For all ppl who thinks Boxer is a pansy - Page 2

On November 12 2004 17:45 cava wrote:
Boxer doesnt play for you. He plays for boxer, anything else would be fake and i wouldnt watch it.

On November 12 2004 17:32 HungZerg wrote:
progamers are athletes, they are paid to entertain. delivering 3 games this bad when everyone expected huge amazing down to the wire games, especially from these 2, loses fan base so its bad for the game. it also pisses off all of us who wanted to see those good games

On November 12 2004 20:00 FeelTheMoment wrote:


They are not paid to entertain you. If entertaining people is their primary duty, OGN will probably bring fastest money map into their map pool. Once a progamer sees a chance to end the game he will go for it, only an idiot will wait a few more minutes just for a bigger and more entertaining battle. In this case, boxer sees the chance to end the game in the early stage, he went for it, there is no one to blame for.

On November 12 2004 20:43 Tien wrote:
God 1024MB, that post you linked was one heap of trash. I had to literally squint my eyes reading your 8 points. From

"You know probably 1/10000 about the situation at hand here."

All the way to your young boy description of people who want good games, your post was filled with garbage. I will attempt to try and have a proper argument and counter some of your arguments that arent filled with trash.

You say that progamers should do everything they can to win. How would you feel if every single game turned out to be 5-10 minute games filled with 9pools, bunker rushes, proxy gates, and proxy raxes? Do you actually like watching these games? What would happen if when YOU played starcarft, every game would end within 10 mins? Every game you would either win by cheese or lose by it. Im 100% sure you wouldnt be playing this game for long.

You say that they shouldnt care about entertaining us. I think they should. Entertainment is the only thing that will keep the fanbase alive. You have to accept that there is a LARGE majority of people out there who actually like long entertaining games. Delivering garbage games like these will do nothing but push them away. If all boxing matches started to end up in 1 round knockouts, nobody will be attracted to watch it. I for one would stop watching it. I watch boxing (and like millions of other people) in hope of that amazing back and forth fight where the boxers give it their all. I remember fights not because they lasted 1 round, but because they went all the way to the 12/14 round where both fighters toughed it out and gave it everything they had.

This was also a Boxer vs Yellow CLASSIC. There is no better way to promote this game then have a classic series of back and forth action. Thats why I like players like Nada and Iloveoov who are able to deliver high quality games. If I want some crappy ass games filled with bunker rushes, ill go play in wgtour myself.

Series like these do nothing to promote starcraft. I stayed up all night hoping I would get a good series and all I get is a "Fuck You, I play to win". How do you think this makes me feel?

On November 12 2004 20:00 FeelTheMoment wrote:
They are not paid to entertain you. If entertaining people is their primary duty, OGN will probably bring fastest money map into their map pool. Once a progamer sees a chance to end the game he will go for it, only an idiot will wait a few more minutes just for a bigger and more entertaining battle. In this case, boxer sees the chance to end the game in the early stage, he went for it, there is no one to blame for.

On November 12 2004 18:10 yomi wrote:
How is a bunker rush not a good game. I just don't get it. Most 30 minute EPIC DRAMA games don't have any moment as exciting as when that bunker is building and yellow desperatly tries to fend it off.

Rather than concede an advantage early and play conservatively, yellow played his best and tried to win. That's what SC is all about. No one that truly understands SC enjoys the macro wars games where one player is just trying to hold their advantage by throwing troops upon troops at their opponent.

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Delivering garbage games like these will do nothing but push them away. If all boxing matches started to end up in 1 round knockouts, nobody will be attracted to watch it. I for one would stop watching it. I watch boxing (and like millions of other people) in hope of that amazing back and forth fight where the boxers give it their all. I remember fights not because they lasted 1 round, but because they went all the way to the 12/14 round where both fighters toughed it out and gave it everything they had.

On November 12 2004 20:43 Tien wrote:
God 1024MB, that post you linked was one heap of trash. I had to literally squint my eyes reading your 8 points. From

"You know probably 1/10000 about the situation at hand here."

All the way to your young boy description of people who want good games, your post was filled with garbage. I will attempt to try and have a proper argument and counter some of your arguments that arent filled with trash.

You say that progamers should do everything they can to win. How would you feel if every single game turned out to be 5-10 minute games filled with 9pools, bunker rushes, proxy gates, and proxy raxes? Do you actually like watching these games? What would happen if when YOU played starcarft, every game would end within 10 mins? Every game you would either win by cheese or lose by it. Im 100% sure you wouldnt be playing this game for long.

