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Two progamers in the Hexatron team have officially left the team for different reasons.
THe coach of the team Daniel Lee said Gundam, Cho Jung Hyun, has left the team because of various reasons. He didn't specify the exact reasons but said they really considered this a lot and made the decision after a great deal of discussing. People in Fighterforum and Pgr21 assume that some of the reasons why he is leaving the team and possible retiring as a gamer are his old age, military problems, prolonged injury of his hand, and not fitting in with the new team members. None of this except that he left the team has been proved and the reasons are only speculations.
Lee Gi Suk, Ssamjang, also left the team for business reasons. Although he tried to regain his skills as a progamer he didn't succeed and after discussing with the team he decided to leave to start his own business. He is planning to open a PC Bang in the Seoul Gang Nam area, which is probably Korea's most busiest and modern place.
For a big Hexatron fan it is sad to see these two legend leave.  It was only yesterday when I was excited about the news of Liquibition and was waiting to see Gundam beat Strafe T-T. As new members join the team to strengthen it, it is sad to see legends go such as Giyom, Jinnam, Gundam, and Ssamjang. Anyways, I hope Hexatron beats SKT 1 and advances in the pro leagues and good luck to Ssamjang and Gundam wherever they go and whatever they do. Gundam and Ssamjang Fighting!!
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Gundam wants to play without a team, that's his reason. He will continue progaming, for a while. He's practicing alot again and wants to qualify for the next Challenge League.
(SSamjang sucked horribly.)
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so is he still in liquibition?
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for sure, this is a step forward for Gundam. Atleast that's how he sees it. When he was in his prime (2nd in King of Kings) he didn't have a team either iirc. He's convinced he will do better now.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
"old age, military problems, prolonged injury of his hand, and not fitting in with the new team members" <---lol
sharp be sure to tell everyone on those sites that I REKRUL can say that all those speculations are 100% not true and total bullshit
if any of them say more speculations rekrul will come knocking on their doors in seoul
we love gundam
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
and yes Gundam is going to keep playing starcraft, maybe even more than before 
ssamjang just couldn't get his skills back after his long break from gaming
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everyone does
how can someone not love him
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I really hope gundam will build himself back up to the monster he used to be
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O its good to hear that he will continue progaming and he is in good relations with the team. But why is he leaving the team? I really like him and it would be great to have him on Hexatron. Why would he want to be not on a team? He won't get paid, won't have the opportunity to participate in team leagues, might have difficulty finding practice partners..Why WHy WHy WHY~~
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well, rekrul could tell. but probably this will become just a 10page thread full with weird speculations
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
For a reason that you will not find out
sorry
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It is his call. Respect it.
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thx foe the info, i'm looking forward to seeing gundam kick some asses @ challenge league, time to teach to all these newcomers what sC is all about 
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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On October 20 2004 09:26 [pG]Rekrul wrote: For a reason that you will not find out sorry
YOU BAD GUY! PLZ TELL ME
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is awesome32281 Posts
Yes uncle rek we want to know! tell us!
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yes we beg oh great leklul... tell us plz!~!~~!
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
ask rekrul to tell you and die
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Okay guys, my bags are packed.. I'm ready to fill Gundam's spot on hexatron. Hurry up and send me the ticket already...
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I am really sorry to see SSamjang go. I "grew up" on a game betweem him and somebody on rivalary - first vod I ever saw. In those times he defeated players like Boxer, TheMarine, IntoTheRain and Garimto. He will always remain a top player in my mind.
As for Gundam, I am not sure about him leaving hexatron, but if he thinks it's the best way for him to grow in BW and other things ... GL man!! I like people who can make difficult decisions....
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What's Hexatron's lineup looking like now?
Seems to me like the team's being gutted.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
Siva
ArtOfTerran
Shinya
Jinsu
Lovedom
Rekrul
Legionnaire
Assem
Elky
and practice partners that affiliate with hexatron:
SaiD aka TheMania
Jelka
Bejjezerg
)Na(Pro
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wow i guess im screwed then...
