talk about their health ALL THE TIME. They'll say they got a cold. They'll say they got a fever. They'll talk about their condition being bad, being tired with the schedule, being unmotivated... it's part of their interaction with fans. Now you have Flash, possibly the greatest gamer of them all, talk about a career-threatening injury that clearly pains him. He didn't complain all that much when he was the child-labor Terran. He didn't complain about maps (sorry Bisu lol). He didn't complain about the thousands of cheeses thrown at him on a regular basis because his opponents feared his standard game. Why can't we take that context into account and realize that hey, MAYBE Flash is simply being honest here and isn't really making excuses. MAYBE his history of being talkative and candid in interviews makes all this an innocent discussion. MAYBE he just wants to thank the supportive KT staff and his doctor. Who the hell knows?
The only maybe in my mind is a question of MAYBE the Flash haters have finally run out of ammo in criticizing his game play they've resorted to questioning his sportsmanship -_-
EDIT:
Piece of advice - hate the fanboys, that can be justified (especially us Bisu fanboys haha) but stop crucifying the player in their stead.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
No, I don't sound ridiculous. Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere. Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?
yes,you do sound ridiculous.
If you don't like what Flash says in his interviews,don't comment.
Do I have to spoonfeed this to every single person? I though I was quite clear with that. What I don't understand is what you're trying to say? That I look ridiculous when judge person for arrogant attitude. Well everyone knows that Flash is a bit cocky. Well I have a right to say that I don't like it. Where am I ridiculous and what do you find so ridiculous is a question to me?
"And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins?" I don't blame him for being happy when he wins, but for intentional "theatre" of his injuries when he loses.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
No, I don't sound ridiculous. Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere. Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?
Uh, right after beating Hyun in this very group. Weren't you watching? He shook his wrists and grimaced sharply. It even spawned discussion in the LR thread. But sure, maybe it was because his arrogance left him visibly pained by Hyun's play in that game. He needs to save the good excuses for when he loses.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
No, I don't sound ridiculous. Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere. Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?
yes,you do sound ridiculous.
If you don't like what Flash says in his interviews,don't comment.
Do I have to spoonfeed this to every single person? I though I was quite clear with that. What I don't understand is what you're trying to say? That I look ridiculous when judge person for arrogant attitude. Well everyone knows that Flash is a bit cocky. Well I have a right to say that I don't like it. Where am I ridiculous and what do you find so ridiculous is a question to me?
"And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins?" I don't blame him for being happy when he wins, but for intentional "theatre" of his injuries when he loses.
Yes you have a right to say that you don't like,but its ridiculous to go on and on about it because you can't do anything about it,you can't control what he says in an interview,what you say does not make any difference to what he says in an interview unless you went up to him an said "you flash I don't like that you keep complaining about your arms,makes you sound like a drama queen etc,etc."but then you would come off as rude yourself,wouldn't you?:p
all I'm saying is,hes gonna keep talking about his wrist because its an important topic of discussion when it comes to him.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
No, I don't sound ridiculous. Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere. Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?
yes,you do sound ridiculous.
If you don't like what Flash says in his interviews,don't comment.
Do I have to spoonfeed this to every single person? I though I was quite clear with that. What I don't understand is what you're trying to say? That I look ridiculous when judge person for arrogant attitude. Well everyone knows that Flash is a bit cocky. Well I have a right to say that I don't like it. Where am I ridiculous and what do you find so ridiculous is a question to me?
"And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins?" I don't blame him for being happy when he wins, but for intentional "theatre" of his injuries when he loses.
Yes you have a right to say that you don't like,but its ridiculous to go on and on about it because you can't do anything about it,you can't control what he says in an interview,what you say does not make any difference to what he says in an interview unless you went up to him an said "you flash I don't like that you keep complaining about your arms,makes you sound like a drama queen etc,etc."but then you would come off as rude yourself,wouldn't you?:p
all I'm saying is,hes gonna keep talking about his wrist because its an important topic of discussion when it comes to him.
Too true, and as a fan of his I am desperate to hear any and all updates he has regarding his condition. He is just being honest to his fans who care very much about him, and we appreciate it a lot!
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer! "The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time." Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
No, I don't sound ridiculous. Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere. Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?
yes,you do sound ridiculous.
If you don't like what Flash says in his interviews,don't comment.
Do I have to spoonfeed this to every single person? I though I was quite clear with that. What I don't understand is what you're trying to say? That I look ridiculous when judge person for arrogant attitude. Well everyone knows that Flash is a bit cocky. Well I have a right to say that I don't like it. Where am I ridiculous and what do you find so ridiculous is a question to me?
