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[Int] SKT vs KT 10-11 WL Finals Winners - Page 7

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wangabe
Profile Joined October 2009
United States5 Posts
April 10 2011 15:52 GMT
#121
http://www.youtube.com/user/skelephile#p/u/4/98j_J8BnkCk

this guy has the finals in his channel. Haven't finished watching yet. Seems like a complete collection.
Horiz0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Sweden364 Posts
April 10 2011 16:44 GMT
#122
On April 10 2011 03:34 Spica wrote:
Q: (Z)s2's strategy changed after the regame. What kind of order did you give him?
A: Before the regame, (Z)s2 did a 9 pool, and it looked like (Z)Action was very prepared. So we decided that it'd be difficult for Action to make major changes to his build, and so we decided that the opponent would not be able to use 12 hatch, so I told s2 to use the build he did. That's why we were able to get the win.



I did not know this... Thanks for the translation <3
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
April 10 2011 16:56 GMT
#123
nice translation. cool series and how on earth did oov think that hairstyle was goodlooking? he looked like he was 50
Translator
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
April 10 2011 17:11 GMT
#124
On April 11 2011 00:52 wangabe wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/skelephile#p/u/4/98j_J8BnkCk

this guy has the finals in his channel. Haven't finished watching yet. Seems like a complete collection.



Yea but it is a different cam.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
April 10 2011 17:11 GMT
#125
On April 10 2011 22:49 thunk wrote:
Also, Bisu's strat worked and Flash still had a commanding position in midgame. Flash is so good...

Not even close. There was no way that push could've worked, Bisu had too much macro. After those vultures dies without claiming a single probe, Flash simply had no way of coming back; Bisu was able to get his 4 base macro running without trouble.
He didn't have any zealots when that push moved out, but he had a few dozen when he went to break it. That's how much more macro he had.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
April 10 2011 17:12 GMT
#126
BISU YEAH@!
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 19:02:38
April 10 2011 18:58 GMT
#127
Sigh, good job bisu on winning on a 66% pvt map against flash...
grumble grumble.

Wish the games were a little less... cheesy overall. But still exciting series.

On April 11 2011 02:11 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 22:49 thunk wrote:
Also, Bisu's strat worked and Flash still had a commanding position in midgame. Flash is so good...

Not even close. There was no way that push could've worked, Bisu had too much macro. After those vultures dies without claiming a single probe, Flash simply had no way of coming back; Bisu was able to get his 4 base macro running without trouble.
He didn't have any zealots when that push moved out, but he had a few dozen when he went to break it. That's how much more macro he had.



To be honest, the "not killing probes" wasn't why Flash didn't win. Flash didn't win because his build order really wasn't designed for a 5/6 factory timing push like it was executed, coupled with the fact that (both of their) build orders were slowed down by the constant zealot attack. Flash's play really felt as though it were designed to get a third base and probably hit with an 8 factory 2-1 push (notice the mega fast +1) Flash just wasn't playing to his build and forced something unnatural - he would have been better off trying to play from behind (and get some clutch emps) than to push in that position [all of us terran players have lost like that a thousand times before :|].

Also, Flash really wasn't in a comfortable position to push - in fact, there really isn't a comfortable way to push on that map - lending to terran troubles on that map.
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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
April 10 2011 19:15 GMT
#128
Bisu: "Uhuhuh, I beat Flash for once! Uhuhuhuhuh↗"
I see what you did there.

KONG.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
April 10 2011 21:05 GMT
#129
like the picspam thanks!!!
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
April 10 2011 21:46 GMT
#130
Epic 3-kill by (Z)s2, I was really surprised and impressed. Its good to see new(ish) faces take some wins.


Kespa ref: "We are sorry for the computer failure today. But since we are Kespa, we will continue to fail anyway in the future. Thank you for all of your support."

