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RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
October 23 2004 08:36 GMT
#81
Exactly how good *is* Assem these days? It it even probable for him to make any leauges in the future?
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
rednob
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)210 Posts
October 23 2004 08:50 GMT
#82
On October 23 2004 16:30 SickofLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2004 15:55 rednob wrote:
What is it about a Korean Pro Team that gets blame for stifling many players? Boxer has left teams saying being on the team made him worse. I think it was KTF (I could be mistaken) that gathered many top players together at one point only to see them mostly decline for some time after becoming teammates. Now we see Gundam believing he will do better without a team! What is it about not being on certain teams that turns out better for these pros?


Boxer left )IS( after his loss to Reach, saying they didn't get him good enough toss practice partners to prepare for his matches.

No one here knows Gundam's reason for leaving, except probably Rek and Leg. If he did, indeed, leave Hex for that, it would probably go with the thinking of, "I did better without a team before, surely, I will do better this time."


I am not convinced Gundam's thinking is that simple ... maybe that is his ultimate conclusion, but he must have some reasons or factors in mind. We can't know for now unless Rekrul tells us! We know Boxer left a team in the past due to a lack of practice partners. Now, on the other side of the coin: SickofLife: Do you think that Yellow's slump, or any other slump in recent memory, had anything to do with teams? I believe there is a particular former underachieving team that was full of stars at one point, but I just can't remember it.
A forum is as good as its worst member, or maybe a little better than that if you are good at skimming.
GooDGaMe
Profile Joined August 2003
United States989 Posts
October 23 2004 09:16 GMT
#83
Sad to see Gundam move on, i always thought he had a tight relationship with Hexatron managers. I hope he can make a strong comeback and perform well in the leagues
gl hf ~~
DJ_Heather
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)174 Posts
October 23 2004 12:56 GMT
#84
On October 23 2004 16:30 SickofLife wrote:

Boxer left )IS( after his loss to Reach, saying they didn't get him good enough toss practice partners to prepare for his matches.


Hahaha. That's one of the reasons Boxer has made millions of people hate him for years. It seemed like that the whole team was for just emperor Boxer
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rednob
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)210 Posts
October 23 2004 13:09 GMT
#85
Boxer deserves to have a whole team just for him. :-)
A forum is as good as its worst member, or maybe a little better than that if you are good at skimming.
Fester
Profile Joined February 2003
Australia260 Posts
October 23 2004 13:23 GMT
#86
Leg@festerscomp - A lot of the "leaving teams for no practice partners" and other such lame excuses are all just fake reasons for people to leave teams the easy way and to make it seem like its for a smaller reason thats whats really going on under the surface.

Dont beleive everything you here!~
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
October 23 2004 13:23 GMT
#87
On October 23 2004 17:50 rednob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2004 16:30 SickofLife wrote:
On October 23 2004 15:55 rednob wrote:
What is it about a Korean Pro Team that gets blame for stifling many players? Boxer has left teams saying being on the team made him worse. I think it was KTF (I could be mistaken) that gathered many top players together at one point only to see them mostly decline for some time after becoming teammates. Now we see Gundam believing he will do better without a team! What is it about not being on certain teams that turns out better for these pros?


Boxer left )IS( after his loss to Reach, saying they didn't get him good enough toss practice partners to prepare for his matches.

No one here knows Gundam's reason for leaving, except probably Rek and Leg. If he did, indeed, leave Hex for that, it would probably go with the thinking of, "I did better without a team before, surely, I will do better this time."


I am not convinced Gundam's thinking is that simple ... maybe that is his ultimate conclusion, but he must have some reasons or factors in mind. We can't know for now unless Rekrul tells us! We know Boxer left a team in the past due to a lack of practice partners. Now, on the other side of the coin: SickofLife: Do you think that Yellow's slump, or any other slump in recent memory, had anything to do with teams? I believe there is a particular former underachieving team that was full of stars at one point, but I just can't remember it.


I don't know about Yellow's slump, but Boxer's, it would almost seem, has something to do with teammates.