"And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins?" I don't blame him for being happy when he wins, but for intentional "theatre" of his injuries when he loses.
Yes you have a right to say that you don't like,but its ridiculous to go on and on about it because you can't do anything about it,you can't control what he says in an interview,what you say does not make any difference to what he says in an interview unless you went up to him an said "you flash I don't like that you keep complaining about your arms,makes you sound like a drama queen etc,etc."but then you would come off as rude yourself,wouldn't you?:p
all I'm saying is,hes gonna keep talking about his wrist because its an important topic of discussion when it comes to him.
I can't. All I can is write about my opinion and impression. But its just my opinion, someone thinks this is ok, someone thinks that is ok too. I was accused of what I feel and think is wrong, I objected and tried to explain, it took hell of a time and space. My point was, being humble and laconic is what I prefer in ppl to being talkative and a bit cocky. That's it. Flash was always giving an impression of being the former, what can I do about that? Should I go to Korea, buy him a beer and ask stop doing it -- well, that is ridiculous)
We all need a healthy competition from Flash, after all.
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
Wrong quote. Go back up, and you see where the issue lies:
Q: First thought on making it to the starleague group stage? A: I'm happy to have made it. If I lost and fell out of the starleague dual tournament today, I would have to climb all the way from the preliminaries next season. I will not repeat the mistakes I made last season.
ok, standard reply so far...
Q: You won easily in set 1. A: I knew that I would advance out of the group if I clenched set 1.
still no problemo...
Q: Did you know for sure you would be fine against (T)Bogus and (Z)HyuN? A: To be honest I wasn't too confident, because I didn't have the amount of practice I would normally have. When I saw the groups get sorted out, I knew I would be ok in my group. Advancing with a 2-1 record isn't the best case scenario, but at the end I advanced and I shall be happy with that.
uh-oh... now he's hinting on it. was he simply waiting for the opportunity...
Q: You played intensely in the winners' set. A: I wasn't able to hold my mouse properly at times because of my arm. With physical conditions bothering me, I couldn't quite focus fully in the game. I still tried my best until the end so that I can be ready for the final set.
BAM! Out of nowhere! He is the victim. Doesn't give credit to his opponent and gives an excuse. And then he finishes up with this "try my best" shit.
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote: ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.
Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.
I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.
On topic:
This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha
Flash brought up the topic first.
On June 23 2011 21:11 BLinD-RawR wrote: yes,you do sound ridiculous.
If you don't like what Flash says in his interviews,don't comment.
Don't listen to this guy. What could you expect from a guy who joined TL only April 2010 and has 8000 posts! Can you believe that?!! At my rate I'd be lucky to reach 1000 before the year is over. I'm with you here Koka-Kola. They may be many, but you will not be bullied.
Ya, how many posts per month someone has is really relevant to the content within them.
I'm sick of people coming into Flash interview-threads and giving him shit. Playing SC is this kids life, it's his career and it's in fucking danger. Behead him if he dares opening his mouth regarding this issue, right?
Well some people don't miss the opportunity to insult the best Starcraft player ever... If You've followed SC for long time enough, you would now that Flash is one of the best mannered progamers and doesn't have a reason to find excuses for his loses (he was in much worse situation and blamed only himself). His wrist condition is clearly very bad and if it was one of the reason for his loss, it's only ok to say so. Lot of dispensable hatred in this thread.
Flash just admitted he's feeling depressed; he's human. There's no need to rag on him for wanting to talk about an injury that's threatening his career, causing him physical pain, and bringing him down. Despite his godlike SC skills, he's younger than most of TL too. Give him some credit for manning up to play and advancing anyway.
To be honest, Flash's recent interviews are actually worth reading because there is something beyond the old "He played well", "I have huge passion to win this Starleague", etc. In fact, this interview was the only one I actually wanted to read because its was going to talk about his current condition and he's not the type of guy to dodge these questions.
Korea seems to be churning out so many robots that whenever someone says something "out of line", in this case its not remotely close to being controversial like "Hyun/Bogus is a scrub, can't even beat me", people go nuts.
For the first time, I can honestly write LOL while physically laughing out loud. Im like a madman laughing alone here at work reading between the Interview thread and the LR. hahaha. good times
On June 23 2011 22:55 Sovetsky Soyuz wrote: For the first time, I can honestly write LOL while physically laughing out loud. Im like a madman laughing alone here at work reading between the Interview thread and the LR. hahaha. good times
yeah its getting a bit silly now,but this shit needs to end soon.There's just waaay too much hate,even from me.
@ darth vader,what does my post count have to do with anything about what I said?