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god
fuck
my heart
retire from.. gah
gasp
=[
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Poor Grot almost had a heart attack?
Well seriously good luck to thew bambo terran 
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Canada5062 Posts
Best wishes to Gundam. An excellent gamer and a very cool person.
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Maybe give him time to accutally do something. You think anyone can just take a flight down to Korea and own up the pro and semi pro players who probably have invested more time in one year of theire gaming. Than most of us ever will in an entire lifetime.
Give him some time, and hopefully we will se something good come out of it.
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jelka will take it all in 2005! s.g fighting! 
uh ok so maybe jelka left s.g... but s.g fighting!
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Man this is sad, I didn't even really follow or like these guys. But when any progamer retires, even the ones I hate, I will wish them luck in the future and thank them for the great matches they gave us.
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
On October 20 2004 11:36 jacob wrote:
rekrul, man I dont blame you ^ really, but tell what have you done since u are in korea? mayby you also should leave Hexatron and make a "slot" for someone who can take some wins in League?
one of the more moronic comments i've ever read at this site..
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On October 20 2004 10:14 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
ask rekrul to tell you and die
Wtf is your problem with the "die" things..you want to die ? kill youself..
--v
Gogo gumdan ! I don't know who was the other guy =P
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Damn .. I loved Gundam. But yeah, it's his call, and it's not really any of our business if he doesn't want it to be. Sucks to hear.
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United Kingdom2674 Posts
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Does this mean I can join Hexatron? XD
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if gundamn isn't on a team who will he practice with? where will he get games?
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17082 Posts
Aye, I always liked Ssamjang ^_^
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who was and what happened to Danby?
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wasnt he just an australian guy who hung around organizing things or something? =P
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On October 20 2004 19:47 littlechava wrote:
wasnt he just an australian guy who hung around organizing things or something? =P
that would be Joel
Danby is a korean zerg player and I guess he has left hexatron since rek didnt list him so I'm just wondering what happened to him
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
danby left the team and moved back home
he didn't make it into challenge or any other league 28932 times so the manager told him he had to go and it was time to move on
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how many trys did the manager actually give a gamer until he kick a gamer out of the team?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
dunno, probably like 3 challenge league prelim, 3 MBC prelim, 3 iTV prelim, and many courage tournies, which is a shit load
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Valhalla18444 Posts
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Do you get slightly more lenient treatment if you are a foreigner?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
i dont know i haven't been here long enough ask assem
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Rek, how close have you made it to qualifying for a league?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
in ogn trials i lost first round to ogogo
in mbc trials i lost 2nd round vs reach
you have to win 3 rounds to qualify in those trials
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T_T
how is assem doing qualifying for ogn/mbc?
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On October 20 2004 19:27 cav wrote:
if gundamn isn't on a team who will he practice with? where will he get games?
good question...
hmm?
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On October 20 2004 21:21 cav wrote: Show nested quote +On October 20 2004 19:27 cav wrote:
if gundamn isn't on a team who will he practice with? where will he get games? good question... hmm? I think he can find people to practice with..maybe he thought that hexatron wasn't a good enough practicing enviroment :O
I remember when I first heard about V-gundam, I was a newb, and someone said he was like the best terran player ever, even better than boxer..so I tried to find any replays, but I couldn't..then I finally found the one vs daaman. That was a sweet rep, it was
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On October 20 2004 21:09 littlechava wrote:
T_T
how is assem doing qualifying for ogn/mbc?
he hasn't made it into any yet
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assem is gonna be send back :D
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SsamJang is legend, He invent a lot of stats ,like full machanics vs Protoss.
I am so sad that he leaves us..
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On October 20 2004 21:02 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
in ogn trials i lost first round to ogogo
in mbc trials i lost 2nd round vs reach
you have to win 3 rounds to qualify in those trials
gogo rek you have 3-6 more months!
keep trying! =P
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On October 21 2004 03:23 babywolfcn wrote:
SsamJang is legend, He invent a lot of stats ,like full machanics vs Protoss.