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Soto
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada56 Posts
April 10 2011 23:33 GMT
#131
great matches! SKT fighting ^^
@Effotap on Twitter.com
henzi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States200 Posts
April 11 2011 02:47 GMT
#132
Coach Park: "How is a T1 Zerg winning this, I don't even-"



ahahahaha
amethyst
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States98 Posts
April 11 2011 05:14 GMT
#133
Thanks for the awesome translation Spica! It's always a pleasure to read your translations.


GOOOOOOO SKT!!! s2 was awesome! and Bisu so cute! <3 *bounce bounce*
GG_NO_RE
Profile Joined October 2009
Japan238 Posts
April 11 2011 06:42 GMT
#134
thanks for the translation.. people at the time were saying s2 fluked the first 2 games because it was zvz but he won because he played both beautifully. people who say every zvz is a coin flip obviously do not pay attention to the play and just have resigned to their own biased ideas.

anyway, does anyone know when the next season starts? i'm friggin excited for the next season of fantasy of course ^_^
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
April 11 2011 06:51 GMT
#135
On April 11 2011 15:42 GG_NO_RE wrote:
thanks for the translation.. people at the time were saying s2 fluked the first 2 games because it was zvz but he won because he played both beautifully. people who say every zvz is a coin flip obviously do not pay attention to the play and just have resigned to their own biased ideas.

anyway, does anyone know when the next season starts? i'm friggin excited for the next season of fantasy of course ^_^

the second game itself had s2 with a disadvantage, but pulled off a win with really good control.
Writerptrk
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
April 11 2011 13:48 GMT
#136
Great write-up, I'm glad I was wrong in the bet.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 11 2011 14:37 GMT
#137
Kong curse.
:)
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
April 11 2011 15:29 GMT
#138
On April 10 2011 11:20 Milkis wrote:
DES Interview with Coach:

Manager Park Young Oon: "We won according to scenario"
[image loading]


Q: Why did you lead with s2?
A: How the games went tonight were actually one of the scenarios we considered. To be honest we concentrated more on Stats than Action. It's good management to send out newer players at the front so they got to play, and because they won, we were able to have the game flow the way we wanted it. s2 got a 3 kill and was able to guide the series without a hitch.

Q: s2's strategy changed after the regame. What kind of order did you give him?
A: Before the regame, s2 did a 9 pool, and it looked like Action was very prepared. So we decided that it'd be difficult for Action to make major changes to his build, and so we decided that the opponent would not be able to use 12 hatch, so I told s2 to use the build he did. That's why we were able to get the win.

Q: You have gained the triple crown. What is the next goal?
A: We definitely do not want to let KT take the finals at GwangAhnRi. That is our goal. After we got second place, we were really disappointed, and so this time we will pay them back with a victory. As for long term goals, I will tell them after we win at KwangAhnRi.

Q: Workshop starts tomorrow. What kind of preparations are you going to do?
A: It is true that our schedule is very tight. The players are tired from practicing quite a bit, but I think that it's better to give them a break with the team as a whole. If we give them a lot of personal time, the players might get a little loose. While we will give them personal vacation time, we will have them rest within the team as much as possible.

Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=42501 [T/N: Sup Fomos, can't steal this one ^^;;;]



This coach is so fucking baller.
FUCK YEAH SKT YEAH!
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
April 11 2011 17:16 GMT
#139
I remember when I first start watching Professional Starcraft, Bisu, Flash is on par while Jaedong is the tyrant.

Now so much have changed, now Flash is the absolute aha. The Alpha & The Omega.

Ah, when will flash switch to SC2?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 11 2011 18:05 GMT
#140
On April 11 2011 00:14 infinity2k9 wrote:
If Bisu sees factory expand he can stop zealot production though and still get goons out in time. He scouted first so he could have made a single zealot and stopped the plan anyway. Even if he scouted late it's only 2 zealots produced that was not needed (and its not like zealots are useless still). He is being modest; I mean yes he could have been at a very slight disadvantage but people taking it to mean it was zealot pump or lose are just wrong.

A big part of it is how much Bisu delayed his gas. If Flash went factory expand his opening would just be more smoother than Bisu with his 1gate expo -> gas.
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