Q: You played intensely in the winners' set. A: I wasn't able to hold my mouse properly at times because of my arm. With physical conditions bothering me, I couldn't quite focus fully in the game. I still tried my best until the end so that I can be ready for the final set.
BAM! Out of nowhere! He is the victim. Doesn't give credit to his opponent and gives an excuse. And then he finishes up with this "try my best" shit.
wow you are one hateful (blinded) person.
so i guess athletes are never allowed to talk about any sort of injury that hinders their performance?
besides JD and Flash are very good friends. they dont need to talk publicly about how well the other played or not.
hopefully they both meet in the Finals. When both are in top condition.
On June 23 2011 17:57 kuroshiroi wrote: Good old Jaedong, playing team melee against Speed and Bee. No wonder his ZvT has gotten so good lately. Clearly Flash needs to get KT to buy some zerg team melee practice partners if he wants to improve his TvZ to the point of being able to win against JD again.
JD hwaiting~
Seriously, its team melee? I thought the Oz rookies just took turns against JD to not get discouraged from constant losing. Any backing to that data? It does seem suspicious that JD always practices with B-team guys and not Light or Sea etc.
Well, after the others pointed it out, i read it again that its true Flash is the one to bring it up first this time. He should have opened up with comments on Jaedong's performance first, imo. Although of course its perfectly fine that he mentioned his poor condition (like many others mentioned, other Pros do it all the time, from having a cold (Tyson, BeSt, Bisu, whoever else), having to take a dump/stomach pain (Jangbi), or having to piss (Shine), not to mention all that stuffs about being unfocused or losing motivation or whatnot.).
So yea, while i see where the haters are coming from, its kinda only a small fault from Flash' side.
On June 23 2011 18:29 Yodo wrote: ITT Flash's haters whine about Flash "whining".
well, they have a good reason, now that flash said it, you can be sure that for the next two years you will hear Flash fanbois say "he would have won if it wasn't for his wrist problems" every time Flash losses...
... on the other hand they already do that anyway.. =)
That won't be a problem cause he's winning everything lol
Haha man, im not hating on Flash, but you do realise that even though he has a good reason, he is on a 5 loss streaks in PL right?
On June 23 2011 17:57 kuroshiroi wrote: Good old Jaedong, playing team melee against Speed and Bee. No wonder his ZvT has gotten so good lately. Clearly Flash needs to get KT to buy some zerg team melee practice partners if he wants to improve his TvZ to the point of being able to win against JD again.
JD hwaiting~
Seriously, its team melee? I thought the Oz rookies just took turns against JD to not get discouraged from constant losing. Any backing to that data? It does seem suspicious that JD always practices with B-team guys and not Light or Sea etc.
No facts, sorry, it's just the only thing that fits. I do know Ace admitted to using team melee to prepare for JD (i.e. two guys offraced as zerg) so these B-team practice partners must be using team melee to some degree, otherwise what would the other guy do while waiting for his turn to get dominated?
That's really the only reason I think JD has been able to prepare for somebody like Flash without actually practising against Flash all the time. I suppose Speed and Bee might be practice bonjwas but I find the team melee explanation more likely.
wow even as a zero/JD fan i cannot believe how people cannot put their fan bias aside when discussing issues like these. this is someone's health, and when he brings it up people are so quick to trash him about it. pretty hilarious how anti-flash this forum is.
On June 23 2011 23:38 Motivate wrote: wow even as a zero/JD fan i cannot believe how people cannot put their fan bias aside when discussing issues like these. this is someone's health, and when he brings it up people are so quick to trash him about it. pretty hilarious how anti-flash this forum is.
i wonder if the koreans think the same thing about flash as most of you do.
From my perspective, the most "anti-X" sentiment in TL is anti-Bisu
It hurt my heart to see people dissing Bisu all the time
Look, its not about bringing it up. Its no problem that flash brought up the wrist issue, in fact it was somewhat expected. The problem is WHEN he brought it up. As Vader said, it was exactly at the WORST possible time. The timing left no doubt: it was an excuse for the loss. And not giving props to winner, especially with it being the hardest matchup in brood war, is n o t cool.
On June 23 2011 23:44 xarthaz wrote: Look, its not about bringing it up. Its no problem that flash brought up the wrist issue, in fact it was somewhat expected. The problem is WHEN he brought it up. As Vader said, it was exactly at the WORST possible time. The timing left no doubt: it was an excuse for the loss. And not giving props to winner, especially with it being the hardest matchup in brood war, is n o t cool.
where did he say or even imply "i lost because of my wrist"? the timing is an interview.
