[SWL] 2011 Winner's League ALL-KILL List - Page 11

henzi

United States200 Posts

January 19 2011 03:00 GMT

#201

I can't believe how some people still don't understand what an ALL-KILL LIST is. How hard is it to accept that an Almost ALL-KILL deserves notice because the player had a good run for the goal but failed when it really counts. Whether you see an Almost ALL-KILL as a success or fail really depends on the person.

If you want do include 3 kills that are not Almost ALL-KILLs make your own damn list please, and include whatever the f*&% you want, and stop complaining.

This thread has standards, and they're great standards.

IntoTheEmo

Singapore1169 Posts

January 19 2011 03:37 GMT

#202

Since this is the ALL-KILL thread, the almost all-kill 3 kills (oh shit he almost did it but he didn't) should be mentioned whereas the regular 3 kills (oh nice he cleaned them up after x teammate won one), while a nice accomplishment, doesn't feel like it fits into the OP.

This thread is to honor the players who were gunning for the ALL-KILL, since that is the spirit of the Winner's League. And thus the OP is right to only include players who 3 kill with an opportunity to make a 4th but failed.

Now if this was a >2 game streak mention thread... then we'd list the 3 kill cleanups too. Of course in some of the games a player almost AKs then gets cleaned up by a 3 kill, maybe that's what's causing the confusion? Regardless, it's still fairly easy to figure it out.

Damn, BaBy with the first non Protoss AK, forgot WeMade was gonna play ACE soon lol. Poor ACE, maybe they'll get an AK of their own sometime?

Interesting that neither Jaedong or Flash has had an AK or even an almost AK mention yet (though there are 3 kill cleanups by each). Strange, strange WL.

Oh and damn you Jaehoon again lol, stop winning you sweaty guy, take a break ><

saltywet

Hong Kong1316 Posts

January 19 2011 04:35 GMT

#203

frozean getting an almost all killl.... i guess it's that time of the season for the rest of STX to fall into a slump again

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

January 22 2011 05:29 GMT

#204

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Don't know why people are bashing Stats when he's one of the most consistent Protoss players on the scene presently; he's right behind Stork, Kal, and Bisu right now as one of the best Protoss players this year, and unlike the majority of the aforementioned players, he doesn't has a specifically weak match-up (but on the flip side, he doesn't specialize in any match-ups either).

This is where I start to have problems. For one, KT fans overhype him quite a bit.
In my eyes, he is behind Snow and Pure, along with the rest of the dragons except Jangbi/possibly Best, simply because he hasn't accomplished much worth mentioning. He may be #3 toss by ELO, but that's because free/Kal recently dropped off in performance while he got an all-kill after a rather mediocre showing in the weeks before.
He's not bad, he's just far too overhyped and honestly nothing more than a decent/good player. I wouldn't call him a top protoss by any stretch of the imagination. Perhaps a top protoss for the few days since New Years, but that distinction will be short-lived.

I honestly feel the same way about Bisu... guy puts up no results in individuals something like 4-5 seasons in a row, has an average vT when it counts and although he is tearing up PL, I doubt he will ever even reach a final (or Ro4 really) again in his career. SKT fans are quick to say he is back and he is indeed probably the second best protoss after Stork, but that's not really saying too much in my opinion. In alot of ways Bisu reminds me of Leta nowadays.

Anyways just my opinion.

#3 player by ELO, only lost 1 game in his 'weak' MU in this season, as many wins as Flash in PL(and better SL results this season lolol) and a 3 time SL winner and he's overrated?
And he really wasn't quite 'back' in R5/PO because of decision-making problems which ghave been worked out for the most part.
I know you're a KT fan and therefore have plenty of bias, but come on, you can't seriously deny that he's the 2nd/3rd/4th(depending on how much you like Stork/fault JD failures) best player right now. In R5 last season you'd have some point, but not anymore.
No, he's not at the level at which he ELO peaked yet(his PvP's against Kal are at fault), but he certainly isn't comparable to Leta.

if history is to be repeated, Bisu who is tearing it up in PL but dropping early in individuals is looking a lot like Flash before he turned on god mode :D

Hahaha thats true :D
But I think its annoying that people disregard that Stats was known atleast last year, as one of the few tosses who consistently could win in PvZ. And win it with STYLE (watch all Stats' game vs Zero for a treat in PvZ, though he ALLWAYS looses to the Dong, its been 7 times now

).
The thing about Stats is that while he never really beat S class people on top of their game (Jaedong is the only one he faced of this caliber). He has a nice record vs A class players and generally doesnt have a lot of scrubsmashing games, I mean, looking at his TLPD hes 2-0 vs Bisu, 3-1 vs zero, 2-2 vs fantasy, 0-3 vs leta, 1-2 vs Sea, 1-0 vs Best, 1-1 vs Baby, and 0-1 vs Stork).
Thats the top of the A class, even though he had some ugly games (vs Hydra and Calm fx). He only dropped out of this OSL in a great series vs Hogil.
And the thing about stats is, chin jokes aside, that he is fucking consistent, and he elevates his play like a beast when he needs to.
Saying that Stats is overrated is fun, because he also had some 3 kills last year as well and has been the second king of KT since Violet stopped being a beast. (or luxury, who was it before Violet).
Say it as you might still, but please look twice at his record, its about time he recieved some praise and achievements.
Look forward to when Stats will be stopped hard by JD in the match at monday (or maybe he will end his 7 game loosing streak to the dong, who knows, all the games has been good so, yeah.)

How come Stork and Bisu aren't S class in your eyes? They're definitely some of the top contenders in professional StarCraft and their ELO isn't that far from JD.

I wrote that before I realized Stork went godmode, and I still dont think Bisu is S class (PvT brings him down, he's yet to beat someone really good at it in a game where they performed. . .). (Okay, I didnt watch his games vs Sea and Baby, maybe I should do that before making claims... gonna watch em and reedit)
Though he has fucking baller PvZ which is the best on earth. And then still above average but not S class PvP.
Thats just how I feel, Bisu is owning it up in PvP but he doesnt have the aura of invincibillity the, "WTF HE LOST!?" aura (which he has in PvZ, mind you), which Jaedong, Flash (and now Stork) carries.