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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
February 06 2005 06:03 GMT
#41
Stupid thing to say. Talent is when you gain skill really fast. Something SaFT didn't do. He earned it by playing like hell.. Its almost a insult calling him talented really... Its like neji vs rock lee fealing.. Not fair having talent =P
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
February 06 2005 06:06 GMT
#42
The most talent? Slayer by far.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
February 06 2005 06:07 GMT
#43
On February 06 2005 14:13 k3fka wrote:
1.hovz
2.hovz
3.hovz
4.hovz
5.hovz


Wow, nobody saw that one coming...
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
GG15-Style
Profile Joined September 2004
Panama593 Posts
February 06 2005 06:11 GMT
#44
1-Grrrr...
2-ElkY
3-Slayer
4-NTT
5-sVEN
[GG]=best team ever
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
February 06 2005 06:17 GMT
#45
seems a lot of people have the same top4 (me included) which is grrrr, elky slayer and ntt. seen a lot of different people on that #5 spot though... would be interesting to see if naz would place himself there...
J1
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada579 Posts
February 06 2005 06:18 GMT
#46
On February 06 2005 14:19 Ghardo wrote:
to me the talent of a player is more interesting, as accomplishments (we are speaking here about korea - wcg and such) are dependant on luck, environment, chances, connections, desire etc. etc.

so as far as raw talent is concerned it would be something like (order's not that important):

#1 Slayer
#2 SaFT
#3 NTT
#4 Nazgul
#5 sVEN



i have to agree.
Playing games in the ways of the DIAO...
vaj
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany327 Posts
February 06 2005 06:31 GMT
#47
--- Nuked ---
rOm
Profile Joined December 2002
Latvia1208 Posts
February 06 2005 06:37 GMT
#48
Grrrr
Elky
Naz/Asmodey/Leg (Donnu why asmodey.. He was in korea nonetheless)
My RSX owns yours.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-06 06:43:25
February 06 2005 06:39 GMT
#49
Grrrr
Elky
Slayer/myself
NTT

Grrr and Elky should really speak for themselves. If you think about there's noone who is able to claim one of their spots in this list.

Possible changes that I would consider are switching myself one position with Slayer and maybe replacing NTT with someone I cannot think of right now.

For people wondering how I dare to considering myself equal to Slayer (which I don't per definition - I think it's a tossup and understand anyone picking him over me, but the other way aroudn as well)

I won WCG NLD three times (Slayer won WCG Norway zero times though to his credit only two tries of which 1 when he was active) including a 4-1 win over NTT (included on most lists) and many wins over Strafe/Twisted/Ret
5th in 2001 (wins over Tomson Fisheye Gundam MTY CQ2000 ending up 5th with that)
7th in 2002
1st in two of the earlier WGTour seasons, got second in the 3rd (2-3 final vs Saft)
1st two TL tournaments, got second in the third
1st PGChallenge 2003 in Prague (Socke Daaman Fisheye Destroyer)
1st OsloLAN 2003 (splitted 1st, we never played the final due to misserable organization)

This is a list excluding anything I have done in Korea to make it fair. Probably forgetting some stuff as well. I'd say that should give Slayer a run for his money.

Arrogance or realism? who knows. I just felt like digging up some results since I doubt anyone remembers them.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
February 06 2005 06:40 GMT
#50
Alright, just gonna put my list of favorite all time foreign gamers, not going by accomplishments.

#1 NTT

I really wouldn't know anyone else ... I only love koreans and NTT.
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic940 Posts
February 06 2005 06:43 GMT
#51
asmodey made top8 in ongamenet starleague
never too old for starcraft :)
Zerius[TPR]
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1633 Posts
February 06 2005 06:50 GMT
#52
Grrrr... is #1. There is no arguement for anyone else. #2 and #3 could go to ElkY or Slayer. 4 and 5 is trickier. Nazgul, Smuft, SaFT, sVEN, NTT, Legionnaire and FisheYe can all be considered for 4 through 10.
where from you, circus?
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
February 06 2005 07:01 GMT
#53
1) Grrrr...
2) Obiwan_Elkynobi
3) Smuft (?) He's been on pro-team w/ top 2 and im sure many accomplishments as well. Many may not like him, but I remember he won the WSL through some controversy. I don't think he should be neglected. I think he's done better than Slayer or Assem or even whear.
4) Fisheye[pG] He's been placing well in WCG's all the time, taking #2 in 2003
5) [GG99]Slayer
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
February 06 2005 07:05 GMT
#54
Slayer, NTT, Sven, Grrrr, Elky, Yosh, Nazgul, Didi, Saft, Fennec, Smuft, Froz..no order
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Pob
Profile Joined February 2004
880 Posts
February 06 2005 07:08 GMT
#55
1 - Grr....
2 - Elky
3 - Zileas
4 - Slayer
5 - NTT
Kheldar
Profile Joined January 2004
Netherlands62 Posts
February 06 2005 07:09 GMT
#56
On February 06 2005 15:39 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Grrrr
Elky
Slayer/myself
NTT

Grrr and Elky should really speak for themselves. If you think about there's noone who is able to claim one of their spots in this list.