On June 23 2011 23:54 Kipsate wrote: So much hate in this thread
A little luv please.
wtf, the face expression is not very polite, when you're standing next to the greatest -_- Flash is not looking at JD, and is not smiling back!!! (ololol oh, I'm just fooling around, a nice pic thanks)
On June 23 2011 23:44 xarthaz wrote: Look, its not about bringing it up. Its no problem that flash brought up the wrist issue, in fact it was somewhat expected. The problem is WHEN he brought it up. As Vader said, it was exactly at the WORST possible time. The timing left no doubt: it was an excuse for the loss. And not giving props to winner, especially with it being the hardest matchup in brood war, is n o t cool.
Hardest matchup? Statistically it would be PvZ. Why would the timing leave no doubt? Vader read too much between the lines and assumed motivation and intent that was not provable from a few translated sentences.
Again, too much is being put into Flash's mouth; too much is being assumed from his demeanor. And in the history of his career he has never been one to make excuses for losses (reasons =/= excuses). Comparatively, Bisu whines more, and I resent it when people say he does because I think he's just being honest as well (has there ever been a shy-er S-class player?).
On June 23 2011 23:44 xarthaz wrote: Look, its not about bringing it up. Its no problem that flash brought up the wrist issue, in fact it was somewhat expected. The problem is WHEN he brought it up. As Vader said, it was exactly at the WORST possible time. The timing left no doubt: it was an excuse for the loss. And not giving props to winner, especially with it being the hardest matchup in brood war, is n o t cool.
where did he say or even imply "i lost because of my wrist"? the timing is an interview.
On June 23 2011 23:44 xarthaz wrote: Look, its not about bringing it up. Its no problem that flash brought up the wrist issue, in fact it was somewhat expected. The problem is WHEN he brought it up. As Vader said, it was exactly at the WORST possible time. The timing left no doubt: it was an excuse for the loss. And not giving props to winner, especially with it being the hardest matchup in brood war, is n o t cool.
Hardest matchup? Statistically it would be PvZ. Why would the timing leave no doubt? Vader read too much between the lines and assumed motivation and intent that was not provable from a few translated sentences.
Again, too much is being put into Flash's mouth; too much is being assumed from his demeanor. And in the history of his career he has never been one to make excuses for losses (reasons =/= excuses). Comparatively, Bisu whines more, and I resent it when people say he does because I think he's just being honest as well (has there ever been a shy-er S-class player?).
On June 23 2011 23:38 Motivate wrote: wow even as a zero/JD fan i cannot believe how people cannot put their fan bias aside when discussing issues like these. this is someone's health, and when he brings it up people are so quick to trash him about it. pretty hilarious how anti-flash this forum is.
i wonder if the koreans think the same thing
Indeed, I also wonder why is Flash so hated on TL. It seems like he is the most hated progamer by far. Sometimes people like Shine take temporarily the number 1 position, but in no time the hate train is back on Flash.
The wrist problem is only flavour of the month hate. People hated him for cheesing, turtling, playing terran, being arrogant, being bland with no personality and now for being honest about his health problems. I'm sure if Flash solved the world hunger and brough peace to middle east, people would hate him even for that lol.
Sometimes I wish mods were stricter about it. But then again, it's so much sweeter when Flash wins yet another title and shuts all those haters up.
Well well, I usually check back a couple times after I post a translation for feedback and corrections. I want to constantly improve the quality and accuracy of my translations, and it's good to see that TL people (international) have various additional comments regarding the interview. For the most part, I've seen much better responses/replies here than on the sources (DES, and Fomos in the past), but I can't quite say that for this one.
Regarding the issue where Flash brought up the wrist issue before he was directly asked: - strictly speaking, he did bring it up before he was directly asked about it. From both DES and Fomos interviews (the latter of which I will not quote because... you know), that question is the 4th one asked and the previous three questions do not bring up the wrist problem yet. - the point of the question (Q#4) is to hear about Flash's thoughts on playing intensely until the very end when the game seemed lost from the beginning. Watch the entire VOD if you must. - the point of the answer to Q#4, from what I gather from the two sources, is that he kept playing despite knowing that he'll probably lose at the end - because he wanted to be warmed up and focused for the final set that he would play against winner of Hyun vs. Bogus. - he mentions that it was difficult to find his usual game sense and says that the hand/wrist/arm problem was the main reason. - in the Fomos interview, Q#5, Flash mentions that he took Tylenol for the first time ever.
Apologies for any misunderstandings. If you have any further questions, feel free to message me and I'll read over the interview again to clarify to the best of my abilities.
On June 24 2011 02:44 Crunchums wrote: I feel bad for Bogus - dude deserved a group that mere mortals had a chance of advancing from >__> Maybe next season
I agree with this, he's a quite interesting players and I would've loved to see more from him in OSL.