I am so sad that he leaves us..
no
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On October 20 2004 21:02 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
in ogn trials i lost first round to ogogo
in mbc trials i lost 2nd round vs reach
you have to win 3 rounds to qualify in those trials
That sucks. Who'd you beat before you went against Reach?
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I can't recall the opponent, but I think that was the one, where Rek lost his nat in the 3rd game and all of the Hexatron were like nooooo, but then he recalled a shitload of units in the other guys main :D Sounded like great fun
Edit: Thx (post below me)
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Hmm, that would be interesting to see...
BTW: It's WackSteven, not Whacksteven.
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You got to play Reach :O
I'm jealous T_T
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reach did some special build, i remember rek was impressed :O
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hm Rekrul just one question 
does Elky still play a lot or enough?
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That was first game vs. Reach I think, second game was something like Goon vs. Goon, and Reach was really pushing them, but Rek defended it, until he somehow made his units attack a non-damaged goon, instead of the damaged ones and Reach broke through T_T
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poor gundam....btw, how old is he?
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Sweden33719 Posts
On October 21 2004 11:09 GroT wrote:
reach did some special build, i remember rek was impressed :O
He faked proxy gates then fast expanded (having only built one gate) IIRC.
I tried to do that vs ret on the same map but the fucker never even scouted me so instead of having 2 proxy gates vs a 2 hatches before pool I had 1 gate and expo -.-
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=[ gotta hate it when pro gamers retire...
REKRUL MAKE INTO A LEAGUE ALREADY!!!
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I dont understand how you can become better without a team. Are you forbidden to play any outside of your team? Does his teammates suck? Is he a momas boy(nothing wrong with this, free food and clean clothes is a blessing)?
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Good lUck to both of them
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On October 21 2004 02:58 klaasdebaas wrote:
assem is gonna be send back :D
Don't worry, Assem is already qualified as "Pro", Rek is not yet
EDIT :
Oh, I forgot Rek would participate courage tourney today! Maybe he is qualified when he read this. Good luck Rek!!!!
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Hum Hexatron lost 2 really manner nice and old member , thats really sad I hope and i am almost sure they will find their way in future.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Hm, some guy I talked to said he had his courage league thing on sunday :O Does it run both days or something?
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On October 23 2004 15:19 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Hm, some guy I talked to said he had his courage league thing on sunday :O Does it run both days or something?
It's already Sunday here in Seoul. The tourney runs on Sunday
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Sweden33719 Posts
Oh you said when he reads this, I thought you said when I type this
Because it's like 7 am in korea right?
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On October 23 2004 15:24 FrozenArbiter wrote: Oh you said when he reads this, I thought you said when I type this Because it's like 7 am in korea right?
Right 7 am. I've just come home from all night long party. hehe
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What is it about a Korean Pro Team that gets blame for stifling many players? Boxer has left teams saying being on the team made him worse. I think it was KTF (I could be mistaken) that gathered many top players together at one point only to see them mostly decline for some time after becoming teammates. Now we see Gundam believing he will do better without a team! What is it about not being on certain teams that turns out better for these pros?
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On October 23 2004 15:55 rednob wrote:
What is it about a Korean Pro Team that gets blame for stifling many players? Boxer has left teams saying being on the team made him worse. I think it was KTF (I could be mistaken) that gathered many top players together at one point only to see them mostly decline for some time after becoming teammates. Now we see Gundam believing he will do better without a team! What is it about not being on certain teams that turns out better for these pros?
Boxer left )IS( after his loss to Reach, saying they didn't get him good enough toss practice partners to prepare for his matches.
No one here knows Gundam's reason for leaving, except probably Rek and Leg. If he did, indeed, leave Hex for that, it would probably go with the thinking of, "I did better without a team before, surely, I will do better this time."
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Exactly how good *is* Assem these days? It it even probable for him to make any leauges in the future?