Possible changes that I would consider are switching myself one position with Slayer and maybe replacing NTT with someone I cannot think of right now.

For people wondering how I dare to considering myself equal to Slayer (which I don't per definition - I think it's a tossup and understand anyone picking him over me, but the other way aroudn as well)

I won WCG NLD three times (Slayer won WCG Norway zero times though to his credit only two tries of which 1 when he was active) including a 4-1 win over NTT (included on most lists) and many wins over Strafe/Twisted/Ret
5th in 2001 (wins over Tomson Fisheye Gundam MTY CQ2000 ending up 5th with that)
7th in 2002
1st in two of the earlier WGTour seasons, got second in the 3rd (2-3 final vs Saft)
1st two TL tournaments, got second in the third
1st PGChallenge 2003 in Prague (Socke Daaman Fisheye Destroyer)
1st OsloLAN 2003 (splitted 1st, we never played the final due to misserable organization)

This is a list excluding anything I have done in Korea to make it fair. Probably forgetting some stuff as well. I'd say that should give Slayer a run for his money.

Arrogance or realism? who knows. I just felt like digging up some results since I doubt anyone remembers them.


First time I see you post yourself in a ranking. I think Slayer has accomplished more by winning KBK by playing with all races, random. After Slayer I'll put NTT just because I like his style and the fact that he had won 3rd price at WCGC and doing okay in KBK (if I remember correctly). I do think you deserve a spot on the list though, so don't get me wrong.
Ghellow
Zorglub1
Profile Joined October 2004
Denmark532 Posts
February 06 2005 07:13 GMT
#57
On February 06 2005 16:05 hasuwar wrote:
Slayer, NTT, Sven, Grrrr, Elky, Yosh, Nazgul, Didi, Saft, Fennec, Smuft, Froz..no order


I second that! your the first one who remembered my SC childhood hero fennec the fox.
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-06 09:15:02
February 06 2005 07:16 GMT
#58
eVERLAST was the first foreign progamer in korea but he wasnt anything special and couldnt compete at a higherlevel over there and became more of a commentatoryguy and did other various things i think...

Skillwise SaFT was one of the best in his time but he didnt get many chances to prove himself but the GAME-Q tournament which was cancelled and in WCG he kind of blew it.

Id say sweden was the best gaming nation at one time...-99 or -00 with daaman multi straylight and 5th clan and a little later )Si( nd ~yyr so i could easily place 10 swedes in top 20 world on an early stage and i think daaman could agree on that :p (atleast his personal favourite multifaith).

I dont think Elky accomplished much either he was simply not good enough for the koreans altho he got 2nd in wcg once which probably was his greatest performance. Maynard the same he was an awesome gamer but these 2 couldnt compete with the games per day the koreans were doing.

Whoever DONT place slayer as 2nd after GRRR is pretty ignorant...slayer was probably the worlds best player when he played ACTIVE and he learned the game fast...as daaman did but im pretty sure everyone agrees that GRRR has had most achevements and also had the coolest playstyle ... so 1. GRRR 2. Slayer other than that we have nobody who has shown themself outside korea that can win on a regular basis vs koreans.

So id rather have top 5 cool gamingstyles (of foreigners) !
1. NTT ( nobody can disagree on that )
2. Grrr ( the grrr exp was awesome when u saw old mpegs of it on bw.com )
3. Tsunami ( he could easily win games with units that nobody used and played really different )
4. Satanik ( satanik is a do or die strategy user very often and has really funny strategies too )
5. Smuft ( id say smufts canon mannering made me laugh alot of times when watching -.-V )

id say these 5 have a natural talent and creativity that makes broodwar fun to watch....everyone else, including me, are pretty much mainstream and its kinda boring that ppl like us can catch up to these players so fast with alot of games per day or replays per day that talent doesnt mean as much....cause seriously we all know...boxer and yellow are the most "TALENTED" broodwar players
Bergkamp ftw!
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
February 06 2005 07:17 GMT
#59
MAYNARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
February 06 2005 07:21 GMT
#60
On February 06 2005 16:08 Pob wrote:
1 - Grr....
2 - Elky
3 - Zileas
4 - Slayer
5 - NTT


My list would be close.

1 - Grrrr...
2 - Elky
3 - Zileas
4 - Legionnaire
5 - Blackman (whom you seem to have quickly forgotten about :/)
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
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