Loving the picture & Thanks for the translations. I hope Flash can regain his form and isn't too hurt by the muscle tension. Flash & Jaedong really outplayed the other two guys.
he's not blaming bad play on wrist... hes just saying it's hindering his play, and is a serious issue... getting a wrist injury as a gamer, or in even any other sport is a serious deal and should not be met with ridicule
People hate on Flash because Flash is still on top. Just like how people hated Savior, people hate Federer, people even hated Jordan when he was on top. TBH I think that Flash + JD has kind of made individual leagues stale but at the same time I respect them for being able to dominate as well as they can. If there's any group of people you SHOULD hate its the ridiculous bisu fanboys.
Congrats to Jd and Flash for advancing. What a beast they are for not having to practice much but still smashing the group. Let's hope they meet in the Finals again!! And please people, enough with the Flash hating and bashing. Why can't Flash and Jd fans just get along like Holgerius? Learn to respect one another. ^_^
On June 23 2011 23:32 ffreakk wrote: Well, after the others pointed it out, i read it again that its true Flash is the one to bring it up first this time. He should have opened up with comments on Jaedong's performance first, imo. Although of course its perfectly fine that he mentioned his poor condition (like many others mentioned, other Pros do it all the time, from having a cold (Tyson, BeSt, Bisu, whoever else), having to take a dump/stomach pain (Jangbi), or having to piss (Shine), not to mention all that stuffs about being unfocused or losing motivation or whatnot.).
So yea, while i see where the haters are coming from, its kinda only a small fault from Flash' side.
On June 23 2011 18:29 Yodo wrote: ITT Flash's haters whine about Flash "whining".
well, they have a good reason, now that flash said it, you can be sure that for the next two years you will hear Flash fanbois say "he would have won if it wasn't for his wrist problems" every time Flash losses...
... on the other hand they already do that anyway.. =)
That won't be a problem cause he's winning everything lol
Haha man, im not hating on Flash, but you do realise that even though he has a good reason, he is on a 5 loss streaks in PL right?
Screw that he just won the MSL : D. 5 pl games is barely a speedbump lol
man I really hope Flash switches over to SC2! I think it would be much easier on his arm. If he has to stop playing for a month or two maybe he could pick up SC2 in his free time?
On June 26 2011 13:50 onedayclose wrote: man I really hope Flash switches over to SC2! I think it would be much easier on his arm. If he has to stop playing for a month or two maybe he could pick up SC2 in his free time?
omg to comments like this have to appear in every post in bw general these days? -_-
On June 26 2011 13:50 onedayclose wrote: man I really hope Flash switches over to SC2! I think it would be much easier on his arm. If he has to stop playing for a month or two maybe he could pick up SC2 in his free time?
On June 26 2011 14:05 Tenhou wrote: I've been thinking lately, what if Fantasy decided to troll and put JD and Flash into Stork's group to make everyone rages?
On June 26 2011 13:50 onedayclose wrote: man I really hope Flash switches over to SC2! I think it would be much easier on his arm. If he has to stop playing for a month or two maybe he could pick up SC2 in his free time?
On June 26 2011 14:05 Tenhou wrote: I've been thinking lately, what if Fantasy decided to troll and put JD and Flash into Stork's group to make everyone rages?
On June 26 2011 14:05 Tenhou wrote: I've been thinking lately, what if Fantasy decided to troll and put JD and Flash into Stork's group to make everyone rages?
The ro16 groups are randomly selected.
Ro16 Group A should be Fantasy, Flash, Jaedong and + Show Spoiler +
On June 26 2011 14:05 Tenhou wrote: I've been thinking lately, what if Fantasy decided to troll and put JD and Flash into Stork's group to make everyone rages?
The ro16 groups are randomly selected.
Ro16 Group A should be Fantasy, Flash, Jaedong and + Show Spoiler +
Hydra to continue the trend.
I hope not, so Flash can save his awesomenessness until later in the tournament.
This is now getting ridiculous. People hating on Flash because he talks how the problems with his wrists hinders his play. Each and every Flash interview has bunch of those little haters feeling a need to spit their distasteful comments. I thought that after some cleansing of the forum idiots some time ago (props to Shine for that) we were free of them.
I'm glad that Flash will be getting the treatment and I hope he will get back to his former shape relatively quickly.
EPT
Jaedong: "I'll unleash my fiery desires in the games to come."![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8yCPd.jpg)
Flash - for the 51st time. There were some shaky moments in the game.![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KMW7F.jpg)
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seems like he always stuck on the zerg heavy side of the bracket.![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/38iva.jpg)
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