You say that they shouldnt care about entertaining us. I think they should. Entertainment is the only thing that will keep the fanbase alive. You have to accept that there is a LARGE majority of people out there who actually like long entertaining games. Delivering garbage games like these will do nothing but push them away. If all boxing matches started to end up in 1 round knockouts, nobody will be attracted to watch it. I for one would stop watching it. I watch boxing (and like millions of other people) in hope of that amazing back and forth fight where the boxers give it their all. I remember fights not because they lasted 1 round, but because they went all the way to the 12/14 round where both fighters toughed it out and gave it everything they had.

This was also a Boxer vs Yellow CLASSIC. There is no better way to promote this game then have a classic series of back and forth action. Thats why I like players like Nada and Iloveoov (well i dont really like iloveoov but he entertains me) who are able to deliver high quality games. If I want some crappy ass games filled with bunker rushes, ill go play in wgtour myself.

Series like these do nothing to promote starcraft. I stayed up all night hoping I would get a good series and all I get is a "Fuck You, I play to win". How do you think this makes me feel?

On November 12 2004 17:32 HungZerg wrote:
progamers are athletes, they are paid to entertain. delivering 3 games this bad when everyone expected huge amazing down to the wire games, especially from these 2, loses fan base so its bad for the game. it also pisses off all of us who wanted to see those good games

On November 12 2004 20:43 Tien wrote:
God 1024MB, that post you linked was one heap of trash. I had to literally squint my eyes reading your 8 points. From

"You know probably 1/10000 about the situation at hand here."

All the way to your young boy description of people who want good games, your post was filled with garbage. I will attempt to try and have a proper argument and counter some of your arguments that arent filled with trash.

You say that progamers should do everything they can to win. How would you feel if every single game turned out to be 5-10 minute games filled with 9pools, bunker rushes, proxy gates, and proxy raxes? Do you actually like watching these games? What would happen if when YOU played starcarft, every game would end within 10 mins? Every game you would either win by cheese or lose by it. Im 100% sure you wouldnt be playing this game for long.

You say that they shouldnt care about entertaining us. I think they should. Entertainment is the only thing that will keep the fanbase alive. You have to accept that there is a LARGE majority of people out there who actually like long entertaining games. Delivering garbage games like these will do nothing but push them away. If all boxing matches started to end up in 1 round knockouts, nobody will be attracted to watch it. I for one would stop watching it. I watch boxing (and like millions of other people) in hope of that amazing back and forth fight where the boxers give it their all. I remember fights not because they lasted 1 round, but because they went all the way to the 12/14 round where both fighters toughed it out and gave it everything they had.

This was also a Boxer vs Yellow CLASSIC. There is no better way to promote this game then have a classic series of back and forth action. Thats why I like players like Nada and Iloveoov (well i dont really like iloveoov but he entertains me) who are able to deliver high quality games. If I want some crappy ass games filled with bunker rushes, ill go play in wgtour myself.

Series like these do nothing to promote starcraft. I stayed up all night hoping I would get a good series and all I get is a "Fuck You, I play to win". How do you think this makes me feel?

On November 12 2004 21:34 KeepOfOnE wrote:
Why do you guys argue over everything? He won, it's been done - period.
Accept it

On November 12 2004 20:43 Tien wrote:
You say that progamers should do everything they can to win. How would you feel if every single game turned out to be 5-10 minute games filled with 9pools, bunker rushes, proxy gates, and proxy raxes? Do you actually like watching these games? What would happen if when YOU played starcarft, every game would end within 10 mins? Every game you would either win by cheese or lose by it. Im 100% sure you wouldnt be playing this game for long.

On November 12 2004 20:43 Tien wrote:
You say that they shouldnt care about entertaining us. I think they should. Entertainment is the only thing that will keep the fanbase alive.

On November 12 2004 20:43 Tien wrote:
You have to accept that there is a LARGE majority of people out there who actually like long entertaining games. Delivering garbage games like these will do nothing but push them away. If all boxing matches started to end up in 1 round knockouts, nobody will be attracted to watch it. I for one would stop watching it. I watch boxing (and like millions of other people) in hope of that amazing back and forth fight where the boxers give it their all. I remember fights not because they lasted 1 round, but because they went all the way to the 12/14 round where both fighters toughed it out and gave it everything they had.

On November 12 2004 20:43 Tien wrote:
This was also a Boxer vs Yellow CLASSIC. There is no better way to promote this game then have a classic series of back and forth action. Thats why I like players like Nada and Iloveoov (well i dont really like iloveoov but he entertains me) who are able to deliver high quality games. If I want some crappy ass games filled with bunker rushes, ill go play in wgtour myself.

On November 12 2004 20:43 Tien wrote:
Series like these do nothing to promote starcraft. I stayed up all night hoping I would get a good series and all I get is a "Fuck You, I play to win". How do you think this makes me feel?