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On October 23 2004 16:30 SickofLife wrote: Show nested quote +On October 23 2004 15:55 rednob wrote:
What is it about a Korean Pro Team that gets blame for stifling many players? Boxer has left teams saying being on the team made him worse. I think it was KTF (I could be mistaken) that gathered many top players together at one point only to see them mostly decline for some time after becoming teammates. Now we see Gundam believing he will do better without a team! What is it about not being on certain teams that turns out better for these pros? Boxer left )IS( after his loss to Reach, saying they didn't get him good enough toss practice partners to prepare for his matches. No one here knows Gundam's reason for leaving, except probably Rek and Leg. If he did, indeed, leave Hex for that, it would probably go with the thinking of, "I did better without a team before, surely, I will do better this time."
I am not convinced Gundam's thinking is that simple ... maybe that is his ultimate conclusion, but he must have some reasons or factors in mind. We can't know for now unless Rekrul tells us! We know Boxer left a team in the past due to a lack of practice partners. Now, on the other side of the coin: SickofLife: Do you think that Yellow's slump, or any other slump in recent memory, had anything to do with teams? I believe there is a particular former underachieving team that was full of stars at one point, but I just can't remember it.
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Sad to see Gundam move on, i always thought he had a tight relationship with Hexatron managers. I hope he can make a strong comeback and perform well in the leagues
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On October 23 2004 16:30 SickofLife wrote:
Boxer left )IS( after his loss to Reach, saying they didn't get him good enough toss practice partners to prepare for his matches.
Hahaha. That's one of the reasons Boxer has made millions of people hate him for years. It seemed like that the whole team was for just emperor Boxer 
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Boxer deserves to have a whole team just for him. :-)
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Leg@festerscomp - A lot of the "leaving teams for no practice partners" and other such lame excuses are all just fake reasons for people to leave teams the easy way and to make it seem like its for a smaller reason thats whats really going on under the surface.
Dont beleive everything you here!~
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On October 23 2004 17:50 rednob wrote: Show nested quote +On October 23 2004 16:30 SickofLife wrote: On October 23 2004 15:55 rednob wrote:
What is it about a Korean Pro Team that gets blame for stifling many players? Boxer has left teams saying being on the team made him worse. I think it was KTF (I could be mistaken) that gathered many top players together at one point only to see them mostly decline for some time after becoming teammates. Now we see Gundam believing he will do better without a team! What is it about not being on certain teams that turns out better for these pros? Boxer left )IS( after his loss to Reach, saying they didn't get him good enough toss practice partners to prepare for his matches. No one here knows Gundam's reason for leaving, except probably Rek and Leg. If he did, indeed, leave Hex for that, it would probably go with the thinking of, "I did better without a team before, surely, I will do better this time." I am not convinced Gundam's thinking is that simple ... maybe that is his ultimate conclusion, but he must have some reasons or factors in mind. We can't know for now unless Rekrul tells us! We know Boxer left a team in the past due to a lack of practice partners. Now, on the other side of the coin: SickofLife: Do you think that Yellow's slump, or any other slump in recent memory, had anything to do with teams? I believe there is a particular former underachieving team that was full of stars at one point, but I just can't remember it.
I don't know about Yellow's slump, but Boxer's, it would almost seem, has something to do with teammates.
SK T1
Z: ZergLee, Mumyung
T: Boxer, ILoveoov, Kos
P: Kingdom, IntoTheRainbow, Terato
Those would be Boxer's current teammates. His TvZ is still good, but not what it used to be. That could be due to a change in game dynamics (I can't think of the other word, but change in styles of the game), but I don't know. His TvT should be really good, and it would seem it is. He beat Sync, and Nada recently in TvT. His TvP, however, seems to be lacking, and that could be due to practice partners. Kingdom and Terato are good toss players, but they aren't the top players. (I think that'd probably still go to Reach and rA as far as top tosses go) Back to TvZ. I don't know much about ZergLee, but I do know that Mumyung is terrible. Of course, Mumyungs game can improve off of Boxer and OOv, but I don't know how much theirs can off of his.
I think part of the problem would be practice partners, but for the oldschoolers, like Boxer and Yellow (who is owning it up right now), it'd probably be more the change of the game.