SK T1
Z: ZergLee, Mumyung
T: Boxer, ILoveoov, Kos
P: Kingdom, IntoTheRainbow, Terato

Those would be Boxer's current teammates. His TvZ is still good, but not what it used to be. That could be due to a change in game dynamics (I can't think of the other word, but change in styles of the game), but I don't know. His TvT should be really good, and it would seem it is. He beat Sync, and Nada recently in TvT. His TvP, however, seems to be lacking, and that could be due to practice partners. Kingdom and Terato are good toss players, but they aren't the top players. (I think that'd probably still go to Reach and rA as far as top tosses go) Back to TvZ. I don't know much about ZergLee, but I do know that Mumyung is terrible. Of course, Mumyungs game can improve off of Boxer and OOv, but I don't know how much theirs can off of his.

I think part of the problem would be practice partners, but for the oldschoolers, like Boxer and Yellow (who is owning it up right now), it'd probably be more the change of the game.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
STD
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden350 Posts
October 23 2004 13:47 GMT
#88
so you're saying Kingdom isnt Top P player ?
aha so how much diffrence do you think there is between the 3 best protoss players, wich kingdom easily is ?
yeehaw
Profile Joined October 2004
San Marino888 Posts
October 23 2004 14:42 GMT
#89
Not really. Kingdom is good, but nowehere near nal_ra and reach.Besides, kingdom is more predictable.
G_G
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
October 23 2004 15:04 GMT
#90
On October 23 2004 23:42 yeehaw wrote:
Not really. Kingdom is good, but nowehere near nal_ra and reach.Besides, kingdom is more predictable.

Spoken like you really know Kingdom.
Peter, Dang, pm me!!!
Care Bear from
Profile Joined October 2004
Botswana118 Posts
October 23 2004 15:09 GMT
#91
That's just wrong discounting Kingdom.

Kingdom, Reach, and Ra are at a level of their own. No other toss comes near their level.
likeboxer
Profile Joined December 2003
Korea (South)465 Posts
October 23 2004 15:19 GMT
#92
On October 23 2004 21:56 DJ_Heather wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2004 16:30 SickofLife wrote:

Boxer left )IS( after his loss to Reach, saying they didn't get him good enough toss practice partners to prepare for his matches.


Hahaha. That's one of the reasons Boxer has made millions of people hate him for years. It seemed like that the whole team was for just emperor Boxer


huh?
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
October 23 2004 17:20 GMT
#93
On October 23 2004 23:42 yeehaw wrote:
Not really. Kingdom is good, but nowehere near nal_ra and reach.Besides, kingdom is more predictable.


While Ra/Reach are above Kingdom, the skill gap is pretty small... Kingdom is very easily the third best Protoss at the moment, all three being way above everyone else.

TvP was always Boxer's worst mu anyways.
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STD
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden350 Posts
October 23 2004 17:39 GMT
#94
According to the Kespa Ranking Kingdom is 4th and Reach is 7th.
It's not everything yeah but..
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
October 23 2004 20:28 GMT
#95
I think kingdom is better than ra. Reach and kingdom are on the same level.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
TanGo
Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden1019 Posts
October 23 2004 21:06 GMT
#96
On October 20 2004 09:20 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote:
O its good to hear that he will continue progaming and he is in good relations with the team. But why is he leaving the team? I really like him and it would be great to have him on Hexatron. Why would he want to be not on a team? He won't get paid, won't have the opportunity to participate in team leagues, might have difficulty finding practice partners..Why WHy WHy WHY~~

Don't think he will have a rough time finding practice partners
Kram
linyu)wufan18
Profile Joined October 2002
1198 Posts
October 23 2004 21:07 GMT
#97
I think Terato PvT chogosu.
http://sc.replays.net
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
October 23 2004 21:16 GMT
#98
what does chogosu means?
LibertyTerran
Profile Joined July 2004
Vietnam711 Posts
October 23 2004 21:50 GMT
#99
Anyone new to replace them in the future ?
if it aint broke, dont fix it
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
October 23 2004 21:54 GMT
#100
Ahk-Gosu for sure
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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