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so you're saying Kingdom isnt Top P player ?
aha so how much diffrence do you think there is between the 3 best protoss players, wich kingdom easily is ?
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Not really. Kingdom is good, but nowehere near nal_ra and reach.Besides, kingdom is more predictable.
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On October 23 2004 23:42 yeehaw wrote:
Not really. Kingdom is good, but nowehere near nal_ra and reach.Besides, kingdom is more predictable.
Spoken like you really know Kingdom.
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That's just wrong discounting Kingdom.
Kingdom, Reach, and Ra are at a level of their own. No other toss comes near their level.
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On October 23 2004 21:56 DJ_Heather wrote: Show nested quote +On October 23 2004 16:30 SickofLife wrote:
Boxer left )IS( after his loss to Reach, saying they didn't get him good enough toss practice partners to prepare for his matches. Hahaha. That's one of the reasons Boxer has made millions of people hate him for years. It seemed like that the whole team was for just emperor Boxer
huh?
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Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
On October 23 2004 23:42 yeehaw wrote:
Not really. Kingdom is good, but nowehere near nal_ra and reach.Besides, kingdom is more predictable.
While Ra/Reach are above Kingdom, the skill gap is pretty small... Kingdom is very easily the third best Protoss at the moment, all three being way above everyone else.
TvP was always Boxer's worst mu anyways.
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According to the Kespa Ranking Kingdom is 4th and Reach is 7th.
It's not everything yeah but..
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I think kingdom is better than ra. Reach and kingdom are on the same level.
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On October 20 2004 09:20 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote: O its good to hear that he will continue progaming and he is in good relations with the team. But why is he leaving the team? I really like him and it would be great to have him on Hexatron. Why would he want to be not on a team? He won't get paid, won't have the opportunity to participate in team leagues, might have difficulty finding practice partners..Why WHy WHy WHY~~
Don't think he will have a rough time finding practice partners
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I think Terato PvT chogosu.
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Anyone new to replace them in the future ?
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Ahk-Gosu for sure
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On October 23 2004 23:42 yeehaw wrote:
Not really. Kingdom is good, but nowehere near nal_ra and reach.Besides, kingdom is more predictable.
Kingdom and IntoTheRainbOw are both some of the best protoss users on the pro level, i would imagine Boxer get's good practice with those two. I believe )iS( team was mainly terran & zerg users, it was such a huge upset when Reach beat Boxer that Boxer's dad began blaming the team :O~
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What is the argument for Kingdom not being a top 3 protoss? As far as i know, Kingdom's achievements are better than Reach's. Could anyone link/list the achievements of Kingdom/Ra/Reach?
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United States33693 Posts
kingdom is the no.1 toss, wtf you guys talking about -_-
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at the moment i think reach is best toss...and then there are some others who are top,too..... but not so good like reach
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Reach
Dom
Ra
Zeus
The rest.
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Zeus? didn't hear about him for a long time..^^
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Kingdom/Reach/Ra/Zues/Majesty
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I think rainbow is also a very good p user. I have seen him do many amazing things :p but am not too sure about his achievements.
I hope some of the international players in hexatron get into some league so we can see sum vods
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Sweden33719 Posts
On October 24 2004 08:03 GooDGaMe wrote: Show nested quote +On October 23 2004 23:42 yeehaw wrote:
Not really. Kingdom is good, but nowehere near nal_ra and reach.Besides, kingdom is more predictable. Kingdom and IntoTheRainbOw are both some of the best protoss users on the pro level, i would imagine Boxer get's good practice with those two. I believe )iS( team was mainly terran & zerg users, it was such a huge upset when Reach beat Boxer that Boxer's dad began blaming the team :O~
Yeah he only beat the crap out of ra when winning his starleague, that's nothing.
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On October 24 2004 06:16 mdb wrote:
what does chogosu means?
above gosu right?
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gundam gonna be gosu again?
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prolonged injury of his hand
haha
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On October 24 2004 10:13 RowdierBob wrote: Reach Dom Ra Zeus The rest.
could you say that any better?
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